Enigma Digest January 1995 Volume 2 : Issue 1 'Lo thar (4 msgs) *Nettwerk's January Contest* (fwd) alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc (fwd) An interesting group... B-Tribe! (4 msgs) Announcement --- New Member (2 msgs) Attn: Joar (5 msgs) bad luck (fwd) Deep Forest / Oldfield WWW? Delerium Delerium: Semantic Spaces Do you know? Enigma-like music (2 msgs) Enigma - new subscriber Enigma in German TV (2 msgs) Enigma remixes Enigma y DM Faces of Sadeness (2 msgs) Figure skating (yes it is enigma related) (4 msgs) Found (2 msgs) GEMM Hello (2 msgs) INTRODUCTION AND QUESTION Introduction and Question on MCMXC AD Video (3 msgs) MCMXC a.D. Laser Disc MCMXC AD VIDEOS (6 msgs) MIKE OLDFIELD SODE˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ MIKE OLDFIELD SODE (7 msgs) new me Ordering Imports (7 msgs) Out from the Deep (2 msgs) Out From The Deep is... Out From The Deep review Out From The Deep samples Picture Gallery --- Sandra (2 msgs) Pret a Porter soundtrack-no enigma question about principles of lust (2 msgs) Some news (3 msgs) Songs of Distant Earth Songs of Distant Earth... Songs Of Distant Earth review (fwd) (2 msgs) Teen Spirit Tomorrow: Enigma on TV in Germany Welcome to list 'enigma' (3 msgs) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:05:22 PST From: phanes@community.net Subject: 'Lo thar To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, 'lo thar. I am a newbie to this list and to lists in general. Me full name is Edward Ernest Kadel III, but everyone calls me Ward. I am 17 and still in high school, unfortunately. I only have MCXCIII and Enigma 2 Cross of Changes in my collection, but I'm startin' ta look fo' much more stuff, though my town sucks, since within a 1.5 hour driving radius, I only have a WhereHouse. As fo' other bands I like, well, the list could go on adn on. Me favorite band is DM, but Enigma ranks right up there with THE best of them. I also really like The Legendary Pink Dots, Nine Inch Nails, Enya, Milla, Prodigy, and The Sisters of Mercy. I first heard Enigma when it was first played on KROQ in Orange County, before I moved up to Napa. I also am an new Ectophile, so I may be talking to those that are also on that list. Talk ta thous later... Xenophanes! "...sing while you may!' --Edward Qa-spel "...set me free, remotivate me!" --Martin L. Gore AAAA A A A A A A A A A A AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA AA AA AA AA Edward (Ward) Ernest Kadel III phanes@community.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 95 19:18:25 EST From: grazer@phantom.com (Grazing Bull) Subject: 'Lo thar To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi! Enigma's cool. You like DM too? They're awesome right? Do you have "Songs of Faith and Devotion"? I just *love* that CD. Oh, by the way, I'm not grazer. I'm his friend. :) Nice to meet you Edward. /-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/-\/ || 0 / ** NOW PLAYING ** \ 0 | | || <| |> | | || / \ grazer@phantom.com / \ | | ||--------------------\ Daniel Forman /--------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1995 22:44:15 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: 'Lo thar To: ENIGMA Distribution List > Hi! Enigma's cool. You like DM too? They're awesome right? Do you >have "Songs of Faith and Devotion"? I just *love* that CD. This is dagerously off topic, but SOFAD is a VERY nice album. My fav's 'In Your Room'. I'm rather fond of the whole album, although I don't exactly mind skipping 'One Caress'. But back on topic, does anyone know where I might easily track down any Enigma singles. (Any of 'em... I have yet to find a one of 'em). By the way, anyone seen a vid for 'Out From the Deep' yet? Joseph MacKay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 95 18:57:55 PST From: phanes@community.net Subject: 'Lo thar To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Where exactly do you live? I live in Northern California, as I think you also live in CA. I got the CD single of AoL by Enigma at The Wherehouse, and I also saw some others there, before I had some money. Maybe you could try there, but I know that any independent store or Tower would have a lot of them. Xenophanes! "Sing while you may...' --Edward Qa-spel "...set me free, remotivate me!" --Martin L. Gore AAAA A A A A A A A A A A AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA AA AA AA AA Edward (Ward) Ernest Kadel III phanes@community.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 15:21:56 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: *Nettwerk's January Contest* (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day to you all. Many of you may be interested in Nettwerk's latest competition: Forwarded message: > From Nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca Wed Jan 4 15:14:27 1995 > NETTWERK'S JANUARY CONTEST > > This month you can enter to win the new Delerium release, "Semantic > Spaces" and an autographed Delerium poster. We'll be drawing 10 names > on January 31, so be sure to enter by then. Just provide the answer to the > following question: > > What band is Kristy Thirsk (who sings on "Semantic Spaces") in? > > Send us your answer along with your name, your mailing address, phone > number, e-mail address, and preferred format (CD or cassette). Our e-mail > address is nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca. > > Good Luck and only one entry per person, please! > > > -- > The Nettwerk Network--"Connect to an Attitude...not a Problem" > > E-Mail: Nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca > Nettwerk BBS: (604) 731-7007 > Nettwerk News: news@Nettwerkwimsey.com > Tour dates: dates@Nettwerk.wimsey.com > The Catalog: catalog@Nettwerk.wimsey.com > Connect FAQ: info@Nettwerk.wimsey.com > World Wide Web: http://www.wimsey.com/nettwerk/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 13:56:35 EST From: wpabst@skidmore.EDU (william pabst) Subject: alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma list) Hey Enigma types, I'm somewhat of a lurker on this list, and I'll skip the long list of my enigma collection because reading those lists is a bit repetitive, you know? I'm at Skidmore college, upstate NY. I have a radio show (if there is anyone on the list in the area) 6-8 pm Saturdays, called "Modern Primitive," featuring enigma/dcd/deepforest/etc... Anyway, here's a letter I got that I figured folks on the list would find interesting. -Bill ps. Gavin- I bought "thinking about myself" and it is really nice. Alex Pomeranz writes: > From aapomeranz@ucdavis.edu Tue Jan 3 03:19:13 1995 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 00:18:48 -0800 (PST) > From: Alex Pomeranz > X-Sender: ez050172@rocky > To: wpabst@skidmore.EDU > Subject: alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Just wanted to let you all know that alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc now exists! > Yup, we now have our own newsgroup for the discussion of Enigma, Dead Can > Dance, and other related musics! > > Now I've never created a newsgroup before, nor am I well informed as to > how the whole usenet system works, so I'm not sure how widely spread > this newsgroup will be received. I've posted announcements on > alt.exotic.music, alt.music.4ad, and alt.config. If you know of any other > appropriate places, would you be so kind as to leave a note letting the > inhabitants of that newsgroup know we exist? > > Now there's a chance that wherever you are calling from isn't receiving > alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc. If that is the case, e-mail your network > administrator and ask him if you can start receiving it. I know that here, > at UC Davis, we don't receive any newsgroups until they are "ratified" by > our administrator. Thus at the moment, not even I am receiving > alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc. But I should be there shortly. I volunteer > myself to compile a FAQ of relevant information, so if you should happen > to know of anything you should like to see in it, please E-mail me. > > So now I've basically done my part. Now it's your turn. Get the newsgroup, > enter it, and start posting away. ASK QUESTIONS! Good starters would be > ones such as "Who are the members of Dead Can Dance?" and "What other groups > out there sound like Enigma?". Even if you already know the answers, ask > questions because it will get other people involved in the newsgroup and > we can get off to a roaring start. If there is no participation at the > beginning, the newsgroup will just die. Check out alt.music.ecto or > alt.music.lor-mckennitt (or something like that) for good examples of dead > newsgroups. You don't want to see that, do you? > > So I'll see you in alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc! > -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 23:06:42 -0800 From: mewilliams@ucdavis.edu (Rich) Subject: An interesting group... B-Tribe! To: ENIGMA Distribution List I have recently purchased a new CD entitled Fiesta Fatal by B-Tribe. The entire CD is good, and is worth considering if you like Enigma or Deep Forest. The beats are quite Enigma-esque. The cool rhythms are overlayed with a really cool flamenco guitar and flamenco singing, which sounds somewhat (but not exactly) like an Indian chant. It is fantastically mastered, the songs are fresh, original, and the overall mood created is awe-inspiring. I cannot say enough good things about this album. RECOMMENDED!!! If anyone else has this or has heard it, share YOUR comments, please. Rich szwill@dale.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 00:37:36 PST From: phanes@community.net Subject: An interesting group... B-Tribe! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I got the CD about 8 or so monthes ago and the sounds are quite refreshing. Though I am not tired o' the Gregorian Chant line o' music, new types of sounds and chants are interesting to here and the feelings associated with each language are quite fantastic, too :-) . I know of another band like Deep Forest and B-Tribe, but I can't think of it right at the moment. BYW, though it is not quite Enigma-esque, has anone heard of Flying Pickets, with their cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit? It is the best version of SLTS that I have heard beside th' original. It even tops Tori's! Xenophanes! "...sing while you may!' --Edward Qa-spel "...set me free, remotivate me!" --Martin L. Gore AAAA A A A A A A A A A A AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA AA AA AA AA Edward (Ward) Ernest Kadel III phanes@community.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:03:45 -0500 (EST) From: always changing probably Subject: An interesting group... B-Tribe! To: ENIGMA Distribution List i've been lurking in the background of this list for quite sometime now. i still haven't done my homework, so here ya go. my name's brahm windeler. i live in michigan (usa) and am a computer engineering major at the university of michigan. i only have the enigma albums, the us release of "age of loneliness" and the french? release of "return to innocence". i wanted to suggest another "ambient" album to the people on this list. it's called _moodswings_ by moodfood. i haven't seen anybody mention this for the time that i've been on the list, so i hope discussion of it hasn't already been drilled into the ground. it has many different styles of music on it and includes chrystie hynde (sp?) from the pretenders and jeff beck on the album. i don't know if it's available outside of the us, but i suggest you pick up a copy for yourself. it's been out since about '91, actually. later... brahm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1995 22:44:18 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: An interesting group... B-Tribe! To: ENIGMA Distribution List >I have recently purchased a new CD entitled Fiesta Fatal by B-Tribe. The >entire CD is good, and is worth considering if you like Enigma or Deep >Forest. The beats are quite Enigma-esque. The cool rhythms are overlayed >with a really cool flamenco guitar and flamenco singing, which sounds >somewhat (but not exactly) like an Indian chant. It is fantastically >mastered, the songs are fresh, original, and the overall mood created is >awe-inspiring. I cannot say enough good things about this album. >RECOMMENDED!!! If anyone else has this or has heard it, share YOUR >comments, please. I saw the video for "You Won't See Me Cry" a while ago. I didn't really have time to get much of a feel for it, but it sounded rather interesting. While on the subject of Enigma-esque albums, a while ago, someone posted a note about an album called "Vision: the music of of Hilregard Von somethingorother". I have no idea exactly what her name was, but, if memory serves, she was a thirteenth-century-or-so nun and mystic visionary. The album was proformed by a couple of classical singers (one of them a nun herself) backed up by a bank of synths. The album was released by Angel. Ring any bells? I'm asking, because I recently found a copy and was wondering if anyone had heard it. If so, is it any good? Thanks, Joseph MacKay PS: Anyone familliar With a Britich group called Orbital? Any Good? