Enigma Digest November 1995 Volume 2 : Issue 11 "Shorelife" by Mouth Music (3 msgs) "SLIVER" (2 msgs) ****Enigma's Mystical Lyrics**** **Angelic Enigma Album** **Inspirations of Enigma** (2 msgs) *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* (6 msgs) :)Happy Thanksgiving Enigmites!:) : Hello! (2 msgs) Affinity MOD, new Enya cd Ambient Wave (7 msgs) Angel X (2 msgs) B-Tribe's new album Baraka (3 msgs) bass lines Belle De Jour Belle Epoque and JM Jarre Boheme - Native Americans (2 msgs) Can someone tell me about..... Can someone tell me about.....\ Change in URL for Enigma and Sandra web pages Cirque du Soleil (FAQ) Cirque Du Soliel Commercial (2 msgs) Dao-Dezi! (3 msgs) Deep Forest - lyrics? (3 msgs) Deep Forest vs Boheme (4 msgs) Delerium DELERIUM!! Delerium/Media Play (5 msgs) Did enigma rip off vocals?? (4 msgs) ENIGMA!!! (2 msgs) Enigma & Enya (6 msgs) Enigma-digest V1 #188 Enigma-digest V1 #189 Enigma-digest V1 #190 Enigma-digest V1 #199 Enigma...... ENIGMA AND SANDRA Enigma in the news Enya (4 msgs) Enya's new single (4 msgs) Enya's new single--on the Enigma board? (5 msgs) Enya and Banba Enya and more... (2 msgs) Forwarded message (4 msgs) Free Enigma cd-rom (3 msgs) French or Spanish ? FS: FW: The Voice & The Snake (fwd) Getting Off the Subject Hello...I'm new Here's the truth I'm a newbie to the list... I/ve got a great story for you! Ice Wars (2 msgs) Intro Introduction Irc? (2 msgs) John Barry Just a silly question... (4 msgs) Limited Edition (4 msgs) Looking for DP copies on tape lyrics (13 msgs) MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition (2 msgs) MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing (5 msgs) Mea Culpa Mea Culpa & Deep Forest (2 msgs) Message Telepathique (2 msgs) Micheal Cretu and Mike Oldfield. monks (2 msgs) monks (fwd) Mood music? (2 msgs) Moodswings (2 msgs) Moodswings/Keoki Music besides Enigma. (3 msgs) Music from Lost Eden Music like Sacred Spirit (4 msgs) My Hubert kah and enigma pages NEW ALBUM OF ENIGMA NEW ALBUM OF ENIGMA (fwd) New ENYA Album (2 msgs) Nuthin' much... (2 msgs) Oupss !!! Rap mix? Re: WTB Enigma record (2 msgs) Re[1]: Mood music? (3 msgs) Re[1]: New ENYA Album Re[1]: Re[1]: Mood music? (2 msgs) Reminder REVIEW: Boheme by Deep Forest Sandra (7 msgs) SANDRA AND ENIGMA (4 msgs) Sara Brightman's new album (2 msgs) Sarah Brightman (2 msgs) Save the Rain Forest Music Video Scary? Seph! Silly:):) Sky Cries Mary (2 msgs) Sleepy talk sounds like enigma & more (8 msgs) Spiritual High (3 msgs) Spooky chanting. Stone Edge Suggestions for next cd? (3 msgs) Thanks guys !!! (2 msgs) THE COLD LIGHT OF REASON (3 msgs) The Good, Bad, and Ugly The Scarlet Letter (5 msgs) The Voice & The Snake (4 msgs) Toyota CD-ROM Trivia question (2 msgs) Unauthorized CD ? Various Things Visions of Sadeness LD Voice and the Snake What does this mean (2 msgs) What Enigma is to me What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? (fwd) (2 msgs) Writing in a STATE OF ENIGMA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:17:08 -0800 From: cschell@oberon.ark.com Subject: "Shorelife" by Mouth Music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >You guys should check out Mouth Music. They're a lot like Enya and >Enigma and they have a really great album with new style. Check out >Shorelife by Mouth Music, probably found in the international music >section of wherever you get your music. > > > I have "Mo-Di" by Mouth Music, how does "Shorelife" compare to that album? What do you mean by new style? If anyone else has heard "Shorelife", I would appreciate more info. TIA Cschell@oberon.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:18:39 -0500 (EST) From: anizami Subject: "Shorelife" by Mouth Music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 18 Nov 1995 cschell@oberon.ark.com wrote: > >You guys should check out Mouth Music. They're a lot like Enya and > >Enigma and they have a really great album with new style. Check out > >Shorelife by Mouth Music, probably found in the international music > >section of wherever you get your music. > > > > > > > I have "Mo-Di" by Mouth Music, how does "Shorelife" compare to that album? > What do you mean by new style? > If anyone else has heard "Shorelife", I would appreciate more info. H> TIA > > > > > Cschell@oberon.ark.com > > > Also, what I meant by new style is that the lyrics and the vocals are now mainly in english with some of the chorus being in gaelic. Its much better that way and relates closer to Enigma in that aspect. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:13:55 -0500 (EST) From: anizami Subject: "Shorelife" by Mouth Music To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 18 Nov 1995 cschell@oberon.ark.com wrote: > >You guys should check out Mouth Music. They're a lot like Enya and > >Enigma and they have a really great album with new style. Check out > >Shorelife by Mouth Music, probably found in the international music > >section of wherever you get your music. > > > > > > > I have "Mo-Di" by Mouth Music, how does "Shorelife" compare to that album? > What do you mean by new style? > If anyone else has heard "Shorelife", I would appreciate more info. > TIA > > > > > Cschell@oberon.ark.com > > > Personally, I didn't like Mo-Di. Shorelife is MUCH different from their older albums. Their style has changed to more americanized rather than traditional music. And they have added more rhythms and airy vocals. Its really good. Shows Talitha MacKenzies full talent in vocals. Its their most popular album. check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:15:48 -0500 From: zzhughesb@acad.winthrop.edu Subject: "SLIVER" To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi All!!! I just recently joined this mailing list, so I'm not sure if this will go through- I hope so... I was just wondering if anyone knew where I could find the version of "Principles of Lust" that is in the movie "SLIVER"?? (It is when Sharon Stone is looking out the window and William Baldwin walks up behind her, naked I might ad and looking very sexy, and they start to ****...) Anyway, I would love to have that version. I have the "SLIVER" soundtrack, but it's not on it.... Also, what other music is out there besides Deep Forest?? I enjoy "psychological, sexy" music such as MOODSWINGS(i.e. "Spiritual High") Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:45:08 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: "SLIVER" To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Brian, > I was just wondering if anyone knew where I could find the version of > "Principles of Lust" that is in the movie "SLIVER"?? (It is when Sharon > Stone is looking out the window and William Baldwin walks up behind her, naked > I might ad and looking very sexy, and they start to ****...) Anyway, I would > love to have that version. I have the "SLIVER" soundtrack, but it's not on This is actually a difference between the US and the European editions of the Sliver soundtrack album, as you can find this Everlasting Lust Mix of 'Principles Of Lust' on the European edition. Apart from the single (hard to get...), you will find this particular version on the MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition album, and the UK special edition of the Age Of Loneliness CD-single. