Enigma Digest October 1995 Volume 2 : Issue 10 "A" "Chant" -type music (9 msgs) "Eye of truth" in the movie "Scarlete Letter"? (2 msgs) "Flowers Become Screens" (2 msgs) "Last Temptation of Christ" *A Glance of 'Kitaro'* 2nd, too (12 msgs) Age of loneliness in a advert Another Single (2 msgs) Artist Question (4 msgs) Availability/seventh seal (6 msgs) Bass Lines Being new info... (2 msgs) Bens request (please?) Brief Guide to IRC (bit long) Carly's Song (5 msgs) Chat on IRC (5 msgs) Congrats! Correction to http://strangedays.com (2 msgs) Cross of Changes Limited Ed. Cross Of Changes Poster Curious... (7 msgs) Dao Dezi.... (2 msgs) Data Alpha Mambo Deep Forest (3 msgs) Deep Forest and Strange Days Deep Forest performance deep forest soundtrack. Deep Forest soundtrack? (4 msgs) Deep Forest WWW Homepage (2 msgs) Delerium Delerium: Flowers Become Screens (2 msgs) differences in Enigma laserdiscs Dream Everlasting Dream Enigmites DURAN DURAN... (2 msgs) Enigma (5 msgs) ENIGMA!!! (3 msgs) Enigma (of course) Enigma, Deep Forest... Enigma, Kevin the fowl mouth, APOTHOS, and love......! Enigma-digest V1 #144 (2 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #151 (3 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #152 (2 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #153 (2 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #154 (3 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #160 (3 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #160i Enigma-digest V1 #174 Enigma-digest V1 #180 Enigma-digest V1 #184 (2 msgs) Enigma AOL 2.6 Sound File Enigma in MDR night-program Enya and more... (18 msgs) Expressions... fading shades release info Fav ENigma Moment Favorite Enigma Moment (2 msgs) Favorite Enigma Moment... (2 msgs) Flowers Become Screens Maxi-CD Gavin's role (2 msgs) Got a question for yall... (3 msgs) Gregorian (3 msgs) Gregorian Question (5 msgs) Gregorian style Hello Hello... Hello everyone Homework (2 msgs) Howdy guys!! How to Put This Delicately... Hubert KaH (ctd) Hubert Kah, and a couple others... Hubert KaH / Abusive messages Humpe & Brucken? (2 msgs) Hungarian music I'm Back I'm sorta new (2 msgs) I could of sworn I heard ENIGMA... Idea on IRC Inscription (2 msgs) Introduction (4 msgs) Introduction! Introduction and request IRC (3 msgs) IRC again IRC Bot Question (2 msgs) IRC Channel (9 msgs) IRC chat tonight! Be there! IRC sessions IRC times (2 msgs) Life Style Condoms & Deep Forest :) Limited Edition Album (13 msgs) LIMITED EDTION CD'S List/Web Survey Results (long) Locations... (3 msgs) Making Love (16 msgs) Making Love to MCMXC a.d. Marta's lyrics MCMXC Limited (2 msgs) me (2 msgs) Mea Culpa Meanings... Me New Member :) (2 msgs) monks (3 msgs) More bass line info.... (2 msgs) Music: Musical elements of Enigma (2 msgs) My thoughts on MCMXC a.d. Newcomer New Member New member information (4 msgs) New member introduction new one new subsriber! info..... New US MCMXCaD laser disc? NON ENIGMA: Sarah Brightman No Subject Out from the Deep place to chat possible help Quick "Strange Days" review (6 msgs) Re: Favorite Enigma Moment regarding sarcasm... Reminders (2 msgs) Reply to I'm sorta new Reply to Laurel's letter Reply to Re: Welcome to enigma Requested Info!(Please?) return to innocence <===> freedom cry REVIEW: Dao Dezi "World Mix Album" Sarah Brightman (4 msgs) Sarah Brightman discography Scarlet Letter (7 msgs) Scarlet letter music Self Introduction Spotted (5 msgs) Stone Edge Strange Days (2 msgs) Strange Days track-listing Strange Days Web page (2 msgs) The new ENIGMA album!!!!! (5 msgs) Theory on Return to Innocence (2 msgs) The Wonderful EML!!!! This is me... to Alexander's remark (2 msgs) to Karen but thought I'd put it through the list To Lawrence, about Deep Forest Un-needed Anger and Frustation (fwd) Un-needed Anger and Frustration Vangelis "Voices" Promotional Info. Various Enigma tidbits Welcome to enigma Welcome to enigma-digest What does this mean (5 msgs) What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? (4 msgs) What it means.... Where to get .... (2 msgs) Why French Why French? (3 msgs) Windows WTB Enigma record (3 msgs) your mail (10 msgs) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 23:49:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Francisco Subject: "A" To: enigma list Hello list. Sometime I will be able to re-sub. Meanwhile, I saw the promo for the film, The Scarlet Letter, and most of the music background was the first track from "Cross of Changes." I have a feeling that the soundtrack is not more from that CD, but it'd be nice. I may be able to find out soon. If I do, I'll let you all know. enjoy the music Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:55:39 -0700 (MST) From: CWERTZ@cc.weber.edu Subject: "Chant" -type music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, all. I'm always looking to find and acquire new music that is similar to Enigma or Deep Forest ("Chant" music, if you will). Since payday is coming up, I'd thought I'd pose a question to the friendly folks on the list: What else is out there that I might not have heard of? Here's a list of what I've got: Enigma: Everything they've released in the U.S. Deep Forest: "Deep Forest", "World Mix", and "Boheme" Delerium: "Semantic Spaces" Dao Dezi: "World Mix Album" and "Ti Eliz Iza" CD5 B-Tribe: "Fiesta Fatal!" Enchanted: "Enchanted" Stone Edge: "Stone Edge" Sacred Spirit Now, here's what I've got that fall under the "Almost, but not quite" category; that is, many people describe these bands as "Enigma" -like, but I disagree: Moodswings: "Moodfood" Intermix/Will: "Word, Flesh, Stone" Gregorian Dead Can Dance: "A Passage in Time", "Toward the Within" The main reason that I don't consider Dead Can Dance as an Enigma -type group is the fact that I'm kind of a sucker for an electronic dance beat and ambient sounds, and IMO, DCD just doesn't cut it. As for the others, well... they're just kind of lame (IMO, of course). I was wondering if anyone could describe or give me their opinions of some of these groups: Vangelis' "Zoolook" Michael Oldfield's "Songs of Distant Earth" (I read the review, but I would like to hear some opinions...) A group called Aedimus (I'm not sure if I spelled it right) A group called Oracle. If anyone would care to share their opinions about any of those groups, or if you want my further opinions on anything that I have, please feel free to email me at cwertz@cc.weber.edu Thanx in advance... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:14:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Now, here's what I've got that fall under the "Almost, but not quite" category; > that is, many people describe these bands as "Enigma" -like, but I disagree: > > Moodswings: "Moodfood" > Intermix/Will: "Word, Flesh, Stone" > Gregorian > Dead Can Dance: "A Passage in Time", "Toward the Within" I can understand some of the others but Gregorian's Sadisfaction (not the Gregorian Chants) is very similar to Enigma IMO. In fact Peterson (one of the Enigma producers/writers) wrote the music for this album. I only really like 3 of the songs but you can't say that the track So Sad isn't enigma-like. Heck, I'd consider that song as a derivative of Sadeness. My 2-cents. -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:57:59 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >>I can understand some of the others but Gregorian's Sadisfaction (not the >>Gregorian Chants) is very similar to Enigma IMO. In fact Peterson (one of >>the Enigma producers/writers) wrote the music for this album. I only really >>like 3 of the songs but you can't say that the track So Sad isn't >>enigma-like. Heck, I'd consider that song as a derivative of Sadeness. >> >>My 2-cents. >>-Alex There it is! That wonderful CD "Sadisfaction" by Gregorian. I LOVE this CD. I am desperately looking for this CD. I know I have mentiond this before; however, I am still unable to locate it. NOTICE TO ALL: Please help me in my search for this CD. If you find the CD please buy it for me. I'll pay whatever to get it...well, not actually "whatever" but you know what I mean. My CD was stolen and I need another one. It was produced by Metronome Music GMBH. The songs include: Watcha Gonna Do Once In A Lifetime (Sara Brightman also has this on her "Dive" CD) So Sad Forever The Quiet Self Reflect Monastry Gonna Make You Mine You Take My Breath Away I Love You Where Did You Go? The Mission Depressions Please look for this CD. It is wonderful and very similar to the style of Enigma. Very provoking for the emotional self to surface. Thanks for your help in my search! Smiles to all! :-0 Peace and love to you! JOHN INGRAM - MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA USA http://www.best.com/~bagelboy A hug can overcome just about any http://www.betterbagel.com/bbi.html difference two people may have. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 21:12:57 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Charles! You wrote: > what I've got: [deleted] A nice collection! Would you be willing to tell us what the following are like? (or better still do a review!) > Dao Dezi: "World Mix Album" and "Ti Eliz Iza" CD5 > Enchanted: "Enchanted" > Stone Edge: "Stone Edge" > I was wondering if anyone could describe or give me their opinions of some of > these groups: > > Vangelis' "Zoolook" It's actually Jean Michel Jarre's "Zoolook". The first track "Ethnicolor" is brilliant - an electronic masterpiece! "Zoolooklogie" is also incredibly good, but unfortunately the rest of the album is nowhere near as good. So if you're willing to buy an album for 15 minutes of brilliant music, it's worth it! > Michael Oldfield's "Songs of Distant Earth" (I read the review, but I would > like to hear some opinions...) I've only heard part of it, but I think it's fair to say that if you like his "style" of music then you'll like it (notably if you like his "Tubular Bells II"-sounding music). Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:04:33 +0100 (BST) From: "The Silver-Flag Boy" Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Hi, all. I'm always looking to find and acquire new music that > is similar to Enigma or Deep Forest ("Chant" music, if you will). Since payday > Michael Oldfield's "Songs of Distant Earth" (I read the review, but I would > like to hear some opinions...) Not 'chant', but hypnotic, more mellow than Enigma. Recognizably from Mike Oldfield :) [I'm an expert in that field *grin*] Alex -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CGCE, 324 Holly Cross, Keele, Staffordshire, ST5 5JB u3a97@cc.keele.ac.uk "I didn't wanna be a part of the Great Debate or Moonshine" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 09:25:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: "Chant" -type music To: The Silver-Flag Boy On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, The Silver-Flag Boy wrote: > > > > Hi, all. I'm always looking to find and acquire new music that > > is similar to Enigma or Deep Forest ("Chant" music, if you will). Since payday > > Michael Oldfield's "Songs of Distant Earth" (I read the review, but I would > > like to hear some opinions...) > Not 'chant', but hypnotic, more mellow than Enigma. Recognizably from Mike > Oldfield :) [I'm an expert in that field *grin*] > > Alex > > > -- I agree with you. Oldfield "Songs of distant Earth" is similar to Enigma I. One of my favorite CD suite is: - Enigma I - Oldfield (S.O.D.E.) - Dead Can Dance ( their latest... do not remember the name now ) - Enigma II With a good book, that's a *great* evening. Better than watching T.V. ;-) _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:45:42 -0700 From: imicro@oberon.ark.com (Cornelia von Schellwitz) Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi to all! Since the topic has turned to Enigma like music, I thought I would recommend a CD to you that falls into that category. I am really surprised that no one has mentioned this CD before. It is called: Beautiful World - "In existence". I think "Beautiful World" is the name of the group or project and "In existence" the name of the CD (One of the songs is also called "In existence"). This CD is mentioned on the Deep Forest FAQ as similar in style and feel to Deep Forest. This CD contains songs sung in French, English and Swahili (4 tracks), plus some purely instrumental tracks. The tracks sung in Swahili definitely have a Deep Forest (first album) feel to them, although there is actual singing instead of chanting. My favourite of the Swahili tracks is "Love song". It has a slow dance rythm and is incredibly relaxing. The song "Magicien du Bonheur", however, really reminds me of Enigma. So do the instrumental pieces "The Silk Road" and "The final emotion". The track "Spoken Word" reminds me of Enya. If any of you already have this CD, let's here your comments. If not check it out, specially if you are also a Deep Forest fan. I would also appreciate any information on the producer Phil Sawyer of this album. Thanks to those of you who recommended Stone Edge. I really like this CD, particularly the songs "Zo Laret (It is said)", "Ultra Breiz" and "Stone transe". Bye for now, Cornelia von Schellwitz imicro@oberon.ark.com imicro@oberon.ark.com Island Microsystems Dennis Barg Phone (604)286-0624 Fax (604)286-0102 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 19:54:23 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Has anyone here ever heard of "Vision: The Music of Hildegard Von Bingen?" David Souther wrote background music to melodies written by Hildegard, a medeival abbess, regarded as a saint by some. Emily Van Evera and Sister Germaine Fritz (OSB) sing the vocals. The music is otherwordly, the vocals are ethereal and the whole thing is like a travel to another place! Check it out! (Look under the "Various Artists" sections in the New Age category at stores). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:51:51 -0400 From: Gnostic7@aol.com Subject: "Chant" -type music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au the orginal music of Hildegard is wonderful. Try the CD called "A Feather on the Breath of God" by the Gothic Voices or the CD called "Canticles of Ecstasy" by the group Sequentia. Either CD can be found in the classical sections of record stores. usually filed under Hildegard or Early Music. ENJOY EM! Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 14:05:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Fung Subject: "Eye of truth" in the movie "Scarlete Letter"? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Since it's the weekend time, I have more time to stay in front of the TV. I saw the commerial of the up coming movie "Scarlete Letter" by Demi Moore. The commmerial is using the "Eye of truth" as the background music, I am wondering that they are using this song as one of the soundtracks. Any people out there know more about this? Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:28:42 -0400 From: HokeyFX@aol.com Subject: "Eye of truth" in the movie "Scarlete Letter"? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au < Since it's the weekend time, I have more time to stay in front of the TV. I saw the commerial of the up coming movie "Scarlete Letter" by Demi Moore. The commmerial is using the "Eye of truth" as the background music, I am wondering that they are using this song as one of the soundtracks. Any people out there know more about this? >> Probably not, Jeremy. Hollywood often uses recognizable music for film trailers... so that the audience will, in theory, immediately identify with the new film. I've seen so many trailers that have used this scheme, I've lost count. ;) But maybe we'll get lucky THIS time, eh? -Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 02:09:39 GMT From: larsg@oz.net (Lars Giusti) Subject: "Flowers Become Screens" To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au [quadrig@ibm.net--------SKESSLER@aol.com] Thanks to the both of you for the CD/Maxi single track listing. I am puzzled though. You did not tell us if "Flowers Become Screens" was an Enigma or a Sandra Cretu recording??? What I am getting at is that I have tried to find this CD single US/European version in stores and have had no luck. If it is Enigma, I would like to buy it. I live in Seattle/Washington/USA and would like some direction. Could anyone give me some directions on this? Feel free to e-mail me directly. Best regards, Lars ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:00:08 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: "Flowers Become Screens" To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Thanks to the both of you for the CD/Maxi single track listing. I am > puzzled though. You did not tell us if "Flowers Become Screens" was an > Enigma or a Sandra Cretu recording??? What I am getting at is that I have > tried to find this CD single US/European version in stores and have had no > luck. If it is Enigma, I would like to buy it. I live in > Seattle/Washington/USA and would like some direction. Could anyone give me > some directions on this? Feel free to e-mail me directly. "Flowers Become Screens" has nothing to do with Michael Cretu, Sandra, or Enigma. The single comes from a band called Delerium, and it comes from the album "Semantic Spaces" - an album I cannot recommend highly enough (we're talking as good as if not better than the Enigma CDs!!!). As to the single, the track listing you gave is different to the original release. The original release had a 12" mix of Incantation instead of a 7" edit. Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:25:30 -0400 From: TGSABruce@aol.com Subject: "Last Temptation of Christ" To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Lamar, As far as I know it is still in print and should be readily available, if you have difficulty locating a copy e-mail me directly and I can sell you one. BTW there is also a disc called Passion Sources withis a compilllation of the source music Gabriel use to create Passion. It's more ethnic but I enjoy it - it's a good intro to world music if you haven't had a lot of exposure to it. Bruce Fischer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 08:17:09 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: *A Glance of 'Kitaro'* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Ya Everyone, Yes, it's Friday. Such a happy, happy day. Smile!!!! I have had many replys from Enigmites on the subject of 'Kitaro'. Many of you do not know who he is, but are really interested in finding out about his music. So I thought it would be nice to give everyone a little glance of his music. This is the words to my very favorite song of Kitaro's. It is on the 'Dream Kitaro' album, which came out in 1992. It is a very passionate song and this is why I feel it meets the standards of "Enigma" music. I hope everyone enjoy's this beautiful piece of music as much as I!!!!! It is a very special song. Smile!!!!!! --------------------------------* Lady of Dreams *------------------------------ Written by, Kitaro Save me a place in the heart of your hearts. When you think of love. Never forsake me. Wanting and dreaming you. Each time I think of you. Lying naked beside me. Only a Lady of Dreams. She will bring magic. To your heartstrings. Only a Lady of Dreams. Come alive-you are all That I Desire!! Something tells me: This is love that surrounds. Only a fool, without wisdom can see. Blind as I am In your eyes My Lady of Dreams. Save me, Same me A place in your heart. Tears escape from me. When we're apart. Please dream of me now. My Lady of Dreams. My thought and wishes Are all that surrounds. Mysteries hold you. Then fly you away. You know you are my life. My Lady of Dreams. Save me a place. In the heart of your heart. When you think of love. Never forsake me. Wanting and dreaming you. Each time I think of you. Lying so naked beside me. Only a Lady of Dreams. Could there be magic. To sing to your heartstrings? Only a Lady of Dream. Come alive-you are all That I Desire.......... With Love, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA *angelmac* (P.S. Don't forget about the Kitaro concert on November 12th at the Phoenix Symphony Hall!!!!) - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 00:00:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Francisco Subject: 2nd, too To: enigma list Opps, The second track is most of the background for the trailer for Scarlet Letter, not just the first, as I stated earlier. Sorry. continue to enjoy the music. Don ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 10:56:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Robinson (nc)" Subject: To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Enigma's music is exceptional, but my question concerns their lyrics. In "Return to Innocence," Enigma says, "Don't be afraid to be weak/ Don't be too proud to be strong." The structure of this couplet puts the two lines in parallel. This means that the second line is "Don't be proud that you are strong." Since the rest of the song deals with emotional issues, that is it does not refer to physical strength, then I am left thinking that Enigma is implying that one should not be proud if they are emotionally strong, i.e., able to deal with reality. Are they implying that we are subject to the fates and that we need to take what is given, and not to take it so seriously, after all during the next turning, things will change. Christopher Robinson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:52:48 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: To: (null) sion of "I Love You...I'll Kill You?" Where can I get this CD!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:38:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Corey Daniel Leamon Subject: To: Enigma mailing list I thought I would respond quickly to your message about looking for other groups like Enigma. Some of my favorites are Enya (Enya, Watermark, Shepherd Moons, all excellent), Kitaro (Dream, Heaven and Earth Soundtrack), Tangerine Dream (The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, this is their best hits album, pretty good, but less chanty and more guitar), Clannad (Banba, Anam, others, this is Enya's sister), and I'm sure people know about the Cranberries (whether or not they agree that they are Enigma-like), but on their first album, they have some great songs that remind me of Enigma (I Still Do, Dreams) and some other awesome songs (Linger, I Will Always...), besides, her voice is very enchanting like Enigma is. And finally, Peter Gabriels Passion (The soundtrack to The Last Temptation of Christ), is excellent, it reminds me of The Cross of Changes. Oh well, I guess that's all, hope that helps and happy hunting! Corey/Draven ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:59:47 -0400 From: HokeyFX@aol.com Subject: To: (null) How does on get his hands on the "Last Temptation of Christ" soundtrack - I still haven't even seen the movie!! Peter Gabriel sounds like Enigma - I gotta here it...<< I'm not Corey, but I do know the answer to your question. The soundtrack for "The Last Temptation of Christ" is not self-titled as a movie soundtrack CD. You'll find it with other Peter Gabriel CD's... title: PASSION (from Geffen records/1989) Hope this info helps! btw, this CD is worth a listen. It's not as electronic and quantized as Enigma, but it does blend a wonderful mixture of African percussion, traditional instruments, vocal textures, Ravi Shankar's awesome eastern chanting, and of course Peter Gabriel's original synth work!! This is a powerful piece from beginning to end. -Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:43:45 From: PTellman@gnn.com (Steven Tellman) Subject: To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Does anyone know who the lady is in the Sadness vid. and the Mea Culpa(Orthodox version) vid? Steve T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 09:24:34 +0000 From: Danni Rikkoert Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au name: David Rikkoert age: 19 In my collection are: 1. MCMXC. ad Limited edition 2. The CROSS of Changes (i really want the Special Limited Edition, but I can't seem to find it) The first thing i heard about Enigma was Sadeness, on Mtv Such a fan that i listen to MCMXC. ad about three times a day, during my work-out, when i go to sleep... Other artists i like: Michael Jackson (yes i really like him), Janet Jackson Michael Nyman (The Piano, i can play it a little by the way) Philip Glass (Mishima) I'm a student, i study applied physics at the TUDelft in The Netherlands In The Time Of Angels. extract no.1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:58:32 +0100 From: Phoenix Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Samples in Cross of Changes If you look at the last page of the booklet in Cross Of Changes you can see that samples are taken from : - Anne Dudley & Jaz Coleman : "Songs From The Victorious City" 1990 - China Records - 847 098-2 - APL : "The Calling" Beyond Records - Mind Over Rhythm : "The Crossing" Rumble Records I listen the first one (Dudley & Coleman) and when I heard the 5th song I thought it was a new one from Enigma (with a new music-style) as you can heard some samples used in Enigma's album. This album is pretty good if you like arabian-like music (instruments, ...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:56:26 +0100 From: Phoenix Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au New member self introduction : ---------------------------- Name : LAIZE Emmanuel & Nicolas (my brother) Age : 27 & 19 years old e-mail : phoenix@glm.univ-bpclermont.fr Enigma collection : - MCMXC a.D. (Album : 261 209 - PM 527) - Sadeness part I (5" Maxi-CD : 663 703) - Mea Culpa part II (5" Maxi-CD : 664 040) - The Cross Of Changes (Album : 7243 8 39236 2 5 - CDVIR 20 - PM 520) - The Cross Of Changes (Special Edition) (Album : 7243 8 40045 2 1 - CDVIRX 20 - PM 527) - Return To Innocence (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 92197 2 2 - DINSD 123 - PM 515) - The Eyes Of Truth (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 92368 2 8 - DINSD 126 - PM 515) - Age Of Loneliness (Promo Edition) (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 92525 2 1 - DINSD 135 - PM 515) - Age Of Loneliness (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 38440 2 9 - V25H) - Out From The Deep (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 92691 2 3 - DINSD 141 - PM 515) First time I heard Enigma : - 1990 with Sadeness Other artists we like : - Sandra - Mylene Farmer (French) - Eric Serra (French) - Jean-Michel Jarre (French) - Annie Lennox - Marillion - Yanni We have more than 600 CD of different artists, bands. Job : Emmanuel : Engineer + PhD, Informatic Teacher at Clermont-Ferrand University Nicolas : Math Student Other interests : - Girls & Animals - Strip Cartoons - Paints (M.C. Escher, Magritte, Vasarely, Dali) - Logic exercices and games - Sports I work only on PC (I hate MacIntosh) DX2/66 - 8Mo - CDROM - SoundBlaster with Windows 95 and as Background Wallpaper Dolphins or Enigma's Cross Of Changes booklet picture. It's 2:16 am - October 17th 1995 GOOD MORNING FROM FRANCE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:57:59 +0100 From: Phoenix Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Age Of Loneliness : Enigmatic Club MIx > Answer to mikw@cryo.demon.co.uk I have two Singles CD of Age Of Loneliness : - a normal one : (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 38440 2 9 - V25H) which includes 1. AOL Radio Edit 4'14" 2. AOL Enigmatic Club Mix (128 bpm) 6'23" 3. AOL Album Version 5'19" 4. AOL Jam And Spoon Remix (93 bpm) 6'28" 5. Principles Of Lust (Find Love) Omen Remix 5'52" - a preview edition (not for sale) : (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 92525 2 1 - DINSD 135 - PM 515) 1. AOL Radio Edit 4'14" 2. AOL Clubby Radio Edit 3'31" 3. AOL Enigmatic Club Mix (128 bpm) 6'23" 4. AOL Jam And Spoon Remix (93 bpm) 6'28" 5. AOL Album Version 5'19" I re-heard it, and I did not hear it was a bit noisy at the start. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:58:16 +0100 From: Phoenix Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Enigma Music-Like - Gregorian During the same period when Enigma produced MCMXC a.D. a band called GREGORIAN produced an album called "Sadisfaction". But I never heard any more of this band. It was really good and their main song "So Sad..." looks like Enigma's "Sadeness". One must notice that F. Gregorian (Frank Peterson) was the leader and the producer of this band. He wrote with Michael Cretu several songs of MCMXC a.D. (II.a, II.c (Principles Of Lust - Sadeness), V. (The Voice & The Snake)) The content of this album is : GREGORIAN - Sadisfaction - 1991 Metronome 849 379-2 1. Watcha Gonna Do 2. Once In A Lifetime 3. So Sad... (Radio Version) 4. Forever 5. The Quiet Self 6. Reflect 7. Monastry 8. Gonna Make You Mine 9. You Take My Breath Away 10. I Love You 11. Why Did You Go (I Feel Sad) 12. The Mission 13. Depressions I don't know if the song 2. Once In A Lifetime has any relation with the answer of Severino Ramos (Sara Brightman's "Once in a lifetime" from the album "Dive") to Baywatch Episode question. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 00:38:27 GMT From: Michael Subject: To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In your message dated Thursday 19, October 1995 you wrote : > Age Of Loneliness : Enigmatic Club MIx > > > Answer to mikw@cryo.demon.co.uk > > I have two Singles CD of Age Of Loneliness : > > - a normal one : (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 38440 2 9 - V25H) which includes > 1. AOL Radio Edit 4'14" > 2. AOL Enigmatic Club Mix (128 bpm) 6'23" > 3. AOL Album Version 5'19" > 4. AOL Jam And Spoon Remix (93 bpm) 6'28" > 5. Principles Of Lust (Find Love) Omen Remix 5'52" > > - a preview edition (not for sale) : (5" Maxi-CD : 7243 8 92525 2 1 - DINSD 135 - PM 515) > 1. AOL Radio Edit 4'14" > 2. AOL Clubby Radio Edit 3'31" > 3. AOL Enigmatic Club Mix (128 bpm) 6'23" > 4. AOL Jam And Spoon Remix (93 bpm) 6'28" > 5. AOL Album Version 5'19" > > I re-heard it, and I did not hear it was a bit noisy at the start. > Thanx for the info. The noisy bit at the start is on my picture disc, or my mates crap sony deck i taped it from as i don't have a record deck. Do you have any idea of the availability of the two CD Singles you have listed. Thanx, Mike. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reality Sux | | Imagination is the ultimate Reality | | | | Mike EMail Mike@cryo.demon.co.uk | | CryoNet Cooler than an penguin in a snowstorm | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:40:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Dixon Subject: To: Enigma My real name is Alex Dixon I am 21 years old I first heard E- at a party many years ago I am a sales rep for Apple computer Live in New Jersey I own any E- cd's, singles, etc. I can get my sweaty little hands on Any other information can be requested My e-mail is: digimess@crow.cybercomm.net Thanx ALEX P.S. Please excuse any typos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:03:28 GMT From: mike 2 Subject: Age of loneliness in a advert To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is my first post to the group since i joined, so don't flame me if this is not of interest to anyone. I was watching a british television channel (ITV) when an advert came on for schweppes 'schizan' and it has enigma's "Age of loneliness" playing in the background. Also can anyone tell me if you can get the enigmatic club mix on cd, as i have it on picture disc but it is a bit noisy at the start. Thanx, Mike -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:45:36 +0500 From: mmartin@nhma.noli.com Subject: Another Single To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au If iI am not misstaken Carly's Song is on the Silver Sound Trak. Or I'mm I wrong? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:55:55 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Another Single To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. You wrote: > If iI am not misstaken Carly's Song is on the Silver Sound Trak. Or I'mm > I wrong? Correct, and it also appeared as a CD single in Australia and cassette single in some other countries.... Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1995 07:07:22 -0600 From: "Sam Spink" Subject: Artist Question To: "Enigma" Texas A&M University Department of Food Services Agronomy Rd, College Station, TX 77843-1374 409-862-2014, Fax 845-2157 Artist Question 10/12/95 7:01 AM I am a little bit embarrassed to admit this, but I was recently flipping through the TV channels and saw an intro at the start of Baywatch. One of the female lifeguards (Susan Anton's daughter in the show, the girl who used to be in Charles in Charge) was practicing competition diving and there was some great music playing in the background. It sounded a lot like Enigma and I am very curious what it was. I realize I may be grasping at straws, but did anyone happen to see this episode or have any clue about Enigma-like music which was played on Baywatch? Sam Spink s-spink@tamu.edu Computer Systems Manager ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:37:16 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Artist Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I remember seeing this episode, but it was a *long* time ago. I do remember it being fairly cool though. > Artist Question 10/12/95 7:01 AM > >I am a little bit embarrassed to admit this, but I was recently flipping >through the TV channels and saw an intro at the start of Baywatch. One of the >female lifeguards (Susan Anton's daughter in the show, the girl who used to >be in Charles in Charge) was practicing competition diving and there was some >great music playing in the background. It sounded a lot like Enigma and I am >very curious what it was. I realize I may be grasping at straws, but did >anyone happen to see this episode or have any clue about Enigma-like music >which was played on Baywatch? > > Sam Spink > s-spink@tamu.edu > Computer Systems Manager |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:09:01 -0700 From: severo@pacificnet.net (severino ramos) Subject: Artist Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I think you're talking about the episode where they played Sara Brightman's "Once in a Lifetime" From the album "Dive". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:33:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Nguyen Subject: Artist Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, severino ramos wrote: > I think you're talking about the episode where they played Sara Brightman's > "Once in a Lifetime" From the album "Dive". > > wot episode are u talking about? a tv episode? movie? wot? -Paul Nguyen st8av@bayou.uh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 10:30:53 +0100 From: tba Subject: Availability/seventh seal To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I've only been on the mailing list a week now but enjoy reading the letters. I have been an Enigma fan for a few years now and am desperate to enlarge my collection. I have both albums in both forms and numerous singles but the UK is not very good for obtaining much merchandise. Could anyone please inform me of anywhere that I can get hold of pritty much anything. In this country or others. Addresses would be great. The othr thing is what is THE SEVENTH SEAL. It is mentioned in THE RIVERS OF BELIEF and a track on VAL HALEN's album BALANCE is called THE SEVENTH SEAL which is very good and Enigma like. (Well worth a listen). Please someone assist me in my quest. Thanks all STEVE. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 21:15:59 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Availability/seventh seal To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Quite simply, the line from "Rivers" is merely a quote from the Book of Revelation, detailing the plagues that will beset the world at the end of time. If you listen to "The Voice And The Snake" you can hear the seven plagues the seals and trumpets bring about. I don't know if the seventh seal as some other, perhaps coincidental reference. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 19:12:12 -0400 From: Page127@aol.com Subject: Availability/seventh seal To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Dear Steve: Not sure you can find the Seventh Seal....it refers to something from the Bible, in the book of Revelations; the Bible will have the original references (including the preceding seals, which were wax used to "seal" parchment scrolls so they could not be read until the seal was broken). The Enigma Home Page, and it's FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) does a good job with all the lyrics on the Engima work, as well as explaining the tie-ins or references, such as the one about the Seventh Seal. Happy Hunting. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:07:12 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Availability/seventh seal To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au YOu should rent the movie "The Seventh Sign"...it is kinda about that. Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 00:14:06 -0700 (PDT) From: ken clouser Subject: Availability/seventh seal To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Dear Steve: Not sure you can find the Seventh Seal....it refers to something from the Bible, in the book of Revelations; the Bible will have the original references (including the preceding seals, which were wax used to "seal" parchment scrolls so they could not be read until the seal was broken). The Enigma Home Page, and it's FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) does a good job with all the lyrics on the Engima work, as well as explaining the tie-ins or references, such as the one about the Seventh Seal. Happy Hunting. _____________________________________________________________________________ HEY!!! in the bible , it is said that a voice from heaven (OR SOMTIN LIKE THAT) Told them to seal up what the seventh seal hath said (and never reveal it) I guess it was about the end of the earth or somthin , but I was just informin ya that you cannot find what the 7th seal said , (because it's God's little secret..... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:44:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Francisco Subject: Availability/seventh seal To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au FWIW, and I am sorry to be soooo very late reading this, read Revelations Chapters 4 through 8. There the seven seals are discussed. The seal of the seven secrets is in Chp. 10. See if *you* can figure it out. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:26:56 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Bass Lines To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I listened closely to the Bass line in the song knocking on Forbidden doors, and noticed how much difference it makes, at one part the Bass lin dies out, and it sounds so empty! then it comes back and it fills the song. It so cool. Too bad there wasn't more bass line in the other songs. Well see, as you can see I can talk about other things other than IRC :) so I appologise for the number of posts I made, guess I got a little caught up with trying to get it as popular as #horses, so I'll slow down and post the occasional "reminder" hope to see you guys there in the future. BTW, Gavin, #enigma-fan does fit on my machine, doesn't it fit in yours?? and to the point you made about times, for now though, there aren't enough people coming in so the time just needs to be set for now. PS, any one want info on IRC? :) email me, there see, that's better isn't it :) |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "Marie had a little RAM- about a Meg or so" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:50:18 EST From: "Nicki Sutherland" Subject: Being new info... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi I just subscribed so here is the info you asked for... * Nicki Sutherland * 20 * I have the music of both Enigma albums, and all of Sandra's music, except the new Album (unfortunately all on tape and my dream is to get every CD she has ever made onday), and i have the Deap Forest. * Well my interest in Enigma was cos i heard them on the Radio and i have to add that the reason I stopped to listen is because I realised that it sounded like Sandra (the womans voice). Because i listened to so my Sandra, i think i was the only person in the beginning that knew that the same people were involved. my friends used to think I'm mad, aminly 'cos most of them didn't know who Sandra was. I started listening to Sandra when i was still a kid. I was influenced by my older brothers. She was the first popstar i started to listen to and liked. I often think that that is why alot of the people my age don't know who she is. Well, she has always been my favourite. To answer your question on how much of a fan I am? If you ask my friends, they will tell you. I have have always said that there is only one person that i will stand in line for and actually buy a ticket if they had a live show and that's Sandra. * I like a whide range of other artists, except country and anything remotly metal. HATE LOUD MUSIC!! * I'm actually from South Africa, came to the states on a tennis scholarship and I'm now studying at Columbus College in Columbus Georgia, USA (still on scholarship) Hope you haven't fallen asleep already.... See YA! Nicki //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- sutherland_nicki@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu ----------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** "If wishes were horses "Everybody has a hunger This begger would ride; No matter where they are; I'd have my cake and eat it Everybody clings to their own fear With a little on the side" Everybody hides some scar" -ME- -ME- ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 15:53:09 -0400 From: khorwitz@student.umass.edu Subject: Being new info... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Nicki- Welcome aboard... I just signed up for this thing about two days ago... I don't have as intense a collection that you do ( i just have the two Enigma tapes), but am a fan of Sandra (I still have to check out Deep Forest though...)... well... I'm gonna run out now... cya -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 22:47:56 PDT From: ken clouser Subject: Bens request (please?) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au if anyone can tape the MXC(Etc..) album by enigma , I will pay the shipping & handdling on the tape (but I don't have the money to pay you any money , after all half of you are from different countries & the currency exchange is heck to go through, anyway if you can tape it for me send me mail at the adreess below (: ben ------------------------------------- Name: ben clouser E-mail: kclouser@kclouser.bright.net (ken clouser) Date: 10/12/95 Time: 22:15:06 This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:16:04 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Brief Guide to IRC (bit long) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au A BRIEF GUIDE TO IRC ==================== What is IRC? ~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat. It is a system whereby people with DIRECT internet access can chat in real time with other like-minded people. ~~~~ If you connect to your provider using SLIP/PPP or similar you should be able to use IRC. Services like AOL do not provide you with a suitable connection for using IRC. If you are not certain whether you have direct internet access consult your service provider. I am unable to answer questions along the lines of 'I use to get email or usenet, can I use IRC?'. What software do I need? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To be able to connect to IRC, you must have suitable software that runs on your machine. This is the client software. There are different clients available for different types of machine. For the PC, the two most used are MIRC (currently version 3.7) and WSIRC (currently version 2.00). Both these clients can be obtained from ftp.coast.net WSIRC can be found at ftp://ftp.coast.net/simtel/win3/winsock/wsirc20.zip and MIRC can be found at ftp://ftp.coast.net/pub/irc/clients/windows/mirc37.zip For the Mac, the two most popular are Homer (currently version 0.94) and Ircle. Both these can be obtained from ftp.coast.net as well Homer can be found at ftp://ftp.coast.net/pub/irc/clients/homer/homer0.94.sit.hqx Ircle can be found at ftp://ftp.coast.net/pub/irc/clients/homer/Ircle.sit.hqx *note* Homer takes a new approach to IRC, it gives the user a much easier way of interacting (graphical) For other systems IRC clients can be found at ftp://ftp.coast.net/pub/irc/clients/ Please do not ask me how to install the software for your machine. Please read the documentation that is supplied with the client for installation instructions. Once you have got the client installed. It will need to be configured, again consult the documentation for the software. How do I connect to IRC? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Once the client software is installed and configured all you need to do is to connect to an IRC server. It is normal to use the server nearest to where you are. The address of server is usually input as part of the initial configuration of the software. Below are some addresses for IRC srevers, this is by no means an exhaustive list: serv.eng.abdn.ac.uk stork.doc.ic.ac.uk dismayl.demon.co.uk irc.ais.net irc.texas.net irc.digex.net irc.colorado.edu irc.escape.com cs-pub.bu.edu irc.virginia.edu shrug.dur.ac.uk irc.funet.fi Connect in the normal way to your service provider and then start your IRC client. If everything has been configures properly, you should then be able to connect to an IRC server. What do I do when I'm connected? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In this section I only intend to give a very brief introduction to IRC, there are a lot more commands than Iintend to cover here, a full explanation of the commands warrants an entire document all to itself. The first thing you should do is select a nickname, using the /nick command, e.g. /nick QuarterH, (note all IRC commands are prefixed with a /). This is the name that other users with refer to you by. You can change your nickname at anytime while you are connected to IRC. It is always worthwhile taking a look at what channels (more on channels later) are active by issuing the /list command. You can then join any that look interesting using the join command (/join #channel, all channel names begin with #). You will usually find people for EQUINE-L and rec.equestrian on channel #horses. Once joined to a channel, just join in the fun. You send general message to the channel by typing the message and pressing 'enter', it does not need preceeding with a command. Any line you type that starts with a / is treated as a command. If you want to send a private message to someone the you can do that with the /msg command, e.g. /msg Equus Where were you last night? in this case only Equus will see the message and he will also be informed that it is a private message and who it was from. To leave a channel you can use: /leave this will leave the current channel but leave you connected to the server so you can /join another channel. or you can /quit this will disconnect you from the server. The commands covered above (/nick, /join, /list, /msg, /leave and /quit) are the minimum that you will need to use. What are channels? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you think of IRC as a large conference centre, then the channels are the equivalent of the individual discussion rooms. If there isn't a channel covering a subject you want to talk about the start one. This is done using the /join command, in exactly the same way as you would use it to join an existing channel. This is due to the way that IRC works, a channel doesn't exist until someone explicitly joins it, and they cease to exist when the last person /leaves. What problems occur when using IRC? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are two problems you will probably come across on a regular basis: lag (or netlag): because the messages you type are sent from server to server, there can be appreciable delays between you typing something and the other channel members seeing it, especially when the internet is heavily loaded. This delay is usually called lag, it can it extreme cases be several minutes. netsplit: sometimes the connections between servers fails and the IRC network breaks into several parts, each part existing independently. These splits may last seconds or in quite often for many minutes. Netsplits usually only occur when the network suddenly becomes heavily loaded. Conclusion ~~~~~~~~~~ The most important thing is to have fun, yes, serious discussion can be found, if you want it. But most people use IRC for just general chatter. Be aware though that it can become addictive. This text is not meant to be a definative guide to IRC. Please let me know of any errors or omissions that need to be dealt with. |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and it doesn't have that dangerous beak." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:15:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: Carly's Song To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. I had a question about the "Carly's song" cd single. First of all 1) Where can I get it? I have called dozens of places and none of them seem to have it 2) Is there a Jam and Spoon Mix of Carly's song? I know there is one of the "Age of loneliness" song. If there is a J&S mix, which one is better? Thanks a lot. Shan -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn:C()R()N/\ Je Veux Aller Au Bout De Mes Fantasmes:Mea Culpa|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 14:51:12 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Carly's Song To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Shan, > Hi all. I had a question about the "Carly's song" cd single. First of all > > 1) Where can I get it? I have called dozens of places and none of them seem > to have it I'm afraid you have to go for luck, two year old singles have never been easy to track down. Try for the usual approach of scanning record collector mags, record fairs and second hand stores. > 2) Is there a Jam and Spoon Mix of Carly's song? I know there is one of the > "Age of loneliness" song. If there is a J&S mix, which one is better? The Jam & Spoon Mix of 'Age Of Loneliness' and 'Carly's Song' are the same. Joar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:39:32 -0400 From: SKESSLER@aol.com Subject: Carly's Song To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have the PROMO CD of Carly's song and it has the LP version and J&S Mix 6:31.. I like them both... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:25:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Carly's Song To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au How are yall? May this list continue to get peaceful... I can get this single for $9.00 American... Shan-e-Ali, write me personally... LJR I On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, Shan-e-Ali Haider wrote: > Hi all. I had a question about the "Carly's song" cd single. First of all > > 1) Where can I get it? I have called dozens of places and none of them seem > to have it > > 2) Is there a Jam and Spoon Mix of Carly's song? I know there is one of the > "Age of loneliness" song. If there is a J&S mix, which one is better? > > Thanks a lot. > > Shan > > > > -- > **********************************************************************|PET | > Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| > Me To Yearn:C()R()N/\ Je Veux Aller Au Bout De Mes Fantasmes:Mea Culpa|BOYS| > **********************************************************************|RULE| > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: Carly's Song To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Hi Shan, > > > Hi all. I had a question about the "Carly's song" cd single. First of all > > > > 1) Where can I get it? I have called dozens of places and none of them seem > > to have it > > I'm afraid you have to go for luck, two year old singles have never been > easy to track down. Try for the usual approach of scanning record > collector mags, record fairs and second hand stores. > > > 2) Is there a Jam and Spoon Mix of Carly's song? I know there is one of the > > "Age of loneliness" song. If there is a J&S mix, which one is better? > > The Jam & Spoon Mix of 'Age Of Loneliness' and 'Carly's Song' are the same. Hi Joar. You mean to say that they are EXACTLY THE SAME? Jeez.. the only reason I wanted the Carly's song cd was because I thought it had a different J&S mix of Carly's song.... Thanks Shan. > > > Joar > -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn:C()R()N/\ Je Veux Aller Au Bout De Mes Fantasmes:Mea Culpa|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:28:38 +0000 From: "Christopher Silveira" Subject: Chat on IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is just a suggestion, but if so many people are into chatting, why don't we set up an IRC channel for ourselves? Does everyone know about how to use IRC? I can recommend an IRC server and we could go form a channel. As long as there is a least one person in our channel, it will not disappear. If it does someone can just create it again and we can all filter back in. A nice quick chat server that I use is 'iapp.netscape.com'. It isn't overloaded like some of the other well known servers. And to make things simple, we could just call the channel '#enigma". If anyone needs an IRC client, Netscape has a pretty decent one that is easy to use, available at 'www.netscape.com', and it's free! If anyone needs to know about IRC or creating channels or just anything about it feel free to email me about it. So why don't you all post your opinions about it. I think it is a great idea to be able to talk to people 'live' about certain things rather than having to post and watch for a reply. So my vote is in! Anyone else??? ---------------------------------- Christopher Silveira aka eric longfellow (the lost dj) csil@hooked.net chris_silveira@pagenet.com http://www.hooked.net:80/users/csil/ -=(UDIC)=- "Junior Dragon" "This our house, and our house miusic!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:35:48 -0400 From: EnigmaServ@aol.com Subject: Chat on IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Even though i would love for this to happen, there would be some Enigma Fans out there that could be missing out on some important discussion information. For example, when one person has a question, it benefits us all, not just the one. Now, let us say that we post a not such as this: -------------------------------------------------- October 18, 1995 at 10:00pm Eastern, chat-line for Enigma will be open for those who want to join. Transcript of the chat will be e-mailed to all subscribers of this list. --------------------------------------------------- You see, once a month, or once a week where we all can get together and get to know each other and learn more about our favorite group, plus be able to give the transcript to the mailing list would be superb!!!! Who knows, maybe the folks at Enigma themselves may join us every once in a while!!! Or, from the record label. So, let's NOT have an open channel. But, let's have a channel once a week or once a month. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |\/\/\/| | | | _ _> Dumb 'ole Margret in 1996 !!!!! | (o)(o) C _) | ,___| | -/ \\\/// T. L. Rutter.... /___\ ( oo ) EnigmaServ@aol.com -----------------oOO--(__)--OOo------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:43:16 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Chat on IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is a great idea in theory to have a discussion group once a month but some people (mainly me :)) have very limited access to IRC and I can only get on once and a while...what happens to me if I can't get on during the aloted time?? Transcripts are great but they don't allow you to perticipate in the discussion...an open constant channel will allow me to be able to log on at the weird times i have too and still have a chance of chatching someone on the Engima channel... Karen Sullivan | "Inside every small problem... IRC - Lupins | is a large problem struggling to get out" R7NM@UNB.CA | - unknown On Mon, 9 Oct 1995 EnigmaServ@aol.com wrote: > Even though i would love for this to happen, there would be some Enigma Fans > out there that could be missing out on some important discussion information. > For example, when one person has a question, it benefits us all, not just the > one. > > Now, let us say that we post a not such as this: > > -------------------------------------------------- > October 18, 1995 at 10:00pm Eastern, chat-line for Enigma will be open > for those who want to join. > > Transcript of the chat will be e-mailed to all subscribers of this list. > --------------------------------------------------- > > You see, once a month, or once a week where we all can get together and get > to know each other and learn more about our favorite group, plus be able to > give the transcript to the mailing list would be superb!!!! Who knows, maybe > the folks at Enigma themselves may join us every once in a while!!! Or, from > the record label. > > So, let's NOT have an open channel. But, let's have a channel once a week or > once a month. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |\/\/\/| > | | > | _ _> Dumb 'ole Margret in 1996 !!!!! > | (o)(o) > C _) > | ,___| > | -/ \\\/// T. L. Rutter.... > /___\ ( oo ) EnigmaServ@aol.com > -----------------oOO--(__)--OOo------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:37:01 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Chat on IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I agree. Of course, I know nothing about IRC except what I read on this list, but I still think this list is a preferrable option. I, too, can only log on at strange times! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:29:14 -0500 From: whtthndr@bga.com (Jason Echols) Subject: Chat on IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just another idea: Since I can never seem to get on the other server listed, I have set up an #Enigma-Fans channel on irc.colorado.edu If some of you are having the same problem, feel free to join me...if I am not around, please set the channel up yourself until I get it set up permanently ( or so I hope ) :) C'ya there! \\|// (o o) ------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------- Jason Echols | "Why do you park on | "Consciousness: That Whtthndr@bga.com | a driveway and | annoying time between Business Mgmt. | drive on a parkway?" | naps." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This Message was printed and distributed on 100% recycled electrons. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:21:38 +0100 (BST) From: "S.J.Totman" Subject: Congrats! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Um Well I guess i'll have to fourth that, good job, great site, kewl people and obviously a lot of hard work, much appreciated by us all. Steve T On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Lamar James Romero wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, bboggs wrote: > > > Um...Third here... > > LJR I > x > > > I second that > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > I vote for #enigma-fan > > > > > > karen :) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 22:37:38 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Correction to http://strangedays.com To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au http://strangedays.com is wrong, the real one is (that works) It is http://www.strangedays.com/ |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "I'll beat you someday, Marnie!" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and it doesn't have that dangerous beak." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Correction to http://strangedays.com To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Sorry..that's right. http://www.strangedays.com Zokakon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 16:12:20 MEZ From: h9550275@gutemine.wu-wien.ac.at (Juergen Smutek) Subject: Cross of Changes Limited Ed. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Enigma-Fans !!! I told you, that the golden Limited Edition CD is great because of 3 fantastic remixes and a new I love you... I kill you Version. Now you want to know where I bought it: In Austria there is NO problem to get ENIGMA-CD's so I bought the Golden One at "VIRGIN-MEGASTORE VIENNA" but there are more shops where you get it. I'm afraid that doesn't help you - but it must be possible to order it everywhere in the world ?!? Dale. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:52:06 -0500 From: SKESSLER@aol.com Subject: Cross Of Changes Poster To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've got a Cross of Changes poster for sale... It's in primo condition...It's $12 includes shipping in mailing tube!!! If you' d like to reserve it or ask questions email me privately.... thanks..SK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 20:49:28 EST From: "Nicki Sutherland" Subject: Curious... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have a question that I have been dying to ask for a long time. Ever since i can remember, I've wanted to buy all the CD's of SANDRA. I neve bought any music back in SA 'cos it was alway too expensive and I was hoping that when I got to the US that I could then get it all. Well, when I got here, I tried a several different music stores and I couldn't find anything of hers anywhere. In fact, nobody has ever heard of her. So what's up with that? Did she never make it to the US, or what. Please HELP??? //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- sutherland_nicki@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu ----------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** "If wishes were horses "Everybody has a hunger This begger would ride; No matter where they are; I'd have my cake and eat it Everybody clings to their own fear With a little on the side" Everybody hides some scar" -ME- -ME- ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:52:57 -0400 From: Jerry Smith Subject: Curious... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Nicki, I have found them at my local Camelot Music store and also via "Email Order" from cdconnection.com. I now have all that are in the states. I will probably order some thru cdeurope.com one of these days, because UPS now goes everywhere. At 08:49 PM 24-10-95 EST, you wrote: >I have a question that I have been dying to ask for a long time. Ever >since i can remember, I've wanted to buy all the CD's of SANDRA. I >neve bought any music back in SA 'cos it was alway too expensive and >I was hoping that when I got to the US that I could then get it all. >Well, when I got here, I tried a several different music stores and I >couldn't find anything of hers anywhere. In fact, nobody has ever >heard of her. So what's up with that? Did she never make it to the >US, or what. Please HELP??? > > //// > (. .) > ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- > sutherland_nicki@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu > ----------------------------------------- >********************************************************************** >"If wishes were horses "Everybody has a hunger >This begger would ride; No matter where they are; >I'd have my cake and eat it Everybody clings to their own fear >With a little on the side" Everybody hides some scar" > -ME- -ME- >********************************************************************** > > > > > > > Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Television. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:20:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Curious... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) > Ever since i can remember, I've wanted to buy all the CD's of SANDRA. I > neve bought any music back in SA 'cos it was alway too expensive and I > was hoping that when I got to the US that I could then get it all. > Well, when I got here, I tried a several different music stores and I > couldn't find anything of hers anywhere. In fact, nobody has ever heard > of her. So what's up with that? There's only one Sandra CD out in the US -- the Everlasting Love compilation, which came out in 1988. I cannot for the life of me understand why Virgin has made *no attempt whatsoever* to capitalize on Enigma's success by releasing some of Sandra's more recent albums in the US, but there you go -- if I could figure out why the record companies do things I'd be a very rich man. Some importers should be able to get you her CDs from Europe. CDnow (http://cdnow.com) offers 18 Greatest Hits and Fading Shades (and Everlasting Love), but that's it. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:51:41 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Curious... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Oct 25, 4:20pm, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > compilation, which came out in 1988. I cannot for the life of me > understand why Virgin has made *no attempt whatsoever* to capitalize on > Enigma's success by releasing some of Sandra's more recent albums in the > US, but there you go -- if I could figure out why the record companies do > things I'd be a very rich man. When I was in New York this summer, I actually found a Sandra album other than Everlasting Love. HMV, near Rockefeller Center, had The Long Play (her debut album), and this CD had a sticker on the cover announcing: Lead singer of Enigma. Together with the two copies of Everlasting Love this store had, this was all I found of Sandra in NYC, as well as in the Mid-West. Disappointing. Joar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:22:25 -0700 (MST) From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Curious... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) > When I was in New York this summer, I actually found a Sandra album > other than Everlasting Love. HMV, near Rockefeller Center, had The Long > Play (her debut album), and this CD had a sticker on the cover announcing: > Lead singer of Enigma. Was this a US release, or an import? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:12:45 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Curious... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Lazlo, > > When I was in New York this summer, I actually found a Sandra album > > other than Everlasting Love. HMV, near Rockefeller Center, had The Long > > Play (her debut album), and this CD had a sticker on the cover announcing: > > Lead singer of Enigma. > > Was this a US release, or an import? I would think that it was the German pressing, which Virgin attached a sticker to and presented there. But it could could also just be HMV which got it from Europe and made it avaiable in the US - I don't remember if there was any sign on the sticker. In any case I doubt it was a proper US release. Joar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 17:27:14 -0800 From: severo@pacificnet.net (severino ramos) Subject: Curious... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au All imported albuns of Sandra and Michael Cretu are now being tag as : Lead singer of Enigma. It seems that they are trying to make people discover who Sandra and Michael are. Hopefully their future albuns will have releases in the US as Everlasting Love and Paintings in Yellow were. Severo From L.A. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 17:30:43 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: Dao Dezi.... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just the other day, Joar wrote something about a Dao Dezi World Mix Album. I keep hearing about this album, but I have never seen this album. Is it the same CD with such songs as Sweet Lullaby and Savana Dance, or is this another album by the duo that make up the musical group Deep Forest? If anybody knows anything about this album, please let me know. I do have the Deep Forest World Mix, but never heard or seen the Dao Dezi World Mix album. Thanks!! See Ya! Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 06:31:58 -0600 From: jl@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (J. Li) Subject: Dao Dezi.... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Just the other day, Joar wrote something about a Dao Dezi World Mix >Album. I keep hearing about this album, but I have never seen this >album. Is it the same CD with such songs as Sweet Lullaby and Savana >Dance, or is this another album by the duo that make up the musical >group Deep Forest? If anybody knows anything about this album, please >let me know. I do have the Deep Forest World Mix, but never heard or >seen the Dao Dezi World Mix album. > >Thanks!! Dao Dezi is a project by Eric Mouquet (composer of Deep Forest) and Guilain Joncheray. It is not much discussed here because not too many people heard this album, and in my case, I don't really want to discuss it. I hated it. Forget about soft and ambient tracks of Deep Forest, chants of pygmies, Martha, and replace the songs with a male voice that you either love or hate, and you'll come close to the songs. Ti Eliz Iza is not a bad track, but I think I like Deep Forest or even Windows better. No, that is not Windoz (Mac user here), it is the album by Michel Sanchez, the other composer of Deep Forest. J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 18:43:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Judge Cody Kirkwood Subject: Data Alpha Mambo To: Enigma Listserver THe version of the MCMXC Limited that I got from Blockbuster says "Data Alpha Mambo" on the booklet, but it has no hologram on the cover. Is this just a later release? And, also, the CD itself, while multicolored, is the only thing to say "The Limited Edition"--what I mean is that the booklet does not say "The Limited Edition". The disc says "Made in Italy". Any info would help. Thanks! :) ****************************************************************************** Judge Cody Kirkwood http://www.unt.edu/~judge/ judge@jove.acs.unt.edu The Eyes Of Truth Are Always Watching You There's always an option other than executing the Cobain manuever... ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 13:37:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Lawrence Jee-Tae Kim Subject: Deep Forest To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Though I am not much of a fan of Deep Forest--mainly because I have never heard of their music--I saw in the credits that they are on the "Strange Days" soundtrack. If anyone has seen that movie, I would like to know when they played Deep Forest's music. I also do recommend the movie. Lawrence ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 12:53:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaysam Thanki Subject: Deep Forest To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I saw the movie, it was bloody amazing!! 10/10!! They played the music at the end, in the credits i though.. didnt see anything else throughout it though :( Same with the scarlett letter... no enigma during it.... Hmmm ************************************************ * Jaysam Thanki : JThanki@Ecs.Fullerton.Edu * * CA, USA XJThanki@CcVax.Fullerton.Edu * *****************INTEL INSIDE******************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:38:25 -0400 From: Gnostic7@aol.com Subject: Deep Forest To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Deep forest music is played over the closing credits. Peter Gabriel sings as well. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 03:44:12 -0400 From: lucas@InterLink.NET (Marty Lucas) Subject: Deep Forest and Strange Days To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello everyone. Maybe someone can enlighten me. Do any of you know if the soundtrack of the movie Strange Days is out and available in CANADA yet ? I just saw the movie (TWICE) this weekend and I was blown away. Actors are amazing, storyline terrific and the movie per se is a piece of ART. Of course, add to this additional scoring by DEEP FOREST and you get a product that is nothing shorter than remarquable. Anyways, I would appreciate feedback on this. Thank you. Marty Lucas lucas@interlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:51:40 +0100 From: perta@oslonett.no (Per Terje Aune) Subject: Deep Forest performance To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Joar wrote: >PS: Deep Forest performed 'Marta's Song' in the programme Sveip on >Norwegian TV (NRK) on September 23. I did not see this myself, but >they did have Marta Sebastyen singing live, and with the two members >playing on keyboards (probably on playback). Apparently the standard >show band joined in as well. I saw this! The keyboards were playback, but Marta's singing was live, because it didn't sound like it does on the album. They also had several musicians playing oyher instruments. It wasn't a great experience, but it was interesting to see them play live. My grandmother saw it too, but didn't like it at all :-| Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 16:36:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "It's me again..." Subject: deep forest soundtrack. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au well.. its a little known fact that deep forest is collaborating with tom hanks to put out an album called "deep forrest", which will be deep forest's regular style of techno/trance, with forrest gump voice samples mixed in. hahaha -- (in case your a moron -- i was just kiddin) -- but there is good news... on the soundtrack for STRANGE DAYS, deep forest does two songs (one is a duet with peter gabriel!!!) and they are excellent... please keep us all posted on the deep forest full soundtrack deal though.. take care... 00 zerozero@paranoia.com http://www.paranoia.com/~zerozero we are young - we run green keep our teeth - nice and clean see our friends - see the sights feel alright - supergrass ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 10:19:53 EDT From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Deep Forest soundtrack? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I saw a promo for a new movie called 'Creative Days' (?) and I would swear that the background music was by Deep Forest. It sounded like a strange mix of 'Sweet Lullaby', 'Nightbird', and 'White Whisper', with variations. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 17:47:22 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Deep Forest soundtrack? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Oct 6, 10:19am, Carl C. Fogelin wrote: > I saw a promo for a new movie called 'Creative Days' (?) and I would swear > that the background music was by Deep Forest. It sounded like a strange > mix of 'Sweet Lullaby', 'Nightbird', and 'White Whisper', with variations. Some time ago I read that Deep Forest will make the soundtrack for an upcoming film, which I _believe_ was to be made by Luc Besson. According to the Luc Besson Films FAQ Version 1.2 by Marius Willms, Besson's next film is a sci-fi, outer space flick, starring Bruce Willis, and rumoured to be called The Fifth Element. What you say could either be this, or just Deep Forest's music used in the trailer of this film, without them being featured in the soundtrack. Joar PS: Deep Forest performed 'Marta's Song' in the programme Sveip on Norwegian TV (NRK) on September 23. I did not see this myself, but they did have Marta Sebastyen singing live, and with the two members playing on keyboards (probably on playback). Apparently the standard show band joined in as well. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: TAZmanian DEVIL Subject: Deep Forest soundtrack? To: joarg@hsr.no On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 joarg@hsr.no wrote: > On Oct 6, 10:19am, Carl C. Fogelin wrote: > > > I saw a promo for a new movie called 'Creative Days' (?) and I would swear > > that the background music was by Deep Forest. It sounded like a strange > > mix of 'Sweet Lullaby', 'Nightbird', and 'White Whisper', with variations. > >From my knowledge from what I read about three months ago on the net, the upcoming movie's (that you heard promo for) soundtrack is by Deep Forest. I have been looking for the soundtrack eversince I first heard of the announcement but no one seems to know anything about it until now that the movie is about to come to theatres. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 17:54:33 -0300 From: Joseph MacKay Subject: Deep Forest soundtrack? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 joarg@hsr.no wrote: > On Oct 6, 10:19am, Carl C. Fogelin wrote: > > > I saw a promo for a new movie called 'Creative Days' (?) and I would swear > > that the background music was by Deep Forest. It sounded like a strange > > mix of 'Sweet Lullaby', 'Nightbird', and 'White Whisper', with variations. > > Some time ago I read that Deep Forest will make the soundtrack for an > upcoming film, which I _believe_ was to be made by Luc Besson. According > to the Luc Besson Films FAQ Version 1.2 by Marius Willms, Besson's next > film is a sci-fi, outer space flick, starring Bruce Willis, and rumoured > to be called The Fifth Element. I *think* the flick you're talking about is Strange Days. I haven't seen the full trailer yet, only the TV version, but I'm pretty sure I heared that DF was doing the soundtrack. So far as I can tell though, it wasn't an outer-space thing, and Bruce Willis wasn't mentioned. But then, I could be wrong.... :) ____________________________________________ Joseph MacKay (af447@ccn.cs.dal.ca) "Aestheticly pleasing, in other words fly." -Soul Coughing ____________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 01:38:53 +0100 From: Per Terje Aune Subject: Deep Forest WWW Homepage To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, Since I have yet to find any real Deep Forest WWW homepages, I have tried to make one myself. Don't expect much, but please tell me what you think, and if you have any critics. I am very open for suggestions. It's not much yet, but then again, noone's forcing you to visit it. It's 'opening' today (31.09.95) and is found at http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html From: Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 08:26:37 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: Deep Forest WWW Homepage To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hello, > >Since I have yet to find any real Deep Forest WWW homepages, I have tried to >make one myself. Don't expect much, but please tell me what you think, and >if you have any critics. I am very open for suggestions. It's not much yet, >but then again, noone's forcing you to visit it. It's 'opening' today >(31.09.95) and is found at > http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html > >From: Per Terje Aune > Hi Per Terje Aune, I checked out your home page. Do not underestimate yourself! It is great!!!!! I'm anxious to see the end result after you finish it. The background is wonderful!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!! Sincerely, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Oct 1995 14:16:11 -0600 From: "Sam Spink" Subject: Delerium To: "Enigma" Texas A&M University Department of Food Services Agronomy Rd, College Station, TX 77843-1374 409-862-2014, Fax 845-2157 Delerium 10/9/95 2:13 PM Whoever posted the piece of mail concerning the Delerium album hit the nail on the head. I picked up the CD this weekend and think it is great. It is somewhat similiar to Enigma (not quite as great) but gives me a good break from the continuous string of Enigma tunes which play through my system. Thanks for the great piece of info. Sam Spink s-spink@tamu.edu Computer Systems Manager ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 23:53:38 +0000 From: quadrig@ibm.net Subject: Delerium: Flowers Become Screens To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I bought the Maxi-CD of Delerium's "Incantation / Flowers Become Screens" last week. It's made under license to Synthetic Symphony (Germany, 1995). Now I want to know if the tracks of my CD are the same as the titles on the original "Flowers Become Screens"-Maxi-CD-release. Here is the track-listing: 1- 3:35 Incantation (Radio Edit) 2- 4:22 Flowers Become Screens (Radio Edit) 3- 7:57 Flowers Become Screens (Frequency Modulation Mix) 4- 5:34 Flowers Become Screens (Return To Babylon-Mix) If there are different tracks, a track-listing would be great... Thanks for your answers, Thomas Eisermann, Quadriga (Berlin/Germany) e-Mail: quadrig@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 21:31:36 -0400 From: SKESSLER@aol.com Subject: Delerium: Flowers Become Screens To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au My US release CD has the following tracks: 1 Edit 2 Frequency Modulation Mix 3 Return To Babylon Mix 4 12" Mix/Edit Thanks..SK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:05:24 -0400 From: "Austin A." Subject: differences in Enigma laserdiscs To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au howdy all, I was just wondering if there is any difference between the first enigma laserdisc (which is no longer in print) and the current disc available. I've ordered the current and have a source for the no-longer-in-print version and am curious whether or not I should get that one also. poor, but addicted to enigma, austin. p.s. can't wait. this friday am going to go see "scarlet" just to hear the soundtrack......well, not *entirely*. Demi has something to do with this as well. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 05:49:12 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: Dream Everlasting Dream Enigmites To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Message sent in by PKucera@aol.com: Is it me, or does Rachelle's "!" key appear to have a sticking problem. > >Who knows what kind of messages we'd see if she had a smiley face character >with which to end her sentences. > >Rachelle... just some friendly chiding. Welcome to the list. Dear Enigmite Presidency & Enigmites, (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: Thank You Sweety!!!!!(: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: I must publicaly thank Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (In other words Gavin and the Enigma Mailing list crew). If it were not for this mailing list, I would not have recieved the many kind messages that members have sent me. I have recieved countless reply's from so many of the Enigmites from this list. Ranging from Introductions, Hello's, Thank You's, and even compliments. These messages are so thoughtful and appreciated. Thank's everyone!!!! Dream Sweet everlasting dreams!!!!! Smiles and more Smiles!!!!!! (: (: Love, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, AZ, USA (P.S. Notice the inspiration that beautiful music such as ENIGMA gives. It is so special!) - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:34:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: DURAN DURAN... To: Enigma Fan Club The person who wrote the Duran Duran message is right. "Come undone" is a spectacular song on the "ORDINARY WORLD" CD. The rest of it is really good... Also, the single to "Age of Loneliness" is also very, very good! The club version and the spoon and jive version are astounding!! Later yall! LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:54:30 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: DURAN DURAN... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >The person who wrote the Duran Duran message is right. "Come undone" is >a spectacular song on the "ORDINARY WORLD" CD. The rest of it is really >good... > >Also, the single to "Age of Loneliness" is also very, very good! The >club version and the spoon and jive version are astounding!! > >Later yall! > > LJR I Yes, Duran Duran's song 'Come undone' is great!!!!!! and as LJR I says: let us not forget Enigma's song 'Age of Lonelisness'. It is wonderful!!!! Smiles, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 22:20:53 EDT From: hbh2c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Subject: ENIGMA To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello- My name is Hali and I am 18 yrs old. I am a student at the university of Virginia but I am from Chicago, Il I have loved Enigma since the first time I heard their song The Sadeness! I have the Enigma MCMXC a.D. tape with the Sadeness on it, but I want to get more of Enigma. Please tell me other tapes that I should get of them. Also I love their new song- Return to Innocence. I am also a Raver from Chicago, so if anybody wants to tell me about their Rave scenes it would be great. Well, I am glad to know that I am on the Enigma mailing list. Keep the Vibe Alive Love Hali ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:53:44 -0500 From: benr@pinn.net (Ben Ronen) Subject: Enigma To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Name: Ben Ronen Age: 18 Enigma Collection: MCMXC a.D. & The Cross of Changes Other artists: I like Scatman John If there are any other CDs of Engima please tell me. I am a huge fan of Enigma. There are three songs I like on the 2 CDs I have. 1) Principles of Lust 2) Return to Innocence 3) Silent Warrior Those songs are awesome. Please reply asap. Ben Ronen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:25:44 -0600 From: jpena@raven.benedictine.edu (JoAnna =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pe=F1a?= ) Subject: Enigma To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I don't think that there are any new CD's out. I would like to know if there are. So, if you find out then please tell me. Thanks JoAnna #1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1= #1 Colorado Buffs #1 JoAnna Pe=F1a jpena@benedictine.edu B.C. Box 343 1020 N. 2nd St. Atchison, Kansas 66002 1-913-367-5340 Ext: 5051 Colorado Buffs #1 #1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1 #1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:28:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: Enigma To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au :From: Dinh Le :Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:56:03 -0700 (PDT) :Subject: Why French? :I have a question that I don't think anyone has :addressed on this list, or maybe it has but it has slipped my mind. :Anyway I was just wondering if anyone out there knows why MCMX ad was in :French? What Cretu was Rommanian and Sandra is Spanish? Where did French :work it's way into the equation? Well at least Sadeness and Mea Culpa :was. I thought that it was really cool that I couldn't understand it for :about four years, it had allot of mystery to it that Cross of changes :lacked. And when I finally did find out what it all meant I found that I :liked the album even more if that was possible. Am I alone in this? :Dinh LE Hello Cretu was living in France at the time he produce his first Enigma album. _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:52:50 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Enigma To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. Someone wrote: > Cretu was living in France at the time he produce his first Enigma album. My information states that Michael Cretu was living in Ibiza, Spain (where his studio is) when he made the first Enigma album. Can you tell me where you got this information from? Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 19:59:48 -0500 From: zzhughesb@acad.winthrop.edu Subject: ENIGMA!!! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Please don't think I'm a pervert, but I think Enigma's music is SOOOOO sexy!!! It's true, I am a very sexual person but I think I like their music also because it is so psychological. It just puts me into this state of mind or something. I LOVE it!!!! It's like it really doesn't need words to convey it's message (however one interprets it)... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:32:37 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: ENIGMA!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, many people have expressed their thoughts on the sexual emotions provoked by Enigma's music. I must share my experience last night. (don't worry, I won't share all the details). Last night I went over to this guy's house whom I just recently met. We just sat on his couch and talked and got to know each other. He had some CD's playing...pretty mellow music. Enigma came one and I swear something came over both of us. We didn't get too sexual; however, it was the most intense session of just caressing and holding. As the music played we just kept looking into each other's eyes. Without saying any words, I feel as though we got to know each other. The music played on and it, as others have expressed, just put us in to some kind of other state of mind. It was incredible!!! Other songs that were played were by Deep Forest, Art of Noise and Enya (all of which have been discussed here). Enigma should be promoted as a safe sex tool. Although we didn't have sex,the intense emotions that Enigma helped bring to surface made us content and satisfied as though we had. I think last night tops as my most favorite Enigma moment...for the time being. Ha! Ha! Thanks for listening, well, reading. Peace and love to you! JOHN INGRAM - MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA USA ********************************************************************* www.betterbagel.com - personal home page www.betterbagel.com/bbi.html - professional home page ****************************************************************** As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. ~ Nelson Mandela, 1994 Inaugural Speech ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:34:07 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: ENIGMA!