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 19:09:43 CST From: WEY56369@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU Subject: Announcement --- New Member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi: I've just joined the club. The following are my personal information: Name: Norman Wee Age: 24 Collections: Sandra's every albums (including 1 single from Arabesque), Hubert Kah, Enigma (1 and 2), Angel X. I first heard Enigma from the radio in my hometown, Singapore. My other favourite artists includes Mylene Farmer, Enzo Enzo and Swimming with Sharks (produced by Almand Volkar, who contributed quite a bit in Sandra's Long Play album). Currently, I am a senior Business Economics major in Southern Illinois University (USA) and will be graduating this coming May. I'm actually an ardent fan of Sandra and have written to her several time before. Eventually, she (or her management) sent me 2 signed pictures of her; I was thrilled ! Personally, I think her best albums are "The Long Play" and "Mirror." Actually, I was quite worried that she might retired because she hasn't released any new materials since "Close to 7." What a relief to ... her forthcoming album will be out somewhere in April. Hopefully, she will stick to the same style. By the way, does anyone have any clue what her new album may sound ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 18:37:08 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Announcement --- New Member To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hello Norman, > Swimming with Sharks (produced by Almand Volkar, who contributed quite > a bit in Sandra's Long Play album). Armand Volker used to work extensively with Cretu in the mid eigthies, and also co-produced Cretu's The Invisible Man/Die Chinesische Mauer, Moti Special albums, and the Cretu And Thiers: Belle Epoque album. He was also part of the group Munchener Freiheit, which had a small hit around 1986 with 'Highway To Freedom'. > Actually, I was quite worried that she might retired because she hasn't > released any new materials since "Close to 7." What a relief to ... > her forthcoming album will be out somewhere in April. Hopefully, > she will stick to the same style. By the way, does anyone have any > clue what her new album may sound ? The latest we've heard from Sandra was the re-release or 1993 version of 'Maria Magdalena'. This version was completely different from the classic 1985 song, and was a trance track. Hopefully the new album will be have good melodies and arrangments, as they previous albums have had. About the 93 release of 'Maria Magdlena': The 12" I bought (in Oslo) had a sticker attached saying "Snap remix", probably put on by the store. The cover says nothing about this, all it says is the usual "Produced by Michael Cretu". What is the case, was this remix in fact done by Snap? Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 14:22:56 "CST From: Jim English Subject: Attn: Joar To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey, I was wondering if I could get a copy of your Enigma headline from the WWW page (the current one). Also how many different ones have you created? Thanks, -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 12:02:16 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Attn: Joar To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Jim. > hey, I was wondering if I could get a copy of your Enigma headline from > the WWW page (the current one). Also how many different ones have you > created? There have so far been 2 logos created, both of which are available from yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/listserv/enigma/Enigma/pictures Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:39:01 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Attn: Joar To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Jan 26, 12:02pm, Gavin Stok wrote: > > hey, I was wondering if I could get a copy of your Enigma headline from > > the WWW page (the current one). Also how many different ones have you > > created? > > There have so far been 2 logos created, both of which are available > from yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/listserv/enigma/Enigma/pictures The logos were created by Geir Friestad (geir-f@hsr.no). You can check out his homepage for more of his brilliant artwork: http://www.hsr.no/~geir-f/ Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 22:05:41 CST From: Jim English Subject: Attn: Joar To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > On Jan 26, 12:02pm, Gavin Stok wrote: > > > > hey, I was wondering if I could get a copy of your Enigma headline from > > > the WWW page (the current one). Also how many different ones have you > > > created? > > > > There have so far been 2 logos created, both of which are available > > from yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/listserv/enigma/Enigma/pictures > > The logos were created by Geir Friestad (geir-f@hsr.no). You can check out > his homepage for more of his brilliant artwork: > > http://www.hsr.no/~geir-f/ > Hey, could u uuencode em and email them to me? The FTP server is full a lot of the time and such. I would appreciate it. -jim > > -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:43:10 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Attn: Joar To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Thu, 26 Jan 1995, Jim English wrote: > > > > On Jan 26, 12:02pm, Gavin Stok wrote: > > > > > > hey, I was wondering if I could get a copy of your Enigma headline from > > > > the WWW page (the current one). Also how many different ones have you > > > > created? > > > > > > There have so far been 2 logos created, both of which are available > > > from yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/listserv/enigma/Enigma/pictures > > > > The logos were created by Geir Friestad (geir-f@hsr.no). You can check out > > his homepage for more of his brilliant artwork: > > > > http://www.hsr.no/~geir-f/ > > > Hey, could u uuencode em and email them to me? The FTP server is full a lot > of the time and such. I would appreciate it. > -jim Hi, I had problems trying to access them (probably busy!). I was wondering if you could also do that for me. I would also appreciate it a lot. -Alex de Dios ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:29:41 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: bad luck (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:51:33 -0700 (MST) From: "C. Frederick Palmer" To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Subject: bad luck Hi everyone I was robbed yesterday, while I was out of town. They took a lot of stuff including part of my CD collection. They got my MCMXC.. limited edition, sadeness part 1 (import), mea culpa part 2(import), the age of lonliness(import), and the eyes of truth(import). Thank god they didn't take anything else. I would really appreciate it if you all could post addresses and phone numbers to stores and mail order companies that I might be able to use to start replacing them. It would really help a lot. thanks FREDRICK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:42:03 -600 (CST) From: Alfredo Cruz Subject: Deep Forest / Oldfield WWW? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I know this isn't tha' place for such "un-enigmatic" questions but. . . Does any one know if DEEP FOREST or MIKE OLDFIELD have a Web location and/or their own mailing list????? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Alfredo B. Cruz, Chairman, Department of Art + Our Lady of the Lake University + 411 S. W. 24th Street + San Antonio, Texas 78207-4689 -- (210) 434-6711, X-435 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 10:53:37 EST From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Delerium To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, I just bought yesterday Delerium's Semantic Spaces. Boy do I now understand why people thought this music was like enigma. (Actually, I'd call it Enigma-lite.) I find the music interesting, but it doesn't appeal at that low level, non-describable level that Enigma's music. Sorry I can't say it better. Let me put it this way, there are some songs by Enigma (umm, like Age of Loneliness) which cause chills to go down my spine. I don't get that from Delerium. But still, the music itself is very enjoyable. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 22:03:49 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: Delerium: Semantic Spaces To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Below, is a promo I received from Nettwerk, Delerium's record company, after I dropped them a note. - Joseph MacKay >>Date: Mon, 02 Jan 95 11:10:18 -0800 >>To: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca >>Subject: Re: Delerium: Semantic Spaces >>From: Nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca (Nettwerk) >> >>DELERIUM >> >> >>DELERIUM is Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber, best known as the creative minds >>behind FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY. Unsatisfied by sitting idle between projects, >>Bill and Rhys began compiling music that facilitated their need to create >>something that became the flip side to that of FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY. >>DELERIUM was formed in 1987 as an ambient project with ethnical/ tribal >>influences. They stood in the forefont of this musical genre as shown by >>the early use of sampling chanting monks into their music. Previous >>recordings of their music were released through Dossier Records of Germany. >> >>On Semantic Spaces, DELERIUM wanted to incorporate vocals. Based on a >>suggestion, they invited new labelmate Kristy Thirsk of the ROSE >>CHRONICLES to offer up her vocals onto selected tracks. >> >>Semantic Spaces was recorded in Vancouver at Cryogenics Studios. >>Engineering and editing performed by Greg Reely. The first single >>Incantation has been released as promotional only but surfaces on the first >>commercial single Flowers Become Screens. >> >> >>DISCOGRAPHY: >> >>1987- Faces, Forms & Illusions- Dossier >>1988- Morpheus- Dossier >>1989- Syrophenikan- Dossier >>1990- Stone Tower- Dossier >>1991- Euphoric- single- Third Mind / Roadrunner >>1992- Spiritual Archives- Dossier >>1994- Spheres 1 &2 - Dossier >>1994- Semantic Spaces- Nettwerk >>1994- Flowers Become Screens- CD5- Nettwerk >> >> >> >>-- >> The Nettwerk Network--"Connect to an Attitude...not a Problem" >> >> E-Mail: Nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca >> Nettwerk BBS: (604) 731-7007 >> Nettwerk News: news@Nettwerkwimsey.com >> Tour dates: dates@Nettwerk.wimsey.com >> The Catalog: catalog@Nettwerk.wimsey.com >> Connect FAQ: info@Nettwerk.wimsey.com >> World Wide Web: http://www.wimsey.com/nettwerk/ >> >> > ------------------------------------ Doug MacKay The Daily News, Halifax (902) 468-1222 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 14:49:31 EST From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Do you know? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Sorry, this isn't Enigma, but maybe curiously related. I heard a song last night by Paul Monsi(sp?) and the group Honui(sp?). It was a version of the song Alba (composed by Runrig). What struck me was that it seemed to be predominantly samples, with the majority of the singing by some natives of the Brazilian rain forrest. The refrain was a cross of scottish musicians (the dj claimed they were well known) and samplings of Runrig. Does anyone know any details? I heard the song late at night in my car. (Hardly an ideal time for taking notes.) Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 19:39:00 -0700 (MST) From: Charles Wertz Subject: Enigma-like music To: enigma list I'd like some more information on B-Tribe's Fiesta Fatal, and Michael Oldfield's new, supposedly Enigma-like album (can't remember what it's called)... opinions, reviews, and stuff like that would be greatly appreciated. While I'm on the subject, has anyone heard about this new album called 'Vision'? It features the music of Hildegard von Bingen, with some 12th century chants and "world beat rhythms". The ad in _Rolling Stone_ lists a 1-800 number you can call to hear what it sounds like, and I called it, but it wasn't too clear. If anyone has this CD, I'd like to hear what they think about it. Incidentally, 'Vision' is being released on the ANGEL record label, the same group who released 'Chant', which I thought was a pretty lame CD (I need music with my Gregorian chants...). If anyone else wants to try the 1-800 number, here it is... 1-800-5ANGEL5. A recording will ask for your area code. After you put it in, it asks for the access number, which is 113. Off the subject, has anyone heard the new song from Deep Forest on the Pret-a-Porter (ready to wear) movie soundtrack? It's called "Martha", and it seems to use oriental chants along with the pygmy chants. I like it a lot, and now I can't wait for the new Deep Forest album. (When is it coming?!?!) Later, Charlie cwertz@cc.dixie.