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:46:19 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: ****Enigma's Mystical Lyrics**** To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jeremy Fox Wrote: >>> it's quite obvious that 'the voice and the snake' is pretty frightening, >> >>> Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? ******************************************************************************** Hi, I personally, do not think that Enigma's music is Scary!!!! Enigma's music is Fascinating!!!!!:):):):) I think that the voice and the snake add a very deep *****MYSTICAL***** feeling to the music. Enigma's music is wonderful for meditation!! It can put one into a very relaxed, heart pumping, and alluring trance.:):):):):) Just mua's thoughts.:) Keep Smiling!!! Luv, *Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA* ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:27:12 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: **Angelic Enigma Album** To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au YE MIN THAN Wrote: My idea for the new Enigma album is to use the theme "Angels". MCMXC A.D. >used Gregorian Chants, the Cross of Changes used ethnical chants. And the >third one, in my best imaginations, should uses the voices of angels and >spirits, presumely strange female voices. Of course, you need to imagine >what it will sounds like but I am positive that it can be a theme. Using >voices of angels and spirits is a new idea and will certainly sounds great. >Of course, >you will say nobody knows how is the voice of angels. But as a musician, I will >say you can (especially Michael)!!!!!! The beautiful chants and voices of >female angels, noises of string instruments, harp, vibraphone..etc. > >Well that's my imagination for the new album!!! What do you think, guys??? Hi Ye Min Than, Brilliant, Brilliant Idea!!!!!! Your imagination is Wonderful!!! I think that would be fabulous. Theme: *Angels*!!!!! Smiles!!! I like your thought about having diffrent voices and sound's to give the album a strong angelic effect. Some good examples of how effective diffrent sound effects are in music are the song's: *Enigma's*-Principles of Lust, you know when you hear the love sounds-moaning. *Madonna's*-Dear Jessie, when you hear the baby laughing. *Enya's*-Marble Halls, when you hear the beautiful humming. *Deep Forest*, african chanting, many different sound effects. *Depechmode's*-Clean, the sound effects are phenominal, it kind of sounds like spacic disks are floating in the air. Etc.......The list could go on forever.........:) My point is that, without the many sound effects. The music wouldn't be nearly as effective!!!! The above song's would not be all that they are. Enigma's music is phenominal!!!! They have every potential to make countless number's of great album's. And I agree with Ye Min, the theme of *Angels* could be wonderful for one of Enigma's albums!!!!! There music is already very angelic. It's so very exciting to think about how Wonderful they could make an album with such a theme!!!!! with any theme.............there great!!!! Happy Listening Everyone!!!! Forever Keep Smiling!!!! Luv, *Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, AZ, USA* (P.S. Peter Geisheker-What instruments are used in the song of yours that has the sound effect of something being "wound"? It sounds like someone is winding up something. I'm sorry, I'm not sure of the title of the particular song that I'm talking about.:) Anyway, I just thought that I would tell you that "it is a great Sound Effect"!!!! Smiles!!!) (P.S. Hi Lamar James Rome! Smiles!) (P.S. Silver Flag Boy, I love You Honey!!!!) ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:58:51 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: **Inspirations of Enigma** To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Christian Saborio Wrote: > I'm not looking for commentaries like "Enigma rules!" or "Never mind the >mainstream, we are different". Speak up, tell us what Enigma does for >you. English is not my native language, but I'll try to start with what >I want to listen from now on...for a change. > > Hi Enigmites, I agree with Christian, let's speak about the inspirations of Enigma.:):) I have a wonderful Enigma experiance that I shall tell you all.:) This past Monday evening, I had a dance audition for an out of state fraternity dance show. My dance partner and I had chosen Enigma's song "Return to Innocence" as the song we would dance to for the occasion-. In the middle of the song, we added a little Technotronic to give it a twist and surprising retro boost. It was such an amazing feeling, dancing to music that I really love. Music that tugs at my heart and really uplifts my spirit. I'm sure that any of you whom are dancer's, know what I'm feeling. The more your heart and soul are in tune with the music!!!!! I had so much fun!!!!!! I was so nervous the whole day about the audition. However, as soon as Enigma's song was playing, all of my tensions dissappeared. I became lost in their music. At that moment, I was in tune with the spirit of the music. The point is, **Enigma's music inspires me**. I adore listening to their music, dancing to their music............... Enigma's music is truly inspires me, as I'm sure it inspires all of you!!!!!! I look forward to their new album!!!!!! And I look forward to hearing other Enigma Inspirations.:):) Hint, Hint!!!!!! Forever Keep Smiling!!!!:):):):)Happy Listening everybody!!!!!! Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:59:34 +0100 From: ymthan@iprolink.ch (Ye Min Than) Subject: **Inspirations of Enigma** To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, Well I have a different inspiration of Enigma than Rachelle. I am a senior university student and my major is International Studies. As you know in this major, I have to write a lot of term papers. Sometimes it happened to me that I write until dawn!!! Whenever I write a paper, I listen to Enigma with my headphones and work my paper on my computer. Listening to Enigma brings me to another world, into the world of music, spirits and meditation!!! I feel so good that I can write non-stop! It gives me such wonderful new ideas. I simply love it. Enigma music gives me strength, energy and ideas to write my papers!!! It's simply wonderful....... Enjoy listening to Enigma, the classic of our times........ Ye Min Than Internet ProLink PC User ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:36:32 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Pete Wrote: I just think the new enigma album should contain some hot bass >lines...written by me. > >What do you think Rachelle? > >Peter C. Geisheker Wonderful Idea Pete!!!!:) Hello All of you Wonderful Enigma Fans:), I must tell everyone that I *adore* Peter Geisheker's Music!!!! I'm sure that you would all love his music!!! We are all searching for Enigma-like music, am I right, or am I right.:) Well, here I am with great news to save your day. Smiles!!! I can assure you that Peter's music is"very"*Enigma*-like. Geisheker has an incredible style that is all his own.* Peter's music condures up many emotions & feelings. Mixtures of Love, Passion, Lust, Sadness, Adventure, Excitement, Tranquility, etc.......His sound is very lovely and relaxing. The base is definately great!!!!!! When I listen to his music. It makes me think of my boyfriend (Alex, I love you Honey!!!!!*:) & romantic rondavues & fanstasies. Peter's music is very alluring!!!!! You would all love his music!!!! Isn't it great!!!! We have a composer of wonderful music that sends message into the EML list almost everyday. "How lucky we are"!!!!! Smiles!!!! Happy Listening Everyone!!!!!!! Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA -Geisheker Fan- (P.S. So Pete, Where's our Musical lesson for the day? Ha, Ha, Ha...... Um, um, um, your fame is causing you to slack off. Tis, tis, tis........ Just Kidding!!!!! Smiles!!!-You see, I can be annoying too!) ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:58:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander DeDios Subject: *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > >What do you think Rachelle? > > > >Peter C. Geisheker > > Wonderful Idea Pete!!!!:) > > Hello All of you Wonderful Enigma Fans:), > > I must tell everyone that I *adore* Peter Geisheker's Music!!!! > I'm sure that you would all love his music!!! We are all searching for > Enigma-like music, am I right, or am I right.:) Well, here I am with great > news to save your day. Smiles!!! I can assure you that Peter's music > is"very"*Enigma*-like. Hmmm, How can I obtain samples of this music Peter? I'm pretty sure a lot of us would love to hear your work. Keep it up. :) -Alex de Dios ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 13:14:57 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Rachelle, you are much too kind! I must of accidentally mailed you my tape of enigma's new material that Michael Cretu mailed to me becaue Michael and I go way back and he likes me to review his music and give him pointers before he publishes it.....NOT! As far as mailing out tapes to people, I am rather broke. I jsut purchased the brand new Roland XP-50 synthesizer workstaion which happens to be the most amazing musical instrument ever made. My ears love me but my bank account hates me. So, back to the tape thing. I really don't know how I want to do this. I really don't want to make people pay for it but I don't think I have any other choice. So, what I will do is mail you a tape for $1.50. That pays for the cost of a tape and postage practically to the cent. The tape has 3 songs on it. As I mentioned, I just bought a very powerful new synthesizer so I will be composing like a mad man for the next couple of months. At that time I could put 5-6 songs on a tape for the same price and the songs will be MUCH better, both in acctually quality of the compositon and the recording quality. If you want a tape like right now, mail a $1.50 to: Peter C. Geisheker, 2261 Eastman Ave., Apt. #3, Green Bay, WI 54302. If you are not located in the U.S., I will need $3.50 to cover the postage and tape cost. Thank you so very much for your support! Knowing that people enjoy my music makes me feel more joy than you could ever imagine. Peter C. Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:57:45 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au And here is our host Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin, (cheer) ROFL Sorry, just *had* to get it out! :) > Geisheker has an incredible style that is all his own.* Peter's >music condures up many emotions & feelings. Mixtures of Love, Passion, >Lust, Sadness, Adventure, Excitement, Tranquility, etc.......His sound is >very lovely and relaxing. The base is definately great!!!!!! > > When I listen to his music. It makes me think of my boyfriend >(Alex, I love you Honey!!!!!*:) & romantic rondavues & fanstasies. Peter's >music is very alluring!!!!! > > You would all love his music!!!! Isn't it great!!!! We have a >composer of wonderful music that sends message into the EML list almost >everyday. "How lucky we are"!!!!! Smiles!!!! > > Happy Listening Everyone!!!!!!! > >Luv, > > Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA > -Geisheker Fan- > >(P.S. So Pete, Where's our Musical lesson for the day? Ha, Ha, Ha...... >Um, um, um, your fame is causing you to slack off. Tis, tis, tis........ >Just Kidding!!!!! Smiles!!!-You see, I can be annoying too!) > > > > > > > >******************************************* > Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin > rachelle@amug.org > *Angel* > *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! >******************************************** |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 23:43:09 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. Our ever exuberant Rachelle wrote: > I must tell everyone that I *adore* Peter Geisheker's Music!!!! > I'm sure that you would all love his music!!! We are all searching for > Enigma-like music, am I right, or am I right.:) Well, here I am with great > news to save your day. Smiles!!! I can assure you that Peter's music > is"very"*Enigma*-like. Hmmm, I strongly disagree about that. While Pete's music is very good, I found absolutely no link to it being Enigma-like at all (apart from the fact that they both use electronic keyboards!). If you had to compare Pete's work to anybody (and you shouldn't have to), it would be some uniquely electronic composer such as Jean Michel Jarre. > You would all love his music!!!! Isn't it great!!!! We have a > composer of wonderful music that sends message into the EML list almost > everyday. "How lucky we are"!!!!! Smiles!!!! This is the part of your post I can agree with! Pete I liked the overall sound and some effects you used on the tracks - I will give more details via personal email. Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 09:31:54 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: *Peter C. Geisheker-Music of Wonders* To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Neil Cutler wrote: And here is our host Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin, (cheer) >ROFLSorry, just *had* to get it out! :) Smiles!!!!:):):)Your funny!!!!! Keep up the Cheerful Attitude!! Forever Keep Smiling!!!!! Luv, :)Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA:) > > >> Geisheker has an incredible style that is all his own.* Peter's >>music condures up many emotions & feelings. Mixtures of Love, Passion, >>Lust, Sadness, Adventure, Excitement, Tranquility, etc.......His sound is >>very lovely and relaxing. The base is definately great!!!!!! >> >> When I listen to his music. It makes me think of my boyfriend >>(Alex, I love you Honey!!!!!*:) & romantic rondavues & fanstasies. Peter's >>music is very alluring!!!!! >> >> You would all love his music!!!! Isn't it great!!!! We have a >>composer of wonderful music that sends message into the EML list almost >>everyday. "How lucky we are"!!!!! Smiles!!!! >> >> Happy Listening Everyone!!!!!!! >> >>Luv, >> >> Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA >> -Geisheker Fan- >> >>(P.S. So Pete, Where's our Musical lesson for the day? Ha, Ha, Ha...... >>Um, um, um, your fame is causing you to slack off. Tis, tis, tis........ >>Just Kidding!!!!! Smiles!!!-You see, I can be annoying too!) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>******************************************* >> Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin >> rachelle@amug.org >> *Angel* >> *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! >>******************************************** > >|\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ >| \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( >| \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ > | (o)(o) ||// | / >email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | >IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider >Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the > "difference between a >"I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my >hand?" >"***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:21:06 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: :)Happy Thanksgiving Enigmites!:) To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Paul Kucera Wrote: > In some ways I miss no longer subscribing to the Enigma list. Hi Enigmites:) I hope that Everyone had a Wonderful Thanksgiving Holiday!!!!!:):):):) I want to Thank Gavin & the EML Crew for the Enigma Mailing List!!!!!:):):):) Gavin your doing a terriffic job!!!!! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!!!:):):):):) I would miss the EML list very much also. This is why I will not unsubscribe myself:) Thanks to everyone that fills this list with joyful happy messages!!!!! I only wish I had more time to read all of them:). Your Truly Wonderful!!!!!! Happy Listening!!!!!!!!!! Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:39:42 -0700 (MST) From: S E Pechin Subject: : Hello! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, everyone. This is S.E.Pechin, here to introduce myself. I am 18, and I am a student at the University of Utah. I first heard Enigma on the radio, and I liked it immediately. I would say that Ambient music such as Enigma, Deep Forest, Delerium, and William Orbit is my primary musical intrest, with other musical intrests in areas like New Wave. I'm happy to be here. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 22:26:41 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I was at Blockbuster Music yesterday and stumbled on a great CD that I thought I should share. It is a soundtrack for a movie called "Bahkra." I think that is how you spell it. i happened to have never heard of any of the artist , except Dead Can Dance, which contributed an auesome song, but they are all quite really good in their own respect. There is a great variety to the music on the CD but it is all very ethnic, if you can call it that, but it all has commonalities with Enigma. I highly recomend it. Dinh Le ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 16:10:20 +-100 From: GA Burghout Subject: To: "'enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au'" It's been 2 weeks now since I subscribed to the EML and now that the = "cross mailing" has ended I love it even more. Among all my friends, = relatives and colleagues there is only one person who understands my = passion for Enigma music. The rest simply hates it. For me it's a "big = relief" to share my interest and affection for Enigma (related) music = worldwide. When I subscribed to the EML I received a mailing saying I should sort = of introduce myself. Well, here goes nothing ... My name is Gerben Burghout, I am 30 years old and I live in the northern = part of Holland. I used to work as a assistant export manager for a = company that produces stainless steel cases for the chemical industrie. = Used to, because due to a reorganization I am out of work since the 13th = of October. And yes, that was on a friday ... I am hoping to find a job soon as a system administrator.I've done CNA = (Certif. Netware Admin.) and I am doing CNE (Certif. Netware Engineer) = right now to improve my knowledge (that really sounds stale he) and for = fatter pay checks. I first heared of Enigma when they realeased there first single and = bought MCMXC immediately. I still is one the best CD's I've got. During = a visit with friends in Canada in the summer of '93, (why do I get the = feeling this sounds like a song?), I was "browsing" in a CD store in = Guelph (near Toronto) when I saw a videoclip of the first single from = TCOC album. Needless to say I purchased that album aswell. My Enigma "collection" contains (of course) both albums and the = limited-edition releases of both, a music video tape of MCMXC and the = Enigma video compile. The last tape only holds 5 tracks (4 tracks of the = MCMXC limited-edition CD and one from the TCOC limited-edition CD). Not = a very extensive collection, I admit, but there's only so much money I = can spend on CD's, so I am doing the best I can. There seems to be a = video of TCOC album aswell and that will be my next "investment". If = there's anyone out there who knows if there are any VideoCD's of Enigma = I would really appreciate to hear. Talking about Enigma and Enigma related music I also got 2 CD's of Deep = Forest and all the CD's of Jean Michel Jarre. In one the mailings = someone described there music as COMPLEX MOOD MUSIC. Brilliant !!! I = wish I had come up with that ... Well, I guess this is it. I hope my english makes any sence. I have no = trouble at all reading or speaking it but writing is a whole different = ball game. I am looking forward to any message and from the EML in = particular. Greetz, gaburgh@cybercomm.nl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:39 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Affinity MOD, new Enya cd To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well when I was looking for Amiga MOD files (type of music on the computer) and while I was going through TimeLords MOD collection (search in Web Crawler to find it) and I found one called Affinity, just though I'd tell you that it uses samples from Enigma including vocals from I love you, I'll kill you. Sounds cool. BTW, sounds even better hooked up to your Hi-Fi stereo! I also found a new Enya album in the music store, came out this year called Mystic Forests or something like that, does anybody have that and what do they think of it? Well just thought i'd post something, since there hasn't been much for a while. |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienKlaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:34:03 -0700 (MST) From: S E Pechin Subject: Ambient Wave To: Enigma Mailing List It seems that no one has a name for Enigma-like music. May I make a suggestion? How about Ambient Wave? Music that surounds or envelops a person in rising and falling waves of sound. I think that would be a good description. What do you think? S.E.Pechin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:36:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Enigma Subject: Ambient Wave To: S E Pechin On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, S E Pechin wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:34:03 -0700 (MST) > From: S E Pechin > To: Enigma Mailing List > Subject: Ambient Wave > > It seems that no one has a name for Enigma-like music. May I make a > suggestion? How about Ambient Wave? Music that surounds or envelops a > person in rising and falling waves of sound. I think that would be a > good description. What do you think? > > S.E.Pechin > How about new age ambient - it seems that this isthe sort of music that is going to replace the *classical* music of old. Perhaps soemthing along those lines would be more appropiate. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 12:53:28 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Ambient Wave To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Please, please do not describe the music as "new age." Electronic instrumental composers hate that label, myself included. Ambient wave sounds pretty good. With a little more brainstorming I think we can come up with a better title, however. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:41:19 +0000 (GMT) From: "The Silver-Flag Boy" Subject: Ambient Wave To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Please, please do not describe the music as "new age." Electronic > instrumental composers hate that label, myself included. So do I. It sounds too 'cult', too much part of a cliques's culture. Enigma's music goes across boundaries, it is 'non-ideological'. Anyone can like it. Alex -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CGCE, 324 Holly Cross, Keele, Staffordshire, ST5 5JB u3a97@cc.keele.ac.uk If time travel were possible, we'd know about it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 12:56:17 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Ambient Wave To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I just wanted to say that I describe my music and the music of enigma, etc., as "electronic instumental." I try to use the label "new age" as little as possible. However, like I mentioned before, I think the members of this mailing list can come-up with a much better label. I like ambient but not wave. Peter C. Geishekr For the people who are becoming sick of all the sampling of voices like Deep Forest and all the Deep Forest wantabees, I can assure you that my music has no vocal sampling. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:47:43 EST From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Ambient Wave To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Please, please do not describe the music as "new age." Electronic >instrumental composers hate that label, myself included. It is most unfortunate that "new age" has taken on a connotation to which most artists do not want to be associated with it. I find there is a common theme to most of the works labeled as "new age", which I tend to like very much. But the term has taken on a schlocky meaning; I know if I was a composer I'd hate having my music labeled that way. Oh, lastly, I do not consider Enigma to be "new age". I'm not sure how to classify it (or even if I should), but it's definitely not "new age". Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:40:15 +0100 From: e4068@iut-orsay.fr (ONETO Vincent TP231) Subject: Ambient Wave To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au and what about "Spiritual Ambient" ? Yours, Vincent Oneto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 18:39:06 -0500 (EST) From: Philip Jon Shipley Subject: Angel X To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Delpha) I came across a cd-single of Angel-X entitled "I would never fall in love with you again" The only reason I wanted to share this with you is because as we all know Angel does some vocals in "return to innocence" on The Cross of Changes. The disc itself is only 3-tracks in length. A radio edit, emotion mix, and jazzy organ mix. Another interesting note is that it was produced and arranged by Cretu and Jens Gad. The music is, well "catchy" but nothing close to Enigma and its similars. Angel does sound the same as in the Cross of Changes however. The disc says the cut was taken from the album "Welcome to the Soul Asylum" Anyone heard of this or the single I'm talking about??-- Take care for now. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 13:27:25 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: Angel X To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, >I came across a cd-single of Angel-X entitled "I would never fall in love with >you again" The only reason I wanted to share this with you is because as we all >know Angel does some vocals in "return to innocence" on The Cross of Changes. >The disc itself is only 3-tracks in length. A radio edit, emotion mix, and >jazzy organ mix. Another interesting note is that it was produced and arranged >by Cretu and Jens Gad. The music is, well "catchy" but nothing close to >Enigma and its similars. Angel does sound the same as in the Cross of Changes >however. The disc says the cut was taken from the album "Welcome to the Soul >Asylum" Anyone heard of this or the single I'm talking about??-- I've got the same single, and I've also got the album. The album has been produced by Michael Cretu and Jens Gad and contains normal pop songs, nothing Enigma-like. If you like the single, you also might like the album. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:02:19 -0600 (CST) From: Valeng Cha Subject: B-Tribe's new album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This may be old news but did B-Tribe come out with a new album? Is it called "Suave" or something? Is it comparable to the first? What are all your thoughts on this group? I really like "Fiesta Fatal". I got it from a friend last year and it sounds really good. Do any of you know of the group "Voices From Africa"? -Valeng Cha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 22:38:08 -0500 From: GolferDude@aol.com Subject: Baraka To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In a message dated 95-11-06 13:47:47 EST, Owner-enigma-digest@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au writes: >] > >I was at Blockbuster Music yesterday and stumbled on a great CD that I >thought I should share. It is a soundtrack for a movie called >"Bahkra." I think that is how you spell it. i happened to have never >heard of any of the artist , except Dead Can Dance, which contributed an >auesome song, but they are all quite really good in their own respect. >There is a great variety to the music on the CD but it is all very >ethnic, if you can call it that, but it all has commonalities with >Enigma. I highly recomend it. > >Dinh Le If you think the CD of the soundtrack from "Baraka" is interesting, you should see the film (recently released on video). It'll make you think. And wonder! And gasp!! It's amazing!!!!!! [Those extra exclamation points were for Rachelle!!!] But it's not for everyone . . . no dialogue, no plot. Just beautiful cinematography and great music. "But is there a point to be made by the filmmaker, GolferDude," you ask. Oh yes, but far be it from me to pretend I know the meaning of all you see. I suspect everyone comes away with a slighter different interpretation. So, you're on your own! - GolferDude (recently back to cold Wisconsin from sunny Florida, where I was known as GulferDude) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:45:05 -0700 (MST) From: Holly Braithwaite Subject: Baraka To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au interesting name for a movie, I guess I'll have to check it out if the cinemaphotography is keen!!! As fo rthe soundtrack, can you get it anywhere? Holly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 12:56:33 -0800 From: cschell@oberon.ark.com Subject: Baraka To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >In a message dated 95-11-06 13:47:47 EST, >Owner-enigma-digest@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au writes: > >>] >> >>I was at Blockbuster Music yesterday and stumbled on a great CD that I >>thought I should share. It is a soundtrack for a movie called >>"Bahkra." I think that is how you spell it. i happened to have never >>heard of any of the artist , except Dead Can Dance, which contributed an >>auesome song, but they are all quite really good in their own respect. >>There is a great variety to the music on the CD but it is all very >>ethnic, if you can call it that, but it all has commonalities with >>Enigma. I highly recomend it. >> >>Dinh Le > Has anyone else heard this CD? More information regarding style of music and involved artists is gretaly appreciated. And what is the exact name of the CD, Bahkra or Bakara? TIA Cschell@oberon.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:54:04 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: bass lines To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, I've read some messages in which you mentioned artists which have good bass-lines in their songs. I think you should try some soul/r&b singers, eg Chante Moore who also has beautiful bass-lines in a lot of her songs, listen to "Love's taken over" from her first album "Precious". I know she hasn't anything to do with Enigma, but I thought I should mention her since she's my all-time favorite singer, and now I've got a good reason to do it. Sade (some of you mentioned her) has indeed also very good bass-lines, and not only that, all of her music is very good. I've got all of her albums and also a couple of live albums and some other things. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:38:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Belle De Jour To: enigma i rented a video like last weekend and it had previews, lots of them, point being that there was one for Bell de Jour that french movie which is supposed to be, according to the clip "the most celebrated piece of erotic cinema ever." Anyway my point is that the music taht was played for the previews was EXTREMELY good. It has a the same almost identical beat to Sadeness, but then it was dieffernt enough for me not to recognize it until I replayed it like 6 times. It sounds like Cretu's work. I was just wondering if anyone out there has seen the previews for it? And if there were more versions of Sadeness out there taht I don't have. I have the US CD single which contains: 1)Violent US Mix 2) Meditaion Mix 3) Extended Trance 4) Radio edit If anyone has info please e-mail me privately. Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:02:02 -0800 From: cschell@oberon.ark.com Subject: Belle Epoque and JM Jarre To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is what Gavin Stock said about JMJ album "Zoolok". It's actually Jean Michel Jarre's "Zoolook". The first track "Ethnicolor" is brilliant - an electronic masterpiece! "Zoolooklogie" is also incredibly good, but unfortunately the rest of the album is nowhere near as good. So if you're willing to buy an album for 15 minutes of brilliant music, it's worth it! I have the above album myself and agree with Gavin. But it is totally different from Enigma (no singing,no chanting and no dance rhythm). It is basically electronic/ambient music with superb use of sound samples! I don't think it is very social music or suitable as background music. I enjoy it most when I am alone and do nothing but sit back and listen to it (loud!!). I don't have any other albums of JMJ, but I think his album "Oxygen" (1978??) is the most widely known. There is a review of "Belle Epoque" on the Enigma Home Page written by Gavin Stock. Hope this helps, Cschell@oberon.