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Mon, 30 Oct 1995 zzhughesb@acad.winthrop.edu wrote: > Please don't think I'm a pervert, but I think Enigma's music is SOOOOO > sexy!!! It's true, I am a very sexual person but I think I like their > music also because it is so psychological. It just puts me into this state > of mind or something. I LOVE it!!!! It's like it really doesn't need words > to convey it's message (however one interprets it)... > > Brian > Too late Brian. We all think you are a pervert =(;-) Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 10:21:53 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Enigma (of course) To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, now that I've joined the Enigma Mailing List, I suppose I better send this so people know about me. You ready? Here it goes: Name: Paul C. A. Harmeyer E-mail: Romany7777@aol.com Age: 18 Enigma Collection: "MCMXC a. D. - Limited Edition", imported from Germany, CD full "The Cross Of Changes", U.S., CD full-length "Age Of Loneliness", U.S., CD single "The Eyes Of Truth", imported from Germany, CD single "Out From The Deep", imported from Germany, CD single "Sliver" (soundtrack), U.S., CD full-length First Time: I turned on to Enigma when "Sadeness Part 1" came out. I read about it on the European charts and figured it must sound pretty good. I was instantly hooked. Others: I must admit, Enigma is my second favorite artist. I LOVE Madonna. I also enjoy Deep Forest, Prince (now called 0(->)), ABBA, Blondie, Deee-Lite, Annie Lennox, Traci Lords, and RuPaul (there are more, but I'll be nice and just give you the best). Job: Right now, I'm a student at University of Minnesota--Twin Cities, and I'm trying to get a clerical/secretarial job part-time. I'm studying English, I think (who knows what my major will be). Other Info: The biggest thing about me is the fact that I'm gay, and fiercely proud of it. I also write songs, mainly dance (I have about 50 total I've written over 4 years), but I have a few songs that were inspired by Enigma and sound very similar to them. Well, that's me. Hope to be hearing from you all soon! :-)! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:46:46 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: Enigma, Deep Forest... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi to all: Just last night, I saw the promo for The Scarlet Letter, and I was SO glad to finally hear the Eyes Of Truth on it. It sounds real cool! I was wondering, does anyone out there know about the new movie, Strange Days? I heard that Deep Forest would be doing the score for the soundtrack. I was wondering if the soundtrack has or will be released? What songs does Deep Forest do? And, just the other day, a guy said that on the promo, it sounded like a mix of Sweet Lullaby, Desert Walk and Savana Dance? Any ideas?? See Ya!Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:02:22 -0400 (EDT) From: ALEXANDERK@wmich.edu Subject: Enigma, Kevin the fowl mouth, APOTHOS, and love......! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello. I was just reading the Digest V1 #171 tonight and trying to eat a bowl of creamy Turkish vegetarian soup and mow down on a piece of bread when i came to the posting by the infamous Kevins@bgnet.bgsu.edu. I would like to know one thing relevant to this obviously very angry person. Does anyone know how to contact his sysop at the institution where his account is coming from?????? I would enjoy very much to send a message to the person who is in charge of his mainframe.....and student accts..... i suppose i could scan the www for the information, and most likely i will.... now, on a musical note, there was a person who wanted to know if anyone on this group likes White Zombie, well, I DO!!! Here are some other bands i enjoy on a regular basis: The Cure Shamen Underground Lovers Innocence Mission Sun 60 Pearl Jam Depeche Mode Catherine Wheel (Happy Days is good) Scorn Best Kissers in the World Pretty & Twisted ( Marc Moreland:Wall of voodoo & Johnette Napolitano of concrete blonde) KMFDM to name a few..... One more question, i am trying to get a cut from a group called "APOTHOS" which is a remix of a tune from a couple centuries ago. If anyone knows of this band, or how i can get a copy of this tune, please email me at the following address: alexanderk@wmich.edu. I would really appreciate it. I will try to find out the name of it, but i have heard it has been discontinued................. as for Kevin, lets just ignore his fowl mouth...... This group is way too cool to fall into that kind of disqusting trap! Such Vulgarity!!!! Lets just continue the peaceful discourse of Enigma related subjects here, and continue on the path of love here! I love Enigma!!!! They RULE!!!!!! peace and love Kim Alexander The Technobrat in the Zoo. Western Michigan University Kalamazoo, Michigan "Time is Nature's way to ensure that things don't happen all at once." (the views expressed by me are none other than mine and do not reflect those of Western Michigan University!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 08:17:31 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #144 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >[snip] > >> >> Another example: Your looking right at it!!!!! (SMile!!) >> >> Forever Keep Smiling!!!! >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, AZ, USA >> > > >Hi Rachelle, > >Greetings from SW Ohio. I must say you have been an interesting addition >to the mailing list. I look forward to reading your future posts. > >Bret >bboggs@dnaco.net Hello Brett (or bboggs-Smile), Greetings from Phx.,AZ. Thank you very much!!!!! I do enjoy very much this mailing list. The magic and joy that music (such as ENIGMA) gives a person uplifts and is cause for exciting discussions. I cannot imagine what life would be like without music-without Enigma. I do not want to think about that. Oh, How sad life would be. I look forward to reading your future posts also! Forever Keep Smiling!!!! Sincerely, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA (P.S. Bret I have to tell you that I think your little apology to Inge is so sweet!!!!! Your great!!!!! Happy Listening!!!!!!) - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 23:04:31 -0400 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #144 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Is it me, or does Rachelle's "!" key appear to have a sticking problem. Who knows what kind of messages we'd see if she had a smiley face character with which to end her sentences. Rachelle... just some friendly chiding. Welcome to the list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:17:56 +0100 From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #151 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Re: Ooooh, I dunno, Point 1. (Neil Hutton) - Figure skating on horseback eh? And we thought MCMXC a.D. stirred the imagination!! Point 2. (Kim A. Alexander) My apologies, you are not a loony, your vocabulary is merely hopelessly out-of-control. Please do not respond to this, my eyes hurt every time I read one of your postings (not to mention needing to lie down). Only kidding! Ever thought of taking up poetry? NO? good. Point 3. Ermm.... Point 4. I remember now! Isn't Rachelle a happy person?! Pity we get the ENTIRE MESSAGE every time she responds to something though...*snigger* Point 5. One more thing - I got Ennio Morricone's ('zat spelt right?) soundtrack to "The Mission" today. Yes yes, I know it's an old one and we've probably all got it alreay, but by gum, it's good innit? Toodleoo everyone, see ya next time Jez. P.S. I'm a student teacher - frightening eh? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:18:59 +0100 From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #151 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Re: Marta - what a voice Just to let you lot know I can occaisionally be serious (*yawn*, *yawn* - I know) thanks a lot for the Marta info Grebenar, I've got a couple of questions though... 1. You say she sings in Transylvanian. As I understood it (and my knowledge of E. European geography ain't fully comprehensive), there _is_ no Transylvania. Is the language she sings in from Romania, Moldova, Hungary, or did you mean she sings in an old dialect? Or is the nationalist feeling over there so strong that you consider yourself to be Transylvanian? (I say this because you seem to understand what she says and I can't really imagine anyone _not_ from the Transylvanian region being able to speak the language) Thoughts please?... 2. Anyone know where I can get Hungarian rock music from? No-one say Hungary please....*grin* By god I'm hungry...oooh! A pun. Jez. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 08:26:02 -0400 (EDT) From: ALEXANDERK@wmich.edu Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #151 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Re: Ooooh, I dunno, > Point 1. (Neil Hutton) - Figure skating on horseback eh? And we thought MCMXC a.D. stirred the imagination!! > Point 2. (Kim A. Alexander) My apologies, you are not a loony, your vocabulary is merely hopelessly out-of-control. Please do not respond to this, my eyes hurt every time I read one of your postings (not to mention needing to lie down). Only kidding! Ever thought of taking up poetry? NO? good. > Point 3. Ermm.... > Point 4. I remember now! Isn't Rachelle a happy person?! Pity we get the ENTIRE MESSAGE every time she responds to something though...*snigger* > Point 5. One more thing - I got Ennio Morricone's ('zat spelt right?) soundtrack to "The Mission" today. Yes yes, I know it's an old one and we've probably all got it alreay, but by gum, it's good innit? > Toodleoo everyone, see ya next time > Jez. > P.S. I'm a student teacher - frightening eh? If i want to reply to a post i will. i wrote that first post after a 20 hr work day and learned my lesson, even if it IS from a "student teacher" First of all, i teach ecology at western michigan university, and i teach in public schools, and write for and alt.music revue mag. Second of all, i have a www site of poetry all ready. Thirdly, i have a son your age, and at least he has "manners" something that you appear to be in more need of. Fourth, you need to fix your editor in your software, or configure your modem correctly because your text runs off the page. Fifth and lastly, i am going to unsubscribe to this newsgroup and if i want to learn more about Enigma, I will catch them on the WWW, where this drivel and petty arguing does not take place, and facts are found. please do not email me to my personal acct. listed here because quite frankly I have no time to deal with the diatribe and drivel that some folks spew out here. I give credit however, to the person moderating this group, wish everyone luck in finding what they are looking for in life and hope that Enigma brings all of you joy and happiness! (yea even you Jez, whoever you may be, good luck in public schools, esp. with the administration and parents, you are going to need it!) sincerely Kim Alexander Department of Biological Sciences Western Michigan University Kalamazoo, Michigan 49008 (the views expressed here are not those of Western Michigan University, but soley those of Kim Alexander.) "Time is Nature's way to ensure that things don't happen all at once." --Anon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:57:26 +0100 From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #152 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Re: If i want to reply to a post i will. (K.A.A) So sorry, I had no idea you were a crumbly, us youngsters mustn't presume to criticise the likes of you must we? Strange really, I talk to Americans every day, most of whom are very easy to please and UP-TO-DATE. Then you come along and prove the old saying that Americans have no understanding of sarcasm - and in your case, humour too. (My apologies to any Americans out there who do understand the pointless humour in my exchanges, but some people do seem to need it spelling out for them don't they?). Sort yourself out please, your age is irrelevant, and no-one gets respect unless they earn it. Being born before somebody else does not qualify. In future I think we should limit our verbal fencing to private emails, the rest of the list don't want to read our bickering do they? Lots of love (<--- sarcasm there) Jez. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:05:29 +0100 From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #152 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Re: Transylvania info... Thanks a lot people, hope I didn't offend anyone by saying Transylvania doesn't exist, I simply meant 'exists as a country' not a region, however I do understand that regions are just as important to the people who live in them. Thanks for the info on Hungarian music - I'll now have to go and try to find Britain's most obscure music shop, or I could just ask some Romany's eh? Well, the bank calls (all too often), Jez. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 20:05:16 -0400 (EDT) From: ALEXANDERK@wmich.edu Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #153 To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > ~~~~~~~~~~~ A Personal Note to the Group~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I would just like to say that I very much so enjoy the sounds of Enigma. > However, what I do NOT appreciate is being called NAMES, such as "LOONEY" > or made fun of because I DO have an opinion. It would then be my suggestion > that if you seem to have the habit of using such language in public net use, > that you learn proper netiquette, and try to NOT judge or offend > others and to try to just accept the fact > that everyone is different here, with different life experiences and > perspectives in their minds. Diversity is the spice of life. We are all > blessed to have such a wide range of music on the planet from which to chose > from to listen to. The sounds of Enigma seen to touch people in very kind, > loving, peaceful ways. I find it most disturbing to see people being called > names, and made fun of in this group by Jez. It is then my request to Jez, > and anyone else who has the cynicism, sarcasm, and rude comments as he > appears to have to just keep them to him(them) self(ves), because I believe > that there are not too many people here who appreciate them. > As Gavin stated earlier, those types of communication are more dimensional > empirically than the internet affords them to be, hence, many people who read > such drivel could be misled as to the correct idea that was to be expressed. > Now I can only imagine that if a person *really* thought about it, ie. > that their means of expression was being misinterpreted in a negative way, > then that person would *stop* doing it, unless of course there is some > gratification in belittling others. > I for one, am going to ignore Jez and everything he has to say because his > comments have no value in them for my personal growth. This is the last time > I will mention this issue on this newsgroup. I will continue lurking here > however, and if someone is off base again, I will make a gentle complaint to > Gavin and perhaps something can be done to make this group a warmer, kinder, > group as it was before Jez got on line and started name-calling and > ridiculing others for expressing their opinions. > So let it be known, I do hereby ignore you Jez, and I do hereby > *** "Return to the Innocence" *** > of lurking!!!!! > sincerely, > and love <--------- ( NOT sarcastically, but truely) > Kim Alexander > Dept. of Biological Sciences > Western Michigan University > Kalamazoo, Michigan. > (The opinions expressed in this post are only those of Kim Alexander) > "An idealist believes the short run doesn't count. A cynic believes the long > run doesn't matter. A realist believes that what is done or left undone in > the short run determines the long run." > --Sydney J. Harris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:45:25 +0100 From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #153 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Re: Gee, are we uptight today? I apologise massively, one of my lecturers is called Neil Hutton - thought for a moment you might have been him when I typed it, (would've been wierd eh?) See ya later Jez. P.S. Enigma are great - just thought I'd mention it in case I get accused of getting off the subject ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 02:20:15 -0400 From: Altrusian1@aol.com Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #154 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi this is Altrusian1 from Houston Texas. Real Name Brian J. How do you guys chat together in real time, When and where does this interaction take place. I would like to participate sometimes. Please e-mail me back with this information -Brian in Houson-- "ALTRUSIAN 1" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 08:36:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Echols Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #154 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au You know, I think this is a GREAT idea! Any ideas for a time and local? On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 Altrusian1@aol.com wrote: > Hi this is Altrusian1 from Houston Texas. Real Name Brian J. How do you guys > chat together in real time, When and where does this interaction take place. > I would like to participate sometimes. Please e-mail me back with this > information > > -Brian in Houson-- "ALTRUSIAN 1" > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 13:33:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #154 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 Altrusian1@aol.com wrote: > Hi this is Altrusian1 from Houston Texas. Real Name Brian J. How do you guys > chat together in real time, When and where does this interaction take place. > I would like to participate sometimes. Please e-mail me back with this > information > > -Brian in Houson-- "ALTRUSIAN 1" > This gentleman has a legitimate question? Where can we go to chat, someone please answer... LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:11:28 +0100 From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #160 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just a question people - when everyone talks about MXMXC a.D. (Lim.Ed), do you mean the holograhic cover version or the standard dark green cover one with a bluey-purpley picture. I can't believe you ALL mean the latter, as in England you cannot buy any version of MXMXC a.D. other than the limited edition! (However, the holographic cover jobs are _phenomenally_ rare). Explanations please.... Jez ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:21:46 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #160 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > >Just a question people - when everyone talks about MXMXC a.D. (Lim.Ed), do you mean the holograhic cover version or the standard dark green cover one with a bluey-purpley picture. I can't believe you ALL mean the latter, as in England you cannot buy any version of MXMXC a.D. other than the limited edition! (However, the holographic cover jobs are _phenomenally_ rare). > > > Explanations please.... > > > Jez > > >Well...I haven't seen the limited edition in the US....My understanding is that it's phenominally rare...As for the holographic ver....any know where to get one? As I have mentioned before...I am a new collector, so I have a ton of stuff to buy yet! Argh! Thanks, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:44:24 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #160 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au You mean there's a holographic cover? First time I've heard that, don't know about everyone else! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 21:38:45 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #160i To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. You asked: > Just a question people - when everyone talks about MXMXC a.D. (Lim.Ed), do you mean the holograhic cover version or the standard dark green cover one with a bluey-purpley picture. I can't believe you ALL mean the latter, as in England you cannot buy any > version of MXMXC a.D. other than the limited edition! (However, the holographic cover jobs are _phenomenally_ rare). It shouldn't matter since the music on both versions of the CD are the same. It just so happens that the cover and the rarity on one of them is much greater than the other! :) Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:01:49 -0400 From: "Austin A." Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #174 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >> My favorite 'moment' happened about a month ago. I had some friends >> over one nightand I was spinning some really hard trance (I'm a >> little-known house dj). Anyway, I was really getting into itand so >> was everyone else. Well, I threw in this wicked remix of Age of >> Loneliness I have on a ltd. edition picture disc. It is one of the >> hardest mixes of Enigma that I have. My friends went nuts! They had to what disc is the above reference "ltd. edition picture disk..." made to? Is is a video disc (laserdisc, etc) or what? austin. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:07:23 +0000 From: Danni Rikkoert Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #180 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au By the way, about "The Seventh Seal": You should really go see the movie "The Seventh Sign" with Demi Moore Than you understand everything in such an intense fashion, you really have to think the movie all over again once you've seen it. Second, I'll make sure to look at every record-shop at least once a weak.... 'Qause I really want that Special Limited Edition of The CROSS of Changes... Bye In The Time Of Angels. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:39:28 +0000 From: Danielle Rikkoert Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #184 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au About Sade, the definitely knows what a good bassline is, just listen to the album Love Deluxe qand you'll know it (No ordinary Love, Cherish the day) Bye, david In The Time Of Angels. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:48:22 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #184 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Danielle Rikkoert wrote: > About Sade, the definitely knows what a good bassline is, just listen to the > album Love Deluxe qand you'll know it (No ordinary Love, Cherish the day) > > Bye, david > In The Time Of Angels. > > > Amen! Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 23:07:01 -0400 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Enigma AOL 2.6 Sound File To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au *** IF you are NOT a Macintosh America OnLine user, then you might want to stop reading and delete this now. *** If you made it this far, you're likely a Mac AOL user who likes Enigma. If you are - and you are using AOL version 2.6 (the current version) - you may want to know that you can substitute your standard AOL sounds with Enigma sound clips ... in one very easy step. Search the AOL software libraries for "Enigma." One of the hits you should get is called "Enigma AOL 2.6 !!! SNDs" posted by SunStar18 on July 21, 1995. If you can't find it, I suppose you could send an e-mail request for it directly to the author of these sounds: SunStar18@aol.com. The following text is excerpted from the download file information: ____________ Enigma AOL 2.6 1995 SunStar, Inc. Here it is, folks, your very own copy of the Enigma online sounds file for AOL 2.6! These are the samples: WELCOME: Opening sequence from "Mea Culpa Part II" (Orthodox Mix) INSTANT MESSAGE: "This is the voice of Enigma" from "Voice Of Enigma" YOU'VE GOT MAIL: Opening sequence from "Rivers Of Belief" (Returning Silence Mix) FILE'S DONE: Opening sequence from "Out From The Deep" GOODBYE: The Native American chant from "Return To Innocence" (380 Midnight Mix) To install, first make a copy of your Online Sounds file located in the Online files folder. Then, copy the new ONLINE SOUNDS file into your ONLINE FILES folder. Now your AOL 2.6 software is an Enigma !!! This is e-mailware. If you like the file, drop us a line at sunstar18@aol.com. ____________ Just passing along the info. I installed the sounds, and love 'em. (Thanks, SunStar18) Have fun! pk. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:48:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Joshua D. Pointer" Subject: Enigma in MDR night-program To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au thanks... On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Inge wrote: > > Sorry, sorry, but Inge's forgotton to state the video tape formats: > > The tape itselves is VHS; the TV-standard is PAL and there's > absolutely no way to make a copy in NTSC 'cause the only standard in > Europe is - PAL. > > INGE > > > > > ******************************************* > e-mail: antje.kuechler@mb2.tu-chemnitz.de > ******************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:25:43 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma List Salutations all :) I was in a Card Store the other day and they had this awsome music on!! I started asking all the store clerks (don't worry I knew them) who was playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) Well the next thing I knew I was in a music store looking for her CD's...and i found Two...but I'm on a very limited budget and before I go out and buy one I was wondering if anyone has heard of her and which CD would be better to buy?? Thanks in advance for any information :) Plus on Much Music the other day they had a little thingy on Deep Forest. They interviewed the two (what I believe to be) composers of the music...it was a real cool interview and I was wondering if anybody else saw it...because from what I've been reading on the list, it's sounds like they only did a couple of songs on the Strange Days sound trak but on the interview they said that who ever the producers where came to them and asked them to do the entire score!! What's with this?? Did anybody else see this?? Does anybody have the sound trak and know for sure?? Anyways just wondering!! Karen Sullivan | "Korman's conclusion: IRC - Lupins | The trouble with resisting temptation is it may R7NM@UNB.CA | never come your way again." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 10:08:56 EDT From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I was in a Card Store the other day and they had this awsome music on!! >I started asking all the store clerks (don't worry I knew them) who was >playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) Hmm, I never expected to hear of Enya discussed in this mailing list-- good music, but not particularly Enigma like. Enya has three major release: "Enya" (which I believe has been rereleased as "Celtic ..." aahh, can't remember the second word, "Watermark", and "Shepards' Moon". Watermark was the album that made her a hit in the US about 6 years ago. I have all three CDs, but personally like "Watermark" the best. Chances are the song you heard was Orinoco Flow, which is on Watermark. That's the CD I'd recommend. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:13:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Salutations all :) > > I was in a Card Store the other day and they had this awsome music on!! > I started asking all the store clerks (don't worry I knew them) who was > playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) Well the next thing I knew I was in a > music store looking for her CD's...and i found Two...but I'm on a very > limited budget and before I go out and buy one I was wondering if anyone > has heard of her and which CD would be better to buy?? Thanks in advance > for any information :) Hi Karen! Enya is correct. There are actually three but you probably saw Watermark and Shepherd Moons. The third album (which was her first solo release) is The Celts (I think). Anyway, my favorite of the three is Watermark. I'd recommend that first. It contains my favorite pieces Watermark and Storms in Africa. Shepherd Moons which I'd recommend as a close second contains more "luscious" sounds. I recommend that as a close second. SM has music that was featured in the movie Far and Away. The Celts album is also good. It was used in a PBS broadcast about the Celts (hence the title name). Anyway, let me know what you get! I'd like to hear your opinion. Take it easy. -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:15:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Echols Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) Well the next thing I knew I was in a > music store looking for her CD's...and i found Two...but I'm on a very > limited budget and before I go out and buy one I was wondering if anyone > has heard of her and which CD would be better to buy?? Thanks in advance > for any information :) > Well, I am an ENYA FREAK! ...and my favorite album is Watermark. If they don't have that one, try Shepherd Moons. They are both really good. Actually, I think everything by her is really good...but that is me... On an Enigma note, I also found my Limited Edition MCMXCAD at Blockbuster Music. They can find a lot of things if you ask them, but my favorite place is still CDNow on the WWW. They take a while, but can get a lot of Enigma and similar stuff. Peace, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:21:57 -0700 From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Salutations all :) > >I was in a Card Store the other day and they had this awsome music on!! >I started asking all the store clerks (don't worry I knew them) who was >playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) Well the next thing I knew I was in a >music store looking for her CD's...and i found Two...but I'm on a very >limited budget and before I go out and buy one I was wondering if anyone >has heard of her and which CD would be better to buy?? Thanks in advance >for any information :) Hello Karen, You'll enjoy "all" of Enya's Albums!!!!! Her music is magical!!!!! My favorite album of her's is:*Shephard Moon*. All of the songs whisper connotations of wondrous Fairy Tales. I especailly adore the song "Marble Halls". It is a very flowing and romantic song. Happy Listening!!!! Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:34:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Dixon Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Karen Sullivan wrote: > Salutations all :) > > I was in a Card Store the other day and they had this awsome music on!! > I started asking all the store clerks (don't worry I knew them) who was > playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) Well the next thing I knew I was in a > music store looking for her CD's...and i found Two...but I'm on a very > limited budget and before I go out and buy one I was wondering if anyone > has heard of her and which CD would be better to buy?? Thanks in advance > for any information :) > > Plus on Much Music the other day they had a little thingy on Deep > Forest. They interviewed the two (what I believe to be) composers of the > music...it was a real cool interview and I was wondering if anybody else > saw it...because from what I've been reading on the list, it's sounds > like they only did a couple of songs on the Strange Days sound trak but > on the interview they said that who ever the producers where came to them > and asked them to do the entire score!! What's with this?? Did anybody > else see this?? Does anybody have the sound trak and know for sure?? > > Anyways just wondering!! > > Karen Sullivan | "Korman's conclusion: > IRC - Lupins | The trouble with resisting temptation is it may > R7NM@UNB.CA | never come your way again." > > > > > > > > Karen, I have both ENYA cd's, they are great. They sound somewhat like CLANNAD, (the volkswagen commercials from yesteryear!). I believe you may remember "sail away" or other wise known as "Ornico Flow". She was the one who did that. 'Shepard Moons' is ok, but the other one is better in my opinion. The Title just escaped me! sorry. Anyway - try to get it, its worth it Later Alex digimess@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Dixon Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Alex- I told karen the same thing about enya Included a blurb about clannad too But i recommended Watermark later ALEX DIXON digimess@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 13:34:32 EDT From: BWISE51@maine.maine.edu Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi! Enya is awesome, all 3 CD's are really good. The first one doesn't have many songs with lyrics (in english, that is) and is very very good. (It's called "The Celts") The second, entitled "Shepherd Moons" is also very good and contains tracks with more English lyrics. The third is called "Watermark" and is super...It has the song from the "Crystal Ice" commercial, "sail away, sail away, sail away"....and some other good ones. It's a tough choice - if I were you, I'd start out with #1 and work your way up as soon as you get the money. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:04:49 -0700 (PDT) From: JHOSEL@cmcvax.mckenna.edu Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hey I'm new on the enigma mailing list. I got your message about Enya. She is very good. She has three cd's: watermark; shepard moons; and enya. All are excellent! My personal favorite is Watermark, but Shepard Moons is a close second. If you like her music you should also check out her sister: Clannad (sp?). They have very similar styles and they both have beautiful voices. I haven't heard anything about Deep Forest doing the score for strange days, but maybe they were asked to do it and only agreed to do the two songs. I wish I had seen the interview, it sounds really cool. I'll check into the soundtrack and get back to you if I discover anything. Later, Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:44:22 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Hmm, I never expected to hear of Enya discussed in this mailing list-- > good music, but not particularly Enigma like. HUH?? What are you talking about?? This song that I' heard was very Enigma like?? Was it Enya I was hearing?? Do you have any idea what song it would have been?? Anyways...if she isn't Enigma-like I'm sorry I didn't realize :( My most humblest apploges (sp?) to all member!! Karen Sullivan - R7NM@unb.ca Lupins on IRC - Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada... ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Quarks. Neutrinos. Mesons. All those damn Particles you can't see. *That's* what drove me to drink. But *now* I *can* see them!" Sidney Harris 1990 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 14:55:05 EDT From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ooh, now we're really branching away from Enigma. I offer my apologies if this gets people upset. I'm also willing to take this off-line. >I have both ENYA cd's, they are great. They sound somewhat like CLANNAD, >(the volkswagen commercials from yesteryear!). One of the reasons that Enya sounds sort of simlar to Clannad is that she use to be a part of Clannad, which is a familial group (the word clannad means family) consisting of her uncle Noel (use to be two uncles, Noel and Padraig), a couple of cousins, Cianan and Pol, and her older sister, Maire. Clannad is a group rooted in traditional Irish music which has branched out into into European rock. (One of their songs people might remember is "I will find you", which was a theme from the movie "Last of the Mohicans".) I am a strong proponent of Clannad and would be willing to to offer recommendations to anyone who is interested. As to Enya, she has pursued a heavily layered style of music. I remember an interview where she claimed that some of her songs had as many as 50 or 60 layered renditions placed on top of one another (she does all of the singing.) That gives her songs that hauntingly beautiful quality. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:26:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel D. Huckaby" Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just for the record. The first album of Enya's solo career ('85) was music from a BBC series and was self-titled. After Watermark ('88) and Shepherd Moons ('91), Enya was digitally remastered (it sounds better) and was rereleased with the title "The Celts" (which was and still is the first track). It came out (rerelease) in early summer 1995. Daniel Huckaby ddh9281@tam2000.tamu.edu Texas A&M University ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:27:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "The Silver-Flag Boy" Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > >I was in a Card Store the other day and they had this awsome music on!! > >I started asking all the store clerks (don't worry I knew them) who was > >playing...they told me ENYA (sp?) > > Hmm, I never expected to hear of Enya discussed in this mailing list-- > good music, but not particularly Enigma like. > Enya... soothing, hypnotic, sophisticated.. in that sense, yes, a bit like Enigma. Alex -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CGCE, 324 Holly Cross, Keele, Staffordshire, ST5 5JB u3a97@cc.keele.ac.uk If time travel were possible, we'd know about it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:50:59 -0500 From: jl@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (J. Li) Subject: Enya and more... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >HUH?? What are you talking about?? This song that I' heard was very >Enigma like?? Was it Enya I was hearing?? Do you have any idea what >song it would have been?? Anyways...if she isn't Enigma-like I'm sorry I >didn't realize :( My most humblest apploges (sp?) to all member!! Could Karen be referring to the NEW Enya that is coming out? The title of the CD is "The Memory of Trees" (could be wrong), which should be here anytime. Maybe she's one of the lucky people who have heard the new album. As far as I know, none of Enya's song are truly Enigma like. No dance beat, no chant, but may be somewhat ambient as in some of Enigma's songs. Her voice is truly magnificant though. Numerous chorus and overdubs make her voice extremely textured and a interesting effect. I would suggest Shephard Moons for the beginner, then watermark. The Celts (Enya) is not for anyone, and so is the works of Clannads. I have never really liked the latter two. For a more realistic discussion of Enya, go to the alt.music.enya (or alt.fan.enya) newsgroups. J. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:15:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Corey Daniel Leamon Subject: Enya and More... To: Enigma mailing list I just thought that I would add my own two cents to the subject for the fact that I am a big Enya fan and also because up until now, I have been extremely surprised that not many of us talk about her. All of what Carl states is true about her "ex" band, Clannad. She went solo with her first album "Enya" (an excellent album, track 12 Bodicea, can be heard on the end credits of the Stephen King movie Sleepwalkers). She then followed with "Watermark" and hit it big time. Her third album "Sheperd Moons" is an excellent album as well but in my humble opinion "Watermark" is the best. Recently she re-released her first album now entitled "The Celts" which is basically because I believe all of the songs on her first album were taken from the tv show, "The Celts". The only difference between "Enya" and "The Celts" however, is new cover artwork, a remastered version of track 8, Portrait, and the album's name. As far as Clannad is concerned, I too would recommend this band if you enjoy music from Enya and/or Enigma. I would highly recommend their latest album "Banba" which contains the theme from the movie "The Last of the Mohicans" entitled "I Will Find You". And in case anyone missed this earlier stated fact, Enya's sister sings for Clannad now. Also, look for their new album coming in a few months entitled "Love". Okay, one more thing, I have to disagree with the statement in which someone said that Enya and Enigma are not alike. I think they are a lot alike (might as well throw Clannad into this as well) in that they all have enchanting female vocalists with mesmerizing voices, they have multiple layered tracks of underlying music, and they make the best use of both live and synthesized instruments, music, and sounds throughout their songs. I enjoy all three bands greatly and would recommend them to all. Until next time... Corey/Draven ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 03:52:52 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have a most incredible Enya CD...it's a Christmas one...Silent Night sung by Enya is almost like the angels themselves. Get it!!! Peace and love to you! JOHN INGRAM - MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA USA ********************************************************************* www.betterbagel.com - personal home page www.betterbagel.com/bbi.html - professional home page ****************************************************************** As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. ~ Nelson Mandela, 1994 Inaugural Speech ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:03:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Echols Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 26 Oct 1995, John G. Ingram wrote: > I have a most incredible Enya CD...it's a Christmas one...Silent Night sung > by Enya is almost like the angels themselves. Get it!!! > I AGREE!! This CD is AWESOME!! - ME ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 23:16:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I agree with Rachelle Hamblin (rachelle@amug.org) that you will enjoy all of Enya's albums. She is a very talented musician. Zokakon jeffrey2@muvms6.mu.wvnet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 23:18:27 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: Expressions... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au *My Favorite Enigma Moments* -Expressions of Dance & Love- I have many favorite Enigma Moments. However, I would have to say that *DANCING* to Enigma is "THE BEST". I love the artistic expressions and hot passionate feelings that I feel when I'm dancing. The most romantic Enigma moment of mine: "Slow dancing outside under the moonlight. The only evident light was that of the moon, the stars, and the alluring Twinkle in His Eyes." The setting and the mood was so very Romantic. We held eachother tightly, and wished upon the stars above that the night would never end..........Sigh......... I am captivated by Enigma's beautiful music!!!!!! The power of there music is remarkable!!!! Sweet Dreams Everyone!!!!! Never forget to "Keep Smiling"!!!!!! Our Lives can be rich with special moments. We just need to reach out and touch them. With Love, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA P.S. I have had many of you E-mail me asking me what my E-mail address angelmac@amug.org means: Well, I adore and collect angels (or cherubs). They are a beautiful symbol of Love and Tranquility, and they are so adoreable. I also, work as Secretary at a Macintosh User's group. So I put two and two together (two is always better than one-Smile!) and I came up with= angelmac@=at=amug (Arizona Macintosh User's Group, where I work) .org.=Organization. Great don't you think? And I bet you all didn't think that a Blonde could think of such a brilliant E-Mail Address. Boy did I prove you wrong!!!:) Smiles and more Smiles! - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 10:32:02 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: fading shades release info To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, since some of the German members asked me about the original German text version of the Fading Shades release info, and since I've got my own homepage now I typed it out and placed it there: Fading shades release info, German text : http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/artists/sandra/shadesdu.htm Fading shades release info, English text : http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/artists/sandra/shadesuk.htm Some other articles will be placed soon. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 95 18:15:17 EST From: deviant@digitals.com Subject: Fav ENigma Moment To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au My favorite Enigma Moment is when: WEll I wen't to this bar, and saw this guy dancing there, He seemed to really get into the music, then what else did the Dj start spinning but the Principles of lust (omen remix). The guy i was Watching became Emotional with the music, I thought to myself I must meet this guy, i did i wen't over to him and danced with him, i got the nerve enough to get his number(plus i was drunk out of my mind). Since then we have been dating exclusively for the past five months, i am a very happy camper thnaks to The Principles of Lust! Ok thanks |) Who Loves ya Baby? Deviant ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 02:11:10 +0000 From: csil@hooked.net Subject: Favorite Enigma Moment To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello everyone - My favorite 'moment' happened about a month ago. I had some friends over one nightand I was spinning some really hard trance (I'm a little-known house dj). Anyway, I was really getting into itand so was everyone else. Well, I threw in this wicked remix of Age of Loneliness I have on a ltd. edition picture disc. It is one of the hardest mixes of Enigma that I have. My friends went nuts! They had no clue that there was a hard trance mix of any Enigma song. The Jam & Spoon remix of Age of Loneliness is VERY good, but it is too slow to throw in a mix. Well anyway, it was just priceless to see the looks on their faces when they realized that it was Enigma. Has anyone heard it by chance? To put it succinctly, it kicks ass!!! Have fun!!! 8P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adam N. Cimand" Subject: Favorite Enigma Moment To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 5 Oct 1995 csil@hooked.net wrote: > Hello everyone - > > My favorite 'moment' happened about a month ago. I had some friends ... Well, my favorite Enigma moment is the chorus moment in "The Eyes of Truth" track on Enigma 2 (a.k.a. The Cross Of Changes). Just beautiful. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:21:02 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Favorite Enigma Moment... To: Enigma List Hi again All :) I was just wondering if any of you have a favorite Enigma moment.. I'll share mine just to give an example... I was at a band camp for 10 days and it was my last night there...I was staying in the dorms on the campus of the university...well the dorm I was staying just so happened to have a racket ball court in the basement...It was sooo cool, it had no windows at all, and completely undergound, and of course a great accustic room ;) So I snuck down at around 2:00 am with my tape-deck and in my lion King jammies, and blared (no one could here) Return to Innocence (at that point the only Enigma song in my collection). My bestfriend watched and laughed as I danced around this big empty room just enjoying and REALLY feeling the music...and she even has a picture to prove I did this ;) Well that's my favorite Engima moment...does anybody else have any?? (or am I just weird) Karen Sullivan | "You can only be young once... IRC - Lupins | BUT you can be immature forever !!!" R7NM@UNB.CA | - my cousin Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:08:22 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Favorite Enigma Moment... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, and to this question... Well Enigma gives me great memories, because when I first heard it, In Penticton, BC, Canada. I just LOVED it. Well at that time I didn't have any money so, I couldn't buy MCMXCad, although I tried to get my parents to buy it, but anyways, I qualified there for the Canadian Nationals and when I went over there, my parents gave me 25 bucks, so I blew the lot on MCMXCad and Cross of Changes, from that point on, We listened to it in our rental car, every where we went, my coach wanted to here them so that she knew what one she needed, so she enjoyed it, and so did my teamate. But the stereo in that car was AWESOME, everytime my teamate wanted to empress some guys, she blare it. So Cool, but there are some sad parts to it too, like there was the song, oh gees, the one with the horse noises (clip clop) but that always reminds me of how I didn't may the Olympic Team :( But enough with the sappyness. Overall I loved it, so many things to remember, Dream of the Dolphin-Watching the horses beat to the music, Blaring Return to Innocence outside the most descusting motel I've ever seen... Those were the days :) |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 01:02:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Joel Hart Subject: Flowers Become Screens Maxi-CD To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (enigma) --Quoting: quadrig@ibm.net >the original "Flowers Become Screens"-Maxi-CD-release. >Here is the track-listing: >1- 3:35 Incantation (Radio Edit) >2- 4:22 Flowers Become Screens (Radio Edit) >3- 7:57 Flowers Become Screens (Frequency Modulation Mix) >4- 5:34 Flowers Become Screens (Return To Babylon-Mix) >If there are different tracks, a track-listing would be great... --Quoting: SKESSLER@aol.com >My US release CD has the following tracks: >1 Edit >2 Frequency Modulation Mix >3 Return To Babylon Mix >4 12" Mix/Edit Well, I have apparently have the same release as SKessler, but let it be known that track 4 (the 12" Mix/Edit) is not "Flowers Become Screens", but rather a track of "Incantation" otherwise my first three tracks match your last three. --- Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: paulb@osiris (Paul Bournival) Subject: Gavin's role To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Ok. I've been quiet thru all this, but this is enough. Keep reading.. I have included some mandatory Enigma material below. Once upon another reality, Romany7777 wrote: | | This is the Goddess of Enigma. I have been very disappointed in the way | you have handled (or disregarded) the situation that has been disturbing | all of the readers on the list. While you have the ability to unsub those | individuals that are definitely disrupting the list, you have decided to | sit back and watch the list go bizzark. That is the correct behavior for the list manager. If he does respond to such requests, then those people who unsubscribe in this way will not have learned the correct way to unsubscribe. Instead, it is proper to point out the correct way, and let them do it themselves. Once people learn they can unsubscribe by broadcasting to the list, then *everyone* will do it (especially if they make enough noise) and the traffic will be pathetic. Gavin, just hang in there and these jerks will get tired. You're doing the right thing. In the mean time, all you 'poor poor people' who just cannot stand a little flamage now and then, sit down and be quiet. It will go away soon enough. This *IS* the Public Internet, host of the most Flamage of all the networks out there. Grow up and deal with it. In any case, broadcasting to the entire list is improper. (As I'm doing now. But there's an ObEnigma at the bottom, so I'm okay... :^) | Most poeple who unsubscribed are | mostly confused with the management and the content in this list | recently. Since you have mismanaged the list, those individuals, If they are confused, it is their fault. There are *PLENTY* of books available in every bookstore on the operation of Internet software, and the instructions are broadcast to every person when they sign up via email. Gavin used to regularly mention in his posts that people are NOT to post unsubscribe messages to the list. And people still do it. {sigh}. If they cannot behave responsibly or understand basic list management concepts, then they shouldn't be here in the first place. But perhaps a bad experience on a mailing list will make them think twice before subscribing again. So, I say let them scream for a while.. and repeatedly tell them how to unsubscribe. They'll figure it out, and perhaps things will be better for the next mailing list they subscribe to (if they ever decide to do it again, Neteru forbid.) ====================================================================== OK, Now some Enigma stuff.. (I sent this out earlier, but it appears that it didn't make it to the listserv) One of the most frequent topics on this list is Enigma-like music. People post now and then "try this project/group.. you'll love it if you like Enigma!" I've met with mixed success doing so (Delerium: love it!! B-Tribe: so-so). I'd like to (either see the creation of or assist in creating) a set of web pages that more concisely describe Enigma-like music. (I have some web space to spare if Gavin or anyone else can't/doesn't want to/is unavailable/ to work on it.) It would at least be a static place for people to refer to similar music, rather than trying to catch a message from this list. How would we quantify Enigma music? Well, my votes would be: Solid bass beat Gregorian (and other) chants Small amounts of speech (possibly in other languages than English) A rich, seductive, feminine voice Connected (logically and/or physically) songs, forming a theme for the disk. And most of all, a good quantity of Enigma (i.e., mystery) etc. etc. You know why you like Enigma. For each group that's like Enigma, we could say exactly *why* we thought so. (like rate each qualification on a scale from 1-10). Then, when you're in the mood for new music, refer to the pages and see if any groups fit the things *you* like about Enigma. How to do it? Well, get everyone to mail the creator of these pages what they like about Enigma. Then when we have a good set of qualifications, everyone can use the rules to rate their own collection, add their own comments, and mail them in. Anyone think that launching the "Mysterious Music Web Pages" is a good idea? -paulb ======================================================================== paulb@faxint.com Network Software Development Enigeer paulb@world.std.com paulb@shore.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 16:11:32 GMT From: cowboy1@cowboy1.microserve.com (Dennis Bobo) Subject: Gavin's role To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >One of the most frequent topics on this list is Enigma-like music. >People post now and then "try this project/group.. you'll love it if you >like Enigma!" > >I've met with mixed success doing so (Delerium: love it!! B-Tribe: so-so). >I'd like to (either see the creation of or assist in creating) a set of >web pages that more concisely describe Enigma-like music. (I have some >web space to spare if Gavin or anyone else can't/doesn't want to/is >unavailable/ to work on it.) > >It would at least be a static place for people to refer to similar music, >rather than trying to catch a message from this list. > >How would we quantify Enigma music? Well, my votes would be: > Hi! When I was in high school, the Catholic church was going through some turmoil, because many people thought that the mass was too static. Too ceremonial. The priest faced away from the congregation. They tried guitars, and folk songs to liven things up. I bought an album back then of an African interpretation of the mass. It was called "The Misa Luba". I was stunned by the beauty of the music. I would consider that effort as Enigma like. Just this past summer I went to a county fair around here and there was a group of native americans performing informally, with pan flutes of various sizes and a guitar. They also had an Enigma like flavor. I don't know how we can categorize groups into Enigma like music or not. It's a good idea but from what I've learned here in this group is that there are many, many groups that provide this soothing, beautiful type of music. Good idea, though. Gotta find some Gothic Voices and Sequentia music to try out. Peace. the cowboy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:56:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Got a question for yall... To: Enigma Fan Club Ok Enigma experts, I expect either a personal reply or Club reply to this: I stumbled into a CD store and picked up two CD's nobody has mentioned around here: 1) Michael Cretu - The Invisible Man - 1985 Virgin Schallplatten Records 2) Cretu & Theirs - Belle Epoch - 1988 Virgin Schallplatten Records These CD's were VERY expensive, and in college student $, I really couldn't afford them... But, I bought them anyway, and before I open them, I want to know what is on them, because I have 30 days to return them to the store... Are they good? Worth keeping? Typical GREAT Enigma music? Please, I am DYING to know, please send some info... LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 01:45:31 +0100 From: antje.kuechler@mb2.tu-chemnitz.de (Inge) Subject: Got a question for yall... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > >Ok Enigma experts, I expect either a personal reply or Club reply to this: > >I stumbled into a CD store and picked up two CD's nobody has mentioned >around here: > >1) Michael Cretu - The Invisible Man - 1985 Virgin Schallplatten Records >2) Cretu & Theirs - Belle Epoch - 1988 Virgin Schallplatten Records > >These CD's were VERY expensive, and in college student $, I really >couldn't afford them... > >But, I bought them anyway, and before I open them, I want to know what is >on them, because I have 30 days to return them to the store... > >Are they good? Worth keeping? Typical GREAT Enigma music? > >Please, I am DYING to know, please send some info... > > LJR I > If you're a friend of European disco music of the 80's then both CD's are a must have. But they're not typical Enigma music. I could make some sound files with some cuts from "The Invisible Man" for you. Then you know for sure if you want to keep it or not. For more details send mail to me in personal. Regards, INGE _______________________________________ | | E-Mail: | "But the angels of passion | antje.kuechler@mb2.tu-chemnitz.de Still taunt me, in my sleep | They keep throwing petals and thorns | Underneath my feet" | | VAYA CON DIOS | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:24:21 -0400 From: HokeyFX@aol.com Subject: Got a question for yall... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au <> I have "The Invisable Man" CD by Cretu. It's less imaginative than current Enigma standards, but a careful listen shows some of Cretu's evolving compositional style. A few tracks have instrumental arrangements similar to MCMXC. Most tracks have Cretu vocals (IMHO, his vocals are weak and shouldn't be an integral part of any arrangement) and have a certain 80's pop/new wave quality. If you're looking for another MCMXC or CROSS... you might be disappointed with about 70% of "the Invisable Man." -Paul (HokeyFX) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:08:55 -0500 From: jl@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (J. Li) Subject: Gregorian To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au There are a number of people on this list who have heard the cd "Sadisfaction" by Gregorian. The brain child behind this album is F. Gregorian (Frank Peterson). My question is, how influential was Frank Peterson in Engima MCMXC ad? Obviously he was into the Gregorian Chant, and hence the name F. Gregorian. He also co-wrote the song Sadeness. What would MCMXC ad be if he was not involved? Was that part of the reason why gregorian chants were no longer featured in Enigma II (besides the fact that it is just a new beginning)? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 17:35:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Philip Jon Shipley" Subject: Gregorian To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (IntrotoEnigma) Several people mention Gregorian and "Sadisfaction" Where can I find it?? Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 03:17:53 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: Gregorian To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au At 5:35 PM 10/19/95, Philip Jon Shipley wrote: >Several people mention Gregorian and "Sadisfaction" Where can I find it?? > >Phil Good luck! I've been searching for several years and still don't have the CD. Peace and love to you! JOHN INGRAM - MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA USA ********************************************************************* www.betterbagel.com - personal home page www.betterbagel.com/bbi.html - professional home page ****************************************************************** As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. ~ Nelson Mandela, 1994 Inaugural Speech ------------------------------ Date: 20 Oct 1995 09:54:45 -0600 From: "Sam Spink" Subject: Gregorian Question To: "Enigma" Texas A&M University Department of Food Services Agronomy Rd, College Station, TX 77843-1374 409-862-2014, Fax 845-2157 Gregorian Question 10/20/95 9:41 AM I went into a local record sotre last night and they have a pretty extensive database of artists and albums. I was unable to locate anything by the artist Gregorian. Am I incorrect on what I am looking for? By the way, the song "Once in a Lifetime" wasn't the tune I was looking for. But it was close. I am wondering if the same title by Gregorian is the song I am looking for. Sam Spink s-spink@tamu.edu Computer Systems Manager ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 9:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: Gregorian Question To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'm not sure about this, but if you connect to "German Music Express" (point your web brouser to: telnet://199.35.15.200) and search for CD's with the title "sadeness", you find Enigma's "Sadeness Part 1" (of course) and a Various artists "Sadeness and Other Gregorian Mysteries". Is this the same as "Sadisfaction"? I'm guessing that it is, but can someone confirm before i shell out the big bucks? claudio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:23:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Nguyen Subject: Gregorian Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Gregorian Question 10/20/95 9:41 AM > > I went into a local record sotre last night and they have a pretty extensive > database of artists and albums. I was unable to locate anything by the artist > Gregorian. Am I incorrect on what I am looking for? By the way, the song > "Once in a Lifetime" wasn't the tune I was looking for. But it was close. I > am wondering if the same title by Gregorian is the song I am looking for. dude, you're not gonna find anything by Gregorian in any database as far as i know of, especially at A&M (since i used to go there and tried to find them there myself). I've tried doing searches with 'So Sad' and 'Once in a Lifetime' but it always spit back some wierd artists, with the exception of Sarah's once in a lifetime. There are really just about 3 tracks on the album that i like anyways, but it's an album that any chant lover should have. Your best bet is to go to an import store. Or that Cd place next to where 'condom station' used to be...ask them to look it up in their computers and special order it. if anyone does find any info on gregorian, please let me know!! :) later. -Paul Nguyen st8av@bayou.uh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:06:51 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Gregorian Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. Paul wrote: > dude, you're not gonna find anything by Gregorian in any database > as far as i know of, especially at A&M (since i used to go there and > tried to find them there myself). I've tried doing searches with 'So > Sad' and 'Once in a Lifetime' but it always spit back some wierd artists, > with the exception of Sarah's once in a lifetime. There are really just > about 3 tracks on the album that i like anyways, but it's an album that > any chant lover should have. Your best bet is to go to an import store. > Or that Cd place next to where 'condom station' used to be...ask them to > look it up in their computers and special order it. > if anyone does find any info on gregorian, please let me know!! :) > later. I picked it up from a fantastic import store here in Melbourne (yes all the way down here in Australia!) so can at least provide some details: Cover: Pink background with 2 girls merged together at the stomach - one faces up, the other down. Around the picture of these 2 girls is Gregorian, one going clockwise around the girl facing up; the other around the girl facing down. Record Label: Metronome Music GmbH (Hamburg) Reference #: 849 378-2 (CD) Year: 1991 I hope this helps when ordering or trying to find it! Cheers, Gavin "slightly hungover!" Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** > > -Paul Nguyen > st8av@bayou.uh.edu > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:08:52 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Gregorian Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. You wrote: > I'm not sure about this, but if you connect to "German Music Express" > (point your web brouser to: telnet://199.35.15.200) and search for > CD's with the title "sadeness", you find Enigma's "Sadeness Part 1" > (of course) and a Various artists "Sadeness and Other Gregorian > Mysteries". > > Is this the same as "Sadisfaction"? I'm guessing that it is, but > can someone confirm before i shell out the big bucks? No it's not. Sadisfaction is a CD by an artist known as Gregorian (who happened to help Enigma on its first album). "Sadness and Other Gregorian Mysteries" is a compilation of various artists whose music sounds a bit like Enigma because it is a mixture of Gregorian chant and electronic music - the CD features a "cover version" of Enigma's "Sadeness part 1". I didn't mind the CD but wouldn't shell out big bucks for it. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:42:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel D. Huckaby" Subject: Gregorian style To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au When I was in Europe in 1991, Mea Culpa and Sadeness were both on the French Top 50 TV show each week for half-a-year. I also noticed one week this particular TV show (which only played one out of about 8 songs) played a song from a woman soloist. It wasn`t Enigma, but I would've thought it was an outright copy if it hadn't have been out at exactly the same time. It was only barely in the Top 40 if that, but would anyone know the artist of which I'm speaking? I don't remember the name, but I would guess that someone on this list might like her music, someone with synth-beat, Gregorian chants, and a soft surreal voice. All I remember about the video is her swinging on a swing (in a churchyard, perhaps). I believe it was a new artist at the time (Spring-Summer 1991). Anyone? Daniel Huckaby ddh9281@tam2000.tamu.edu Texas A&M University ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 18:02:00 GMT From: "N.W.Kay -Nick Kay" Subject: Hello To: Enigma This is Nik, I am 23, been into enigma since 91, Collection incl.:- Sadness Pt 1 - 12" Mea Culpa - 12" MCMXC a.d. Limited Edition - CD The Cross of Changes - CD The Cross of Changes Special Limited Edition - CD Return to Innocence - CD Age of Loneliness - CD I first heard enigma on a radio in a dept store (Radio Show or somthing) Other Groups: Praise, Future sound of London, Sacred Spirit Currently I am working for the Open University (Manchester) UK and have been here 5 years too long. Post: Information Technologist I know the above sounds like a CV but I'm not very good with introducing myself via a keyboard ............ know what I mean. Laters Nik! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 21:10:31 -0400 From: khorwitz@student.umass.edu Subject: Hello... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >From one fan of Enigma to another, I'm saying... hi!!! I haven't had this internet account for a that long and I've found Enigma (i know it's not that hard, but in between classes and stuff...) Well anyway... It said I should introduce myself... ya know... let ya know that I'm here... well... Name: Kevin Horwitz Age: 17 (Freshman at UMass Amherst) I just have the two Enigma tapes (now I'm cursing myself because about a month after I bought Cross of Changes I finally got a CD player... ho hum...) I first heard Enigma on the radio... liked it, never got around to buying it. Then one day, I was at Sam Goody, looking around and I saw the first Enigma tape (my mind is spinning... I don't remember the exact title, but you guys know what I'm talking about)... I decided, what the hell... I went out and got it... It's pretty much been my favorite music ever since... Other music... Tom Petty, Pink Floyd, Gin Blossoms... I'm an English major at UMASS Amherst (go Minutemen...) Hobbies: Japanese Anime and Pro-Wrestling (HA! Try and beat that one!) Favorite Enigma song: Return to Innocence) Well... gotta run... -Kevin P.S.: I know the dolphin thing in Enigma II was supposed to be about a shaman legend or something... maybe Michael's just covering up that he and Sandra are just really dolphins paying humanity back for saving their behinds in some underwater war... I dunno... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 16:45:37 -0400 (EDT) From: RMAZA1@vaxc.hofstra.edu Subject: Hello everyone To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello there everybody, My name is Rich Maza and I've joined this little group of yours about a week ago, s I figured it was about time I write in and tell my life story to anyone who cares. I first heard Enigma years ago on mtv with the video sadeness, and like a lot of people, didn't know who they were. A friend and I searched for a couple of years until one day he called me and told me that while flipping through the channels, he heard the music we had been looking for. He watched whatever movie it was(I still don't know and neither does he) until the credits and the next day we went out and bought the album. I've been a really big fan ever since. Why, when the cross of changes came out, we risked our lives in a crazy blizzard just to get to the store to buy it. I have turned many of my friends onto Enigma and I myself am also looking for more stuff that compares. I also like Deep Forest, but it just isn't the same to me. Here's something someone might feel is important. I have a tv shop on public access all over the place which deals mainly in music. I myself listen to all kinds of music, such as pop, rock, hard rock, heavy metal, classical, and anything else but country. The show is basically more heavy oriented but it's not stuck there. I have had many interviews with lots of different bands and lots of different people on many different subjects. Also, I am trying to get my show on all over the country, so if anyone can help me out, email me and let me know. I need names and contact phone #'s of people in charge of public access studio's everywhere. Oh yeah, I almost forgot to tell you the name of the show. It's called The Warlock's Domain. It's name stems from a long story and I don't want to get into it now. A little more about myself, I am currently 21 years old and attending Hofstra University in Hempstead, NY. That's long Island for anyone who doesn't know. I transfered here this semester from upstate NY, where I live in a small town called Ellenville, NY. Well that's probably all I should say for now. Like I said, if anyone is interested in helping me or just want more info on my show, just email me. Talk to ya soon, Rich Maza The Mighty Warlock email= RMAZA1@HOFSTRA.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:23:25 +0000 From: Louis Savard Subject: Homework To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello Enigma fans, My name is Louis Savard, I'm 21 years old and I live in the Great Province of Quebec. I own MCMXC A.D., The Cross of Changes, The Cross of Changes Lim.Ed and the Return to Innocence single. I first heard of Enigma on TV, Musique Plus precisely. It's the Quebec version of MTV. I love the music of Enigma. It's the greatest of all. I also like Deep Forest, I have the eponym album (Deep Forest) and Boheme. I'm a student of psychology at the Universite du Quebec a Chicoutimi and I worked for 2 years and a half at a music store, where I discovered Deep Forest. Till next time Louis Savard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:12:28 -0400 From: lucas@InterLink.NET (Marty Lucas) Subject: Homework To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > My name is Louis Savard, I'm 21 years old and I live in the Great >Province of Quebec. I own MCMXC A.D., The Cross of Changes, The Hello Louis ! Welcome aboard the Enigma Mailing list! Just wanted to let you know that "tu n'es pas le seul Quebecois" on the list! I live in Montreal and have been a member of this list for some few months now. You will enjoy it ! The Enigma information that we get from here is priceless... Gavin - Keep up the good work! Marty Lucas lucas@interlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:55:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Howdy guys!! To: Enigma Fan Club I would like to send a warm: "Howdy from Texas A&M University at College Station, Tx" My name is Lamar Romero and i'll be 20 in a week. My Enigma collection consists of "1" and "2". I think I first heard Enigma when I was listening to the radio one day, and hearing my dad commit on "church music on the radio". When brought up to a friend, he said he liked it for the "bass", but would sell me it if I really liked it. I loved it. The music is so powerful and erotic, to me at least. It sounds good loud, soft, hard, or easy (all references to "Sadeness"). I can party, sleep, talk, dance, study, and almost everything else to sounds of Sadeness, which is by far my most favorite selection. Other artists...hmmm. I love and thrive on music, and listen to everything from rap to rock to country. I am a C&W dance instructor, and emotionally thrive on dancing. However, not many people know about Enigma or care as much as I do where I am from, I always seem to be the "enlightener of Enigma". I am very anxoius to experiment with the other "Enigma" groups I keep reading about on the WWW. Delerium, Anglel, etc. I can not see how anything can compare to Enigma, which is on my top 5 list of artists, probably at #1... I am studying Industrial Distribution over here. It is a hybrid Engineering degree with alot of business, marketing, and management skills. I also work part time as a bartender at the "Dixie Chicken", a bar famous for selling more beer per square foot of bar space than any other bar in the world. Pretty impressive to some, stupid to others I am sure... I hope this is not too long and boring. I would like anyone and everyone who receives this to feel free in contacting me for anything. I also hope I can fall in align with the group. I guess now I have questions that anyone can answer, and like I said again, anyone may write me, I have no prejudices... Is there more Enigma music out there that I have not yet heard that is not on "1" and "2"? What kind of merchandise for Enigma is there to buy or sell?... Is there limited copies of McM..."1", because I can't seem to hardly find any for sell anywhere? Am I babbling? Thank you to all!! Anyone from Texas out there, you be damn sure to write me!!! :) Lamar James Romero I (LJR I) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 09:58:48 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: How to Put This Delicately... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > >But for not only those of us who lead busy lives (and who listen to Enigma, >et.al. to give us some peace), but for I suspect a large number of list >subscribers, can we all think twice before posting drivel to the list? It >takes a lot of time to sift through it all sometimes. > >Since most postings identify the original sender, one suggestion would be to >send "personal" responses directly to the sender, bypassing the >"Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au" list server, and therefore sparing the rest of >us. > >I'm in the business of facilitating discussion (in the context of >organizational learning), so I know what discussion is all about, and I don't >want to squelch it here. I just want to suggest we all use a wee bit more >common sense before we hit that "Send" button. > >If a particular horse is dead, no need to kick it again. Find something else >to talk about. > Dear One, I understand what you mean. However, I myself enjoy reading the many discussion messages. Some of them are really quite funny. Even the discussions likened to the "Energizer Bunny" effect. The SUBJECT: indicates whether or not the message is a reply. So all one needs to do if they do not wish to read reply's or become part of a discussion is- delete and clear them. One does not have to read what he or she does not want to. I apologize for having probably been one of those "personal" responders that you do not appreciate. When I am responding, I really do try to use common sense. Anyway, I do hope you realize that the messages aren't intended to make anyone annoyed. Have a nice weekend!!!!!! I will keep in mind your request. As I do not want to upset anyone. Be Happy!!!!!!!! Life is really Wonderful!!!!!! Sincerely, Rachelle L. Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 19:10:18 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Hubert KaH (ctd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au As promised recently, here is the rest of the details about the latest Hubert KaH single, once again with thanks to Razvan Verzeanu: > The music for C'est la vie was written by Hubert Kemmler & Dietmar Kawohl. > Lyrics: Susanne Kemmler. > Producer: Armand Volker. > Other musicians involved: Kristian Schultze, Walter Keiser, Hermann > Weindorf & the Vienna Symphonic Orchestra. > Female vocals: Susanne Kemmler. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 03:37:37 -0400 From: aikman@onramp.net (Lance Lancaster) Subject: Hubert Kah, and a couple others... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I just recently joined this discussion primarily because of the mention of the band Hubert Kah and my desperation to find out anything and everything about what's happened to the other members of Hubert Kah (other than Cretu). If anyone has a faq, a cd, or anything by the band I will pay for anything and everything related. Just for your information I already have Tensongs, Goldene Zeiten, Sound of My Heart and Best of Dance Hits. There is one other full-length album that I cannot track down anywhere in the Dallas-area import stores, nor can I longer find any cd-singles from the band. I hope to find another die-hard fan, as I have yet to find anyone as in love with their music as I am, I feel it is under-appreciated music that should not be so hard to find! Anyways, if you have any information, please email me at aikman@onramp.net, I'd love to talk about the band. Lance Lance Lancaster a.k.a. "Aikman" Moderator Specialist IVS Corporation DWANGO - The ULTIMATE High-Speed Multi-Player Gaming Network ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:43:31 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Hubert KaH / Abusive messages To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. Here's some information passed on to me by Razvan Verzeanu: > The Hubert Kah single " C'est la vie " was released in March 1995 by Polydor > and contains the following songs : > C'est la vie 3:55 > C'est la vie-The whole life 4:30 > C'est la vie-Inner Vision 4:09 > C'est la vie-Phantoms in my head 4:30 I am in the process of trying to establish whether Michael Cretu had any involvement. *** On other matters, I have now written official letters of complaint to the system administrators of posters of abusive messages to this mailing list and am in the process of trying to get them banned from sending messages to us. As it stands you do not have to be subscribed to this list in order to send a message. I encourage you all NOT to respond to any abusie postings - as people have already stated, people get off on it! *grin* Regards, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:22:26 -0700 (PDT) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: Humpe & Brucken? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Speaking of Sandra-a-likes... Does anyone know if there's anything new coming from either of the Humpe sisters or from Claudia Brucken? claudio ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 14:23:10 -0700 From: severo@pacificnet.net (severino ramos) Subject: Humpe & Brucken? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'm also waiting for something new from Inga and Anette I got their Swiming With the Sharks album and is Great! I hope they put out something soon. By the way "Claudio, voce e' Brasileiro ou Portugues? >Speaking of Sandra-a-likes... > >Does anyone know if there's anything new coming from either >of the Humpe sisters or from Claudia Brucken? > >claudio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:05:59 CET From: "Grebenar Robert" Subject: Hungarian music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Just to let you lot know I can occaisionally be serious (*yawn*, *yawn* - I know) thanks a lot for the Marta info Grebenar, I've got a couple of questions though... > > 1. You say she sings in Transylvanian. As I understood it (and my knowledge of E. European geography ain't fully comprehensive), there _is_ no Transylvania. Is the language she sings in from Romania, Moldova, Hungary, or did you mean she sings in an old dialect? Or is the nationalist feeling over there so strong that you consider yourself to be Transylvanian? (I say this because you see to understand what she says and I can't really imagine anyone _not_ from the Transylvanian region being able t Marta's nationality is Hungarian. On the album she sings in Hungarian language, but with an old dialect. The songs (that she sigs) are Hungarian folk songs and Transsilvanian folk songs. Trassylvania was a part of Hungary (till Trianon (1919 hmm?)) and now there are differrences between the Hungarian languages spoken in Hungary and in Romania by the people whose nationality is Hungarian, but now they live in Romania (they did'n want to move from their places when Hungary "lost" Transsylvania). So I want to tell that there are categorias of folk songs like "Dunantuli" (left part of Hungary from Danube) folk songs, Transsylvanian folk songs, etc... But their common language is Hungarian - with not the same dialect. Do you understand me ? I want to tell you the lyrics of Marta's song, but there are still lines that i am not able to understand because of the dialect. > 2. Anyone know where I can get Hungarian rock music from? No-one say Hungary please....*grin* I can suggest you some good music: OMEGA - Very very famous group. MY FAVURITE ! They formed in 1969, and now they are sill active and they have 14 albums. When SCORPIONS (the german rock group) formed, they played before OMEGA !!!! OMEGA released and album about in 1970 in England, called RED STAR (hmm!!!). It's not available now. This group could have at least 20 world hits if there was not that stupid political system (they was not allowed to do tours abroad, etc...). But now SCORPIONS released a single White Dough, whats original version is the most beautiful Hungarian song (by OMEGA). Best albums: 10.000 lepes, Csillagok utjan, Gammapolis, Az arc, A Fold arnyekos oldalan EDDA - Popular group since 1982. They have got beautiful lyrical and rock songs. Their songs are good known, and their lyrical songs have very good lyrics. ISTVAN A KIRALY (Andrew the king) - Rock opera about our first king with (almost) all Hungarian rock stars. Featuring Sebestyen Marta HUNGARIA - Rock and roll band with over 30 very very good known r'n'r songs. They celebrated a nostalgia concert nowadays. Best albums: Rock and roll party, Hotel Menthol NAPOLEON BOULEVARD - Formed in 1986, split up in 89. The singer woman has got good voice. Their first 3 albums are fine ! (Napoleon BLD, 2, Julia nem akar a Foldon jarni) That's all. Hope it helped. I say sorry to the Enigma fans, it's not in connection with that. But perhaps anybody is interested... McRobert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:18:45 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: I'm Back To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just thought I'd say that I'm back on the Enigma mailing list. It's seems as though there was someone (I wonder who maybe Kevin that unsubscribed me??) so I'm back, and trying even harder to get the IRC #enigma-fan channel going, so if you have the time, come and join us (or me right now) It's lots of fun :) need any help? just email me! Remember, I'm LienKlaw. |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Well, I did it, don't "I get a treat?" "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and doesn't shit all over you when they fly by!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:22:21 From: PTellman@gnn.com (Steven Tellman) Subject: I'm sorta new To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, I've finally convinced myself to introduce myself. My name is Steve Tellman and I attend HS at De La Salle in Concord, Ca. In my Enigma collection I have "The Videos Part 1", Both US releases, a sweatshirt, and the Mea Culpa Single. My brother first introduced my to Enigma when he bought 1990 and I stole it from his room constantly. I like NIN, Deep Forest, U2, Pet Shop Boys, Xymox, KMFDM, and many others. Well, that's about it I think, if anyone wants to talk just give me a mail! Steve Tellman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:40:43 PDT From: ken clouser Subject: I'm sorta new To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, I've finally convinced myself to introduce myself. My name is Steve Tellman and I attend HS at De La Salle in Concord, Ca. In my Enigma collection I have "The Videos Part 1", Both US releases, a sweatshirt, and the Mea Culpa Single. My brother first introduced my to Enigma when he bought 1990 and I stole it from his room constantly. I like NIN, Deep Forest, U2, Pet Shop Boys, Xymox, KMFDM, and many others. Well, that's about it I think, if anyone wants to talk just give me a mail! Steve Tellman That was cool , I just borrowed a NIN CD from a girlfreind & I was listening to it as I was reading mail , hey do you like White Zombie or any other heavy bands? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:25:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Agresta Jr Subject: I could of sworn I heard ENIGMA... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Yesterday, I was listening to Tecnotronic's C.D, Recall, when I heard a little bit of the beginning of Enigma's song,"Out From The Deep". Also you hear it sometimes throughout the song. I don't remember what track it is, but when I do, I'll let you know. :-) I got to tell you, this Enigma Mailing List KICKS ASS!!! It's a great idea. I'm glad I joined. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 21:07:12 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Idea on IRC To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au First I'd like to say that a lot more people have been coming into #enigma-fan. Problem is now that we're scaterred out in different times, so we need to decide a time that we all meet. or maybe if more people are interested in joining IRC the'll be more chance of people meeting other people when they log on to IRC. But what this message is really about is that right now, there's usually only one person in the IRC channel. So what I thought of is if your program allows you to have more than 1 channel going at a time, open #enigma-fan and then if no one is in, then join another of your favorites, then if someone does come in, it is their job, to /msg the person that is in #enigma-fan, that way, we won't have to sit their looking at a boring empty window with just current users in channel: @LienKlaw, waiting for someone to enter, good idea? or what! :) BTW, We should also come up with a good topic for the channel, something that tells other users what #enigma-fan is, it is currently Welcome to the World of Enigma!, but I don't like it, any ideas? |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "Marie had a little RAM- about a Meg or so" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:47:21 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Inscription To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au One of these last letter had then inscription about If you believe in light, it's because of obscurity, etc. I know it's from the first album...but I cannot find that album with the inscription anywhere. Is it on any of the special edition ones, or is there some way of getting it? Thanks, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 15:43 PDT From: perryg@islandnet.com (Gregg Perry/Pilgrim Computer Resources) Subject: Inscription To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >One of these last letter had then inscription about If you believe in light, >it's because of obscurity, etc. I know it's from the first album...but I >cannot find that album with the inscription anywhere. Is it on any of the >special edition ones, or is there some way of getting it? >Thanks, >Jeremy > > > The inscription should be on the regular MCMXC a.D. album. It's on mine, anyway. Maybe someone else knows something more... Cathryn. email: perryg@islandnet.com 1817 St. Ann's Place, RR 5 Duncan, BC V9L 4T6 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:40:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Holly J. Primmar" Subject: Introduction To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, my name is Holly Primmar. I am a junior nursing major at Syracuse University. I just subscribed to this list after reading about it on the net. I am very excited about this list. I have been a fan of the music from Enigma for about four years. I love all the music on both CD's Iuse the music as a meditation tool or to lift up my energy. I especially love listening to track 2 (I don't recall the name) off the second album when I need a boost of energy, it's what gets me through college. I would love to here about the impact of Enigma's music on other peoples' lives. Thanks for sharing. Holly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:29:15 -0400 From: khorwitz@student.umass.edu Subject: Introduction To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au -Holly, Track 2 on tape 2? return to innocence? I love that song... it's by far my favorite... -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 16:51:00 DST From: Flemming Balvig Subject: Introduction To: Enigma Mailing List Hi! My name is Jens Jakob Balvig and I'm an 16 years old boy from Denmark. I have the following albums in my collection: - MCMXC a.D. The Limited Edition - Cross Of Changes - Cross Of Changes Special Edition - Soundtrack from the movie Sliver (If that counts as an Enigma album....) I first heard Return To Innocence on MTV, and thought i was great, so i got hold of the Cross Of Changes album, and from then on I've been an Enigma fan. Other artists i like are: Jean-Michel Jarre and (the almost inevitable) Deep Forest. I also compose Enigma-like music myself, and am looking for any "Ethnic" CD's which are good to sample from. If anyone knows of any, please let me know! Lastly i would like to ask if there are any Danish, or at least Scandinavian Enigma fans on this mailing list, who knows where you can get any singles from Enigma. Bye :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:53:43 -0700 (MST) From: "" Subject: Introduction To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I just joined the mailing list, so here's a bit about myself: My name is Andrew Hutton, I'm 18 years old and I live in Calgary, Canada. I have both MCMXC a.D. and The Cross of Changes, and love them both!! I first heard Enigma's music on MuchMusic (Canada's version of MTV) and my favourite Enigma track has got to be Mea Culpa (the version from the music video, not the CD. I believe it's called the Caltholic Mix, is that right?) Well I guess that's about it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 12:08:03 -0400 From: EnigmaServ@aol.com Subject: Introduction! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello fellow Enigma Fans, I have been sitting here quietly listening to all the interesting things people have been saying about Enigma and other similiar groups. My name is T. L. Rutter, i am 28 years old, Single and have enjoyed Enigma for some time. I was introduced to Enigma by my last girlfriend. She gave me her copy of a worn-out tape that she had copied from her girlfriend. The only title it had on it was "Enigma" and i really enjoyed it. It was very spiritual and uplifting. I immediately went to the store and bought the CD's , Enigma MCMXC a.D. and the CROSS of changes... Enigma 2 and made her fresh, new copies. This last month, after reading from fellow Enigmites, i went out and bought the international versions of the albums. Thank you, everybody, for enlightening me that these were available. I even went out and bought b-tribe (Suave, Suave) and loved that very, very much. I also listen to Pink Floyd, the DOORS, Kitaro, Oracle, Mikde Old Field, Carly Simon, Al Hirt, Pete Fountain, Boots Randolph, Roger Waters, Syd Barrett, and more. I work as a hands-on consultant in the manufacturing industry. Sometimes i do video productions, and have sat in on music productions, as well. In my spare time, i am director of a non-profit organization. I enjoy life here in Houston. There are a lot of alternative bands here, but none that could equal that of Enigma. Okay, there is one, but they sing other people's materials and i don't think that qualifies!!! :-) Warmest wishes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- |\/\/\/| | | | _ _> Dumb 'ole Margret in 1996 !!!!! | (o)(o) C _) | ,___| | -/ \\\/// T. L. Rutter.... /___\ ( oo ) EnigmaServ@aol.com -------------------------------------oOO--(__)--OOo--------------------------- ------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:19:03 -0400 From: TGSABruce@aol.com Subject: Introduction and request To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi folks, Let me take a minute and introduce myself, as I'm fairly new to the list. My name is Bruce Fischer, and I'm a psychologist in private practive and the Chair of the Human Services Dept. and the Graduate School of America based here in Minneapolis. It's great to hear everyones comments and share your passion for Enigma. What I most enjoy about the music is the unique mix of flesh and spirit reflected through the music. The trailer for The Scarley Letter is a great visual example of this and Enigma's music only adds to this. My interested in music runs from ambient to filmscores and includes some new age. Can someone tell me the best way to get a copy of special edition of the first album here in the US. If someone has an extra and wants to sell it, please e-mail me directly. Thanks, Bruce Fischer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:49:06 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well IRC is definately a cool side of the Net. I have been using it for a couple of months and have found from experience that it is nice to have several options of servers to go to, I know what Chris is talking about, I have three servers that I use, just in case the first one doesn't work, So if the iapp.netscape.com doesn't work hear are three more: irc.escape.com irc.ais.net irc.colorado.edu BTW, If any users have a Macintosh computer (like me) a good, probably the best is Homer, as you can tell I also know a bit about it, so if Chris gets a little busy, just email me :) |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:12:42 +0800 (HKT) From: Stephen Ho Subject: IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Can Anyone give me a good list of IRC server and channel to login to, pls? Thank you. *************************************************** * Stephen Ho * * Email: ie_hsc@stu.ust.hk * * WWW : http://susis.ust.hk/~sch/index.html * *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 17:03:21 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au for anyone else that wants some IRC servers here's a list (I use irc.colorado.com) serv.eng.abdn.ac.uk stork.doc.ic.ac.uk dismayl.demon.co.uk irc.ais.net irc.texas.net irc.digex.net irc.colorado.edu irc.escape.com cs-pub.bu.edu irc.virginia.edu shrug.dur.ac.uk irc.funet.fi Hope this is enough :) > Can Anyone give me a good list of IRC server and channel to login to, >pls? > Thank you. > > > > *************************************************** > * Stephen Ho * > * Email: ie_hsc@stu.ust.hk * > * WWW : http://susis.ust.hk/~sch/index.html * > *************************************************** |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and it doesn't have that dangerous beak." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 23:28:38 +0000 From: Christopher Silveira Subject: IRC again To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Actually, I will just go there and create #enigma and whoever can join me when I'm in it. If there is a good response, maybe between us all we can keep it open as our forum. So join me on 'iapp.netscape.com' in channel '#enigma', at least when I am able to be there! See ya soon hopefully! ---------------------------------- Christopher Silveira aka eric longfellow (the lost dj) csil@hooked.net chris_silveira@pagenet.com http://www.hooked.net:80/users/csil/ -=(UDIC)=- "Junior Dragon" "This our house, and our house miusic!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:49:48 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC Bot Question To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I was in the #enigma channel on IRC just now and there was one one person/thing in there. He/It was ABATHAY, It wouldn't answer me so I concluded that It was a Bot? has anyone put a bot in there? I appologise if it is actually a person, but it's hard to determine whether or not he is a person or Bot BTW, A Bot is simply a computer program that usually helps and hold the channel open, some will make experienced users, Ops. If it is a Bot whoever put it there, could you possibly make it recognize me, or give me instructions on how to recognize me? |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:32:47 -0400 (EDT) From: cplusplus Subject: IRC Bot Question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Neil Cutler wrote: Enigma is quite a common IRC nick, and it's just as common for someone to take a personal channel with the same nick as themselves. For instance, when I'm on any of the nets I've usualy stake out #cplusplus. I've looked for an enigma channel before, and I seem to remember the same thing. So it coulda been a bot, or it coulda been someone ignoring you. One thing to do would be to hang out on another net, undernet, or a more secure net. A couple servers I like to use for whatever can be found at irc.renegade-bbs.com/205.245.11.10. Their not nearly as well used as EFnet so there isn't all the flooding, hacking, ect. (Servers are hackrpoof anyways.) > I was in the #enigma channel on IRC just now and there was one one > person/thing in there. He/It was ABATHAY, It wouldn't answer me so I > concluded that It was a Bot? has anyone put a bot in there? > > I appologise if it is actually a person, but it's hard to determine whether > or not he is a person or Bot > > BTW, A Bot is simply a computer program that usually helps and hold the > channel open, some will make experienced users, Ops. If it is a Bot whoever > put it there, could you possibly make it recognize me, or give me > instructions on how to recognize me? > > |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ > | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( > | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ > | (o)(o) // // | / > email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | > IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider > Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he > "won't mind me cutting > "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" > "When God created man, She made a mistake" > > > ====================================================================== = cplusplus - finger aleigh@sover.net for oldstyle PLAN = = THE PLAN, now in html. http://www.renegade-bbs.com/~aleigh = = aleigh@tessier.com, aleigh@renegade-bbs.com = = Get PGP, cause. = ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:42:09 -0500 (CDT) From: djbarke@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Daniel Barker) Subject: IRC Channel To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Greetings, Folks, I just thought I would try to be helpful and point out that there is already a channel on the IRC know as EnIgMa. It is used to discuss programming or hacking or something like that. I didn't pay much attention. Thanks for your support Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:51:12 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC Channel To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Ya that must be the Bot I'm talking about. How dare someone use our name ha :) (G) any ideas for a new name? or shall we talke charge? :) >Greetings, Folks, > >I just thought I would try to be helpful and point out that there is already a >channel on the IRC know as EnIgMa. It is used to discuss programming or >hacking or something like that. I didn't pay much attention. > >Thanks for your support > >Dan |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:22:08 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: IRC Channel To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I vote for #enigma-fan karen :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:33:38 -0400 (EDT) From: bboggs Subject: IRC Channel To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I second that Bret > > I vote for #enigma-fan > > karen :) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:47:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Echols Subject: IRC Channel To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Good Idea! I also second that. - Me On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Karen Sullivan wrote: > I vote for #enigma-fan > > karen :) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:37:47 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC Channel To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just thought I'd say that #nigma-fan sounds good to me, next time i'm on IRC, you'll find me there! (or #horse of course!) |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:19:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: IRC Channel To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, bboggs wrote: Um...Third here... LJR I x > I second that > > Bret > > > > > > I vote for #enigma-fan > > > > karen :) > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:16:19 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC Channel To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have been in #enigma-fan but no one is ever there, I have given a brief guide to explain (It came from a person in my other mailing list so replace all "horses" with enigma-fan) what and how to use IRC, to check it out when your in the channel type: /join #enigma-fan and to get out: /leave (when you in the channel) to disconnect: /quit Hope y'all will join when you can :) |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and it doesn't have that dangerous beak." ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 1995 11:58:54 -0600 From: "Sam Spink" Subject: IRC Channel To: "Enigma" Texas A&M University Department of Food Services Agronomy Rd, College Station, TX 77843-1374 409-862-2014, Fax 845-2157 IRC Channel 10/27/95 11:52 AM Anyone up for starting the IRC channel earlier? Just curious because I will not be around at that time. Thanks for the info, though. Sam Spink s-spink@tamu.edu Computer Systems Manager ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 07:03:54 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC chat tonight! Be there! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au IRC chnnel #enigma-fan -will- be open tonight at 5:00 PST (8:00 EST) Be there to talk to your friends here on EML. to join the channel type /join #enigma-fan Someone will be there, so come along in, it will be lots of fun! :) When you come in the channel, just join right in the disussion. |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and doesn't shit all over you when they fly by!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 15:59:48 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC sessions To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've noticed that there is never anyone in #enigma-fan So I guess I'll try to promote it :) IRC- #enigma-fan will be open at 5:00 pm (-700) and 8:00 pm (-400) EST If it is not open then go ahead and make the channel to join or make the channel type: /join #enigma-fan if it has not been created, then it will be created. Please join in the conversation when you join. If you have any questions or want to find out what IRC is, feel free to email me |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Well, I did it, don't "I get a treat?" "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? What about the pillow? It's got more feathers and doesn't shit all over you when they fly by!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 20:26:24 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: IRC times To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Tonight there were three people that came into #enigma-fan, so we had a small discussion, what is even neater is when there are 5+ users on at the same time, it means that there is much more discussion taking place, and is lots of fun. Some people say that they need a different time, what time is best for you? let's start a discussion and find out what the best time would be, maybe later it will be an on-going channel where we join whenever we want, wouldn't that be cool? :) If you haven't tried IRC, you might want to check it out, you can read the guide I have sent and then if you have any questions, feel free to email me. For now, the channel will usually be open from 5:00 pm PST (8:00 EST) to 5:30 pm PST (8:30 EST) every night, if no one joins during that time I can't guarantee that someone will be there. So come on and try it, it's totally different and it's also fun :) Hey maybe we should have a trivia day?? |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "Marie had a little RAM- about a Meg or so" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 14:58:07 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: IRC times To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello :) You were asking when people could get onto IRC...well...for me, my only access is through my university account...the university I go to blocks out access to IRC except for after 12:00 am !! If it's a weekday I'm studing...but if it's a weekend...I can usually manage to get on...I don't expect you to plan you IRC times around me...I'm just telling you so you'll know some of us have very limited access and just to be able to get on IRC is a challange and during a certain time is almost an impossiblity... Karen Sullivan - R7NM@unb.ca Lupins on IRC - Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada... ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Quarks. Neutrinos. Mesons. All those damn Particles you can't see. *That's* what drove me to drink. But *now* I *can* see them!" Sidney Harris 1990 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:43:10 -0400 (AST) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Life Style Condoms & Deep Forest :) To: Enigma List Hi all...bet your wondering how I'm going to link these two together aren't ya :) Well I was watching Much Music (yet again), and a comerial came on for Life Style condoms...and the music in the back ground was what I thought was Deep Forest :) I'm not too sure because I've just started listening to their music resently and I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this ad and if my hunch that it's Deep Forest is right :) The music if it isn't Deep Forest had at least the same what I think is Indian lyrics going as Deep Forest uses (maybe not exact same words but at least same language). If I'm wrong I'm going to look pretty stupid so please be easy on me if I am...I really don't want any flames :) May the Force be with you :) (I'm getting ready for the rerelease of Star Wars) Karen Sullivan - R7NM@unb.ca Lupins on IRC - Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada... ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Quarks. Neutrinos. Mesons. All those damn Particles you can't see. *That's* what drove me to drink. But *now* I *can* see them!" Sidney Harris 1990 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 19:41:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Corey Daniel Leamon Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma mailing list Hi all, I just read an entry and the person was talking about a limited edition of the first album. How would I get my hands on that? Also, does anyone have the gold Cross of Changes album? I'm curious if the remixes on it are good (of course they are, I just want to know for sure). Thanks for any info. Corey/Draven ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 09:44:26 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'd like some info on that as well....if anyone has it or knows where to get it, I'd be happy to pay well for it. Thanks, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:36:50 +0100 From: s.mitchell@easynet.co.uk (Steve Mitchell) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I'd like some info on that as well....if anyone has it or knows where to get >it, I'd be happy to pay well for it. >Thanks, >Jeremy > > > I quite often go to record/cd fairs, and other places with `collectables`. Also I have seen the Limited Editions in a record store in London - the name escapes me... But if anyone would like me to keep an eye out for them, email me direct, and give a rough guide to how much you would be willing to go up to if I find any copies. I won`t charge any silly money - just cost+post and packing. As I hope people would do the same for me. I`ll try and do it on a first come, first served basis. Also If anyone wants the `Stone Age` CD discussed here (It`s VERY good !!) I can get them for 8 uk pounds (plus p+p) I`ll send them anywhere in world. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:11:31 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'll just throw this in. I bought my MCMXC a. D. Lim. Ed. at an independent record store back home. If you easy access to imported CDs, I would suggest Best Buy and large size Musiclands/Sam Goodys. I know the Sam Goody in Mall of America has lots of imports, as do all the record stores there. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:44:01 +1000 From: jfk@acay.com.au (jfk) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >>I'd like some info on that as well....if anyone has it or knows where to get >>it, I'd be happy to pay well for it. >>Thanks, >>Jeremy >> >> >> > >I quite often go to record/cd fairs, and other places with `collectables`. >Also I have seen the Limited Editions in a record store in London - the name >escapes me... But if anyone would like me to keep an eye out for them, email >me direct, and give a rough guide to how much you would be willing to go up >to if I find any copies. > >I won`t charge any silly money - just cost+post and packing. As I hope >people would do the same for me. I`ll try and do it on a first come, first >served basis. Also If anyone wants the `Stone Age` CD discussed here (It`s >VERY good !!) I can get them for 8 uk pounds (plus p+p) I`ll send them >anywhere in world. > >Steve > > Steve, I'm in Australia... and there are many copies left at a store i know here in sydney. I would be happy to sell them to anyone (cost+postage) with nothing extra. I already have copyies of the ltd edtions and they are great. If anyone would like one mail me anote and I'll see what i can do for you. But i suggest you hurry as there arn't toooo many. Regards JFK JFK@acay.com.au ...."a 2400 makes you want to get out and push" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 11:48:02 MEZ From: h9550275@gutemine.wu-wien.ac.at (Juergen Smutek) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi !!! Do you don't have the "Golden One"??? It's great. The Remixes are: Return to Innocence (Long & Alive Version) The Eyes of Truth (Goetterdaemmerungsmix) Carly's Song (Enigmatic Club Remix) Buy it !!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:04:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Steve Mitchell On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Steve Mitchell wrote: > >I'd like some info on that as well....if anyone has it or knows where to get > >it, I'd be happy to pay well for it. > >Thanks, > >Jeremy > > > > > > > > I quite often go to record/cd fairs, and other places with `collectables`. > Also I have seen the Limited Editions in a record store in London - the name > escapes me... But if anyone would like me to keep an eye out for them, email > me direct, and give a rough guide to how much you would be willing to go up > to if I find any copies. > > I won`t charge any silly money - just cost+post and packing. As I hope > people would do the same for me. I`ll try and do it on a first come, first > served basis. Also If anyone wants the `Stone Age` CD discussed here (It`s > VERY good !!) I can get them for 8 uk pounds (plus p+p) I`ll send them > anywhere in world. > > Steve > > Hello I am a "newbe" on this list. I just have 2 album from Enigma: Enigma I (the regular one) and Enigma II (the limited edition). If somebody can have access to Enigma I (limited edition) or any other single CD, please let me know it. E-mail directly to my address and we can take some arrangement. Thank you _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:24:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Juergen Smutek On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Juergen Smutek wrote: > Hi !!! > > Do you don't have the "Golden One"??? It's great. The Remixes are: > > Return to Innocence (Long & Alive Version) > The Eyes of Truth (Goetterdaemmerungsmix) > Carly's Song (Enigmatic Club Remix) > > Buy it !!! > Yes, I have the "golden one". But I don't have the limited edition (green jacket) of Enigma 1. _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:00:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Juergen Smutek wrote: > > > Hi !!! > > > > Do you don't have the "Golden One"??? It's great. The Remixes are: > > > > Return to Innocence (Long & Alive Version) > > The Eyes of Truth (Goetterdaemmerungsmix) > > Carly's Song (Enigmatic Club Remix) > > > > Buy it !!! > > Where do you find the "Golden One"? LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:03:31 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au For anyone out there, I paid $23 for MCMXC limited back in an independent record store back home. Imported singles of Out From The Deep and Eyes Of Truth cost $11 and $10 respectively. I've no clue on the price for Cross Of Changes limited, tho! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 01:04:05 -0500 From: nitefyre@interaccess.com (Dave DeYoung) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >For anyone out there, I paid $23 for MCMXC limited back in an independent >record store back home. Imported singles of Out From The Deep and Eyes Of >Truth cost $11 and $10 respectively. I've no clue on the price for Cross Of >Changes limited, tho! > >I bought my Cross of Changes Limited Edition gold CD at a Blockbuster Music. I found it in the import section. I paid $30 + tax for it. I have both of Enigma's albums, both in the regular CDs and the limited/special edition CDs too. I really enjoy them both. -- Dave DeYoung nitefyre@interaccess.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:12:27 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hi !!! > >Do you don't have the "Golden One"??? It's great. The Remixes are: > >Return to Innocence (Long & Alive Version) >The Eyes of Truth (Goetterdaemmerungsmix) >Carly's Song (Enigmatic Club Remix) > >Buy it !!! > >Hey...I know I seem interested in buying alot of CD's lately, but do any of you know where to get this one too? It's hard saving money when there is so much cool music out there! Thanks, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:26:53 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Limited Edition Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have a piece of advice for finding rarer CDs, some of you have mentioned....although you might pay a bigger price... Go to infoseek and do a search of the web for a music store thing named GEMM....do a search on Enigma and you get a listing of virtually ANY enigma music I have ever heard of...hope it helps someone. Later, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 15:07:28 +1000 From: jfk@acay.com.au (jfk) Subject: LIMITED EDTION CD'S To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Due to the large demand of the LIMITED EDITION cd's i said i would sell to ppl, I have unfortunately run out of copies. BUT TO REMEDY THIS PROBLEM WE WILL BE HAVING AN AUCTION. The auction will take place via E-Mail. Your bid MUST be in AUSTRALIAN $... It will not be accepted if in another currency. YOOR BID MUST NOT INCLUDE POSTAGE / HANDLING.. this will be worked out after wards. **************************************************************************** ************* YOUR BID MUST BE SENT TO JFK@ACAY.COM.AU .... BIDS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED FROM OTHER PLACES **************************************************************************** ************* Please be advised that you should include YOUR e-mail address if you expect a reply. ############################################################################ ########### THE ENTRIES WILL CLOSE ON DECEMBER THE 12TH 1995... NO BIDS WILL BE ACCEPTED AFTER THEN ############################################################################ ########### send replys to JFK@acay.com.au yours, Julian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:48:06 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: List/Web Survey Results (long) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. This message is slightly off-topic but should interest most of you as it is in regards to mailing lists and Webs run for musical bands. I was one of the respondants! (on the mailing list side only) Please note that the results are edited for readability. I hope this gives hope to some of you considering your own mailing list or Web page. btw, can a person calling themself "Goddess of Enigma" please contact me at gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au as I cannot currently contact you. Cheers, Gavin "still hungover!" Stok *** Forwarded message: > We sent out a total of 685 surveys; 210 to list owners/managers and 475 > to WWW site owners. Our participation rate was nearly 50%--96 list > managers and 238 Web folk responded--thanks for your support!! > > Elizabeth Carroll Colleen Matan > American University Georgetown University > carroll@american matanc@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu > > The oldest list respondent was 40 and the youngest was 18. > > SEX > Lists: female 15 > male 71 > > Web: female 11 > male 180 > ??? 1 > > OCCUPATION > Lists: students 29 (22 undergrads; 7 grads) > 11 computer science; 5 engineering/math; others included > classics, premed, Russian studies, library science > > non-students 54 > 31 held computer-related jobs; others listed their occupations > as: "none", at-home mom, reactor scientist, artist, > professor, "merchant" > > Web: students 130 (4 high school, 97 undergrads, 29 grads) > of the undergrads and grads, one-half were majoring in computer > science (55) or engineering. Many of the rest were studying > the sciences--some chem, some bio, a few physicists, although > there were also a handful of poli sci, English lit, and > marketing majors. > > non-students 57 > the "non-students" are employed almost exclusively in computer- > related jobs. They are network administrators, research > programmers, software engineers and the like (although > there was also one social worker). > > Web Site "Locations": > US 136 > Non-US 56 > > WHEN > Lists: > Most lists (73) were started after 1990 (35 in 1994 alone), although 5 > existed prior to 1990. > > Web: > Not surprisingly, 75% of the Web Pages had been up for less than one year. > > TIME SPENT > Lists: > Most list managers reported that they spent between 1 and 5 hours to set up > their site and 1-5 hours per week maintaining them. Owners who did not have > manual lists naturally spent more time, and many felt that moderating and > participating in their lists was also time spent maintaining them. > > Web: > Extremely difficult to get exact counts. Generally speaking, however, > approximately 60% said they spent between 1 and 12 hours setting up their > original page. Of course, web pages are constantly under construction > and most respondents spend an hour or two per week updating and maintaining > their pages. The range for start up time was 1 hour to 150-200 hours. > However, the individual who gave that high figure developed his pages as a > project for a technical writing class. > > WHY DID YOU DEVELOP THIS SITE? > Lists: > Contrary to what I [Colleen} thought, most list owners did not start > lists in order to meet their subjects. The overwhelming response were > variations on > > "to meet other fans, to share information and to spread the word" > > "It's nice when none of your friends like a particular band to meet > other people who do" > > "There was quiet a bit of flaming taking place in Usenet news groups > ... [and] I started my list so fans of the group could discuss > related topics without flames" > > Web: > Not surprisingly, many respondents are enthusiastic fans and responded > to the "Why" question with variations on > > "I love their music and it originally started as a way to say, "Look! > I am their greatest fan!" > > "Aerosmith and Internet are my life" > > However, when it comes to the Web respondents, many seem to be as much fans > of the technology as of the musicians for whom they've created a Page. At > least 25% of those surveyed specifically stated that they wanted or needed to > learn html. > > Some realize that being able to design and program web pages is a marketable > skill and they are setting these pages up as a way of promoting themselves. > Two were developing pages for course credit. > > Others want to give something back to the Internet community, some see this > as a creative outlet, many said they started a site simply because there > wasn't one for that band--"Basically, I saw a great need." > > HAVE YOU MADE THE MUSICIAN(S) TO WHOM YOUR SITE IS DEVOTED AWARE OF YOUR > SITE? > > Lists: > Although no one would admit they started their list to meet its subject [; )], > about 30% of the list owners had tried to make the artist/group aware of > the list's existence, and about 10% were successful. Owners saw the > dominant obstacle to the is type of contact to be the artist/band's lack of > Internet access. > > HAVE YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE MUSICIAN(S), THEIR LABEL, OR THE MUSIC > INDUSTRY? > > Lists: > Successful responses ranged from one-time posts to ongoing lurking and > even participation in their own list. Contact with the list subjects is a > double-edged sword. In the words of one list manager > > "Aspects they like: they can get feedback from a large number of > fans. Aspects they don't like: quick feedback from a large number > of fans." > > The presence on the of its subject, even in lurk mode, as exists > on several lists, is still the ultimate reward for list managers: > > "Even in his anonymous state, [he] confirms [to us] that all our hard > work has been worth it and that the band at least recognizes our effort > to help build a network of information and discussion about their music > > Feedback and contact with the list subject's label and/or management > has been less rewarding for most list owners. While some lists have a > positive label and/or management presence with information, tickets, > promotional items, etc., regularly provided to list members, many > respondents have had a struggle with this type of contact: > > "I tried, but his management agency couldn't give a rat's ass...[and] I > received an extremely rude and obnoxious note from a music publisher > ...when the list started up." > > "The band seems very supportive of the idea, but I've spoken with > management a couple of times and they don't really care. In fact, they > are very unhelpful." > > "Talk about getting blood from a stone....It's just silly to ignore the > Internet when there are people out here willing to speak the good word -- > for free, even." > > Web: > > While many Web Page developers have made the musicians aware of their > sites, to generally positive but low-key response, just as many say no, > they have not tried to make the artist aware. Some said it never even > occurred to them. Others said they didn't know how to get in touch with > the musicians. > > Quite a few responded that they hadn't tried to make the band aware because > the page wasn't FOR the BAND--it was for the fans and they doubted that > the band would be interested anyway. > > Finally, a few mentioned that they deliberately chose not to try to contact > the musicians because they were worried about copyright infringement. > > Which leads to the feedback from the recording companies... > > Unlike the list managers, the Web page developers are more likely to have had > feedback from the record labels than from the musicians themselves. The > reactions from the labels are mostly positive in spite of the fact that, > of course, there is a lot of copyright infringement. At the very least > the industry seems to be giving tacit support to these fan-generated sites > even as the recording companies are developing their own Web pages as > marketing tools. They seem to realize that the fan-generated pages serve > the interests of the recording companies, regardless of who it is the > page developers are seeking to serve. > > Several record companies have made links to fan-generated pages from the > "official" industry-supported pages and in some cases are considering > making the fan-generated page an official information channel for the band. > Several Web respondents report that they are in regular contact with a > representative of the band or its label. > > OTHER POINTS: > Implications for the transformation of the relationship between fans and > artists: > > Lists: > The musicians have learned that critical comments on the part of Internet > fans aren't necessarily negative comments. Musicians who have had extensive > contact with traditional fan clubs where critical comments are edited out > are usually surprised with the sometimes intense, focused discussions of > their music, lyrics, costumes and hairstyles, not always realizing that > when they walk into a conversation determines its content,and often take these > unedited comments out of context. Other musicians, in the early stages of > their careers, find the on-line fan clubs to be a welcome source of > support and even inspiration during touring. > > Fans learn that musicians don't always understand or appreciate the > various threads alive in their list, and comment on how surprised they > were to find the list subject so thin-skinned. Others worry about what > effect this type of immediate and personal contact will have on the nature > of being a fan: > > "Will this level of connection with the band make them more special in > the end, or rather make following them around like helping your high > school buddies at one of their concerts?" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:20:44 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Locations... To: Enigma List I was wondering if there is a FAQ regarding the number of albums Enigma has released?? I keep reading about all these different kinds and I kinda want a list a can read off of....plus I was wondering if there is a file anywhere's that contain all the Enigma lyrics to all there songs (including English translations...) Thanks for the info and the time... Karen Sullivan | "Help a man when he is in trouble and he will IRC - Lupins | remember you when he is in trouble again." R7NM@UNB.CA | - unknown ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:44:45 -0400 From: Jerry Smith Subject: Locations... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Karen, I use several sources to figure out all the different releases. The first two are the Web Sites: www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html and yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html. Then I telnet to cdconnection.com and check their database and then telnet to cdeurope.com and check their database. If its a nice day, I go to Camelot Music and then down to the OSU Campus music shops around High Street. Hope this helps. At 02:20 PM 10-10-95 -0300, you wrote: >I was wondering if there is a FAQ regarding the number of albums Enigma >has released?? I keep reading about all these different kinds and I >kinda want a list a can read off of....plus I was wondering if there is a >file anywhere's that contain all the Enigma lyrics to all there songs >(including English translations...) > >Thanks for the info and the time... > >Karen Sullivan | "Help a man when he is in trouble and he will >IRC - Lupins | remember you when he is in trouble again." >R7NM@UNB.CA | - unknown > > > > > > > Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Television. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:18:54 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Locations... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To make a simpler idea other then Jerry's: There is a FAQ located at: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma/html and also at the FTP site: yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au and going to the /listserv/enigma directory at the Web Page, there is a section on the lyrics too >I was wondering if there is a FAQ regarding the number of albums Enigma >has released?? I keep reading about all these different kinds and I >kinda want a list a can read off of....plus I was wondering if there is a >file anywhere's that contain all the Enigma lyrics to all there songs >(including English translations...) > >Thanks for the info and the time... > >Karen Sullivan | "Help a man when he is in trouble and he will >IRC - Lupins | remember you when he is in trouble again." >R7NM@UNB.CA | - unknown > > |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:31:13 -0400 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Making Love To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Does anyone else believe - as I do - that MCMXC a.d. is the soundtrack to a 45-minute sexual encounter? Think about it the next time you fire up the CD. Listen to the way the rhythms change: "The Voice of Enigma" and "Principles of Lust" sound like foreplay, "Mea Culpa" sounds like orgasm, and "Rivers of Belief" sounds like a cool-down. If "Mea Culpa" is indeed intercourse in this context, the name of the track (translated "My Fault") takes on a meaning which would be consistent with many religions which view pre-marital sex as a sin, or "fault." Thoughts? pk. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 00:41:43 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Mmmm...making love. Yep! I think you've put your finger on it. I often feel as though I have been making love after listening to an Enigma CD. There's always a feeling of being completely content all the way down to the bottom of the soul. It is certainly good music to play while actually making love. I feel it intensifies the already heavy intense emotion of the whole thing. Peace. John "The Bagel Boy" Ingram - Mountain View, California bagelboy@best.com http://www.best.com/~bagelboy john@betterbagel.com http://www.betterbagel.com/bbi.html In our lives we come across many choices. Taking the initiative to make a choice is the first step in creating our own achievments. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 07:57:17 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >P.K. wrote: Does anyone else believe - as I do - that MCMXC a.d. is the soundtrack to a >45-minute sexual encounter? Think about it the next time you fire up the CD. >>Listen to the way the rhythms change: "The Voice of Enigma" and "Principles >of Lust" sound like foreplay, "Mea Culpa" sounds like orgasm, and "Rivers of >Belief" sounds like a cool-down. Hi All, P.K. "Wow, My heart is skipping beats. I think Mua must faint now. SMILE!!!!!" Yes, I think there is a very passionate connection between Love and the Sounds of Enigma. The words whisper connotations of intrigue, desire, lust, seduction and Eternal spledour. Swee Dreams, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA > *angelmac* - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:51:05 -0400 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Making Love To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au --------------------- Forwarded message: From: ljr0677@tamaix.tamu.edu ("Lamar James Romero") To: PKucera@aol.com Date: 95-10-04 18:12:35 EDT On Wed, 4 Oct 1995 PKucera@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone else believe - as I do - that MCMXC a.d. is the soundtrack to a > 45-minute sexual encounter? Think about it the next time you fire up the CD. > > Listen to the way the rhythms change: "The Voice of Enigma" and "Principles > of Lust" sound like foreplay, "Mea Culpa" sounds like orgasm, and "Rivers of > Belief" sounds like a cool-down. > > If "Mea Culpa" is indeed intercourse in this context, the name of the track > (translated "My Fault") takes on a meaning which would be consistent with > many religions which view pre-marital sex as a sin, or "fault." > > Thoughts? > > pk. > I tell you what... I couldn't agree more on the eroticism of Enigma. I really don't know if that is a known or unseen fact, but I know it, believeit, and live it... I don't know the name of the songs persay, but I follow what you are saying clearly... That is my thought... LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:51:09 -0400 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Making Love To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au --------------------- Forwarded message: From: dzle@ucdavis.edu (Dinh Le) To: PKucera@aol.com Date: 95-10-04 22:58:06 EDT although yout theory has merit, I think you are listening in on it toooooo much. Enjoy it for what it is, some of the most extraordinary mussic ever written. If you examine it too mu8ch it looses it's mystery and looses it's charm, though I highly doubt that it ever can IMHO. So listen and Enjoy, but your theory... well is a little out there. Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 18:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Susan Abbondanza Subject: Making Love To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Anyone remember a few months ago when i joined this list and my interesting note at the end of my introduction was one time a girl told me that "Enigma is great sex music" Well now that the subjecy is up again i thought i share my few. I totally agree. eat drink and be merry, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:38:09 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Woohoo! I agree fully, McMxc ad is DEFINTELY "bonking" music. Along this trend, Carly's Song (From Sliver) was in the Top 10 list of bonking songs on Triple J, an alternative radio station, a couple of years back. The Cross of Changes, in a sexual interpretation, seems to reflect the lover scorned (I Love you I Kill you). Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 10:29:46 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I must agree. There are numerous Enigma songs that just speak to my sexual side. Especially hot are, in my opinion, "I Love You...I'll Kill You," "Mea Culpa Part II (Orthodox Mix)," and "Principles Of Lust." I know I am not alone. Peace, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 13:32:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Susan Abbondanza wrote: > Anyone remember a few months ago when i joined this list and my > interesting note at the end of my introduction was one time a girl told > me that "Enigma is great sex music" Well now that the subjecy is up > again i thought i share my few. I totally agree. > > > eat drink and be merry, > Dave > Dave and Enigma folks, I COULD NOT AGREE MORE MYSELF...Is that a bad thing to admit. I mean, the lyrics, the beat, the karma...they all lead to peace and beauty. I thought that this was a well known fact, but I guess not. Does anyone out there totally have a different reason why they listen to Enigma? I don't just listen to Enigma when I am having "sexual encounters", but does everyone feel sexual when they listen, what other emotions do yall feel out there... :) LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 14:43:29 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, "Lamar James Romero" wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Susan Abbondanza wrote: > > > Anyone remember a few months ago when i joined this list and my > > interesting note at the end of my introduction was one time a girl told > > me that "Enigma is great sex music" Well now that the subjecy is up > > again i thought i share my few. I totally agree. > > > > > > eat drink and be merry, > > Dave > > > > Dave and Enigma folks, > > I COULD NOT AGREE MORE MYSELF...Is that a bad thing to admit. I > mean, the lyrics, the beat, the karma...they all lead to peace and > beauty. I thought that this was a well known fact, but I guess not. > Does anyone out there totally have a different reason why they listen to > Enigma? I don't just listen to Enigma when I am having "sexual encounters", > but does everyone feel sexual when they listen, what other emotions do > yall feel out there... > > :) LJR I I am a composer so I think I might listen to and possibly hear music differently than others do. I listen to Enigma because I love the sound combinations he uses, the chord progressions, melody development, phrase changes, bridge creation--all the technical aspects of it. Each time I listen I learn how he (Michael Cretu) creates his art. Music is a lot like putting together a jigsaw puzzle from the composers view. You have to put the parts together so they fit and become seamless which can be very difficult since you cannot see the pieces. You have to hear the pieces and make them fit. This process can be very frustrating. After I have composed for a couple of hours, I am dead tired and extremly irritable. My brain has to concentrate so hard to make the music fit. However, once the song is finished and it sounds seamless, I reach a point of europa and continue to feel that way almost everytime I listen to the song. Since the music of enigam resembles mine in many ways from the technical standpoint (I do much more melody development though) I feel the same pleasure from his music as I do with mine which does not happen to me with other artist's music. Peter C. Geisheker> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 15:57:26 -0300 (ADT) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, "Lamar James Romero" wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Susan Abbondanza wrote: > > > Anyone remember a few months ago when i joined this list and my > > interesting note at the end of my introduction was one time a girl told > > me that "Enigma is great sex music" Well now that the subjecy is up > > again i thought i share my few. I totally agree. > > > > > > eat drink and be merry, > > Dave > > > > Dave and Enigma folks, > > I COULD NOT AGREE MORE MYSELF...Is that a bad thing to admit. I > mean, the lyrics, the beat, the karma...they all lead to peace and > beauty. I thought that this was a well known fact, but I guess not. > Does anyone out there totally have a different reason why they listen to > Enigma? I don't just listen to Enigma when I am having "sexual encounters", > but does everyone feel sexual when they listen, what other emotions do > yall feel out there... > > :) LJR I > > Personally, I do agree that Enigma's music is very sentual (sp??) but I don't feel it's sexual...When I listen to Enigma's music it's usually because I'm in a very depressed state (and when i get depressed...well...we hide the knives in the house...) it's the only music that seems to cheer me up...it takes me away from my problems and reminds some truly beautiful things don't even have shape, all they have is the beauty in their emotions...Enigma's music gives me hope, it fills me with undiscribable joy...it's music that seems to just accept.... Karen Sullivan | "Korman's conclusion: IRC - Lupins | The trouble with resisting temptation is it may R7NM@UNB.CA | never come your way again." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:07:34 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I listen to Enigma because I love the sound combinations he uses, the >chord progressions, melody development, phrase changes, bridge >creation--all the technical aspects of it. Each time I listen I learn >how he (Michael Cretu) creates his art. Music is a lot like putting >together a jigsaw puzzle from the composers view. You have to put the >parts together so they fit and become seamless which can be very >difficult since you cannot see the pieces. You have to hear the pieces >and make them fit. This process can be very frustrating. After I have >composed for a couple of hours, I am dead tired and extremly irritable. >My brain has to concentrate so hard to make the music fit. However, once >the song is finished and it sounds seamless, I reach a point of europa >and continue to feel that way almost everytime I listen to the song. >Since the music of enigam resembles mine in many ways from the technical >standpoint (I do much more melody development though) I feel the same >pleasure from his music as I do with mine which does not happen to me >with other artist's music. > I can understand a bit of what It is like, the same type of things happen when programming; after I have finished a program, I am either, very happy, or very irritable. So even if we don't compose music, we can understand (A BIT!) |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 16:50 PDT From: perryg@islandnet.com (Gregg Perry/Pilgrim Computer Resources) Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > >On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, "Lamar James Romero" wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Susan Abbondanza wrote: >> >> > Anyone remember a few months ago when i joined this list and my >> > interesting note at the end of my introduction was one time a girl told >> > me that "Enigma is great sex music" Well now that the subjecy is up >> > again i thought i share my few. I totally agree. >> > >> > >> > eat drink and be merry, >> > Dave >> > >> >> Dave and Enigma folks, >> >> I COULD NOT AGREE MORE MYSELF...Is that a bad thing to admit. I >> mean, the lyrics, the beat, the karma...they all lead to peace and >> beauty. I thought that this was a well known fact, but I guess not. >> Does anyone out there totally have a different reason why they listen to >> Enigma? I don't just listen to Enigma when I am having "sexual encounters", >> but does everyone feel sexual when they listen, what other emotions do >> yall feel out there... >> >> :) LJR I >I am a composer so I think I might listen to and possibly hear music >differently than others do. > >I listen to Enigma because I love the sound combinations he uses, the >chord progressions, melody development, phrase changes, bridge >creation--all the technical aspects of it. Each time I listen I learn >how he (Michael Cretu) creates his art. Music is a lot like putting >together a jigsaw puzzle from the composers view. You have to put the >parts together so they fit and become seamless which can be very >difficult since you cannot see the pieces. You have to hear the pieces >and make them fit. This process can be very frustrating. After I have >composed for a couple of hours, I am dead tired and extremly irritable. >My brain has to concentrate so hard to make the music fit. However, once >the song is finished and it sounds seamless, I reach a point of europa >and continue to feel that way almost everytime I listen to the song. >Since the music of enigam resembles mine in many ways from the technical >standpoint (I do much more melody development though) I feel the same >pleasure from his music as I do with mine which does not happen to me >with other artist's music. > >Peter C. Geisheker> > > > Hello all, I can see how you could find Enigma to be very sexual, but that's not usually how I hear it. Enigma brings sadness and joy to me all at the same time (if that's possible) and sort of gives me a sense of calm; being on top of things...It's very soothing, as I'm sure you all find. Pete said that he listens to music differently than others do because he is a composer; I do some composing as well, but I find that if I listen to music as a musician it's not as enjoyable (although I always either gain or lose respect and admiration for the band). I have a lot of respect for Enigma, not only for the beauty of their music, but for the complexity as well. Anyway, that's just my 2 bits... Thanx, Cathryn Perry phone: 748-3250 email: perryg@islandnet.com 1817 St. Ann's Place, RR 5 Duncan, BC V9L 4T6 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:26:24 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au There are two other very hot songs that you might want to check out. 1. "Lily was here" by Dave Stewart and Candy Duffler. There are two versions of "Lily was here" on Candy Duffler's CD Saxuality. The last song on the CD is the dance mix of "lily was here" and is great. 2. Duran Duran of all groups has a song that could be taken right off of an enigma CD. The song is called "When you come undone" and is amazing. I can listen to that song over and over. I'm not sure what the name of the CD is but I will find out this weekend. The rest of the CD is ok I guess. It didn't impress me a lot but the song "when you come undone" makes up for the rest of the CD. That's all for now. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 12:14:02 EDT From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >There are two other very hot songs that you might want to check out. ... >2. Duran Duran of all groups has a song that could be taken right off of >an enigma CD. The song is called "When you come undone" and is amazing. The song is called just "Come Undone" and the CD title is "Duran Duran" (CPD 0777 7 98876 2 0). It is copyrighted 1993. I personally like the whole CD and yes, the song does sound similar to Enigma. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:19:11 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Making Love To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well when I really think about this, I of course see it a bit as sexual, but then again, Every song reminds me of little parts of the competition I went to on horseBack in Guelph, Ontario. and of course how awesome sadness works with Arab Horses. Most to me bring hapiness, but there is one, actually Principles of Lust that makes me sad (Long Story). My favorite of all song will have to be Man is the Drea of The Dolphin, because it has such a good morale. Enigma is so neat because for every person the music means something different. For me, I associate it with horses, for others... Hope people agree, I sure Love enigma! |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:58:48 -0400 From: Jerry Smith Subject: Making Love to MCMXC a.d. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au pk, I have used it with my past lover several times, fireplace at medium flame, a good bottle of her favorite wine, the Onkya surround sound a soft pace and it is a wonderful evening. Un fortunately, she had to move to Germany to do research for some company, so we had a Mea Culpa evening over a favorite brandy of mine and said our goodbye. I still get Email from her. At 03:31 PM 04-10-95 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone else believe - as I do - that MCMXC a.d. is the soundtrack to a >45-minute sexual encounter? Think about it the next time you fire up the CD. > >Listen to the way the rhythms change: "The Voice of Enigma" and "Principles >of Lust" sound like foreplay, "Mea Culpa" sounds like orgasm, and "Rivers of >Belief" sounds like a cool-down. > >If "Mea Culpa" is indeed intercourse in this context, the name of the track >(translated "My Fault") takes on a meaning which would be consistent with >many religions which view pre-marital sex as a sin, or "fault." > >Thoughts? > >pk. > > Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Television. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:03:26 CET From: "Grebenar Robert" Subject: Marta's lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Really interesting your information. I enjoy Boheme very much, especially > those songs from Marta. I'd love to have Marta's Song lyrics in hungarian > and an english translation. If it is possible, would you mail them to me? > It doesn't matter it's not complete. > > Thank a lot. > > Daniel > > Hello ! I discovered that the songs are not whole units - the band cut and mixed the original songs between woerds and lines. So they wanted them to sound well, and they didn't care about the understandability (is this word clear?). The first 2 lines a Marta's song: Istenem Istenem My God, My God Vajon mi lelt engem What happenned to me Sorry for the poor information ! McRobi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 21:41:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Judge Cody Kirkwood Subject: MCMXC Limited To: Enigma Listserver I was absolutely DUMBFOUNDED when I saw the Limited Edition MCMXC at the Blockbuster Music in Lewisville, Texas. I asked the manager if this kind of importation occurs frequently, and he said that it was just a chance thing, that once in a while they get imports and the like from the producers. I did special order the Enigma 2 Special Limited Edition, but there has been no word of that as yet. My advice is to just comb every music location available near you every week or so. Limited editions still exist, but they are becoming very hard to find. ****************************************************************************** Judge Cody Kirkwood http://www.unt.edu/~judge/ judge@jove.acs.unt.edu The Eyes Of Truth Are Always Watching You There's always an option other than executing the Cobain manuever... ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:28:44 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: MCMXC Limited To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > I was absolutely DUMBFOUNDED when I saw the Limited Edition MCMXC >at the Blockbuster Music in Lewisville, Texas. I asked the manager if >this kind of importation occurs frequently, and he said that it was just >a chance thing, that once in a while they get imports and the like from >the producers. > I did special order the Enigma 2 Special Limited Edition, but >there has been no word of that as yet. My advice is to just comb every >music location available near you every week or so. Limited editions >still exist, but they are becoming very hard to find. I found mine at BlockBuster Music in Santa Cruz, CA. Interesting, huh? //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- Jeffry McGee mcgee@redshift.com ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Corey Daniel Leamon Subject: Me To: Enigma mailing list Hello, I am glad to be a part of the list and I thought I would turn in my homework now! My name is Corey Leamon. I am 19, and attend the University of California at Santa Cruz. My collection consists of both Enigma CD's. I heard them first on the radio once and they really caught my attention. Then a few months later my high school's video class used Sadeness in one of their broadcasts and I was hooked, completely. They are my favorite group as well as form of music. I also enjoy music from similar bands/singers such as Enya, Deep Forest, Kitaro, and Tangerine Dream, as well as a growing love for instrumental music, especially from movie scores (The Princess Bride, Braveheart, and Waterworld are all excellent scores). As far as my job is concerned, I have two of them. One is a computer consultant job, where I work on campus in a lab and answer questions, that sort of thing. The other is at The Red Lobster, I work as a busser, AC (food prep), and host. As far as classes go, I am working on creating my own major called Computer effects in film. I hope to eventually become a film writer, producer, director, and computer effects designer in the years to come. In fact a quick note on that, me and my best friend (also a huge Enigma fan) are hoping to create our own productions company and for our main project, a fantasy movie trilogy (one that we think will affect our generation like Star Wars did), we hope to employ Enigma to do the score/soundtrack. Well, I guess that's the low down on me for now, glad to be a part of the list! Corey/Draven ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 23:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Patrick Warren (sar)" Subject: me To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello! Bonjour! !Hola! My name is Pat Warren, though I prefer to be called Pablo. I am 18, and am, for another 5 days, attending New College of the University of South Florida. I am leaving school do begin my life. I am going back to Minnesota, where I will once again be working in a video store, one of my favorite things to do. My favorite pastime are learning and using languages. I speak Spanish and French, and I'm currently learning Italian, Russian, and German. I have a fierce belief in the trinity - a Dunn Bros. mocha steamer, a cold bottle of Yoo-Hoo, and straberry flavored Arizona. On the Enigma side of life, well it's not a side, rather woven through th ewhole of my life. I first heard Enigma on MTV 5 years ago; it was the video for Sadeness Part I. I always wanted that album thereafter, but I didn't figure out who it was until 2 years later. I bought the tape and something fell into place. I have listened to MCMXC a.D. several hundred times, and the music of Enigma now beautifully characterizes my life. I converted to CDs a year ago, and have since acquired the Limited Edition of MCMXC a.D., the Cross of Changes, and the singles for Out From the Deep, the Age of Loneliness, the Return to Innocence, and the Eyes of Truth. The best way I can describe my passion for the music of Enigma, and hence my passions in general, would be to tell you my reaction to finding the Enigma home pages. That was last night - my first night on www. I found out just how much of Mr. Cretu's music I do not have, and my blood began to surge. I want it all! Right now even my pulse must be around 300! I am an obsessive person, and Enigma is one of my greatest passions. The music is me. I have many special places - the right spots for the wild, rich sounds. There's a theatre I love to go to at night. The place is dark, except for some purple strip lights backstage I turn on. Then I put one of the CDs in and run it through the sound system, letting it fill the cavernous, obscure space and mingle with the feathery light as I sit or dance on the stage. It is very powerful. And in 5 days I'm going back where I can visit mi hogar any time I desire. You should all meet me there someday. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:19:28 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Mea Culpa To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au That's weird, I'm in Math currently (I've got a laptop for school) and the class clown (there's always one of those right?) was joking because the teacher made a mistake with a number. He ask her to make a sin, because she had told him that he had sinned before (only jokingly) but anyways she studied latin so she said Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, what a coincidence right? I'm telling U this just because I now know that everything in the lyrics of Mea Culpa is French except for Mea Culpa which is Latin (This was bugging me because I'm in French Immersion and I knew Mea Culpa was not French). |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 18:35:44 -0400 From: Jerry Smith Subject: Meanings... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Enigma fans, I find that the meaning is in the heart, the heart who wrote the words and music, in the hearts of those musicans who project the music and especially of the those who hear the music. I like to think of an old saying, " A Rose by any other name, is just as sweet." Let the music of Enigma move your soul, it can mean many things, at any moment. Let it surround you, be a part of you, let it touch your soul, emmerse your spirit. Be with love and peace. Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Television. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:22:42 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Me New Member :) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello there, My name is Neil Cutler, I'm sixteen and am a Enigma fan. I first heard of enigma and started to like them when I was being car-pooled to school and heard Return to Innocence. Then I went to my local British Colombia Games (I live in Canada, Duncan BC) and a competitor used Sadeness in her messical dressage (dressage can be explained as figure skating or gymnastics but on horseback) I ride by the way. Then I fell in love with it. I managed to get to the Nationals in Guelph Ontario, so my dad gave me some money for the trip, since this was the first chance that I had money, I went and bought MCMXad and Cross of Changes, and now when I listen to it, it bring back MAJOR memories! I also like soft rock, and one of my other favorites (but doesn't come close) is Celine Dion and I also enjoy techno, but there's no good radio stations around me :( I'm in 11 grade and taking Math and socials. I'd love to find out who else is a member, but this is my first mailing list I've joined so I will or have already scewed up. Thanx |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _) snail mail: | ,____| 2170 Cowichan Bay Rd. | / R.R.#1 Cowichan Bay BC V0R 1N0 data phone #:1(604)748-5715 voice phone #:1(604)-748-5089 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 9:58:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Harpreet Mann Subject: Me New Member :) To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Neil Welcome to the mailimg list Would you like to join techno mailing list. It is mainly for uk based only, but still a good laugh >From scol.london.sco.com!sco.sco.com!yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!owner-enigma Mon Oct 2 10:43:54 1995 >Message-Id: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:22:42 -0700 >To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >From: Neil Cutler >Subject: Me New Member :) >Sender: owner-enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Reply-To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > >Hello there, > > My name is Neil Cutler, I'm sixteen and am a Enigma fan. > > I first heard of enigma and started to like them when I was being >car-pooled to school and heard Return to Innocence. > > Then I went to my local British Colombia Games (I live in Canada, >Duncan BC) and a competitor used Sadeness in her messical dressage >(dressage can be explained as figure skating or gymnastics but on >horseback) I ride by the way. Then I fell in love with it. I managed to get >to the Nationals in Guelph Ontario, so my dad gave me some money for the >trip, since this was the first chance that I had money, I went and bought >MCMXad and Cross of Changes, and now when I listen to it, it bring back >MAJOR memories! > > I also like soft rock, and one of my other favorites (but doesn't >come close) is Celine Dion and I also enjoy techno, but there's no good >radio stations around me :( > > I'm in 11 grade and taking Math and socials. > > I'd love to find out who else is a member, but this is my first >mailing list I've joined so I will or have already scewed up. Thanx > >|\ | |\/\/\/| >| \ | | | >| \|eil Cutler | | > | (o)(o) >email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _) >snail mail: | ,____| > 2170 Cowichan Bay Rd. | / > R.R.#1 Cowichan Bay BC > V0R 1N0 >data phone #:1(604)748-5715 >voice phone #:1(604)-748-5089 > > ________________________________________________________________________ Harpreet Mann Email: harpreet@sco.com Information Systems Phone: +44 (0) 1923 813668 The Santa Cruz Operation Ltd Fax: +44 (0) 1923 813808 Hatters Lane, Watford, Herts, England WD1 8YN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:34:33 -0500 (EST) From: paulb@osiris (Paul Bournival) Subject: monks To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Walked into Newbury Comics on Saturday, and found a disk by a group of monks that I'd not heard of before. It was from (something like) "St. Bernadinstine Monks" and was advertised as Gregorian music. It was in the classical section. Has anyone heard this? Is it *really* all classical (wah) or perhaps parts are like MCMXC? Whilst in there, bought my first Deep Forest (their last release) rushed home, popped in the stereo, and my cd player of three years died playing the track "Marta's song". (more wah!!). Off to the repair depot on Tuesday.. What luck! -paulb ======================================================================== paulb@faxint.com "The time is come..." paulb@world.std.com -Michael Cretu paulb@shore.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:50:19 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: monks To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy, You wrote: > Walked into Newbury Comics on Saturday, and found a disk by > a group of monks that I'd not heard of before. It was from (something > like) "St. Bernadinstine Monks" and was advertised as Gregorian music. > It was in the classical section. Has anyone heard this? Is it > *really* all classical (wah) or perhaps parts are like MCMXC? It is traditional chants with no backing (dates back to 14th and 15th century chants)... This CD was quite popular last Christmas and has actually had a weird outcome - the monks who recorded the CD are now regretting it as their monastery has become a tourist attraction and they don't feel the music is getting the proper respect it should. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:09:08 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: monks To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Paul, > Walked into Newbury Comics on Saturday, and found a disk by > a group of monks that I'd not heard of before. It was from (something > like) "St. Bernadinstine Monks" and was advertised as Gregorian music. > It was in the classical section. Has anyone heard this? Is it > *really* all classical (wah) or perhaps parts are like MCMXC? This disc is called Chantmania, and is by the Benzedrine Monks of Monastery de Danto & Johnny (it is not the Canto Gregoriano album with the monks from Spain...). It contains "Gregorian chant" versions of songs like 'Losing My Religion' (released as a single), 'Do Ya Think I'm Sexy' and 'Smell's Like Teen Spirit'. Joar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 09:10:04 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: More bass line info.... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is Pete again with another lesson is bass lines (Rachelle, stop passing notes to Gavin). No, it's not another lesson. If you want to hear some more excellant bass lines, listen to Deep Forest. Why I didn't mention them before I don't know. Must of spaced out. Their bass lines are killer. Not real imaginative, but still killer. Listen to the full sound of Deep Forest and then pop in MCMXaD. Notice how much more of a balance there is in Deep Forest thanks to the oh so needed bass line. The ever annoying, Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 18:31:53 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: More bass line info.... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Oct 29, 9:10am, geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu wrote: > No, it's not another lesson. If you want to hear some more excellant > bass lines, listen to Deep Forest. Why I didn't mention them before I > don't know. Must of spaced out. Their bass lines are killer. Not real > imaginative, but still killer. Listen to the full sound of Deep Forest > and then pop in MCMXaD. Notice how much more of a balance there is in > Deep Forest thanks to the oh so needed bass line. Another musical element Deep Forest handle excellently is the lead lines, or solos. They often use elaborative runs, similar to that of '70s prog. music, ie. like Keith Emerson. The violin part of 'Marta's Song' is magnificent. This is also apparent in Dao Dezi's World Mix Album, which the two gentlemen in Deep Forest are behind. Joar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 03:53:22 -0400 From: aikman@onramp.net (Lance Lancaster) Subject: Music: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I first of all am very glad I got on this mailing list. I did not know much about Sandra's music but am listening to the first one I picked up for about the 33rd time today. Its amazing just when I thought I found all the music I thought I could like, I find Sandra. The fights and language don't bug me much, thank God it has died down, I just hit ctrl-d immediately. I'm still looking for anything on Hubert Kah, like WHERE I can get all the singles or anything else he's done other than the sound of my heart album, the remix album, tensongs and goldene zieten. Wow I love hearing the voice from Hubert Kah as backup on Sandra, awesome. Question: There is a car commerical which shows Barry Sanders running around with some pretty awesome moves, and while it is showing this football player makes his moves, it is playing some Enigma-like music with a very unique beat to it, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this song. Lance Lance Lancaster a.k.a. "Aikman" Moderator Specialist for IVS Corporation DWANGO - The ULTIMATE High-Speed Multi-Player Gaming Network ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 10:38:46 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Musical elements of Enigma To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I think that I should clerify what I mean by "bass lines." When I say bass line, I am not reffering to the bass drum. Enigma has great bass drum parts. The bass line that I am referring to is the part that would be played by a bass guitar or in Enigma's case, a synthesizer emulating the bass guitar part. To hear what I am talking about, listen to track 6 on MCMXCAD "Knocking on Forbidden Doors." 1:30 into the song the bass line starts. Can you hear how much fuller the music sounds with the bass line. If you listen to MCMXCAD, barely any of the tracks have a bass line. Some of the tracks have absolutly no bass what so ever (once again I am not talking about bass drum). My opinion is that a great bass line can make a good song an outstanding song. Class dismissed =(;-) Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 03:47:23 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Musical elements of Enigma To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Again... very nice insight...thank you for sharing...I will listen more closely to song 6... LJR I P.S. Hi Angel Rachelle!!! :) On Sat, 28 Oct 1995 geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu wrote: > the bass guitar part. To hear what I am talking about, listen to track 6 > on MCMXCAD "Knocking on Forbidden Doors." 1:30 into the song the bass > line starts. Can you hear how much fuller the music sounds with the bass > line. If you listen to MCMXCAD, barely any of the tracks have a bass > line. Some of the tracks have absolutly no bass what so ever (once again > I am not talking about bass drum). My opinion is that a great bass line > can make a good song an outstanding song. > > Class dismissed =(;-) > > Peter C. Geisheker > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:04:20 +0000 From: "Christopher Silveira" Subject: My thoughts on MCMXC a.d. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I definitely agree that MCMXC a.d. is definitely sexually inspired music. But, some songs actually have deeper messages also IMHO. Take Principles of Lust, it is not only about sexual intimicies (sp?), but also about self-discovery. It talks about finding a burning lust deep inside yourself. And then there is the two part Sadeness-Mea Culpa. I have thought about these two for a while and there are a different theories I have come up with. The most interesting to me though is the subject of sado-masichism (sp?). The first part, Sadeness Part I IMO, is being asked to the Marquee de Sade in his pursuit of carnal knowledge. The lyrics ask "Sade, tell me what are you looking for? The Good, the Bad, the Virtue..." Sade seems to be having an inner struggle between what is right and wrong with God, and from the sound of his voice when he declares "I am the Marquee de Sade!", it sounds like his self discovery is causing him to maybe 'fall from grace'? Now look at Mea Culpa Part II. This is from a woman's point of view. It is also about a struggle. Her struggle seems to be between possible feelings of failure and her lover. She seems to almost be saying, "It's my fault, I am yours." These two songs compliment each other very well. With Sadeness, there is a religious man fighting with the severity of his sexual desires and fantasies. Whereas with Mea Culpa, there is a woman fighting with a need to 'repent' for her inadequacies which manifest themselves though her masichistic sexual desires. Maybe her lover is actually the Marquee himself? Hmm... The above is only my opinion, and if this is old information to you the readers, I apologize. I just figured this might get a discussion going where we all might dig into the songs mentally and emotionally, and maybe have a little self-discovery while we are at it. Just a thought... See ya!!!! ---------------------------------- Christopher Silveira aka eric longfellow (the lost dj) csil@hooked.net chris_silveira@pagenet.com http://www.hooked.net:80/users/csil/ -=(UDIC)=- "Junior Dragon" "This our house, and our house miusic!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 03:03:21 -0400 From: Page127@aol.com Subject: Newcomer To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Welcome to the Enigma list. Hope you find enjoyable common ground. How do you like "The Videos"? Does anyone have a copy of the Japanese laserdic, or know how they can be obtained? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:00:31 -0500 From: Bennett Family Subject: New Member To: "'enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au'" Name:Timothy Michael Age:34 Collection consist of MCMXC a.D.and Cross Of Changes some taped video... Other artist I enjoy: I will listen to anything that appeals to my = senses.. favorites do include Sade,Earth Wind & Fire,Simply Red,Jethro Tull,Pink Floyd... First heard Enigma's "Mea Culpa" over the car radio and went nuts = tracking down the group who performed the song... I find Enigma touches alot of senses to the point of being orgasmic its = richness is awesome and find little music to compare...with the = exception of Sade. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:32:12 -0500 (CDT) From: TARA J CHAMBERS Subject: New member information To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au --Hello My name is Tara Chambers,I am an English/Education major at the University of Tennessee at Martin, and I am 20 years old. Although my collection of Enigma is limited to only to MCMXC.a.d, I have been trying to find the second CD. However, one can't always find Enigma at the local Wal-Mart unfortunatly. I first heard Enigma from a friend of mine who bought the first tape. I've loved the group eversince then. As for other artists, I love Enya, Chopin & various other classical musicians, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, P.J. Harvey, and even Nina Simone when I am in the mood to here Blues. As for other interesting information, I was watching "Boxing Helina" and was pleasently surprised to hear "Sadeness" as one of the songs on the soundtrack. I am very happy to be a part of the Enigma mailing list. Thank you, Tara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 08:32:10 GMT From: ritahd@ix.netcom.com (Rita H Delaune) Subject: New member information To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au If you want to hear more Enigma, try the soundtrack to Sliver - it contains several songs from Enigma - that's how I learned of them! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:43:43 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: New member information To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'll admit that Sliver does have some great Enigma, but check out the CD single to "Age Of Loneliness," what was once "Carly's Song." The Enigmatic Club Mix can't be beat for pure dance energy! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 21:14:43 PDT From: kclouser@brutus.bright.net Subject: New member information To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'll admit that Sliver does have some great Enigma, but check out the CD single to "Age Of Loneliness," what was once "Carly's Song." The Enigmatic Club Mix can't be beat for pure dance energy! That sucks , I'm only 15 (I was 14) and my parents rented sliver and they wouldn't let me watch it because they said there was to much sexual content.....But I know I'll be going to see scarlet letter alot (on dates)...Well take it easy yall.. Ben A quote from me: "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!?!?!?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 12:59:44 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: New member introduction To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. My name is Pete Geisheker (don't attemp to say the last name, you will hurt yourself). I'm 24 years old. My Enigma collection consists of: MCMXC a.D., The Cross of Change, and Sadness part I (Various Mixes). I first heard Enigma on MTV. I am a composer myself and have been writing since about 11-12 years old. I write music similair to Enigma and was just astounded that somebody else was writing music in the same style and people liked it. I was both thrilled and disapointed at the same time because I found out there is a market for that type of music but that somebody else had opened it and was doing a better job of creating that particular type of music than I was. You have to understand that creating this type of music is a very expensive process due to all of the synthesizers and samplers that are necessary for its creation. I am a college student so and vast financial resources are not available. Other artists I like are Deep Forest (when I'm in the mood) Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, Patrick O'Hearn, Hisham, Sade, Sting, Pink Floyd, Special Effects (new age fusion jazz), Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, and many others. I am a full-tme college student majoring in both Biology and Psychology. Interesting info: As I mentioned, I'm a composer, I've written several radio commercials, composed music for theater, and a local orchestra is going to be performing a song I composed =(;-} I guess that's about it. If anybody would like to talk to me privately with email, please feel free. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 13:51:52 MEZ From: h9550275@gutemine.wu-wien.ac.at (Juergen Smutek) Subject: new one To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The Owls are not what they seem !!! I'm new in the Enigma-MailingList and so I want to tell you some things you want(wan't?) to know about me My name is Juergen Smutek, but you can call me Dale. I'm 21 years old and from Austria;Vienna (No jumping animals around!!!). I enjoy Enigma very much and since 1994 (Return to Innocence;The Cross of Changes) I L O V E Enigma. My favorite songs are: The Rivers of Belief, Silent Warrior and The Twilight of the Gods (Eyes of Truth). I like playing games and TwinPeaks (I like Kyle MacLachlan very much). I think Curly MC is the a great man and his music is so beautiful that I hear Enigma every day. 1990 is the best CD I have ever heard. That's enough for the Beginning and remember: The Eyes of Truth are always watching you. Dale Cooper PS: The EMPIRE never has to strike back !!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:50:17 BST From: hughie is a nobcheese Subject: new subsriber! info..... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au well, as advised in my lovely introductory letter, I suppose I had better introduce myself.... My name is Jon Perkins (please excuse the awful surname) and I'm studying English at the University of York, England. I'm 19, but please don't hold that against me. I should imagine that I have a very average collection... the two albums (special edition MCMXCaD, of course), and various CD singles, nothing rare, as far as I'm aware! I have a very varied musical taste, although this does not mean I am one of those people who like 'anything in the charts', in fact I hate most things in the charts. CD's in my collection include Peter Gabriel, Sting, Simple Minds, Enya,The Smiths,The Sundays,Jean-Michel Jarre and also a large selection of house and techno (the happier and bouncier the better). Is this love of dance music and clubbing general to Enigma fans? Also, if you like Enigma and Deep Forest and the like, then why not try 'Passion' by Peter Gabriel- it's the soundtrack to Scorcese's 'Last Temptation of Christ', and is quite fine, in my opinion. Anyone else in York? let me know... Thanks for your time (if you've actually read up to here!) byeeeee Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:20:35 -0600 From: english@galaxy.galstar.com (Jim English) Subject: New US MCMXCaD laser disc? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hey there was talk a while back about a US release of the MCMXC aD video album on laser disc coming out Sept 30th. Did it come out? Whats the latest on this? -jim -- _____________________________________________________________________________ english@galaxy.galstar.com - Jim English "Oh great! You just shot the invisible swordsman!" -Three Amigos _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:11:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: NON ENIGMA: Sarah Brightman To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hey does anyone know the exact release date of Sarah Brightman's "Surrender?" Thanks. Shan P.S Please e-mail privately, so as not to clutter the list. E-mail at sh002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn:C()R()N/\ Je Veux Aller Au Bout De Mes Fantasmes:Mea Culpa|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 15:43:50 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: No Subject To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I thought Sandra was the woman in the "Sadeness" video. Not sure on the woman in "Mea Culpa" tho. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 13:22:57 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Out from the Deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Out from the Deep sounds so much like another song (I can't rremember the song's name) But is it just me? |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:07:29 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: place to chat To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au How many people, here use IRC? that could be maybe a possibility. |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 18:11:00 GMT From: "N.W.Kay -Nick Kay" Subject: possible help To: Enigma Can anyone tell me where I can obtain the following:- CD - Principles of Lust CD - Rivers of Belief CD - The Eyes of Truth CD - Out from the Deep Also the following videos as I have never seen any of these:- Enigma MCMXC a.d. - Chart Video Enigma Mea Culpa - Chart Video ( and any others if available) I have ordered Enigma MCMXC a.D the complete video album but Im not sure if I am going to be able to aquire this through my supplier. Any Advice , help whatever will be appreciated, as I did not know any of this existed until I found the Homepage! Laters Nik ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:46:30 -0700 (MST) From: CWERTZ@cc.weber.edu Subject: Quick "Strange Days" review To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'm mildly surprised that no one on the list has talked too much about the Deep Forest songs on the Strange Days soundtrack. This being the case, I decided to pop in a quick mini-review, so here goes: Now, I haven't had much time to listen to the whole album, so what follows is basically my thoughts of the songs I've listened to the most. The theme of the whole soundtrack seems to be geared toward the Alternative/Modern Rock type of music, with a rap song by Me Phi Me. Track #4: Deep Forest "Coral Lounge" 3:27 This is a pretty fast-paced, techno-like song. The beat is faster than most of what's on Boheme. There are samples from the Amis tribe and the Puyuma tribe. Most of the samples on this track come from _The Music of the Aborigines on Taiwan Island_, but none are the same as the ones used on Boheme's songs. Overall, this track sounds like a throwback to the first Deep Forest album; at least it sounds like it could've come from the first album to me. I like it; it's pretty good, albeit kinda short. Track #13 Deep Forest w/ Peter Gabriel "While the Earth Sleeps" 3:50 I must admit, when I first heard that Peter Gabriel was going to be singing on a Deep Forest song, I was a bit apprehensive. I mean c'mon, Peter is a guy who sang about sledgehammers and shocking his monkey, for God's sake!:) But, I was very pleasantly surprised when I finally heard "While the Earth Sleeps". I'm sure some of you might've heard the beginning of it when the Strange Days commercial aired. I'm very happy to say that Peter doesn't actually sing in this track; he chants, and it sounds very good. It fits right in with Deep Forest's style. Peter's actually in a duet with a woman by the name of Kate Petrova, and they kind of take turns chanting the song (sorry folks, I have no idea what language it's in). The beat of this track is also on the fast side, with lots of Peter's voice samples being scrambled and moved from your left speaker to your right; it's a pretty good effect, and I feel it's done well. To me, this song alone is worth buying the whole soundtrack. It's that good. Other tracks I listen to are "The Real Thing" by Lords of Acid, and "Fall in the Light" by Lori Carson & Graeme Revell. Overall, I like what I hear on the soundtrack, but the two Deep Forest songs are the best tracks, as far as I'm concerened. As for the movie itself... well, I'm still trying to decide if I liked it or not... It was pretty weird. If you have questions or comments, send 'em to me at: cwertz@cc.weber.edu - Charlie Wertz Weber State University Ogden, Utah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:04:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Dixon Subject: Quick "Strange Days" review To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au -Charlles _WSU_ If you like Strange Days there is a WWW page for it go "http://strange.com" (I think!.) Anyway you can d-load a free screen saver, with voice overs, music clips and text not too bad. Alex Dixon New Jersey digimess@crow.cybercomm.net P.s. Both my went to Weber! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 22:18:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Quick "Strange Days" review To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au There is a Strange Days site at http://strangedays.com. Zokakon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:14:52 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: Quick "Strange Days" review To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > I'm mildly surprised that no one on the list has talked too much about the >Deep Forest songs on the Strange Days soundtrack. This being the case, I >decided to pop in a quick mini-review, so here goes: > > Now, I haven't had much time to listen to the whole album, so what follows is >basically my thoughts of the songs I've listened to the most. The theme of the >whole soundtrack seems to be geared toward the Alternative/Modern Rock type of >music, with a rap song by Me Phi Me. > > Track #4: Deep Forest "Coral Lounge" 3:27 >This is a pretty fast-paced, techno-like song. The beat is faster than most of >what's on Boheme. There are samples from the Amis tribe and the Puyuma tribe. >Most of the samples on this track come from _The Music of the Aborigines on >Taiwan Island_, but none are the same as the ones used on Boheme's songs. >Overall, this track sounds like a throwback to the first Deep Forest album; at >least it sounds like it could've come from the first album to me. I like it; >it's pretty good, albeit kinda short. > > Track #13 Deep Forest w/ Peter Gabriel "While the Earth Sleeps" 3:50 >I must admit, when I first heard that Peter Gabriel was going to be singing on >a Deep Forest song, I was a bit apprehensive. I mean c'mon, Peter is a guy who >sang about sledgehammers and shocking his monkey, for God's sake!:) But, I was >very pleasantly surprised when I finally heard "While the Earth Sleeps". I'm >sure some of you might've heard the beginning of it when the Strange Days >commercial aired. I'm very happy to say that Peter doesn't actually sing in >this track; he chants, and it sounds very good. It fits right in with Deep >Forest's style. Peter's actually in a duet with a woman by the name of Kate >Petrova, and they kind of take turns chanting the song (sorry folks, I have no >idea what language it's in). The beat of this track is also on the fast side, >with lots of Peter's voice samples being scrambled and moved from your left >speaker to your right; it's a pretty good effect, and I feel it's done well. >To me, this song alone is worth buying the whole soundtrack. It's that good. > > Other tracks I listen to are "The Real Thing" by Lords of Acid, and "Fall in >the Light" by Lori Carson & Graeme Revell. Overall, I like what I hear on the >soundtrack, but the two Deep Forest songs are the best tracks, as far as I'm >concerened. As for the movie itself... well, I'm still trying to decide if I >liked it or not... It was pretty weird. > > If you have questions or comments, send 'em to me at: > cwertz@cc.weber.edu > >- >Charlie Wertz >Weber State University >Ogden, Utah The movie was killer, the soundtrack is good, but it left out half or more of the songs in the movie. There were five Deep Forest songs used in the movie, but only two weren't on the Boheme album. The DF songs are great, as usual, and, just for the sake of mentioning it, the sexy Juliette Lewis does a killer cover of a PJ Harvey tune. Enjoy! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:31:18 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: Quick "Strange Days" review To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > The movie was killer, the soundtrack is good, but it left out half or more > of the songs in the movie. There were five Deep Forest songs used in the > movie, but only two weren't on the Boheme album. The DF songs are great, > as usual, and, just for the sake of mentioning it, the sexy Juliette Lewis > does a killer cover of a PJ Harvey tune. > > Enjoy! > > Just one question though! What songs did they use in the movie that appeared also on Boheme?? I know that Coral Lounge and While The Earth Sleeps are on the Strange Days sountrack, but you mention there are five Deep Forest songs used in the movie, but only two aren't on Boheme. Just what songs are they?? I want to see the movie, and I hope I can find a copy of the soundtrack!! See Ya! Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 16:59:50 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: Quick "Strange Days" review To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Just one question though! What songs did they use in the >movie that appeared also on Boheme?? I know that Coral > Lounge and While The Earth Sleeps are on the Strange Days >sountrack, but you mention there are five Deep Forest > songs used in the movie, but only two aren't on Boheme. >Just what songs are they?? > I want to see the movie, and I hope I can find a copy >of the soundtrack!! See Ya! I can't recall. But when I watched the credits, there were five songs listed from Deep Forest and I checked them when I got home with my Boheme CD, and three of them were on it. The other two are on the Strange Days Soundtrack, which I later bought. Both songs on the soundtrack are great, as well as the songs on the album. P.S. Anyone else have the Strange Days Promo CD-ROM? It's bitchin! I got it with the October 19th Rolling Stone Magazine. //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- Jeffry McGee mcgee@redshift.com ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 21:16:00 GMT From: Michael Subject: Re: Favorite Enigma Moment To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In your message dated Thursday 5, October 1995 you wrote : > Hello everyone - > > My favorite 'moment' happened about a month ago. I had some friends > over one nightand I was spinning some really hard trance (I'm a > little-known house dj). Anyway, I was really getting into itand so > was everyone else. Well, I threw in this wicked remix of Age of > Loneliness I have on a ltd. edition picture disc. It is one of the > hardest mixes of Enigma that I have. My friends went nuts! They had > no clue that there was a hard trance mix of any Enigma song. The Jam > & Spoon remix of Age of Loneliness is VERY good, but it is too slow > to throw in a mix. Well anyway, it was just priceless to see the > looks on their faces when they realized that it was Enigma. Has > anyone heard it by chance? To put it succinctly, it kicks ass!!! > Have fun!!! 8P > -- Is the track you talking about the 'Enigmatic Club Mix' --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reality Sux | | Imagination is the ultimate Reality | | | | Mike EMail Mike@cryo.demon.co.uk | | CryoNet | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 95 09:22:50 EDT From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: regarding sarcasm... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just a quick note, especially since this is WAY OFF TOPIC. Please remember that sarcasm is harder to recognize in the written word then when heard verbally. It lacks the appropriate tonal inflection and any visual cues you might give. This is especially true when it comes in the form of cri- ticism. Now, somewhat on topic. I saw the promo for the Scarlet Letter the other night and sure enough, the music was an Enigma song. I'm wondering if some of their other work will be included in the soundtrack. (My mother thought my reaction was my remembrance for how much I hated the book. Imagine her surprise when I started to talk about the music... ;) Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:51:03 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Reminders To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. Just a few gentle reminders: 1. Off topic conversation on the list has been a bit too high recently. Please think of the 400+ other members before deciding to send a message to the list, especially if a private email would be better. 2. Please do NOT send messages to enigma-digest@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au They should be sent to enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au instead. 3. So many members unsubscribe the wrong way!!!! You unsubscribe at Majordomo@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au and NOT enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 06:50:13 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: Reminders To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Gavin Wrote: Hi all. Just a few gentle reminders: > >1. Off topic conversation on the list has been a bit too high recently. > Please think of the 400+ other members before deciding to send a > message to the list, especially if a private email would be better. >Cheers, > >Gavin Stok >(Enigma Mailing List President) Salutations Enigmites, I want everyone to know that I truly 'enjoy' and 'get a kick' out of recieving many of your messages you send in to the Enigma Mailing List. However, I have to agree with Gavin. There have been many 'off the wall' messages sent in lately. We must all think of eachother! Many members have written in Replying that they are going to quit the mailing list, because they have been recieving too many unrelated messages and have not got the time, nor desire to read them. Also, Jokes have seemed to be a relative reason for such a decision. Please note that "some of us are more sensitive than other's". One must not use somebody in a joke, if it is going to offend them. One can usually recognize, by intuitive instinct (from reading a person's previous messages), if he or she would become upset or down when certain subjects or jokes are told about them. There are those of us who will simply take a joke as a friendly funny gesture, with no second thought's. But as I said before: "Some of us are more Sensitive than other's." We must all consider eachother's feelings. If we do this, the SOUL PURPOSE of the ENIGMA MAILING LIST will be truly evident. The purpose of this Mailing list is to promote the Inspiration of Enigma's music. To inform and update the going's on of Enigma (and other likened music groups), and to give light to their many asspiring messages. :) Forever Keep Smiling Everyone!!!!!!:) Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 14:50:08 -0400 From: Roman.Goujva@cyber.widener.edu Subject: Reply to I'm sorta new To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, My name is Roman Goujva. I'm at Widener University, USA. I first heard about E nigma in 1990 back in U.S.S.R. ( I used live there.). My collection consist of a ll singels of sadaness part I and both alboms. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:27:22 +0100 From: tba Subject: Reply to Laurel's letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Name:Steve Martin Age:18 My Enigma colection is about as big as I can get it although given the chance I would love to increase it greatly. I have MCMXC a.d. the LP and the special edition on CD. I have the CROSS of changes on CD (both the standard and special edition). I have a lot of the singles including the eyes of truth on cd cd (special edition) and vinal. I first heard MCMXC a.d. around my cousins house about five years ago. I loved it. I got a copy and later baught the CD. My collection went from there. I have tried to the enigma fan club. No go. I've tried to get accessories also with no luck. With the new info. I found on the net I may have more luck. Other music tastes......Quite a few actually. Quick run down on my CD collection. R.E.M., KLF, Various rock CD's, T'PAU and Van Halen. Check out Van Halen's Balance a couple of tracks are like enigma but the CD's just great anyway. Laurel, Where are you from, please give a few details. I'm 18 as I said, I come from UK England, the south east but am currently in the south studying engineering. Having a great time. You can talk to me directly on talker (the address is HTTP://www2.INFI.NET:80/TALKER). Go there and goto the ENIGMA room. Leave a message there to arrange a chat time. Reply soon. ENIGMA- If you believe in light its because of obscurity And if you believe in god then you must believe in the devil. Remember that and the music we all take ear to. LOVE TO DOLPHINS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 22:15:26 -0400 From: Roman.Goujva@cyber.widener.edu Subject: Reply to Re: Welcome to enigma To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've heard that last version of Sadeness supposed to be released in the beginnin g of the September. Did anyone hear or see that release? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 16:20:54 PDT From: kclouser@brutus.bright.net Subject: Requested Info!(Please?) To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi , in case any of you didn't know , My name is Ben Clouser from The U.S. (Ohio) , I signed up her a month or two ago. 1st I'd like to say thanx to Enigma for singing such wonderfull & easy to remember songs , I was auditoning for high school Honors Chior an I was using the song "Return to Innoconce" I was shocked to find that there wasn't a cd player in the building , so I had to sing it without music , It was ok , but I still made honors chior!! AAAAAAAAAAAnyway , I was wondering if I could get the background on each enigma member , And this would be kinda nice , Could I possibly get any Lyrics from the upcoming Enigma III Album!?!?!? Thanks Ben... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 14:32:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "It's me again..." Subject: return to innocence <===> freedom cry To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au hey -- i got an intruiging thought :) you know the guy on the second enigma album that sings on the song return to innocence.. well.. i was listening to boheme by deep forest the other day and i found a striking similarity in their voices.. any input?? ideas? 00 zerozero@paranoia.com http://www.paranoia.com/~zerozero we are young - we run green keep our teeth - nice and clean see our friends - see the sights feel alright - supergrass ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:39:02 -0700 (MST) From: CWERTZ@cc.weber.edu Subject: REVIEW: Dao Dezi "World Mix Album" To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Okay, here is a review that I should've done a long time ago, but I just never had the time. Quick disclaimer: This review is just my opinion. If you don't like it, that's just too bad :). Dao Dezi is a side project by Deep Forest's Eric Mouquet (Deep Forest's other half, Michel Sanchez, also contributes). The album is Enigma-like in the sense that there's a dance beat on most of the tracks, usually accompanied by ambient New Age sounds and chanting (or in this case, singing) in a different language. Now, I personally don't really give much thought about what languages the songs are sung/chanted in, but for those of you who are curious about that sort of thing, I've learned through various sources that the languages used are Celtic and French. Here's a quick track-by-track overview: Track 1: Hebrides 4:53 This song opens up with some synthesized bits of music and a sampled chant that is similar to some of Deep Forest's stuff. At 45 seconds, the beat kicks in and so does Denez Prigent's rapid-fire vocals. In between the vocals, you can hear sampled chanting that, by some odd coincidence, sounds like Deep Forest could've done it. The beat is pretty good, and there are lots of samples of bagpipes and other exotic sounding instruments. Overall, this is a good start for the album, and I find myself listening to this particular track quite a bit. Track 2: La Jument De Mishao (Love Palace Mix) 4:03 This track is sung entirely in French. Now, I don't know French, but thanks to my college education, I was able to decipher the title ;) Loosely translated, it means "The Judgement of Mishao". This track is actually a song; it's not a "chant" track. It's got a pretty good beat, but of course I have no idea what the song is about. It's not bad, though. Like Hebrides, there are lots of bagpipe samples. Track 3: Kokerikero 4:24 Well, here is what I consider to be the most annoying track on the album. It's got a relentless techno beat and lots of cool bagpipe samples... but the vocals are horribly annoying. Everything is sung in threes: you hear a guy singing "yo-yo-yo, ko-ko-ko, buk-buk-buk" basically over and over again. This song just gets on my nerves. Track 4: Ti Eliz Iza 7:40 This is the song that got me interested in Dao Dezi in the first place. Denez Prigent is the lead vocalist for this song, and unlike Hebrides, he sings pretty slowly. This track has kind of a melancholy feel to it; Prigent's voice sounds mournful, and the beat is slow and measured. This is my favorite track on the whole album. I especially like toward the end of the song when a chorus chants the last few lines... it almost sounds like Gregorian chant... Track 5: Tri Martolod 4:34 This is another track with a relentless techno beat, but I'm happy to report the vocals aren't anywhere near as annoying as Kokerikero's. This time, there are violin samples interspersed within the beat along with the bagpipes. Overall, I like this track, though I don't listen to it often. Track 6: The King of the Fairies :20 I'm not really sure why this track is here. I'm at a loss of words on how to describe it, other than the fact that it's twenty seconds long, and it's tacked on to the end of Tri Martolod. A waste, IMO. Track 7: Gaspesie 3:12 There is no beat and no chanting on this track. It's just nice New Age type music. A violin is the main instrument here; there's also some harp sounds and some bagpipes. This track is sort of out-of-place on the album, but it's still pretty nice. Track 8: An Tri Bruer (Love Palace Mix) 3:44 This track opens up with a bagpipe playing, then the beat kicks in along with Denez Prigent's rapid-fire vocals. Sound familiar? Well, this track does seem similar to Hebrides, but you'll notice that the beat is different and somewhat slower, there's no sampled chants, and the bagpipes are used more often. Overall, it's a pretty good track. Track 9: 11.11.93 4:05 The first 1:15 is just a steady THUMP-thump beat... then the beat stops and a violin starts playing, accompanied by various whistles, harps, and bagpipes. It's more New Age stuff, except this sounds like it belongs on an epic movie score. At 4:00 the THUMP-thump beat returns, and we cut into.... Track 10: Digor 1:20 .... this track, which is basically someone talking over the THUMP-thump beat. 11.11.93 and Digor don't really appeal to me, so I generally skip them. Tracks 11, 12, and 13 are all sub-par Ti Eliz Iza remixes, and I won't go into them here. I will tell you that they are pretty lame. Overall, if I was to put this album on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the best, I'd give it a solid 7. Hebrides, Ti Eliz Iza, and An Tri Bruer are all excellent tracks, but the rest of the album is either annoying or out-of-place. I do recommend this album, however. It's different, and different is always good, as far as I'm concerned. There's another album out there sounds very similar to this one called Stone Edge, and I'll be reviewing it soon. As always, if you've got questions or comments, throw 'em to me at cwertz@cc.weber.edu Enjoy! Charlie Wertz Weber State University Ogden, Utah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:36:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Nguyen Subject: Sarah Brightman To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au wot's the name of Sarah's new album called again? anyone got title, track, and time of the songs? and is Frank Peterson behind her music again? thanks. -Paul Nguyen st8av@bayou.uh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 14:03:41 GMT From: harry@g3server.sc.ti.com (Harry Ahluwalia) Subject: Sarah Brightman To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au DEAR NETTERS, PLS LET ME ALSO KNOW THE NAME OF SARAH'S NEW ALBUM. I AM HER ARDENT FAN AND HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR NEW ALBUMS. I ONLY HAVE HER "DIVE" ALBUM - EXCELLENT PIECE OF WORK. REGARDS, HARRY AHLUWALIA. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:44:55 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: Sarah Brightman To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > PLS LET ME ALSO KNOW THE NAME OF SARAH'S NEW ALBUM. I AM HER ARDENT FAN AND > HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR NEW ALBUMS. I ONLY HAVE HER "DIVE" ALBUM - EXCELLENT > PIECE OF WORK. Yes, DIVE is an excellent CD! It, too, like has been discussed around here, is an excellent "making love" CD. "Once In A Lifetime" really does it for me. Even when listening to the CD when not making love, the music evokes such a surge of intensity to my soul. It's as if Sarah reaches in and stirs up my insides and puts a smile on my face. :-) "All hands on deck..." Peace. John "The Bagel Boy" Ingram - Mountain View, California bagelboy@best.com http://www.best.com/~bagelboy john@betterbagel.com http://www.betterbagel.com/bbi.html In our lives we come across many choices. Taking the initiative to make a choice is the first step in creating our own achievments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 10:47:47 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: Sarah Brightman To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, > >> PLS LET ME ALSO KNOW THE NAME OF SARAH'S NEW ALBUM. I AM HER ARDENT FAN AND >> HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR NEW ALBUMS. I ONLY HAVE HER "DIVE" ALBUM - EXCELLENT >> PIECE OF WORK. > > >Yes, DIVE is an excellent CD! It, too, like has been discussed around >here, is an excellent "making love" CD. "Once In A Lifetime" really does >it for me. Even when listening to the CD when not making love, the music >evokes such a surge of intensity to my soul. It's as if Sarah reaches in >and stirs up my insides and puts a smile on my face. :-) The new Sarah album is called "Surrender" and is due to be released at the end of this month. I don't have any other info, but as soon as I have I'll let you all know. Indeed "Dive" is a very good album, but she made more albums before, "As I came of age" and another album which I can't get anymore and of wich I don't remember the title. Also she did a lot of work with her former husband Andrew Lloyd Webber. "As I came of age" is also a very good album, (Frank Peterson didn't do anything at that album), and if you like normal pop/rock music you should try it out. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 17:34:50 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: Sarah Brightman discography To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all Sarah fans, I just created the Sarah Brightman discography. Since some people asked on this list about Sarah releases I thought I'd let you know. The discography can be seen at : http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/disco/sarah.htm For the latest info I have, and links to Sarah info on the internet see : http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/artists/sarah/index.htm If anyone has additional info to the discography, or knows places to find Sarah info on the internet please let me know it. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:58:44 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Scarlet Letter To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I heard on a local radio station (101.5 Star FM) that the Scarlet Letter was not worth it, they said it was so much different then the book they used, and made the joke about how back in those days women would not wear *nearly* as much lip gloss. I know one of the members here was going to see in today (Friday) what was it like *did* it use enigma as a soundtrack? |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 09:30:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Neil Cutler wrote: > I heard on a local radio station (101.5 Star FM) that the Scarlet Letter > was not worth it, they said it was so much different then the book they > used, and made the joke about how back in those days women would not wear > *nearly* as much lip gloss. I know one of the members here was going to see > in today (Friday) what was it like *did* it use enigma as a soundtrack? > Hello I didn't see the film but I know that they use Enigma's music in their publicity. I don't know if they use it for the soundtrack. If so, is that the "original" version or a "remix" ?? _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:32:00 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Scarlet Letter To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Gee that's too bad that the Scarlet Letter has only a bit of Enigma music, I would of gone if they had more of it, guess they lost a customer ;) |\ | |\/\/\/| --/ | \ | | | //\ ____/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | )) ( )___)__ | (o)(o) // // | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan | / Mia, "Well, I'm sure he "won't mind me cutting "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "this LITTLE corner!" "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:11:34 -0400 From: GolferDude@aol.com Subject: Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Saw "Scarlet Letter" on Sunday (Oct 15). Unlike the trailer, Enigma's music is not part of the soundtrack for the movie itself. However, I did find the music to be the best part of the film. It was another lush, romantic score by John Barry. Beautiful!! (John Barry also composed the music for films such as "Out of Africa", "Dances with Wolves", "Somewhere in Time" and 80% of the James Bond movies.) I'm looking forward to buying the soundtrack on CD. Guess we'll have to wait for other films to come along and use Engima's music. - GolferDude ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 14:43:28 EDT From: dfitzpat@skidmore.edu (Daniel Fitzpatrick) Subject: Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Saw "Scarlet Letter" on Sunday (Oct 15). Unlike the trailer, Enigma's music >is not part of the soundtrack for the movie itself. > >However, I did find the music to be the best part of the film. It was >another lush, romantic score by John Barry. Beautiful!! (John Barry also >composed the music for films such as "Out of Africa", "Dances with Wolves", >"Somewhere in Time" and 80% of the James Bond movies.) > >I'm looking forward to buying the soundtrack on CD. > >Guess we'll have to wait for other films to come along and use Engima's >music. > > >- GolferDude > > where can i find the trailer for "scarlet letter"? -dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:18:12 -0400 From: Gnostic7@aol.com Subject: Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au the trailer I saw for this film had the music of Loreena McKennett NOT Enigma on it. Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 09:33:04 EDT From: dfitzpat@skidmore.edu (Daniel Fitzpatrick) Subject: Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >the trailer I saw for this film had the music of Loreena >McKennett NOT Enigma on it. > >Christopher > > does anyone out there know where i can find this trailer for the scarlet letter? im interested in seeing it if i can only find it... -dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:07:23 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Scarlet letter music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au For one thing, I know it is Enigma, but I'm not positive what music it is, it was bugging me, so I sat down and listed to the tape, I thought it was Eyes of the Truth, wasn't it? |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| IRC Handle: StripLien | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I dissect, at least I'm not annoying" :) "When God created man, She made a mistake" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:49:21 -0500 From: Lynda Prime Subject: Self Introduction To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello: My name is Lynda June Prime. In earth years I am 47 years old... but I am one of the "new age" thinkers and therefore get stopped on the street by 20 year old's to compliment me on my physical condition. I have a very unique life.. I am a Wicca and believe that all life is sacred, we share this planet with a great diversity of living creatures. I share my life with a Jack Russell Terrier, who DOES NOT hunt. I listen to Enigma everyday... I love the Moody Blues, Supertramp, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, The Doors, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Nature tapes with classical music, any native music, any folk music, actually I like all types of music except the Country Western that is depressing. I promote Positive Mental Attitude. I will have my own home page soon thru Xenon Laboratories, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. My long lost son whom I was re-united with after 20 some odd years is the CEO at Xenon Labs. . I have three sons, one in Victoria who is like myself, one in Toronto who turned out to be a Mensa and one in Winnipeg, Manitoba whom I am about to meet after a 28 year wait... GREAT HEY! All my sons are music lovers and Sean in Victoria whom I will pass my Wiccan spirit down to one day LOVES ENIGMA big time. I work in Ottawa Canada as a Helpdesk Operator/Analyst for a wide area network. I have over 20 years experience in Hospitals and computers. I have a varied and broad interest in many things, primarily: psychology (mostly forensic), numerology, gemology, astrology, photography (wildlife and nature) oil painting, herbology, poetry (writing) - I never drive a car and either walk or mountain bike everywhere....I'll stop there for now. I live an ordinary life.. in an non-ordinary way. I find I am often lonely, in as much.. there are not a lot of wide range thinkers like me around. Music has always been a major source of healing in my life. The first time I heard Enigma I felt that I could have written the words...that's how close they came to describing my belief's and attitudes. I cry when I think that I am not all alone in my thinking.. and that there are people like Michael and Sandy Cretu that make this often hard cruel world a much better place for all of us. I am looking forward to a whole wealth of new friends with new ideas and stories to share. Peace, Love and harmony to ALL. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Philip Jon Shipley" Subject: Spotted To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Delpha) Hey, Anyone seen east of Eden, with Dan Ackroyd ? Large useage of sadeness part 1 in an S&M suggestive scene. I personally don't like that whoever made this movie decided to use Enigma for a scene such as the above. Opinions?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:00:57 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Spotted To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Philip Jon Shipley wrote: > Hey, Anyone seen east of Eden, with Dan Ackroyd ? Large useage of sadeness > part 1 in an S&M suggestive scene. I personally don't like that whoever made > this movie decided to use Enigma for a scene such as the above. Opinions?? > > > > > Yes, I just saw "Exit to Eden" (you were close) Yes, this movie sucked (no pun intended). And, the Enigma mix was really quiet and crappy. It didn't fit the movie at all. It sounded like they edited the music into the movie with a very cheap radio. Don't bother to see this movie. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:30:27 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Spotted To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au You must bear in mind that Sadeness is about the Marquis de Sade, the "father" of sadomasochism (while this happened long before De Sade, he was the one whose name was taken for it). In this light, there are few songs more appropriate for the scene in which Lisa (Dana Delany) is trained in the art of domination. Perhaps Madonna's Erotica, but nothing else for suitable. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Philip Jon Shipley" Subject: Spotted To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > You must bear in mind that Sadeness is about the Marquis de Sade, the > "father" of sadomasochism (while this happened long before De Sade, he was > the one whose name was taken for it). In this light, there are few songs > more appropriate for the scene in which Lisa (Dana Delany) is trained in the > art of domination. Perhaps Madonna's Erotica, but nothing else for suitable. > > Peace. > > > Had kept that in mind, but the movie itself was so bad and tongue in cheek that Enigma should have no part in it. The use of sadeness in a more serious context would have made me react much differently.. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:37:13 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Spotted To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'm wondering if all you people who are shooting down "Exit To Eden" have read the book? Granted, it's different, but it will give you a totally different view of the movie. I loved the movie! I thought it was campy and hilarious! And I might add I was quite pleasantly surprised to find Enigma used TWICE in the movie (tho the "Return To Innocence" edit is quite poor!)! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 14:19:41 EDT From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Stone Edge To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au There was recently some discussion about a group called Stone Edge on this mailing list. I just bought their self-named CD and thought I'd pass a couple of comments along. Firstly, they are not particularly like Enigma; I'm surprised that the suggestion was ever made. But, secondly, I suspect a number of Enigma fans will like them. Their style is a melange of other per- former's styles: Vangelis, Deep Forest, some of the more pop-ish sounds of Clannad, Loreena McKennitt, a little bit of Moodswings, some ambient sounds, with a hint Willie and Lobo and B-Tribe. How's that for a mixture! The band is French, with most songs in French. Some of the songs are suppose to be traditional--maybe the lyrics and melody, but definitely not the rendition. (I'm still wondering whether the use of Uillean pipes, which is definitely noticable in a number of the songs, were done via a synthesizer or the traditional instrument. At times both ideas sound plausible.) Well, this was not intended as a review. Rather, just an FYI. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:37:21 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: Strange Days To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Has anyone heard either of the songs by Deep Forest on Strange Days? How do they sound? Anyhting like BOHEME? Does Coral Lounge use samples like other Deep Forest songs? If anyone has any info, please let me know? Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:26:56 -0600 From: jpena@raven.benedictine.edu (JoAnna =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pe=F1a?= ) Subject: Strange Days To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Nope, never heard of it. Sorry! #1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1= #1 Colorado Buffs #1 JoAnna Pe=F1a jpena@benedictine.edu B.C. Box 343 1020 N. 2nd St. Atchison, Kansas 66002 1-913-367-5340 Ext: 5051 Colorado Buffs #1 #1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1 #1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:21:23 +1000 From: Enigmatic Subject: Strange Days track-listing To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au For those interested, here's the Strange Days soundtrack listing: 1. Skunk Anasie - Selling Jesus 2. Lords of Acid - The Real Thing 3. Tricky - Overcome 4. Deep Forest - Coral Lounge 5. Strange Fruit - No White Clouds 6. Juliette Lewis - Hardly Wait(PJ Harvey) 7. ME PHI ME/Jeriko One(Glenn Plummer) - hereWEcome 8. Skunk Anansie - Feed 9. Prong featuring Ray Manzarek - Strange Days 10. Satchel - Walk in Freedom 11. Hate Gibson - Dance Me To the End of Love 12. Lori Carson & Graeme Revell - Fall In The Light 13. Peter Gabriel and Deep Forest - While the Earth Sleeps (Ending Credits) It's good to see some original Deep Forest tracks and the thought of a DF/Peter Gabriel duo is quite exciting.... Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:58:41 -0700 From: imicro@oberon.ark.com (Cornelia von Schellwitz) Subject: Strange Days Web page To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I browsed through that web and could not find any music clips nor a free screen saver. Where are they? I looked at all the pages (Main, Fetish or something like that, 2K and Lenni). CvS imicro@oberon.ark.com imicro@oberon.ark.com Island Microsystems Dennis Barg Phone (604)286-0624 Fax (604)286-0102 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:37:57 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: Strange Days Web page To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I browsed through that web and could not find any music clips nor a free >screen saver. Where are they? I looked at all the pages (Main, Fetish or >something like that, 2K and Lenni). > >CvS >imicro@oberon.ark.com >imicro@oberon.ark.com >Island Microsystems >Dennis Barg >Phone (604)286-0624 >Fax (604)286-0102 Well, I got mine there, so it's there. //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- Jeffry McGee mcgee@redshift.com ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:49:56 +0100 From: ymthan@dial.eunet.ch (YE MIN THAN) Subject: The new ENIGMA album!!!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, I'm new here so I'm not very familiar with mailing-list. However, I am an avid fan of ENIGMA since MCMXC A.D. I think nobody could match Michael Cretu's work. He truely invented a new kind of music which later I hope will become classic. Enigma is a world better than Deep Forest, Indian Sacred Spirits, Dao Dezi, Mo-Di....etc. But I like these kinds of spiritual and ethnical music. It's soothing, relaxing, peaceful and magical. I personally prefer MCMXC A.D. than the Cross Of Changes because the first one is more mysterious and original. Don't take me wrong here, I love "The Cross of Changes", especially Age of loneliness, Eyes of Truth and Return to Innnocence. I simply feel that the first one is better. So, I heard that the new Enigma album will be out by autumn next year. Is this true????? Well then, I have some suggestions for Michael Cretu, hopefully Joarg will send my suggestions to Michael!!! My idea for the new Enigma album is to use the theme "Angels". MCMXC A.D. used Gregorian Chants, the Cross of Changes used ethnical chants. And the third one, in my best imaginations, should uses the voices of angels and spirits, presumely strange female voices. Of course, you need to imagine what it will sounds like but I am positive that it can be a theme. Using voices of angels and spirits is a new idea and will certainly sounds great. Of course, you will say nobody knows how is the voice of angels. But as a musician, I will say you can (especially Michael)!!!!!! The beautiful chants and voices of female angels, noises of string instruments, harp, vibraphone..etc. I think Michael Cretu should not make songs like "Return to Innocence", or "Silent Warriors"..etc because they sound like conventional songs in which a singer sings all the lyrics through. It sounds simple and traditional. Michael should continue the theme of "Mea Culpa" where Sandra sings in French but in a unconventional way. Enigma must be something new, unconventional, and magical at the same time. Don't take me wrong here again. I am not critizing Michael's works but how it could be develop for the new album. Michael Cretu is one of the best composers in the world for me!!!! Well that's my imagination for the new album!!! What do you think, guys??? See you! YMT ymthan@dial.eunet.ch ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:47:53 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: The new ENIGMA album!!!