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 22:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Robby A. Berry" Subject: Enigma-like music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > While I'm on the subject, has anyone heard about this new album called >'Vision'? [snip] I've had "Vision" for about a month; here's what I can tell you about it. "Vision" is a musical project undertaken by contemporary Christian/new age artist Richard Souther, and features the vocals of Emily van Evera and Sister Germaine Fritz OSB. The lyrics and melodies were written by Hildegard von Bingen, a 12th century nun and composer (among other things). Souther has taken these songs and placed them in a more modern context by composing music to complement them. Souther has stayed closer to the original music than Enigma, Deep Forest, and similar groups; that is, he does not splice together bits from different songs together, or electronically alter the vocals (aside from reverb and the occasional echo), or rearrange the order of the lyrics (which are in Latin, by the way.) The sound of Souther's musical compositions is pretty close to his other work (some of his other albums are "Heirborne", "InnerMission", "Cross Currents" and "Twelve Tribes".) Souther is an above-average composer, IMO-- he has a good sense of melody, he knows how to inject variety into a tune, and he has a good (though not spectacular) sense of tension and release. The sound is fairly mainstream-- you could play it most of it on any easy listening station and not raise too many eyebrows. Souther's choice of synth sounds is fairly conservative (no filter sweeps or mutilated samples), but the timbres are well orchestrated. Most of "Vision" is not very danceable, although bits of "Living Fountains" do get the blood flowing, and a few of the other tunes have fairly "heavy" (though not dancey) rhythms. This music is more appropriate for relaxing, meditating or deliberate listening. I wouldn't describe this music as "world music", although some of the rhythms have a vaguely tribal feel to them. As for the lyrics, Fritz' and van Evera's singing is nothing short of superb. These women could sing Sandra under the table, and even Kristy Thirsk would feel a little nervous in their presence. So is it any good? Yes, I think it is. I've always enjoyed Souther's music, and the addition of some downright beautiful vocal work by Fritz and van Evera makes for a wonderful listening experience. IMO, the mark of truly good music is its ability to transcend lingual and ideoligical barriers. "Vision" does that-- I'm an atheist who speaks not a smidgeon of Latin, and I still found the CD delightful. (Which reminds me-- an English translation of the lyrics is included, along with the Latin originals.) I would recommend "Vision" to you if you fit any of the following: 1. You have an interest in old religious music, and don't mind seeing it put in a modern context. 2. You are a fan of Richard Souther's other work. 3. You have a thing for ethereal female vocals. 4. You are a fan of new age music in general. I would *NOT* recommend "Vision" to you if you fit any of these: 1. You are a musical purist who thought "Deep Forest" was exploitive and "MCMXCAD a.D." was downright blasphemous. (In which case, why are you even here? :-) 2. You insist that your music be danceable. (Unless you're willing to buy an entire CD for the sake of one song, in which case "Living Fountains" might redeem the CD for you.) 3. The thought of purchasing music by a contemporary Christian artist repulses you. 4. You do not like music that sounds even remotely mainstream. (And if you fit under *both* sets of categories? Call the 800 number, I suppose. :-) I've been meaning to write a review of this CD for some time now. If I do get around to it, I'll post a copy here, providing that's okay with the list coordinators. Hope this helps! Sincerely, Rob Berry -- berry@osc.edu http://www.mps.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/hpp?RAB_home.html Resume, PGP public key available via finger, or see my WWW homepage. Disclaimer: I speak for nobody but myself. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:47:07 -0600 (CST) From: TIMOTHY HERPIN Subject: Enigma - new subscriber To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I'm new to the server and was typing up something earlier to send when the computer locked up, and I accidently sent the half completed message. Sorry. Well, like I said earlier. My name is Tim herpin. I'm a student of Texas A&M Univeristy. I'm majoring in business and am expected to graduate in May. I've been a fan of Enigma since MCMXC ad and have been collecting every since. I have alway's tried to find others who are collectors, or remotely interested, but usually I just find those who are just slightly interested. As far as my collection goes, I have all the singles and imports from the first album except for the import Rivers Of Belief single. I have the radio promo, but not the import. I also don't have the video compilation for MCMXCad, but am looking. For Cross of Changes I have the import from Austria, the domestic, and the Lim Edt Gold Plated. I also have all the singles. I just recently bought the Michael Cretu album The Invisible Man ( english lyrics.) I have a few other misc. things, but can't remember them at the moment. I would be interested to hear what else is out there, as well as any information on Enigma. Other groups that I listen to are: Duran Duran, A-ha, New Order, Nine Inch Nails, One Dove, INXS, U2. PLus a lot others. I have a wide range of taste. I like a lot of the instrumental - ambient type of music. Tim Herpin TAH3576@zeus.tamu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 02:32:38 +0100 From: Hartmut Keller Subject: Enigma in German TV To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, sorry, it seems that my announcement was too late. But it's not my mistake. I posted it on Friday afternoon, and I had no idea that e-mail may take two days to Australia. So I got my own announcement today, Sunday, in the enigma-digest. I always thought it was a matter of minutes. :-( Well, at least I will give a summary of the 25 minutes special here: The whole thing starts with impressions of Ibiza to the music of "Rivers of believe", going soon to the video of "Sadeness". Now follow impressions of Michael Cretu's house on Ibiza, his studio, his pool, his gold and platinum albums on the wall. Then follows "The dream of the dolphin" with M.C. playing the keyboards in his studio and the video "The eyes of truth". After that we see M.C. sitting in front of his Computers playing some sound samples. The last video is "Return to Innocence". Every now and then there are pieces of an interview with M.C. thrown in. There he tells that he had liked it if it had never gotten known who is behind of Enigma, as he doesn't like it how there's always made a cult out of such a project. His change from classic music to pop music was when he heard YES. He also likes groups like Emmerson Lake & Palmer or Jethro Tull, bands in general that have a thread in their songs. During the beginning, the formation of his songs he has to be totally alone, to concentrate on his feelings and emotions to bring them into the form of music. This often takes some time and he should not be interrupted in these phases. If someone comes in and just says "Hello" he often needs another two hours to get back to the right mood. The whole thing ends with the following statement about Enigma: "Das ist wahrscheinlich mit die beste Arbeit, die ich je gemacht habe. ... Ob's Enigma 3 geben wird oder nicht, weiss ich nicht. Ich habe mir vorgenommen, solange mir eigentlich strange Ideen noch einfallen, wo ich wirklich dieses Level, diesen Anspruch an irgendwas erfinderisches hinter der Musik, so ein bisschen das Jules-Verne-artige aufrecht erhalten kann, da wird es Spass machen, unter dem Namen Enigma was zu machen; und ich werde garantiert etwas, was so schoen gelaufen ist und mir soviel bedeutet und gegeben hat, auch in kuenstlerischer Art und Weise, werde ich nie zerstoeren nur aus kommerziellen Gruenden und sag: 'Na ja, der Name ist noch gut genug, mir faellt zwar nichts mehr ein, aber druecken wir denen noch Enigma 3 rein', oder so. Das werde ich garantiert nicht machen. Und wer mich gut kennt, weiss, ich mein's wirklich ehrlich." (And again the more or less successful translation) "This is probably the best thing I've ever done. ... Whether there will be Enigma 3 or not, I don't know. I think, as long as I have strange ideas, as long as I can hold this level, this inventive demand, the Jules-Verne-kind of things, it'll be fun to make music under the name of Enigma; and I definitely won't destroy something that went so well and that means so much to me and that has given me so much artistically; just to make the quick money, and say: 'Well, the name is still good enough, I don't come up with something new, but let's push another Enigma 3'. This, I definitely won't do. And those who now me well enough, know, I truly mean it." Well, sorry again for the late announcement, but I just came to know of it when I incidentally saw a TV-trailer for the Enigma special on Friday noon. So I posted it as early as possible when I was at my university on Friday afternoon. So long, Hartmut -- \\''''// (0 0) @---------------oOO---------(_)-------------------------------* | Hartmut Keller, Karpatenstr. 34, 71069 Sindelfingen | | keller@hermes.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de | @----------------------------------------oOO------------------* |__|__| || || ooO Ooo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 18:25:14 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Enigma in German TV To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi Hartmut, > sorry, it seems that my announcement was too late. But it's not my > mistake. I posted it on Friday afternoon, and I had no idea that > e-mail may take two days to Australia. So I got my own announcement > today, Sunday, in the enigma-digest. I always thought it was a matter > of minutes. :-( Your message missed the digest that was sent out at midnight (Europe time) on Friday by only two hours - usually messages don't take that much time to get to Australia and back. > impressions of Michael Cretu's house on Ibiza, his studio, his pool, > his gold and platinum albums on the wall. Then follows "The dream of > the dolphin" with M.C. playing the keyboards in his studio and the > video "The eyes of truth". After that we see M.C. sitting in front of > his Computers playing some sound samples. The last video is "Return to > Innocence". This sounds very similar to what is in the "Official EPK" of The CROSS Of Changes, and I bet Cretu was playing the big drum sound from 'Silent Warrior'! Was the program done by "The Torpedo Twins" (Rudi Dolezal and Hannes Rossacher)? In addition to doing the EPK they did Sandra's Ten On One (The Singles) video compilation, and probably other Sandra videos as well. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:07:31 -0500 (EST) From: Reji Sreedharan Subject: Enigma remixes To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I've heard recently that there are several remixes of songs from MCMXC and CoC being put out by MC Curly. This is new news to me but it may be old to you. However, as I understand it, these new releases were available only in certain countries. Does anyone know of these remixes and if they are available in the US? I currently have both MCMXC and CoC and would like to expand my Enigma collection. Thanks. Reji Sreedharan st90cm9a@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 01:59:16 PST From: phanes@community.net Subject: Enigma y DM To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au 'lO thar friend 'o Daniel Forman. I am very sorry that it took so long ta give thou a lit'l ring back! Yes, in fact I love DM. >Do you have "Songs of Faith and Devotion" I have all of their albums, actually and I really like the new turn they're going towards. You'd probably love SoFaD Live even more. The songs have a lot more electricity. (Sorry fo' the varied topic, enigma-ones, It is only a one-time thing ;-) ). Talk ta thou later... Xenophanes! "Sing while you may...' --Edward Qa-spel "...set me free, remotivate me!" --Martin L. Gore AAAA A A A A A A A A A A AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA AA AA AA AA Edward (Ward) Ernest Kadel III phanes@community.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:14:18 -0700 (MST) From: "E. T. Schaffner" Subject: Faces of Sadeness To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au A friend of mine played his latest laser disc for me: a japanese print of Faces of Sadeness. I had never heard of it before and my friend said it was very difficult to get a hold of. IT WAS FANTASTIC! It included all the MCMXC a.D. videos, but also had videos for EVERY song on the album, from the Voice of Enigma to the Rivers of Belief. I'll see if I can get a hold of the publishing information and pass it along to all of you. -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:30:50 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Faces of Sadeness To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Eric. > A friend of mine played his latest laser disc for me: a japanese print of > Faces of Sadeness. I had never heard of it before and my friend said it > was very difficult to get a hold of. > > IT WAS FANTASTIC! It included all the MCMXC a.D. videos, but also had > videos for EVERY song on the album, from the Voice of Enigma to the > Rivers of Belief. > > I'll see if I can get a hold of the publishing information and pass it > along to all of you. The item is already known of and is also available on VHS in the UK (and maybe Europe). All details are in the discography. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:00:05 -0800 (PST) From: Rainith Subject: Figure skating (yes it is enigma related) To: Enigma mailing list Hey everybody... did anyone else in the US see the 'rock and roll figure skating championship' ? If so you may have noticed on her first routine Oksana Biaul (sp?) Used Sadeness as the song she was skating too... and she did a very good interpretation of it IMHO. Well that's all... Rainith +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Life sucks, get a fucking helmet. -Denis Leary | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 20:38:05 CST From: Jim English Subject: Figure skating (yes it is enigma related) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > > Hey everybody... did anyone else in the US see the 'rock and roll figure > skating championship' ? If so you may have noticed on her first routine > Oksana Biaul (sp?) Used Sadeness as the song she was skating too... and > she did a very good interpretation of it IMHO. > > Well that's all... > > Rainith > Yea, I caught it. I thought her performance was simplistic and a disgrace to the music accompaning it. It was just blah, but it was cool to hear enigma being used. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "God damn bushmaster." "Is it, uhhh, is it poisonous?" "Yup, but very tasty!" ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:22:24 -0500 (EST) From: MiliCorr Subject: Figure skating (yes it is enigma related) To: ENIGMA Distribution List Yes, Yes! I would agree with her interpretation too. It was nice to see someone doing a decent song instead of that rap garbage Petrenko used...and Kenny G! ARGH! Anyway, did you see her and that guy talking at the end about how sexual the performance was? I thought that was interesting, because I never considered the song that sexual until seeing her performance. Jim Gilliam On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Rainith wrote: > > Hey everybody... did anyone else in the US see the 'rock and roll figure > skating championship' ? If so you may have noticed on her first routine > Oksana Biaul (sp?) Used Sadeness as the song she was skating too... and > she did a very good interpretation of it IMHO. > > Well that's all... > > Rainith > > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > |Life sucks, get a fucking helmet. -Denis Leary | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:40:11 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Figure skating (yes it is enigma related) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > at the end about how sexual the performance was? I thought that was > interesting, because I never considered the song that sexual until seeing > her performance. are you kidding? ;). Have you seen the video clip for Sadeness? Sexual _is_ the song. The whole album has a strong erotic theme through it; that's why its so great :) Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 00:35:58 +0000 From: csb1@engr.engr.uark.edu (Chris Bray) Subject: Found To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Picked up the Cross of Changes Limited Edition this weekend while in Tulsa, OK. Then I went to a newly opened Blockbuster Music (a chain store), and found 3 copies of it for $24.99 each, copies of "Out from the Deep", and import copies of "Sadeness Part 1", and "Mea Culpa". Unfortunately, I already had all of those :-(, so I couldn't buy them... The prices were $9.99 each for the singles (new). Chris -- ============================================================================== csb1@engr.uark.edu | Chris Bray cbray@comp.uark.edu | University of Arkansas, Fayetteville cbray@nyx.cs.du.edu | WWW: http://www.engr.uark.edu/~csb1 ============================================================================== If you were a poor Indian with no weapons, and a bunch of conquistadors came up to you and asked where the gold was, I don't think it would be a good idea to say, "I swallowed it. So sue me." ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jan 95 17:20:46 CST From: Jim English Subject: Found To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > > Picked up the Cross of Changes Limited Edition this weekend while > in Tulsa, OK. > > Then I went to a newly opened Blockbuster Music (a chain store), > and found 3 copies of it for $24.99 each, copies of "Out from the Deep", > and import copies of "Sadeness Part 1", and "Mea Culpa". > > Unfortunately, I already had all of those :-(, so I couldn't buy > them... > > The prices were $9.99 each for the singles (new). > > Chris Hey! I live in Tulsa. Wow, I thought no-one was near here. too cool. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "God damn bushmaster." "Is it, uhhh, is it poisonous?" "Yup, but very tasty!" ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:35:49 -0500 (EST) From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: GEMM To: ENIGMA Distribution List Point your Web browsers at http://gemm.com/ and do a search on "enigma". A number of interesting items are for sale. -- John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html A n d T h r o u g h T h e W i r e P e t e r G a b r i e l http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/pg.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: "karol j. cios" Subject: Hello To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au As a new member I guess I have to introduce myself... I am Karol Cios, 19 years of age, I posess the two enigma albums, I like enigma but I don't know if I could be called a fan, currenmtly studying at University of Michigan (mechanical engineering) yeah I know borring stuff...well maybe not...that's about all...thanks... J.C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:15:56 +0100 (MET) From: hammer1 Subject: hello To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello everybody, I'm new this mailing list. Let me tell something about myself. I'm from Holland, 19 years old and I'm studying electronics at this moment. I've always like the music from Enigma but since I heard their CD 'Cross of changes' from a friend, i immediately bought a copy myself and soon I bought their first CD too. I'm a big fan of their great, relaxing music now! Greetings, = RIcardo Kustner = E-Mail : hammer1@xs4all.nl ...Loneliness... I feel loneliness in my room... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 20:47:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: INTRODUCTION AND QUESTION To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Richard said and asked - RT> the Video MCMXC AD - The Complete Video Album. However, the Hi-Fi left RT> channel sounded dull and was a couple of dB down on the right channel. RT> took it back last Saturday, got a replacement, but unfortunately this o RT> is the same! The cymbals are all from the right channel, and if I play RT> album to compare it, this has the cymbals crisp and clear on both track I checked mine. Channels are balanced. Alls well. Yep, cymbals are on the right, but doesn't sound out of place. This copy was done in Germany. Persist with your complaint to the supplier as I had problems with the recent Jarre and Santana videos and were eventually replaced. The Jarre after one replacement, and the Santana after 6, yes 6. Yep they thought I was mad! Send the video back to the distributor, say you have heard that there are foreign copies that are fine. Keep at them with FAXs and letters!! Good luck, this is the price you pay for perfection and you will lift the standard. Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 22:19:09 +0000 From: Richard Travett Subject: Introduction and Question on MCMXC AD Video To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Folks, Thought I ought to introduce myself. Name: Richard Travett Age: 29 Enigma Collection: MCMXC AD CD (Ordinairy edition) Cross Of Changes CD (Ordinairy Edition) Cross Of Changes CD (Special Edition) And now: MCMXC AD Video (More below!) Plus (recommended from the list): Deep Forest Mike Oldfield - Sounds of Distant Earth. Other Artists I like: (In no particular order) Genesis Peter Gabriel Enya Clannad Deep Forest Pink Floyd Tangerine Dream Fish / Earlier Marillion Rush Seal Simple Minds (Enough to be going on with!?) Job: Software Team Leader working for Philips Telecom - PMR based in Cambridge England. Other Interesting Info: I am a Star Trek Fan, mainly 'The Next Generation' 'DS9' and also Babylon 5. I also like the X-Files. I have a large CD collection approx 300. Now, the question. Not last Saturday, but the Saturday before, I bought the Video MCMXC AD - The Complete Video Album. However, the Hi-Fi left channel sounded dull and was a couple of dB down on the right channel. I took it back last Saturday, got a replacement, but unfortunately this one is the same! The cymbals are all from the right channel, and if I play the album to compare it, this has the cymbals crisp and clear on both tracks. Anyone else got the video (especially in the UK) and can tell me whether yours is the same? If it isn't then I'll try and get another replacement sorted out. Thanks for your time, Best wishes to all on the list. -- Bye for now //// Rick :-) (o o) +====================================================oOO==(_)==OOo=========+ I Richard Travett, Cambridge, England. rick@phantasm.demon.co.uk I I Amateur Radio aka: G8XYS@GB7MHD.#22.GBR.EU or g8xys@g8xys.ampr.org I +==========================================================================+ If Adam and Eve were created by God - Did they have tummy buttons? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 21:22:52 -0500 (EST) From: Reji Sreedharan Subject: Introduction and Question on MCMXC AD Video To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, Welcome to the club. I'm not sure if this will help or not but when I purchased the Cross of Change release last year, I had the same sound problems you described. More specifically, the sound was very muffled sounding and the volume seemed to fluctuate widely. Maybe there is a connection somewhere. Reji ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 95 21:51:57 CST From: Jim English Subject: Introduction and Question on MCMXC AD Video To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) Hey, do u know where I can buy the video? I figure that if I can get an original PAL copy then I can find a place here (in Oklahoma in the USA) that will spin me an NTSC copy off it (since I legally own the original). And I figure this whole thing will be cheaper than paying ($70) for the NTSC Japanese laser disc. Thanks for any help, and may I say that this really pisses me off that the fool record companies force us to this because they give us here in the us the video with sadeness and meaculpa and everyone in europe gets the video album. God bless america! :( thppbt! -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "God damn bushmaster." "Is it, uhhh, is it poisonous?" "Yup, but very tasty!" ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:42:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Stefan van Nunen" Subject: MCMXC a.D. Laser Disc To: (Enigma Mailinglist) Hi there! Does anybody know where in Europe I can buy or order Enigma's "MCMXC a.D." on Laser Disc? Stefan van Nunen (Eindhoven, The Netherlands) ----------------------------------------- I don't know my future | Hi girls: Stefan J.F. van Nunen | after this weekend | E-mail: S.J.F.v.Nunen@stud.tue.nl | and I don't want to | or: stefann@stack.urc.tue.nl | | url: http://huizen.dds.nl/~quarck/ | -- Bjork, ----------------------------------------- Big Time Sensuality ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 23:36:58 -0700 (MST) From: DANTE@APSICC.APS.EDU Subject: MCMXC AD VIDEOS To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Where could I get a copy of MCMXC AD - The Complete Videos? I live in the United States, but I have access to a PAL VCR. Any Information would be appreciated! Thanks! Dante............................. dante@apsicc.aps.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 14:19:23 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: MCMXC AD VIDEOS To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Dante. > Where could I get a copy of MCMXC AD - The Complete Videos? I live in the > United States, but I have access to a PAL VCR. Any Information would be > appreciated! Thanks! You'll have to get one imported from the UK. Go to your local import store, give them the exact details (available in the Enigma discography) and see what they can do for you. Good luck! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 02:48:38 -0600 (CST) From: TAIPAN@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: MCMXC AD VIDEOS To: ENIGMA Distribution List > > > Where could I get a copy of MCMXC AD - The Complete Videos? I live in the > > United States, but I have access to a PAL VCR. Any Information would be > > appreciated! Thanks! > If you can use mosaic or netscape, try to access http://www.cdnow.com They got large selections of local CDs(U.S), imported cds as well as VHS music video. I know they also got the enigma video which costs about $9 plus shipping and handling. Check it out if you want, it's also a very interesting site though. Taipan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jan 95 11:09:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MCMXC AD VIDEOS To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au DD> Where could I get a copy of MCMXC AD - The Complete Videos? I live in DD> United States, but I have access to a PAL VCR. Any Information would b DD> appreciated! Thanks! Red Eye Records in Sydney have stock. About A$45. D * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jan 95 13:55:06 CST From: Jim English Subject: MCMXC AD VIDEOS To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > > DD> Where could I get a copy of MCMXC AD - The Complete Videos? I live in > DD> United States, but I have access to a PAL VCR. Any Information would b > DD> appreciated! Thanks! > > > Red Eye Records in Sydney have stock. About A$45. > > D > Address? Phone number? Ordering information? Do they ship to the US? Please supply more information. Thanks -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 16:21:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MCMXC AD VIDEOS To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au JE> Address? Phone number? Ordering information? JE> Do they ship to the US? they ship anywhere..for the money! JE> Please supply more information. Thanks Red Eye Records +61 2 233 8177 GPO Box 211 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia ask for Adam (manager). Say I sent you. You can pick up the 'Out from The Deep' single at the same time...but Ear/rational has it (just bought it) Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 95 16:46:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au IR> > What else can you say? Does it sound anything like Mike Oldfield...me IR> > has he really changed? IR> Indeed it has the signature of MO. but it is a much more 'ambient' soun IR> that his earlier work, you can recognize his guitar playing inmediately IR> but it is softer. Thank you Gunnar and Alex for the information!! Much appreciated from one who tired of Oldfield a long time ago. I'll give it a bash! Anyone got one to trade/sell? Will swap this single: Enigma - Mea Culpa part II - single and either one of these for it! Sandra - 18 Greatest Hits (Virgin) Sandra - Close to Seven (Virgin) Don don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au * POB 696 Manly NSW 2095 Australia * +612 976 2056 * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:28:15 -0600 (CST) From: rubli@noc.pue.udlap.mx (Ing. Alexander Rubli) Subject: Mike Oldfield SODE To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just wanted to share this info. I am a fan of Mike Oldfield, and ther has been a lot of discussion about his new album, the songs of distant earth. many people claim that they don't like it, that it sounds like a mixture of aphex twins, Tangerine Dream and ENIGMA. I don't quite share this point of view, I like the CD very much. indeed there are some passages that resembles enigma. I think any enigma fan will find SODE an intersting album... alex rubli ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jan 95 20:50:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Alexander Rubli said - IR> I don't quite share this point of view, I like the CD very much. IR> indeed there are some passages that resembles enigma. IR> I think any enigma fan will find SODE an intersting album... sounds interesting. Is this a double CD? What else can you say? Does it sound anything like Mike Oldfield...meaning, has he really changed? Thanx... Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:26:50 +0100 From: Gunnar Thalin Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE To: ENIGMA Distribution List DON WEIR writes: > > Is this a double CD? > > What else can you say? Does it sound anything like Mike Oldfield...meaning, > has he really changed? I did not write the original message, but I also have this album and I totally agree with him. I REALLY like this CD. It's not a double CD (at least mine isn't). It lasts about 56 minutes and contains 17 tracks (if I remember correctly). Compared to the Mike Oldfield stuff that I have heard before (and didn't like all that much), this one has more of an atmosphere, nice Enigma-like beats. It also has some Gregorian chants, and other vocal stuff similar to Enigma. The biggest similarity to his previous work is the use of melodic, disted guitars. ------------------------------------------ Gunnar Thalin, Uppsala University Sweden Email: d90gth@csd.uu.se ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:21:06 -0600 (CST) From: rubli@noc.pue.udlap.mx (Ing. Alexander Rubli) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > > Alexander Rubli said - > > IR> I don't quite share this point of view, I like the CD very much. > IR> indeed there are some passages that resembles enigma. > > IR> I think any enigma fan will find SODE an intersting album... > > sounds interesting. > > Is this a double CD? > > What else can you say? Does it sound anything like Mike Oldfield...meaning, > has he really changed? > Indeed it has the signature of MO. but it is a much more 'ambient' sound that his earlier work, you can recognize his guitar playing inmediately, but it is softer. It is really a nice album. and it is a soundtrack for a A. Clark movie, which MO has been presumably invited for being the director. Usually soundtarcks make not such a good album as a 'stand-alone' album, anyway it is quite good. regards alex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1995 22:44:12 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE To: ENIGMA Distribution List >> >> Alexander Rubli said - >> >> IR> I don't quite share this point of view, I like the CD very much. >> IR> indeed there are some passages that resembles enigma. >> >> IR> I think any enigma fan will find SODE an intersting album... >> >> sounds interesting. >> >> Is this a double CD? >> >> What else can you say? Does it sound anything like Mike Oldfield...meaning, >> has he really changed? >> > >Indeed it has the signature of MO. but it is a much more 'ambient' sound >that his earlier work, you can recognize his guitar playing inmediately, >but it is softer. > >It is really a nice album. and it is a soundtrack for a A. Clark movie, >which MO has been presumably invited for being the director. I don't suppose that A Clark would be Arthur C Clark, would he? Joseph MacKay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 20:30:14 -0700 (MST) From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) >> It is really a nice album. and it is a soundtrack for a A. Clark movie, >> which MO has been presumably invited for being the director. > > I don't suppose that A Clark would be Arthur C Clark, would he? The album is based on the novel of the same name by Arthur C. Clarke. It is *not* a "soundtrack to a movie" or any other such thing. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Visit http://rt66.com/lazlo/ for Discographies, Record ::: Collecting Resources, The Internet Music Wantlists, and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 22:42:43 -0600 (CST) From: hime@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Andrew Hime) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SODE To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is totally unrelated. but Orbital are great. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 1995 12:41:53 -0700 From: NeMartell@vaxsar.vassar.edu (Nevin Martell) Subject: new me To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au hey- my names nevin martell, i'm a sophmore at vassar college in poughkeepsie, ny and i'm 20 years old. i have both the enigma albums and i think that they're two of the best albums to have sex to. i'm a huge fan, but i haven't gone out and bought all the singles with remixes though. other fave bands include suede, oasis, the replacements, pj, rem, the lemonheads,counting crows, catherine wheel and deep forest. i am the arts ed. for my college paper and my biggest interest is music so that's why i'm on the list.....staycool. nevin. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:22:43 +0800 (PST) From: claudio@x.co.uk Subject: Ordering Imports To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Could someone at least give me the phone number for Tower Records? I > believe they are in Picadilly Circus (sp?) in London? I don't have the phone number for Tower, but i always get my UK cd's from "Bee Bees" in the UK. I only just found out that they ship anywhere in the world. Their prices are the best i've found in the UK (excepting used stores and occasional sales). The worst you can do is lose the price of a phone call to the UK to check their prices and compare them to your local importer. Also, if the item you want is on sale, they'll charge you the sale price rather than the full. Handy if you didn't know there was a sale on! Also, shipping times are very quick. I got the "Cross of Changes Limited Edition" in 2 days and they mentioned that most overseas shipments take 7 to 10 days. Anyway the number is : +44 245 323676 hope this helps, claudio p.s. I've got no connection with "Bee Bees" other than being a very satisfied customer! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 14:34:00 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Ordering Imports To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Thanks very much for your help! I'll give them a call... Regards, Jamie > > > > Could someone at least give me the phone number for Tower Records? I > > believe they are in Picadilly Circus (sp?) in London? > > I don't have the phone number for Tower, but i always get my UK cd's > from "Bee Bees" in the UK. I only just found out that they ship anywhere > in the world. Their prices are the best i've found in the UK (excepting > used stores and occasional sales). The worst you can do is lose the price > of a phone call to the UK to check their prices and compare them to your > local importer. Also, if the item you want is on sale, they'll charge you > the sale price rather than the full. Handy if you didn't know there was a > sale on! Also, shipping times are very quick. I got the "Cross of Changes > Limited Edition" in 2 days and they mentioned that most overseas shipments > take 7 to 10 days. > > Anyway the number is : +44 245 323676 > > hope this helps, > > claudio > > p.s. I've got no connection with "Bee Bees" other than being a very > satisfied customer! > > > -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 00:20:11 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: Ordering Imports To: ENIGMA Distribution List I'll make this quick.... 1: Anyone seen a video for Out From The Deep? 2: Anyone else bought B-tribe yet (It gets my guarded recomendation... Nice album, but very repetitive. Some tracks sound almost completely the same). 