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I just think the new enigma album should contain some hot bass lines...written by me. What do you think Rachelle? Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:32:54 -0500 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: The new ENIGMA album!!!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'd beg to differ about songs like return to innocence ,etc. I think having the mix of all those elements adds alot to each album. It would not be Enigma without a certain balance. Part of what makes the music so special is it diversity and variety of styles. What does anyone else think? Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:21:20 +0100 From: ymthan@dial.eunet.ch (YE MIN THAN) Subject: The new ENIGMA album!!!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jeremy, I am the one who write "the new Enigma album". I like the songs Return to Innocence but there is the guy "Angel" who sings all along the song which is to me quite conventional and traditional. Enigma's songs should be unique and new. Return to Innocence could not provide that like "Sadness", "Mea Culpa" or even "Carly's song". What I am suggesting here is that in the new album I wish to see singers singing melodies and lyrics in a different way than a normal song. In Return to Innocence, Angel sings all the lyrics straight away like any other songs. That's what I mean........... Ye Min Than ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 17:19:08 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: The new ENIGMA album!!!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Jeremy Fox wrote: > I'd beg to differ about songs like return to innocence ,etc. I think having > the mix of all those elements adds alot to each album. It would not be > Enigma without a certain balance. Part of what makes the music so special > is it diversity and variety of styles. What does anyone else think? > Jeremy I agree. I think that the "pop" tunes help to create a larger following of enigam fans since the pop tunes are sometimes played on the radio. I've never heard any of enigma's instrumental music on the radio. It all comes down to money. An artist and record company cannot make money if nobody knows that the artist exhists. The pop tunes which are played on the radio bring an artist exposure and revenue. Just my $.02 Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:30:08 +0000 From: "Christopher Silveira" Subject: Theory on Return to Innocence To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I know, I know, another off the wall theory from the one who has been quite since he signed on! But let's just say that I am in a very introspective mood right now. My theory on Return to Innocence is that of triumph and inner-knowledge. The music alone hints at a great victory, I can't listen to it w/o getting goosebumps all over my arms! (especially the mixes on the 12" version) Listening to just the music I picture a beatiful coastal plateau hundreds of feet above the ocean. The water goes on out of sight past the horizon, with huge waves pounding up against the coastal wall, sending water and foam everywhere. It is sunset, and the sun is just sitting on the horizon, casting an ethereal orange light on everything it touches. There is man on the very edge of the plateau, looking out over the water to the sky, painted a deep crimson by the setting sun. His arms are raised high up in the air and he is chanting along to the sound of the crashing waves below, the male in the song is him. Inside himself he has had a revelation. He is celebrating his release from the chains of the reality we live in. He has escaped to a higher place where he can be free and where his mind is no longer bound by ropes that so often tie us down, prejudice, greed, malice, depression. He has achieved pure innocence, where he knows nothing and because of that he can't be bound to anything. I can almost see him pull free of the ropes one by one as he sings. It is like he has taken a step back to childhood, when we were so naive. Everything back then was so magical. We didn't know about the evil in the world that would eventually taunt us on a daily basis. That's what I feel the song is about, breaking free of the bonds and returning back to the innocence of a child. If we accomplished that so many evils in the world would disappear. We would not have anything to fear any more. The man has done it, he remains alone in my vision only because he is the first to do it. He stands on that plateau for eternity beckoning others to join him. "Just look into your hearts my friends. That will be the return to yourself, the Return to Innocence..." Always keep the fire alive... ---------------------------------- Christopher Silveira aka eric longfellow (the lost dj) csil@hooked.net chris_silveira@pagenet.com http://www.hooked.net:80/users/csil/ -=(UDIC)=- "Junior Dragon" "This our house, and our house miusic!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:24:21 -0400 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Theory on Return to Innocence To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au WOW! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 09:54:37 -0700 From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: The Wonderful EML!!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello Enigmites, I just have to tell everyone that I am so very thrilled to be back on the EML lis!!!:) I had some problems with my other internet account, so for a few days I missed out on everyone's messages. I really did miss EML!!!!!!! I think sometimes we take things for granted. This mailing list has given me great information on Enigma & Enigma related music. I am so very thankful to all of you that have shared your perspectives on Music, life, etc. Also, I have learned of other great music that I can buy. I'm glad to see that the quarrels aren't still going on!!!!!:) Thanks Everybody!!!!! Your so Great!!!!!!!!! Gavin Stock, I want to especially Thank You!!!!!!!!!! Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:04:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Agresta Jr Subject: This is me... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, since I'm going to be on this Mailing List, I will share and tell you a little bit about me NAME: Frank Anthony Agresta Jr. AGE: 19 COLLECTION: ALBUMS: M.C.M.X.C A.d, The Cross of Changes, "Sliver Soundtrack", M.T.V Party To Go Vol. 2. (These last two have Enigma songs on them). :-) SINGLES: Return To Innocence, Age of Loneliness(3 different versions), The Eyes of Truth, Out From The Deep. I first heard of Enigma back in 1990, when I was listening to the radio and watching M.T.V. Their first song Sadeness Part 1 was what got me into them. That song is so mellow and relaxing, then again, all of their music is relaxing! Ever since then I fell in love with them. I Would call myself a die-hard fan because of all the time and effort I put in to find all of their import C.D's. It's almost a mission for me to find these import. It helps living close to New York City. Also they are the only group in which I play constantly, Deep Forest, Enchanted and Nine Inch Nails are tied for second. The other artist that I like are Deep Forest, Enchanted and Nine Inch Nails. Right now I'm in College, currently unemployed, unless you consider hunting down all of Enigma's import C.D's a job. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:14:42 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: to Alexander's remark To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Gee, are we uptight today? (wi'd he join in the first place?) Even though some of us might be criticizing others, do you see (or rather read me) getting mad? Even though Jez called me Neil Hutton (it's Neil Cutler) but to Jez's comment, it's like figure skating, not IS figure skating, id love to see what he pictured it being! |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 22:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: kclouser@brutus.bright.net Subject: to Alexander's remark To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Gee , I love to skate , figure skating is the only thing that really excites me , I like to keep warm so I only figure skate on quads (four wheels) I couldn't Imagine doing it jumping off of a horse.... Litening to enigma & skatin is a definite awesome experiance... well gg (G) Ben.. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 12:25:12 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: to Karen but thought I'd put it through the list To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au that would mean that it would be 8:00 pm here (PST) or 11:00 pm (EST), 8:00 is fine with me, I will try to be there at 8. but to other people I will still try to be there at 5 or 8 EST so it will still be open. |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "Marie had a little RAM- about a Meg or so" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 01:32:12 -0400 From: lucas@InterLink.NET (Marty Lucas) Subject: To Lawrence, about Deep Forest To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Lawrence - Hello ! I saw the movie twice this weekend and like I said earlier, I was blown away. The two DEEP FOREST songs that play in the movie are the following : CORAL LOUNGE and the other one is signed DEEP FOREST & PETER GABRIEL and is named WHILE THE EARTH SLEEPS. I can't tell you where the first one plays as I did not know they had two songs in the movie, but the song you hear right when the ending credits start is "When the earth sleeps" and I do believe it was also the music you could hear in some of the movie previews in theatres. ALL & EVERYONE - > I finally found out (today) that the movie soundtrack has been out for some time now. (Yeay!) So please disregard my question posted earlier. Thanks to those who did (or would've) reply to me. Marty Lucas lucas@interlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:26:55 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Un-needed Anger and Frustation (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Forwarded message: > Yikes!!! Thought I'd find some mellow, positive people when I entered into > this mailing > list, and way too much of it is from some yahoo who doesn't have any contacts > (maybe > no friends..) who can help get the person off the list; how sad [hope he > doesn't upset > too many people, becuase some of them might be vindictive enough to add him > to, oh, > another 30 or 40 mailing lists, like the Gay Nazis for Christ, Pee Wee Herman > Fan club, > or other obscure lists). > Cretu & company did a great job hiding the details of who did the work > on the tracks > they created; what a surprise to find out that not only have umpteen million > copies of > Enigma music been sold, but there's even a mailing list for aficionados of > Enigma. > Thanks everyone for listing all the Enigma-like music and artists. Some > of those > mentioned are already in my growing collection, and now I can sample some > others > without a bank-breaking excursion through every new age, alternative rock, > and chant > work out there; thanks for saving some of us time, and a lot of wasted money. > Has anyone heard when, in 96 or 97, the third work from Enigma might be > done? > Or any rumors on possible sights for a live performance that Cretu might have > under > consideration? Sure do look forward to hearing from you all (well, almost > all). > Many Thxxxx. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:51:00 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Un-needed Anger and Frustration To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I swear upon the Goddess that this is my LAST comment on this. Why are we STILL paying attention to Sathasivam? We can't we just ignore him like the ignorance that he is? By the way, does anybody know ANYTHING about ANY upcoming releases by Enigma? I need a FIX! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:20:49 +1000 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Vangelis "Voices" Promotional Info. To: direct@celtech.com G'day all. Since it hasn't been reported yet, here is the promotional information about Vangelis' next release "Voices". The information is dated September 26, 1995 and all text and dates come from England: "Internationally reknowned composed Vangelis, who won an Oscar for his 'Chariots of Fire' soundtrack and composed the influential music for 'Blade Runner', has his new East West single 'Voices' released on October 16th. 'Voices' is the title track of Vangelis' long awaited new studio album which will be released on October 30th. Composed, arranged, produced and performed by Vangelis, and featuring voices from the Greek National Opera Company of Athens, 'Voices' is coupled with 'Voices II' (Echoes) on cassette with the CD also including 'Voices III'. >From 'Chariots of Fire' to 'Missing' and 'Blade Runner', Vangelis has written the music for many critically acclaimed films. In the past few years he has been involved in a substantial number of musical ventures including composing the music for several Jacques Cousteau documentaries and the soundtracks for Roman Polanski's 'Bitter Moon', and Ridlet Scott's epic '1492'. Other projects include the massive outdoor Eureka Project staged in Rotterdam which was directed by Vangelis and attracted over 200,000 people and the following year he received one of France's highest artistic honours when he was invested into the Chevalier Order Of Arts And Letters." My thanks go to east west records in Australia for this information. The album is due for release in Australia in mid-November. Regards, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 18:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bloo!!! 8-} Subject: Various Enigma tidbits To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au First off, Enigma as boinking music. Heck yah! 8-} None better in my book, and if you have the limited edition version of the first album, then you will probably agree that applies especially to tracks 13(Mea Culpa- Fading Shades), 14(Principles of Lust-Everlasting Lust), and 15 The Rivers of Belief-Returning Silence. These last three songs seem to have been mixed with lovemaking in mind. 8-} When last I wrote last year, I had only the first album, and had just bought the second album. I now have the special edition of the first album (Gavin!! Did you EVER get that disc returned to you in the mail?), sadeness cd single(US) and all the singles from Cross of Changes. Plus... Today I just received the Japanese full version laserdisc "MCMXC a.d., The complete Video Album" today. That is specifically why I am writing. I had it on back order from Ken Cranes in Los Angeles(1-800-624-3078) for the last ... 6 months or so, but the seem to have finally got it in. I do not know if they have more copies but you can try... The cost is 49$+1.50 second day shipping(It is a Japanese disc so a bit more spendy than most, and that is US$). I can't wait to get home and play it!! 8-} On other things, I have been catching a preview lately on TV for the US release of the movie "The Scarlet Letter" with Demi Moore. I usually seem to be on the phone when this preview comes on, but it catches my attention because it is either Enigma or Deep Forest(it really slips my mind what song it is right now, I just haven't paid attention) Does anyone know which song it is? Reccommendation: If you like Enigma's first album, get Delerium's Semantic Spaces. I think it sounds more like Enigma THAN Enigma, if that sounds weird enough. I iknow many people have mentioned this disc before, but I have to say it again, this disc is GREAT! I play it more than Enigma now(I apologize. 8-}) One other strange item of note semi-related to enigma(deep forest really) My girl friend's name is Marta (she has her own song. 8-}) Thanks for the time... -Brian bloo@eskimo.com "Those aren't SEX muffins! -Coach http://www.eskimo.com/~bloo/ Those aren't LOVE muffins! the Blooberry Jedi 8-} Those are just BLOOberry muffins!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 12:24:32 EDT From: dfitzpat@skidmore.edu (Daniel Fitzpatrick) Subject: Welcome to enigma To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au good afternoon. name: dan fitzpatrick age: 19 collection: enigma I and II, deep forest, dead can dance first heard: a friend had bought the enigma I cd and we listened to it while procrastinating. i fell asleep, then i went out and bought it the next day. that was when enigma I had first come out and since ive tried to find as much music similar to enigma as possible. other artists: anything really. music is my drug. occupation: student at skidmore college in saratoga springs ny usa there thats my enigma bio. its (enigma I) probably the cd i listen to most often and for the longest periods at a time. if it goes in it stays for at least a few weeks, always. just looking for all sorts of info re: enigma and the music styles that are similar of other groups. dan "...abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:59:53 -0500 From: laurelp@sihope.com (Laurel) Subject: Welcome to enigma-digest To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Name: Laurel Palmer Age: 22 What is in your Enigma collection: Where you first heard Enigma, and how much of a fan you are: I first heard Enigma on a local modern rock station...I think it was in 1990. I fell in love right off the bat. :) Other artists you like: +Live+, The Beatles, REM, Chris Rea, Trip Shakespeare, NIN, KMFDM, Copeland...I think that just about covers the gammat of stuff I love to listen to.... What course or job you're doing (if any): I work at a data entry company. Any other interesting information you wish to share: I am just happy to learn that there is an Enigma list out there and am happy to have found it. I am sure it will be to my liking. Looking forward to the first one I recieve. "Dream on sweet angel..." -Chris Rea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:47:54 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: What does this mean To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In the song Man is the dream of the dolphin, in the Album Cross of Changes, there's the part that says, in every colour there's the light, in every stone sleeps a crystal. I've been trying to figure out what this means, since I'm a guy that loves a mystery to solve. Does anyone know? (I've read the FAQ about what the shamen but it does not say anything about the colour and stone) |\ | |\/\/\/| | \ | | | | \|eil Cutler | | | (o)(o) email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| | ,____| enigma fan | / "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 00:49:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joshua \"Sparky\" Anderson" Subject: What does this mean To: Neil Cutler On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Neil Cutler wrote: > In the song Man is the dream of the dolphin, in the Album Cross of Changes, > there's the part that says, in every colour there's the light, in every > stone sleeps a crystal. I've been trying to figure out what this means, > since I'm a guy that loves a mystery to solve. Does anyone know? (I've read > the FAQ about what the shamen but it does not say anything about the colour > and stone) > > |\ | |\/\/\/| > | \ | | | > | \|eil Cutler | | > | (o)(o) > email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| > | ,____| > enigma fan | / > > "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." > > > I think he is trying to say that there is something precious in all of us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 07:51:12 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: What does this mean To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > In the song Man is the dream of the dolphin, in the Album Cross of Changes, > there's the part that says, in every colour there's the light, in every > stone sleeps a crystal. I've been trying to figure out what this means, > since I'm a guy that loves a mystery to solve. Does anyone know? (I've read > the FAQ about what the shamen but it does not say anything about the colour > and stone) > > |\ | |\/\/\/| > | \ | | | > | \|eil Cutler | | > | (o)(o) > email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| > | ,____| > enigma fan | / > > "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." > > > Hey Neil, I think this is talking about the potential inside all of us. The color is us now, and the light is what we can become. Our minds are the stone, and inside sleeps something better and we must find out what! This is my interpretation of Dream Of the Dolphin.See Ya!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 95 22:35:43 PDT From: kclouser@brutus.bright.net Subject: What does this mean To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'm not sure but I think the crystall in the stone & the colour in light are somthing in common , because when white light is directed through a crystal , a wide variety of colours comes shinning out of the other side. (?) PS Correct me if I'm wrong somone... Ben. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:17:05 +0100 From: Per Terje Aune Subject: What does this mean To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au At 18:47 02.10.95 -0700, you wrote: >In the song Man is the dream of the dolphin, in the Album Cross of Changes, >there's the part that says, in every colour there's the light, in every >stone sleeps a crystal. I've been trying to figure out what this means, >since I'm a guy that loves a mystery to solve. Does anyone know? (I've read >the FAQ about what the shamen but it does not say anything about the colour >and stone) Hmmmm... I am a very straightforward person that does not want to think more than necessary. I just settle with the easiest explanations. In this case, I just use my (too) small knowledge in physics (I have a test tomorrow at school). The light: All light gathered is white (pretty monotonous), but when sent at different wavelengths it turns into different colors, one for each wavelength, and we get a spectrum (pretty beautiful). This shows that more is hidden in light than what we see, and this goes for all things in nature. The stone: If you take a beautiful stone (a crystal for instance) you know that this once was hidden inside a mountain, and then it was cut out, washed and maybe grinded to become beautiful. Also if you take a normal stone and cut it in half, you will always find that it is nice inside, with different colors. These were my first thoughts when trying to understand these lyrics, and I've also settled with them thinking them to be the best. But who knows..... Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:16:23 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I am doing a little personal research on what people most like about the music of enigma. What I mean is, when you listen to Enigma, what part of the music do you like the most? Drums, bass lines, melodies, chord progressions, vocals, the acctual sounds/patches used to create the music? My favorite aspect of the music is the drum patterns. Michael knows how to program drums very well even though most of the patterns are taken from other artists such as Peter Gabriel who took the patterns from world music and adapted the patterns to his music. For an example, listen to Peter Gabriel's song, "Kiss The Frog" off of the "US" CD. I'm sure the beat will sound very familiar to the second cut off of "The Cross of Change." I'm reffering to the middle-eastern sounding song. I think Michael bass lines are a little weak. His music would be even more sensous if he would be more creative with the bass lines. If you want sexy bass lines, listen to SADE. When I began adding melodic bass lines to my music, the change was just amazing. My music went from synth based Enya-type music to being very erotic. How do I know this? When I recorded my first song using the new style, my best friend and his girlfriend made love to it with the my song repeating over and over. Well enough of my opinion. I want to hear your opinions. Why? I want to know what gets people "hot and bothered" so I can add it to my compositions. Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:05:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello again, I DEFINITLY believe in the power of the Bass line, however, I must disagree on the opiinion of Curly's choice for bass. Sadeness has a very good, solid bass line, half the reason I got involved in the music for the first place... Peter, If you believe that this "SADE" has a better bass line then "sadeness", where do I find this music?????????? LJR I On Wed, 25 Oct 1995 geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu wrote: > > I think Michael bass lines are a little weak. His music would be even > more sensous if he would be more creative with the bass lines. If you > want sexy bass lines, listen to SADE. When I began adding melodic bass > lines to my music, the change was just amazing. My music went from synth > based Enya-type music to being very erotic. How do I know this? When I > recorded my first song using the new style, my best friend and his > girlfriend made love to it with the my song repeating over and over. > > Well enough of my opinion. I want to hear your opinions. Why? I want > to know what gets people "hot and bothered" so I can add it to my > compositions. > > Peter C. Geisheker > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 22:45:12 PDT From: ken clouser Subject: What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I love the bass lines , like the bass drums & the low frequincy synthensyzer notes!!! ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:17:33 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Lamar James was wondering where he could find the music of "SADE"? At any music/CD store. Sade is a popular R&B/Adult contemporary band and has I think 5 or 6 CDs out. My favorite CD's are "Stronger than Pride" and "Love Deluxe." SADE also had a concert that was aired on PBS during their pledge drives about a year ago. The video is great. I watch it at least once a week. If you have the opportuntiy to get this video, get it! I had mentioned that I thought the bass lines of enigma were rather weak. He thinks the bass lines are great. Trust me, enigma's bass lines are nothing compared to SADE's. I believe that SADE has the best bass lines that I have ever heard. I also believe that her music is as sensuous as Enigma's if not ever more sensuous than Enigma's. When I compose music, it is the bass lines of SADE that I try to replicate. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:55:41 -0400 From: Jerry Smith Subject: What it means.... To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Folks, Maybe I am a throw back to the 60s, but the music flows thru my mind and it can mean different things at different time. No I don't do drugs or anything like that. It more as the mood strikes me or who I am with. Just let it flow. Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Television. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 13:06:12 +0100 (CET) From: Edwin Ollefers Subject: Where to get .... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au It seems to me that a lot of people get their CD's at sites like the cdconnection. I've been there myself but the prizes are ridiculous, if you live outside the US, that is. The charges for sending a CD to Europe are about the same as the costs of the CD itself. Therefore, I thougth I'd ask you guys if anybody knows a similar site which is operated from Europe, thus reducing shipping costs ? Greetz, Edwin ______________________________________________ | E.M. Ollefers | Industrial Design Engineering | Delft University of Technology, Netherlands ---------------------------------------------- Beware of programmers that cary screwdrivers ! ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:30:12 -0400 From: Jerry Smith Subject: Where to get .... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Try cdeurope.com At 01:06 PM 04-10-95 +0100, you wrote: >It seems to me that a lot of people get their CD's at sites like the >cdconnection. I've been there myself but the prizes are ridiculous, >if you live outside the US, that is. > >The charges for sending a CD to Europe are about the same as the >costs of the CD itself. > >Therefore, I thougth I'd ask you guys if anybody knows a similar site >which is operated from Europe, thus reducing shipping costs ? > >Greetz, Edwin >______________________________________________ > >| E.M. Ollefers >| Industrial Design Engineering >| Delft University of Technology, Netherlands > >---------------------------------------------- >Beware of programmers that cary screwdrivers ! >______________________________________________ > > Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Television. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 16:46:50 MDT From: schaffet@colorado.edu (Eric T. Schaffner) Subject: Why French To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 28 Oct 1995 05:00:19 +1000 you wrote: >I have a question that I don't think anyone has addressed on this list, >or maybe it has but it has slipped my mind. Anyway I was just wondering >if anyone out there knows why MCMX ad was in French? What Cretu was >Rommanian and Sandra is Spanish? Where did French work it's way into >the equation? Well at least Sadeness and Mea Culpa was. I thought that it >was really cool that I couldn't understand it for about four years, it had allot of mystery to it >that Cross of changes lacked. And when I finally did find out what it >all meant I found that I liked the album even more if that was possible. >Am I alone in this? Cretu probably used French lyrics for a few reasons: a) Sadeness is about the Marquis de Sade, a french writer whose works have made his name the root to the word Sadistic b) The rhythm of the lyrics in French works fantasitcally well c) Using French just gives the songs a further element of seductiveness. IMHO, "Je te desire" sounds much more intense and sensual than "I want you." Of course, this is my opinion and as a francophone, I'm a little biased :-) ------Eric T. Schaffner------MCD Biology, University of Colorado, Boulder------ Mail: schaffet@Colorado.EDU WWW: http://ucsub.Colorado.EDU/~schaffet/Home.html "...but if he can't get off, he's gonna get it on! *bang* *bang* *bang*" -Matt Love ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:56:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Dinh Le Subject: Why French? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have a question that I don't think anyone has addressed on this list, or maybe it has but it has slipped my mind. Anyway I was just wondering if anyone out there knows why MCMX ad was in French? What Cretu was Rommanian and Sandra is Spanish? Where did French work it's way into the equation? Well at least Sadeness and Mea Culpa was. I thought that it was really cool that I couldn't understand it for about four years, it had allot of mystery to it that Cross of changes lacked. And when I finally did find out what it all meant I found that I liked the album even more if that was possible. Am I alone in this? Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:23:37 +22304808 (WET) From: e4068@iut-orsay.fr (ONETO Vincent TP231) Subject: Why French? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > I have a question that I don't think anyone has addressed on this list, > or maybe it has but it has slipped my mind. Anyway I was just wondering > if anyone out there knows why MCMX ad was in French? What Cretu was > Rommanian and Sandra is Spanish? Where did French work it's way into > the equation? Well at least Sadeness and Mea Culpa was. I thought that it > was really cool that I couldn't understand it for about four years, it had allot of mystery to it > that Cross of changes lacked. And when I finally did find out what it > all meant I found that I liked the album even more if that was possible. > Am I alone in this? > > Dinh LE > Hum, dude, I think the main reason is that Sade was a frenchy. Ass the first Enigma album is base on him, it's normal that lyrics are un frech, isn't it ? Personnaly, as I'm a french dude, it's all perfect for me :) C ya ! Vincent Oneto. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 22:38:57 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Why French? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Perhaps French worked its way into Enigma through Sadeness. After all, De Sade was French, so it would be appropriate. That still doesn't fully explain Mea Culpa's French, tho. Hmmm.... Oh, well. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 06:39:32 -0600 From: jl@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (J. Li) Subject: Windows To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Deep Forest fans should try to pick up a copy of this cd by Michel Sanchez, one of the composer of Deep Forest, and also produced by Dan Lacksman. This cd fills the gap between Deep Forest I and II. If you have ever wonder how DF evolve from pygmies to songs from the translvania (sp?), then you should listen to Windows. Tracks include a lot of synthesizer works, and even a piano track. Samples from pygimes are there, and also some evidence of European traditional music. After listening to Windows and Dao Dezi, I think Michel Sanchez is more involved in the melodies of Deep Forest, while Eric Mouquet is more with the lyrics (or putting them together from samples). This Cd is not printed in the US. Mine is an Austrian import copy that costed over $20. I think it is worth the money. J. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: WTB Enigma record To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello I want to buy the "Limited edition" of Enigma I ( The one with the green marble jacket ). I also wtb any single CD of Enigma. ( at a reasonable price of course ) If somebody know where I can find one of these CD, please e-mail to me. Thank you _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:18:26 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: WTB Enigma record To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hello > >I want to buy the "Limited edition" of Enigma I ( The one with the green >marble jacket ). > >I also wtb any single CD of Enigma. ( at a reasonable price of course ) > >If somebody know where I can find one of these CD, please e-mail to me. > >Thank you > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: > | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca >________________________________|____________________________________ > >This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. Believe it or not, I bought my copy of MCMXC: The Limited Edition in July Santa Cruz, CA at BLOCKBUSTER MUSIC. Unreal! They also had a shitload of singles, all of which I already own, but I know that the Blockbuster Music chain is dedicated to giving it's customers imports as well as domestics. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 12:32:44 GMT From: ritahd@ix.netcom.com (Rita H Delaune) Subject: WTB Enigma record To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:20:37 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > >Hello > >I want to buy the "Limited edition" of Enigma I ( The one with the green >marble jacket ). > >I also wtb any single CD of Enigma. ( at a reasonable price of course ) > >If somebody know where I can find one of these CD, please e-mail to me. > >Thank you > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: > | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca >________________________________|____________________________________ > >This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. > > > Here in New Orleans I found a lot of singles , etc. at Circuit City. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 20:00:35 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Christopher Robinson (nc) wrote: > > Enigma's music is exceptional, but my question concerns their > lyrics. In "Return to Innocence," Enigma says, "Don't be afraid to be > weak/ Don't be too proud to be strong." The structure of this couplet > puts the two lines in parallel. This means that the second line is > "Don't be proud that you are strong." Since the rest of the song deals > with emotional issues, that is it does not refer to physical strength, > then I am left thinking that Enigma is implying that one should not be > proud if they are emotionally strong, i.e., able to deal with reality. > Are they implying that we are subject to the fates and that we need to > take what is given, and not to take it so seriously, after all during the > next turning, things will change. > > Christopher Robinson > > I think that the lyrics simply mean that you shouldn't try to hold in your emotions for the sake of appearing strong--something that men are famous for (myself included). The problem with holding in your emotions is that your emotions will eat away at you until you finally release them and the relese is usually so strong that it may make a person do bad things to themself or others. Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:24:07 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Corey is correct. Peter Gabriel's "Passion" CD is some of the best music I have ever heard, especially if you love percussion. I found a whole new respect for Peter Gabriel when I heard this CD. Check it out, you'll be happy you did. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:35:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Corey - How does on get his hands on the "Last Temptation of Christ" soundtrack - I still haven't even seen the movie!! Peter Gabriel sounds like Enigma - I gotta here it... LJR I On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Corey Daniel Leamon wrote: > I thought I would respond quickly to your message about looking for other > groups like Enigma. Some of my favorites are Enya (Enya, Watermark, > Shepherd Moons, all excellent), Kitaro (Dream, Heaven and Earth > Soundtrack), Tangerine Dream (The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, this > is their best hits album, pretty good, but less chanty and more guitar), > Clannad (Banba, Anam, others, this is Enya's sister), and I'm sure people > know about the Cranberries (whether or not they agree that they are > Enigma-like), but on their first album, they have some great songs that > remind me of Enigma (I Still Do, Dreams) and some other awesome songs > (Linger, I Will Always...), besides, her voice is very enchanting like > Enigma is. And finally, Peter Gabriels Passion (The soundtrack to The > Last Temptation of Christ), is excellent, it reminds me of The Cross of > Changes. Oh well, I guess that's all, hope that helps and happy hunting! > > Corey/Draven > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:36:59 -0400 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, It would seem there is alot of music out there like Enigma...I think we should get a list together and vote to rank it all, so we all can figure out which CD's seem coolest if we do not have them. I am a real fan of the type of music myself, and there are so many different songs discussed, it's easy to get lost in it all...what does anyone else think? Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:44:31 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To purchase Peter Gabriel's "Passion" CD, just go to your local CD/Tape store. They should have it and if they don't, just ask them to order it. Note: "Passion" is NOT enigma sounding music. It is not techno dance music. It literally is Passion. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:02:27 -0400 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I think a kind of list of music would be nice, but what about the few people whose favorties are excluded? Granted, there's got to be some kind of border. I don't think bands and artists like Prince (great as he is) or Nine Inch Nails (terrible as they are) deserve a place on the list. But we could expand beyond the trinity of Enigma, Deep Forest, and Vangelis. Just as an aside, has anyone ever noticed how the rhythms to Mea Culpa (Orthodox Mix) and Madonna's Justify My Love (Orbit 12") sound striking similar, down to the "ahhhs" whispered? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:34:29 +0100 From: tba Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ice point Jeramy, I'm new to the mailing list and so far only a few letters have been of any interest. Theones I have found interesting can loose you at times. A vote on certain tracks wold show what is popular and what isn't although I doubt there are many of them. Please could you tell me your favorite track from each album as I'm interested in what you think. I personally like: Rivers of Belief & Silent Warrior. If anyone else agrees or disagrees please reply. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:23:14 -0800 From: angelmac@amug.org (Rachelle L. Hamblin) Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Ya Everyone, I thought it would be nice to inform you of certain upcoming Concerts that will be going on in Phoenix, Arizona. Just in case if you are going to be coming to Phoenix for any particular reason. A good Concert can make a trip very fun. I'm sure you would all agree. Smile!!!! If you would like to chech out the 'Blockbuster Desert Sky Pavilion' Web Site on the Net, then go to: http://www.netwest.com/bdsp Examples of the upcoming Concerts being held at Blockbuster Desert Sky Pavilion are: Wednesday October 18-"Are the Outside Tour 1995" David Bowie,with Special Guest-Nine Inch Nails-and Prick. Saturday November 4-"R.E.M. Tour 95" Yeah!!!!! You can order tickets at any "The Wherehouse", "Robinsons-May Tower", and "Blockbuster Music" stores. Ticket Master Outlet phone numbers are: (602) 784-4444 (phoenix, AZ) or (602) 321-1000 (Tucson, AZ) Please, do let me know if you need assistance in ordering tickets. Forever Keep Smiling!!!!!!! Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA *angelmac* P.S. A Note to Gavin: You do not need to apologise for anything. You did nothing wrong. The predicaments that have been going on lately on EML were the result of a very unmannered person. We all Forgive you! Keep Smiling!!!! - _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 09:46:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Enigma Music-Like - Gregorian > > I don't know if the song 2. Once In A Lifetime has any relation with the > answer of Severino Ramos (Sara Brightman's "Once in a lifetime" from the > album "Dive") to Baywatch Episode question. Yes it does have a relation. The music is the same with different lyrics. Sarah's version was used during that episode. On a different note, I have never heard any of Gregorian's stuff used in any previews, movies... I sure would like to though. -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 03:11:15 -0800 From: john@betterbagel.com (John G. Ingram) Subject: your mail To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au At 9:46 AM 10/19/95, Alexander Dedios wrote: >> Enigma Music-Like - Gregorian >> >> I don't know if the song 2. Once In A Lifetime has any relation with the >> answer of Severino Ramos (Sara Brightman's "Once in a lifetime" from the >> album "Dive") to Baywatch Episode question. > >Yes it does have a relation. The music is the same with different lyrics. >Sarah's version was used during that episode. On a different note, I have >never heard any of Gregorian's stuff used in any previews, movies... > >I sure would like to though. > >-Alex There's that CD again...Sadisfaction. I'm still looking for a copy by the way. Has anyone seen one for sale? Peace and love to you! 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