3: Anyone got Delerium? (I rather prefer this one. The vocal tracks -- six of 'em -- are wonderful, and the instrumentals -- seven, total -- aren't bad. My only complaint is sighted by Gavin in his review -- Sensorium is terribly directionless... not to mention just plain boring) 4: Anyone heard of a group called Will? 5: Who out there is familliar with Sandra's solo work? (I seem to be the only one who isn't) Thanks to anyone who's interested.... Joseph MacKay Halifax dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 13:47:37 +0100 (MET) From: hammer1 Subject: Ordering Imports To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Wed, 25 Jan 1995 dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca wrote: > > I'll make this quick.... > > 1: Anyone seen a video for Out From The Deep? yes i saw it a few times on MTV-Europe.. it's great! > 4: Anyone heard of a group called Will? nope > > Thanks to anyone who's interested.... you're welcome :) > > Joseph MacKay > Halifax > dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca > Ricardo Kustner hammer1@xs4all.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 09:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Ordering Imports To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Wed, 25 Jan 1995 dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca wrote: > 1: Anyone seen a video for Out From The Deep? I haven't even seen the Return to Innocence video yet! :( > 2: Anyone else bought B-tribe yet (It gets my guarded recomendation... Nice > album, but very repetitive. Some tracks sound almost completely the same). Yep. I really like it! Even with the repetitiveness. I especially like the remix of Fiesta Fatal. > 3: Anyone got Delerium? (I rather prefer this one. The vocal tracks -- six > of 'em -- are wonderful, and the instrumentals -- seven, total -- aren't > bad. My only complaint is sighted by Gavin in his review -- Sensorium is > terribly directionless... not to mention just plain boring) Definitely! Thanks to the one who first recommended it (Gavin?). I especially love Track1 (Flowers...).. > 4: Anyone heard of a group called Will? Nope. > 5: Who out there is familliar with Sandra's solo work? (I seem to be the > only one who isn't) The only one I have is Into a Secret Land and I like it a lot. > Thanks to anyone who's interested.... You're welcome. > Joseph MacKay > Halifax > dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca > -Alex de Dios ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 10:08:19 +0800 (PST) From: claudio@x.co.uk Subject: Ordering Imports To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > On Wed, 25 Jan 1995 dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca wrote: > > 1: Anyone seen a video for Out From The Deep? Isn't that the one with the backwards motion and the beach? > > 2: Anyone else bought B-tribe yet (It gets my guarded recomendation... Nice > > album, but very repetitive. Some tracks sound almost completely the same). > > Yep. I really like it! Even with the repetitiveness. I especially like > the remix of Fiesta Fatal. ditto. I like the way they mixed traditional spanish guitar with a dance beat. I thought the use of the "Sadeness" drum loop for "Fiesta Fatal" was a bit obvious, but they also used some Depeche Mode samples to good effect. > > 5: Who out there is familliar with Sandra's solo work? (I seem to be the > > only one who isn't) I was into Sandra before Enigma, but then i like that 80's synth-pop! :-) If you like new wave or euro pop you'll like Sandra's stuff. The only annoying thing is that she can sound like Paula Abdul vocally. This is what puts my girlfriend off Sandra even though she loves Enigma. I'd recomend her "Paintings In Yellow" album. It's got a good mix of her early euro-pop and late enigma-like styles. claudio p.s. The "Out Of The Deep" remixes are the best since "Return To Innocence" imho! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:21:56 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Ordering Imports To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. > 1: Anyone seen a video for Out From The Deep? Nope. I'm still having enough trouble securing the CD single to it. If anyone has seen the video, please write a short description of it in the same style as that in the FAQ. You never know, I may use it and acknowledge you for it!! > 2: Anyone else bought B-tribe yet (It gets my guarded recomendation... Nice > album, but very repetitive. Some tracks sound almost completely the same). I bought it around 2 weeks ago. It is slightly too repetitive (hearing Fiesta Fatal 3 times is too much!) but has an original idea of mixing electronics with Barcelona-type music (Flamenco). I also found the mixing of tracks was pretty lousy - tracks just suddenly faded out or changed in a drastic way. There were some obvious Enigma samples too. All in all, an average album which is a nice listen but nothing special. > 3: Anyone got Delerium? (I rather prefer this one. The vocal tracks -- six > of 'em -- are wonderful, and the instrumentals -- seven, total -- aren't > bad. My only complaint is sighted by Gavin in his review -- Sensorium is > terribly directionless... not to mention just plain boring) I own Semantic Spaces and still love it. I have also heard Spheres I and Spheres II. I don't like them nearly as much as Semantic, but Spheres II in particular has some nice sounds and mixing. > 4: Anyone heard of a group called Will? Yes. It is one of the members of Delerium/Front Line Assembly with someone else (the name escapes me). The last release under this name was around 3 years ago now, and there were rumours another one may come out soon. I haven't heard any of the music. > 5: Who out there is familliar with Sandra's solo work? (I seem to be the > only one who isn't) Our intreped vice-president, Joar Grimstvedt, is full of knowledge about Sandra. Email the questions you have to the list and he will answer them. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:46:51 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Out from the Deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Can anyone procure the OUt from the Deep single for me? I'll pay them well :) Regards, Jamie Gavin, can you recommend anyone? I presume you have the single already! -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 16:17:27 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Out From the Deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Could someone at least give me the phone number for Tower Records? I believe they are in Picadilly Circus (sp?) in London? Looks like I have to do this myself. Any other Aussies want to plan something together to get a whole bunch of the singles in? Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 22:19:26 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Out From The Deep is... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The single is stocked by EAR/Rational. Email to ear-rational@xmission.com with the subject of "CATALOG ASCII". Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 08:07:51 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Out From The Deep review To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Enigma: Out From The Deep Virgin, 8 92691 2; 7243 8 92691 2 3 - DINSD 141 - PM 515 1. Out From The Deep (Radio Edit) 4:27 2. Out From The Deep (Rock Version) 6:44 Remixed by Jens Gad 3. Out From The Deep (Trance Mix) 168 BPM 5:49 Remixed by Jens Gad 4. Out From The Deep (Short Radio Edit) 3:30 Written by "Curly" M.C. Produced & engineered by "Curly" Michael Cretu Published by Enigma Songs/Mambo Music Taken from the album "The CROSS Of Changes" Samples taken from: Extracts from the album "Songs From The Victorious City" performed by Anne Dudley and Jeremy "Jaz" Coleman on China Records; publ: EG Music/BMG Music Publishing Ltd/EMI Songs Ltd. "The Calling" by APL taken from their forthcoming album on Beyond Records; publ: Chrysalis Music Publishing Ltd. (P) 1994 Virgin Schallplatten GmbH (C) 1994 Virgin Schallplatten GmbH The cover is similar to the cover of The CROSS Of Changes, with the android figure walking and the black background, but without the circle. The colour of the figure is also yellow-ish, instead of the mint colour on the album cover. The CD itself is black, with no illustrations. The Radio Edit is the one on the album, no changes. The Rock Version opens with a low drone (as has at least one of the mixes on each of the previous three singles...). A note sequence comes in, and relaxed drums join. Cretu sings the phrase "we came out from the deep" twice. Then the percussion gets heavier, and a distorted electric guitar is introduced, together with a new bass line. This riff plays on, and we hear Cretu's phrase, together with the backwards playing of it. The bleeps and swirling voices from the original version are put to use. After a couple of repetitions of this part Jens Gad performs an expanded guitar solo based on what he plays in the original version. The main riff then plays again, and as Cretu sings "that's why we are here" the song fades out. The sound of wind opens the Trance Mix of Out From The Deep. Some simple notes fade in, and the music builds up as other sounds are introduced, and soon the drums and bass are in place. "Deep, deep" is heard, and later the whole phrase is used. But just as you think you know the direction this mix is going to take, a peculiar electric sound breaks the music, and the bass and drums builds up again. This time though we are treated to arpeggios, notes running through the scale, whilst the chords climb. Very nice and indeed trancy. Later on Cretu sings the first verse, and the "trance part" is repeated. Again the phrase "that's why we are here" ends the song. The last track is the Short Radio Edit, which is identical to the Radio Edit except that it loses the guitar solo. The two new mixes on this single are not very complex, as has been the case with the MCMXC a.D. singles and the last two singles. They were both done by Jens Gad alone, with Michael Cretu seemingly not involved at all. On the singles from the first album the remixes were solely done by Cretu. With the ones from the second album Jens Gad has joined in, and we have seen mixes were the guitar has been prominent (like the 380 Midnight Mix of Return To Innocence). The Rock Version of Out From The Deep comes therefore as a natural thing. The resulting mix is probably the track which is most removed from what Enigma has become known for, but it nonetheless works well. The Trance Mix is not bad either, and it at one point hints on a whole new direction for Enigma. This is probably the last Enigma release we'll see for some time - indeed, this single is just released in a selected few countries. The remixes for the CROSS Of Changes singles have sought to make upbeat dance versions of the original tracks, with the exception of Return To Innocence. There have been no references across the singles, as was the case with the first album. In fact, the singles here (bar Sadeness) could be considered as MCMXC a.D. Remixed. This has not been the case with The CROSS Of Changes and the releases from it. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:42:08 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Out From The Deep samples To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Excerpts of the two mixes of Out From The Deep (Rock Version and Trance Mix) can now be found on the Enigma web page. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 12:00:34 CST From: WEY56369@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU Subject: Picture Gallery --- Sandra To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi: I've tried to retrieve those Sandra's pictures under the "Picture Gallery" by Mosaic but unable to do so. I keep go getting messages like"path not found" or "error ...path." Does anyone have the same problem too ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 13:51:36 -0600 (CST) From: deicide@rci.ripco.com (Deicide) Subject: Picture Gallery --- Sandra To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Hi: > I've tried to retrieve those Sandra's pictures under the "Picture Gallery" > by Mosaic but unable to do so. I keep go getting messages like"path not found" > or "error ...path." Does anyone have the same problem too ? > Is that the WWW site at http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html? I used that this morning and it was working. -- ...TheEndComplete... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:22:33 -0500 (EST) From: Lestat de Lioncourt Subject: Pret a Porter soundtrack-no enigma To: ENIGMA Distribution List the soundtrack has a new deep forrest track on it and it is worth listening to.....there is also a good remix of "pretty" by the cranberries...sorry there is no enigma content -Cliff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:59:23 -0700 (MST) From: "C. Frederick Palmer" Subject: question about principles of lust To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I finally got my hands on a copy of the principles of lust, but its a japanese cd single. Is the track listing the same as the european version? principles of lust 1. radio edit 2. everlasting lust mix 3. omen mix sadness 4. meditation same thing with a japanese version of mea culpa mea culpa (not in the correct order) 1. fading shades 2. orthodox 3. LP sadness 4. violent u.s. FREDRICK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 12:39:36 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: question about principles of lust To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy Frederick. > I finally got my hands on a copy of the principles of lust, but its a > japanese cd single. Is the track listing the same as the european version? I haven't got the discography with me so this is off the top of my head (you can easily get the discography at yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au): > principles of lust > 1. radio edit > 2. everlasting lust mix > 3. omen mix > sadness > 4. meditation Same as some Europe one except different mix of Sadness > mea culpa > (not in the correct order) > 1. fading shades > 2. orthodox > 3. LP > sadness > 4. violent u.s. Hmm, doesn't ring a bell at all, but may be close to the US release (I believe the LP mix was only released in the US). As I said, check the discography to be totally sure! On a related note, if anyone has a CD single of "Out from the Deep" please send me all its details to my private email - I am trying to establish exactly which countries it was released in. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au PS - Can the person in Sweden who sent me some cassette tapes recently please contact me. PPS - Can the person who sent me a correction to the Enigma FAQ (not the recent one about the wrong remix title) please contact me also. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 22:02:24 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Some news To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au There are no plans at the moment for a video album release of The CROSS Of Changes (similar to the one for MCMXC a.D.), so it seems unlikely that there will be a release at all. Sandra's next album is scheduled for April, but it could be delayed. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:35:15 +0800 (PST) From: claudio@x.co.uk Subject: Some news To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Sandra's next album is scheduled for April, but it could be delayed. Is it just a german/european release or will it be released in the UK also? claudio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 14:42:42 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Some news To: ENIGMA Distribution List > > Sandra's next album is scheduled for April, but it could be delayed. > > Is it just a german/european release or will it be released in the UK > also? I would believe it will be released in most European countries, including the UK. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:41:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Semon Subject: Songs of Distant Earth To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Mon, 23 Jan 1995, Alexander Dedios wrote: > where they can find MOs Songs of Distant Earth and Richard Souther's > Visions in the US. I couldn't find it anywhere in my local record stores > (Tower and Newbury Comics). Try telnet'ing to The CD Connection (telnet cdconnection.com) I just went there and they have MO's SoDE for around $25.19. Hope this helps Al //////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Life is a three letter word! AD&CS Alan Semon | | Xicis Corp. | | asemon@esu.edu | //////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 21:06:54 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Songs of Distant Earth... To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi everybody, I know this is a little off the Enigma topic but can someone tell me where they can find MOs Songs of Distant Earth and Richard Souther's Visions in the US. I couldn't find it anywhere in my local record stores (Tower and Newbury Comics). Thanks! -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:39:50 -0400 (AST) From: Al Subject: Songs Of Distant Earth review (fwd) To: ENIGMA Distribution List I would totally agree with the guy that sent in the review! It is one of the best CD's that I have ever bought in my entire life! If you thought TB2 was inspiring hold on to your socks for this one! Also just a little side point, I was at Heathrow airport and I saw a Virgin Jumbo Jet named 'Tubular Belle'! I thought it must be a reference to MO and TB being Virgins first release (I think that is correct?). I also recently bought 'Elements' and I think it is not that good but I put that down to it being a compilation which is obviously not MO's forte. ******************************************************************** * x93yqe@juliet.stftx.ca * Al Tepper * justice@m-net.arbornet.org * ******************************************************************** ********************** davelister@delphi.com *********************** ******************************************************************** ************************* (902)863-2978 **************************** ******************************************************************** ********* "Evil communications corrupt good manners." ************** ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 20:38:49 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Songs Of Distant Earth review (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is a resend, since yoyo choked on the middle part on the last posting. Here is a review of Mike Oldfield's latest album, The Songs Of Distant Earth, written by Elf (Hogne.B.Pettersen@hiMolde.no). Joar ====================================================================== Mike Oldfield - "The Songs of Distant Earth" Since I've been a Mike Oldfield fan for years, every album from him is a highlight in my life. And in the past 5 years (apart from the awful Heavens Open from 91) he has released only great albums. Many people say that Oldfield made the spark that started New Age music with Tubular Bells. And a lot of ambient/house muscicians (Orb for instance) has spoken highly of Oldfield when asked where their musical inspiration comes from. Oldfield has through the years mixed rock, classical, jazz, folk music and ethnic music just as he pleased. Combined with a great talent and maximum use of studio technology he has by many been considered to be a genius. He just simply explains that he wants to show the world that you can make music out of anything. Oldfield has always had a foot inside of the rock genre, though a lot of his albums are filled with atmospheric sounds and really beautifull moments with soaring feelings. But on his latest album he goes in a direction wich he has only hinted at before (for instance Island and Tubular Bells II). On this album he uses a lot of synth and sampled sounds, combined with his beautifull guitarwork. It seems like he has been listening a lot to chart toppers like Enigma, Deep Forest and such. But he only takes back the influences wich they have taken from him through the years. (Oldfield and Cretu has worked together in the past.) This, combined with his blending talent, creates a 50 minute long journey through a book by Arthur C. Clarke, "The Songs of Distant Earth." Clarke has written on the cover about the book, and there will also be a CD-ROM release of the album shortly. Here is a rewiev of the album, track by track although I think Oldfield wants the whole thing to be regarded as one composition. 1. In the beginning 01:24 The track opens slowly with a special sound rising. Soon a sample of Bill Anders quoting from The Book of Genesis aboard Apollo8, whilst orbiting the Moon in Chrismas 1968 is heard. In the background female choir samples build the track up beautifully, while some sequencer sounds are moving up and down in your speakers. 2. Let There Be Light 04:52 One of the best tracks on the album, and sets one of the main themes for the composition. In track 1 drums suddenly start with a slow beat and we enter track 2. A typical Oldfield guitar sets the main theme and 2 minutes out in the track we are presented to a woman singing very Loreena McKennit like. Big choir samples fills the background but stops when a child takes over the singing. The track slows down and the astronaut is heard again, saying: Let there be light. The guitar comes back again, and in the background we hear astrounaut samples sounding very much like the ones in Enigmas The Eyes of Truth. The track then slows down with the sound of an air attack warning, and a guitar and choir starts the theme wich we will hear in track 3. The drums disappear and the guitar stops and we are in track 3. 3. Supernova 03:29 Some very ambientsounding synths fills the sound picture, and an accoustic guitar keeps repeating the theme wich we heard at the end of track 2. Soon an Enigma like flute plays very pationately in the background. Soon more and more instruments come in, but they are all just repeating the theme over and over again. Then an explosion is heard and a sample of Oldfields voice is heard. It all builds up so nicely that the track does not get boring. Drums and explosion leads in to track 4. 4. Magellan 04:41 A ticking sound builds up a nice effect in the background, while a synth builds up the theme of the track. Then suddenly drums kick in and some great bagpipe samples repeats the track theme. The drums that build up the beat dissapear and a piano comes in, and some beautifull female vocals are heard in the background. Oldfields guitar comes on top of this and soon his vocal samples are back. When the samples dissapear the guitar is back again. 5. First Landing 01:16 Suddenly, without noticing it, you are in track 5. The guitar plays a few bars and then the ticking sound slows down, and a sample of something sounding like a interference on radio is introduced. They start at a high pitch (alomst hurts in the earphones) and then goes lower and lower. A new theme is introduced with something that sounds like screaming voices in a loop. The ticking comes and goes in waves in the background and soon the voice loop fades away together with the sound of an engine stopping. 6. Oceania 03:27 The track starts with drums building up the rythm just before the eninge sound dissapears. The theme from track 2 is repeated with the same guitar, but in the background we hear choir samples and a totally different rythm. A piano plays before the guitar takes over again. The guitar stops and we hear an accoustic guitar repeating the same note over and over again, sounding like a radar beeping. It goes with the rythm, and in the background we hear the sound of seagulls and ocean waves. A guitar starts playing and the rythm dissapears, except for the "radar." Soon all sounds fade away except for the "radar." It goes on for a while and then a synth comes in and takes us to the next track. 7. Only Time Will Tell 04:19 A rythm starts consisting of drums and glockenspiel. A sampled voice keeps repeating "only time will tell" and "only time." The "radar" is still heard and in the background we hear choir samples done in a way that I've never heard before. Then the track is filled with samples of voices. first a woman howling out something in the left speaker, and then a child answers her in the right speaker. The woman sounds very Enigma like and the child sounds very Deep Forest like. This goes on for a while, and new voices are added and some are removed. It sounds very atmospheric and beautiful. The track stops and a woman sings something and then the guitar in the next track takes over. 8. Prayer for the Earth 02:10 A syntsound goes in the background of this track adding a great atmosphere. A guitar plays and then a guy named Nils-Aslak Valkepaa comes in with a samii- chant. (Valkepaa is a norwegian samii who has worked with a lot of international people, and he also performed on the opening of the Olympic Wintergames in Lillehammer 94.) The sami-chant is the main theme from a norwegian film called Pathfinder (it earned an oscar nomination) and I think Oldfield has sampled the whole theme. Deep male choir samples and a new guitar makes this track in to a beautiful experience. (To those who don't know what sami-chants sounds like, just listen to Return to innocence with Enigma.) 9. Lament for Atlantis 02:44 When track 8 has almost faded away, this track starts. It starts with a piano playing the theme of track 4 in a very quiet and gentle way, with lots of different synthsounds in the background. A sampled voice comes in now and then and more and more sounds are added, including guitar and horns. All the time repeating the same theme. Then everything settles down, and a very varm and quiet synth sound keeps repeating the theme and then fades away. There is a break between track 9 and 10 but it is not even a second long, so I still consider them linked. (This is the place where LP and MC owners must turn to side B) 10. The Chamber 01:49 A choir starts this track. It is humming a very beautiful theme, and in the background samples of voices and other sounds can be heard. This goes on through the whole track. 11. Hibernaculum 03:32 A drum beat starts, the background instruments changes and the choir continues humming the same theme as in 10. A Deep Forest sounding sample cries out and a gregorian choir starts chanting with the same theme as melody. (This track is the most Enigma sounding track of all, and it also features a lot of Deep Forest sounding samples so it is not hard to understand that this is the first single from the album.) Now and then african chants can be heard in the background. The humming comes back and then the gregorian chanting starts again. This is going on for a while. The drums stop and the choir enters an echo loop. 12. Tubular World 03:23 A woman cries out (very machinlike): Enter! Then some bell-like samples starts a theme wich is very similar to (yep, you guessed it) Tubular Bells but it also contains the theme of the screaming vioces in track 5. . A guitar joins in, and a bass starts building up a rythm. Then the drums start and different voice samples are "singing" on top of it. This is one of my favourite tracks on the album, it is very catchy and just great. More drums join in and the tracks gets even better, and more voice samples are put in. After a while all instruments except the drums and some background noices dissapear. The drums fade and a small explosion like sound can be heard. 13. The Shining Ones 02:59 A looped synthesizer sound starts just after the explosion. It sounds so simple that you could almost think it was taken from a Commodore 64. It then goes to the background and a bassline is introduced. A flute starts playing the main theme of this track, and a guitar comes in as well. The track goes quiet and all that can be heard is the synth-loop. A tambla drum is introduced and the track continues like it was before the little break. The track goes quiet once more and the loop leads us into the next track. 14. Crystal Clear 05:42 A drumbeat starts and a ticking can be heard in the background. An accoustic guitar plays in the left speaker, and is "answered" by an electric guitar. A male voice says Crystal Clear and talks every now and then throughout the track. Some other voice samples can be heard and the guitars continues their "conversation." More instruments are added and a cool synthsound replaces the guitar. But it is not playing the same theme as the guitars. The guitars reappear and the voice starts a (very slow) countdown from 10 to 0. He then says Now, and a space ship takes off. A drumbeat that is very similar to the one used in Return to Innocence with Enigma starts and a beautifull guitar solo is heard. This goes on for a while then the guitar solo stops and the drums continue with some other guitars on top until the sound that started the album appears. The drums contiune and a sample of bubbles in deep water appears. The drums then stop and we are in track 15. 15. The Sunken Forest 02:39 A sample of a female choir can be heard and the 64-sounding synth loop comes back, but slightly different this time. And synthesizer starts with the theme of the song, and wind-chimes can be heard in the background. A male choir also joins in and this goes on for a while. Then a lot of machine samples come in and when they stop the next track starts. 16. Ascension 05:48 A drumbeat starts and a choir starts singing the theme of track 3. Samples of astronauts speaking can be heard, and a guitar also plays. More choir comes in and this goes on until the guitar repeats the theme of track 2. The coir goes away, and some other synthsounds appear. Then the theme from track 3 comes back with choir for a while and then the theme from track 2 starts again with the same guitar. The song then changes theme and a rock guitar starts playing a new theme together with the guitar used previous in the track. Then a lot of guitar joins together with orchestral drums for a very intense and a bit too long climax. When this stops, the drums have changed (but still playing the same rythm) and the theme from track 7 reappears with the same voice samples and the guitar "radar" wich was used in that track. The voice that says Enter comes back and the track change back to the theme from track 3 with the sample from Oldfields voice. The track ends with several explosions wich after a while fades. 17. A New Beginning 01:33 Before the explosions dissapear this track starts. It consists only of african chants, and is performed by the choir Vahine Taihara. Sounds pretty cool and it sounds like a big choir. Some of the african samples that are heard throughout the album is taken from this track. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All in all this is a very good album. It is beautifull and almost hypnotizing at times, but if you are not in the mood for this kind of music it can be boring. If you are a fan of Enigma, Enya, Deep Forest, Jean-Mihcel Jarre and of course Oldfield, this album is highly recommended. Although I mention Deep Forest a lot through the review, it doesn't mean that he has sampled from Deep Forest. It is only very similar to their ideas. Personally I regard this as one complete composition although it is divided in to tracks. (But so is Laser Disc films (: ) Rating: 5 out of 6 //--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\ | <<--* 3-DIMENSIONAL STEREOGRAPHIC SIGNATURE *-->> | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF Hogne Pettersen Hogne Pettersen Hogne Pettersen Hogne Pettersen Hogne Petterse Adress: * Adress: * *Adress:* * Adress: * Adress: * * *ollivn * *Sollivn * * Sollivn * * Sollivn* * Solliv* * * * 45 * * 45 * * 45 * * 45 * * 45 * * * 6400 * 6400 * 6400 * 6400 * 6400 * MOLDE MOLDE MOLDE MOLDE MOLDE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | (c) 1994 The Elf Designs | \\--------------------------------------------------------------------------// "Dreamer easy in the chair that really fits you" -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 12:30:21 +0800 (PST) From: claudio@x.co.uk Subject: Teen Spirit To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > BYW, > though it is not quite Enigma-esque, has anone heard of Flying Pickets, with their cover of Smells > Like Teen Spirit? It is the best version of SLTS that I have heard beside th' original. It even > tops Tori's! Have you heard the Gregorian Chant version of it yet? It's on a parody CDsingle called "Chantmania" by "The Benzedrine Monks". The single is basically just pure(?) chant but singing pop songs rather than actual hymns. If you like real chant and also have a sense of humour you may want to check it out. Tracks are "Theme from The Monk(ee)s", "Losing My Religion", "Smells Like Teen Spirit", "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" and "The Monks Vow Of Silence". :-) enjoy! claudio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 15:44:07 +0100 From: Hartmut Keller Subject: Tomorrow: Enigma on TV in Germany To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, the following information might be interesting for the Enigma fans in Europe: Tomorrow, Saturday, 01/14/95, 12:30: the german TV channel ARD shows half an hour Enigma. ARD can be received in most parts of Europe via the ASTRA Satellite, 11.494 GHz, horizontal polarisation, sound subcarriers 7.02/7.20 Mhz. Here's the description given in my TV magazine (TV-Spielfilm): "Ein Musikphaenomen rund um die Welt" hat die ARD in Michael Cretus Projekt "Enigma" ausgemacht. Und wirklich: Der gebuertige Rumaene stuermt seit 1990 mit einer bis dahin nie gehoerten Melange aus klassischen Chorgesaengen, Ethnoklaengen und Popsounds die Charts. Weltweit verkaufte er mehr als zwoelf Millionen Platten und wurde in 25 Laendern mit Gold und Platin ausgezeichnet. I'll try a translation. It's rather bad, but my German/English dictionary on WWW just went down today. :-( "A music phenomenon around the world" was discovered by the ARD in Michael Cretu's project "Enigma". Indeed: born in romania, he attacs the charts with a not yet heard mixture of classical choir chants, ethno sounds and pop sounds. He sold more than twelve million albums worldwide and went gold and platinum in 25 countries. The broadcasting is in stereo. So long, Hartmut -- \\''''// (0 0) @---------------oOO---------(_)-------------------------------* | Hartmut Keller, Karpatenstr. 34, 71069 Sindelfingen | | keller@hermes.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de | @----------------------------------------oOO------------------* |__|__| || || ooO Ooo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:19:00 GMT From: dolphin@ocean.iaf.nl (Arjan Moraal) Subject: Welcome to list 'enigma' To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, I am new to this mailing list, so let me tell who I am. * Name: Arjan Moraal * Age: 20 (22 october 1974) * What is in your Enigma collection: At this time only 'MCMXC a.D.' but I'm buying The cross of changes very soon. I also have Mirrors from Sandra. * Where you first heard Enigma, and how much of a fan you are The first time I heard from Enigma was 'Sadeness' in 1990. I really liked it and bought the CD immediately. I am not really a fan, but I like the music very much. * Other artists you like I like really a lot of artists. I think The Nits are pretty good, but I don't think you know them. It's a dutch band. * What course or job you're doing (if any) I study 'Bedrijfs-Informatica'. I find it difficult to explain it, but it has something to do with computers in organizations. * Any other interesting information you wish to share I am new on internet. I have a lot of experience with Fidonet, but this is my second day on internet, so I hope everything goes all right. Greetings, dolphin. ... A sharp tongue and a dull mind are usually found in the same head! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, | Email: dolphin@ocean.iaf.nl Arjan Moraal | Homepage: http://dds.dds.nl/~dolphin Groningen, Holland | Member of Paninaro Development ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 18:56:41 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Priven Subject: Welcome to list 'enigma' To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi there! As I understand, it is customary here for new members to introduce themselves, so here I go. My name is Mike Priven. I'm 19+. The reason I decided to be on this mailing list is clear - I like Enigma's music. The first time I actually heard something from their music was a very long time ago, probably three or four years - after their MCMXC a.D. debut. My Enigma collection includes the above album plus The Cross of Changes. I'm not really sure if those are the only albums produced by Enigma. Where is Enigma now, in 1995? As far as my introduction is concerned, I am now a second-year student at Polytechnic University in New York City. The path I'm trying to follow is that of becoming an electrical engineer, though I'm also thinking about computer programming (which is a marvelous thing). I'm really glad to be on this list - I hope to learn here some interesting things about Enigma's background, music, new releases (when???), and other good stuff. Talk to you all later. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:31:22 -0600 (CST) From: deicide@rci.ripco.com (Deicide) Subject: Welcome to list 'enigma' To: listserv@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Listserv v3.0.3) > * Name Deicide > * Age 18 > * What is in your Enigma collection All the US releases. > * Where you first heard Enigma, and how much of a fan you are I heard it on some radio station, and as soon as I found out Cretu was behind it I knew it was something for me. > * Other artists you like Sandra of course. > * Any other interesting information you wish to share I'm actually an alien... and now that we're on the subject, I've been hearing these voices, 'you look like a pig, walking in the street, i can't believe you live in this house, you repulse me, you make me wanna throw up, you're just like your father, a bum, a pig-bum...' ummm oh it's just my Life of Agony tape. ...TheEndComplete... ------------------------------ End of Enigma Digest ******************************