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:47:23 GMT From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Boheme - Native Americans To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Josh - are you sure that the samples on Cafe Europa are Native American? I agree that they do sound similar but as far as I was aware they are Romanian/Hungarian in origin. By the way, if anyone knows of anything at all like Sacred Spirit, suggestions would be appreciated. Jez. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:44:11 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: Boheme - Native Americans To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Josh - are you sure that the samples on Cafe Europa are Native American? I agree that they do sound similar but as far as I was aware they are Romanian/Hungarian in origin. > > By the way, if anyone knows of anything at all like Sacred Spirit, suggestions would be appreciated. > > > Jez. > I'm pretty sure that they are smaples of Native Americans because they say in the credits that they are of the Yurock and Tolowa Indian tribes, and these are Native Americans. See ya! Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:32:04 -0500 (EST) From: Joel Hart Subject: Can someone tell me about..... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma List) I got a chance to visit a Blockbuster Music store yesterday that I had never been in and while they did not have any Enigma CDs that I didn't already have, they did have a couple of things that peaked my interest. One of these things was an album by Michael Cretu...I knew about "The Invisible Man" and "Die Chenische Mauer" (sp?), but for the first time I saw "Belle Epoque" by Cretu and Theirs (CAT). The CD only had about 8 tracks and was priced at about US $27, so I didn't buy it, but I was wondering how it is compared to the Enigma projects ? I'd appreciate opinions from those who own the album or have just heard it from some other source. One of my other questions has to do with the number of Jean Michael Jarre CDs that I saw there. I think they had about 4 different ones and I remembered his name being listed as a French artist who was similar to Enigma. Could someone tell me which of his albums would be the best "first" album to get ? Those that I saw weren't listed as imports, so they weren't so pricey, so I may buy more than one, but I'd like to know which are the best. If I had more free time, I'd just go back to the Blockbuster Music and listen to it there before I bought it, but I don't really have the time right now, and I could enjoy it as background music once I bought it.... I'll be looking forward to the comments...TIA. --- Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:45:35 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Can someone tell me about.....\ To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Joel. You asked: > I got a chance to visit a Blockbuster Music store yesterday that I had > never been in and while they did not have any Enigma CDs that I didn't > already have, they did have a couple of things that peaked my interest. > One of these things was an album by Michael Cretu...I knew about > "The Invisible Man" and "Die Chenische Mauer" (sp?), but for the first > time I saw "Belle Epoque" by Cretu and Theirs (CAT). The CD only had > about 8 tracks and was priced at about US $27, so I didn't buy it, but > I was wondering how it is compared to the Enigma projects ? I'd > appreciate opinions from those who own the album or have just heard > it from some other source. There's a review of it on the Web site (address below)... I personally like it quite a lot - it's good solid European rock. Don't expect it to be anything like Enigma (except for a few recognisable samples here and there!) > One of my other questions has to do with the number of Jean Michael > Jarre CDs that I saw there. I think they had about 4 different ones > and I remembered his name being listed as a French artist who was > similar to Enigma. Could someone tell me which of his albums would > be the best "first" album to get ? Those that I saw weren't listed Probably the best of called "Images". If you like good electronic music with lots of effects get "Chronologie", otherwise if you want 'weirder' music get "Zoolook" (although I think it's only worth it for around 2 or 3 tracks). Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 03:24:47 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Change in URL for Enigma and Sandra web pages To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Due to organisational restructuring here at Stavanger College (including a switch from hsr.no to his.no as the domain name), the addresses for the (original) Enigma page and the Sandra page will change slightly. Thus the new URLs are: Enigma http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/Enigma.html Into A Secret Land - The Sandra Homepage http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/Sandra.html If you have any links or bookmark entries, please update them so they will reflect the new addresses. My email address will still be joarg@hsr.no for the time being. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:38:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: Cirque du Soleil (FAQ) To: rachelle@amug.org Hello Rachelle, I don't want to start an "official" FAQ about le Cirque du Soleil but=20 just to try to answer some of your questions ( from yours previous=20 posting ). - Le Cirque du Soleil (Circus of the Sun) is based in Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec)= .=20 They have 2 or 3 groups touring all around the world. - They have 5 CD on the market. Both are on RCA / BMG label: =09a) Cirque du Soleil (09026-62523-2/4) =09b) Nouvelle Exp=E9rience (New experience) (09026-61531-2/4) =09c) Saltimbanco (09026-61486-2/4) =09d) Myst=E8re (Mystery) (09026-62686-2/4) =09e) Alegria (09026-62701-2) - The music of Alegria ( and almost all other CD ) was composed by Ren=E9= =20 Dup=E9r=E9 - The "lead" signer on Alegria is Francesca Gagnon. She was born in=20 Qu=E9bec from Italian and Qu=E9b=E9cois roots. - Everything ( show, costumes, choregraphy, music, song, recording, ...) is= =20 proudly made in Qu=E9bec. - If you need more infos, you can reach them at: =09Le Cirque du Soleil =091217, rue Notre-Dame Est =09Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) =09H2L 2R3 =09tel: +1(514) 522.23.24 =09 +1(800) 678.21.19 =09fax: +1(514) 522.21.88=09 =09 _____________________________________________________________________=20 Jacques-Bertrand Pichette=09| Email:=09=09 =20 | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ =20 This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. =20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 12:03:53 -0500 From: PKucera@aol.com Subject: Cirque Du Soliel To: rachelle@amug.org, enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Rachelle: How are you? In some ways I miss no longer subscribing to the Enigma list, but in other ways I do not. I just could no longer put up with the voluminous drivel cluttering up my hardrive and consuming my valuable time. Hopefully things have improved over there. (I now subscribe to the Jekyll & Hyde list, but I may soon have to cut that out also -- too much time.) I just wanted to pass on to you (so that you could forward it to the Enigma list) my new found passion for the music of Cirque Du Soliel, the amazing circus/theater/concert experience out of Quebec. The currently touring production is called "Alegria," and I saw it a few weeks ago here in Washington, DC. (President Clinton was in attendance with Hilary and Chelsea.) Cirque Du Soliel ("serk du so-lay") is known internationally, and every two years or so, they produce a new tour which they take on the road globally. An important part of the show is the original music score. Alegria ("ah lay gree-a") is an interesting mix of NEW AGE OPERA, INTELLECTUAL POP, and INTERESTINGLY ORCHESTRATED WORLD MUSIC. Those songs that are sung (about 75% of the CD) are performed by a woman with a very apealing, almost raspy voice. I think she is either Czech or Slovak. I can't be certain, but it sounds like she sings in Italian, French, Spanish, and even Hebrew. The Alegria CD is the music from the current tour. Other CD's from prior shows are also available. I hear that "Saltimbanco" is also very good. I believe that folks who enjoy Enigma would really get into this stuff. It's..... it's....... COMPLEX MOOD MUSIC. Yeah... that's it. If this inspires any worthwhile discussion on the list, please let me know. Keep hittin' that "!" key, and have a nice Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:56:20 -0700 (MST) From: "" Subject: Commercial To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Has anyone ever seen the commercial for "Vaseline Intensive Care Lotion" that has some enigma-like music playing in the background?? I like the music, I was wondering if anyone has heard it before or knows where it's from? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 22:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Commercial To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I don't think it's Enigma, but does anyone know who it it? Zokakon jeffrey2@muvms6.mu.wvnet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:01:53 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Dao-Dezi! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I must also agree that I am all for "enigma-like" music instead of just Enigma music. There just isn't enough to talk about with two cd's and 5 or 6 maxi-singles... So, my question. What album is the "good enigma like" album for Doa-Dezi that everyone is buzzing about. I have heard enough of this group that now I am very curious...also, if you don't have Delerium's "Semantic Spaces", you are crazy and don't know what you are missing... Take it easy everyone!!! LJR I > If it were not for this list, though, I would never have heard of DAO-DEZI, but > when I saw it on here, I bought it and I am so glad that I did !!! Keep up the > great posts guys !!!! > > *E*N*I*G*M*A****R*U*L*E*S****F*O*R*E*V*E*R***!*!*!*!*!*!*! > > bdrake@globalvision.net > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:52:31 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Dao-Dezi! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The CD by DAO DEZI is self-titled (I think !!). It was released in 1994 by Capitol Records. I found it at BEST BUY !!! But any self-respecting music store SHOULD carry it !!! Later, Brad Drake bdrake@globalvision.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:18:25 -0800 From: Quad Subject: Dao-Dezi! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:52:31 +0500 >Subject: Re: Dao-Dezi! > >The CD by DAO DEZI is self-titled (I think !!). It was released in 1994 by >Capitol Records. I found it at BEST BUY !!! But any self-respecting music >store SHOULD carry it !!! > >Later, > >Brad Drake >bdrake@globalvision.net A quick note about Dao Dezi (yes, it is self-titled): It is actually a project that is related to Deep Forest. Specifically, one of the two Deep Forest members, Eric Mouquet, did this on his own, although I understand that Michel Sanchez plays on parts of it as well. It apparently has some of the same flavor as Deep Forest (I haven't heard it myself). >From what I hear, it may only be available in the US as an import from Europe, which may explain why it is so difficult to find. Take care, Don ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:34:44 GMT From: ritahd@ix.netcom.com (Rita H Delaune) Subject: Deep Forest - lyrics? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Okay, now that you all have me hooked on Deep Forest (originally joined this group because I am an Enigma fan!), does anybody possibly have the lyrics (any language!) to Marta's Song and/or Bohemian Ballet? These are my two favorites on Boheme! Also acquired the first CD as well....a lot different than Boheme, but still enjoyable. I must say, I didn't think joining this group would be so expensive!! :) Just from the comments I have read here, I have gone out & purchased MANY tapes & CD's. You guys (& gals) have excellent taste ...... many compliments & thanx!!! Rita R   ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:07:02 -0700 From: ssschool@ccinet.ab.ca (Paul R.) Subject: Deep Forest - lyrics? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Okay, now that you all have me hooked on Deep Forest (originally joined > this group because I am an Enigma fan!), does anybody possibly have the > lyrics (any language!) to Marta's Song and/or Bohemian Ballet? These are > my two favorites on Boheme! Also acquired the first CD as well....a lot > different than Boheme, but still enjoyable. > I must say, I didn't think joining this group would be so > expensive!! :) Just from the comments I have read here, I have gone > out & purchased MANY tapes & CD's. You guys (& gals) have excellent > taste ...... many compliments & thanx!!! > Rita Sounds very familiar, I too was origionally an Enigma fan and have spread my horizions through this group. Thanks to you guys & gals, I am now listening to Delerium, Sarah Brightman, Clannad, Deep Forest (Boheme), and Lords of Acid. All of which were mentioned some time or another on this list, I would just like to say thanks to all for the great references. The lyrics on Boheme are very abstract and hard to discern though, so any help with the lyrics would be appreciated. I have to whole-heartedly agree with Rita here, many compliments & thanx!!! _______ |_______| |aul Roffel Canada Bill Jones' Motto: It's morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:58 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Deep Forest - lyrics? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Sounds very familiar, I too was origionally an Enigma fan and have spread >my horizions through this group. Thanks to you guys & gals, I am now >listening to Delerium, Sarah Brightman, Clannad, Deep Forest (Boheme), and >Lords of Acid. All of which were mentioned some time or another on this >list, I would just like to say thanks to all for the great references. The >lyrics on Boheme are very abstract and hard to discern though, so any help >with the lyrics would be appreciated. > >I have to whole-heartedly agree with Rita here, many compliments & thanx!!! Hip, Hip Hurray, :) I feel the same way. You guys have led me to Enya, now all I need is money to get Delerium and the others. thanx |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "Backup not found (A)bord (R)etry (P)anic" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:51:47 +0100 From: perta@oslonett.no (Per Terje Aune) Subject: Deep Forest vs Boheme To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well... I feel like I have to defend Deep Forest and their new album 'Boheme' a bit. This is because I have read letters from people saying that they hate it and that the music is too different from the first album. My opinion is that if the music of these two albums sounded the same, then something has gone wrong. I mean, they have taken the music from two VERY different cultures in our world, namely African tribes/pygmies and east European areas. The music isn't the same from these cultures, and since Deep Forest try to recreate this kind of music, which they have done very well, then the music would have to be different. Maybe if 'Boheme' had been released first, people would hate 'Deep Forest' for its unusual music; unusual because people would have become familiar with the music of 'Boheme' and expected something similar. This is no criticism of those who have expressed their opinions, but just a possible explanation of why the music has changed. Thanks, From: Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:14:33 -0700 (MST) From: S E Pechin Subject: Deep Forest vs Boheme To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In Boheme there is a difference not only from the first album, but also between the different songs. With such a contrast in voices, the album seems to lack continuity. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 09:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Deep Forest vs Boheme To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've recently purchased Deep Forest's Boheme and got into my car and found that it was very enjoyable. I looked forward to reading in the insert the notes about the album, but lo and behold they were in French (I think). Does anyone know where there is a translation? Zokakon -jeffrey2@muvms6.mu.wvnet.edu- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:27:20 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: Deep Forest vs Boheme To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Zokakon wrote: > I've recently purchased Deep Forest's Boheme and got into my car and found > that it was very enjoyable. I looked forward to reading in the insert the > notes about the album, but lo and behold they were in French (I think). Does > anyone know where there is a translation? > > Zokakon > -jeffrey2@muvms6.mu.wvnet.edu- > I think that there is an Eniglish translation on the inside of the cd booklet. There are some listings in French and then there is a slash like this: /. And there should be some of the stuff in English behind the slash!! As for the little paragraph talking about the what changes occured from Deep Forest to Boheme, should be in French in the back and in the fromt cover it is in English. I hope this clears up some of the problem. Bye!! Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: 6 Nov 95 13:49:20 EDT From: Paul Matthews/US/3Com Subject: Delerium To: enigma I definitely agree with Gavin that Delerium's "Semantic Spaces" must be considered as "Enigma Like" music and I'm sure that if you like Enigma you will really enjoy this CD. There are a number of remixes of the "Flowers become Screens" track, available on various samplers etc., but unfortunately it appears that the most prevalent is the "Return to Babylon Mix" which is not as good as the others and is not the version on the Semantic Spaces CD. It would be a mistake to evaluate the Semantic Spaces CD based on the Babylon remix of Flowers become Screens. As much as I enjoy Delerium's music I would only categorize "Semantic Spaces" as Enigma-Like. Their other albums are very interesting and stand on their own merits but sounding like Enigma is not one of them. If you enjoy Semantic Spaces do not rush out to buy everything by Delerium until after you have actually heard some of the music. Some of their music is just a little too dark and foreboding for me but Semantic Spaces is a "must have!!" for any Enigma fan. I'm not sure how many albums they have but here's what I have: Euphoric Third Mind Records Mindfield Third Mind Records Strictly For The Hardcore Nesale International Spheres Dossier Records Reflections I Dossier Records Reflections II Dossier Records Flowers Become Screens Nettwerk Productions Best Regards, Paul M. P.S. Quick intro: As well as Enigma and Delerium I enjoy the music of Stone Edge, The Beloved, Gregorian, Moodswings, Enya, Dead can Dance (went to Lisa Gerrard's concert in Toronto a few weeks ago...awesome!!), Deep Forest (If you haven't heard them yet get the "World Mix" album instead of their original Deep Forest...identical tracks plus a few excellent remixes). I also enjoy the ambient "planetarium" type of music such as "Encounter" and "Galaxies" etc. I have appreciated many of the recommendations made by the members of this list. Demographics: 36 yrs old, married, 8 kids, employed in the datacomms biz, I enjoy basketball (6'6"), chess, and table hockey. Madly in love with my family, have travelled all over the world and love Africa where I spent 2 years as a Mormon Missionary. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:09:49 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: DELERIUM!! To: Enigma Fan Club Har Har Har!! I would like to personally thank Gavin and anyone else who mentioned that Delerium - Semantic Spaces...I bought it and it is wonderful...Very delightfully like ENIGMA!!! If anyone has anymore cool suggestions on this group, I am happy to hear it, or perhaps a http page for this group? LJR I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:00:48 -0700 (MST) From: S E Pechin Subject: Delerium/Media Play To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Enigmatic wrote: > We trust you Gavin! In fact, I was just out at Media Play the other > day looking for this very album that you've been recommending. > Unfortunately, I could not find ANYTHING by the group Delerium in > there. I was disappointed, so I picked up a copy of MCMXC A.D. and > Deep Forest to compensate (oh, and the Star Wars wide-screen box set I couldn't find it at Media Play either, I had to order it. It was worth the wait, but I would have prefered to just pick it up. S.E.Pechin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:41:04 -0700 (MST) From: Holly Braithwaite Subject: Delerium/Media Play To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Though I don't have nearly enough Delerium in my collection, I do have a bit of a beef about the ordering system of Media Play, and if anybody has any suggestions, I would gladly appreciate them. In August, I special ordered a Hara Juku CD of Phantom of the Opera music remixed into techno, Media Play has been so completely rude, I don't want to go back. Does anyone know where else I can get this CD or should I just wait it out for the Media Play pagans to get it in??? P.S. If anyone has any good ideas for new music to play on my radio show here in Utah, I would appreciate it. . . thanks!! Holly B. braith_h@cc.dixie.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 19:24:55 -0500 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: Delerium/Media Play To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Though I don't have nearly enough Delerium in my collection, I do have a >bit of a beef about the ordering system of Media Play, and if anybody has >any suggestions, I would gladly appreciate them. >In August, I special ordered a Hara Juku CD of Phantom of the Opera music >remixed into techno, Media Play has been so completely rude, I don't want >to go back. Does anyone know where else I can get this CD or should I >just wait it out for the Media Play pagans to get it in??? > >P.S. If anyone has any good ideas for new music to play on my radio show >here in Utah, I would appreciate it. . . thanks!! > >Holly B. >braith_h@cc.dixie.edu > > >Hmmm...could you tell me more about the Phantom album? Sounds interesting! Thanks, jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:46:50 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander DeDios Subject: Delerium/Media Play To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, Holly Braithwaite wrote: > Though I don't have nearly enough Delerium in my collection, I do have a > bit of a beef about the ordering system of Media Play, and if anybody has > any suggestions, I would gladly appreciate them. > In August, I special ordered a Hara Juku CD of Phantom of the Opera music > remixed into techno, Media Play has been so completely rude, I don't want > to go back. Does anyone know where else I can get this CD or should I Hi Holly, That is a great CD. I have the "old" Harajuku Phantom CD but I believe there is a Harajuka Phantom '95 mix. I'm not sure how much different the mixes are but you can call Tower Records (I don't have the number on me). They have the mail order number on their website though. Hope you find it. -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:46:37 -0700 (MST) From: Holly Braithwaite Subject: Delerium/Media Play To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've been getting alot of questions about this Phantom CD I've ordered, so I'll clue you all into it, and if you think it sounds cool, bug Media Play to order it for you too. First, it's techno, I'm not too fond of techno, but I've been known to like some of it. (There's a great version of "Techno Sesame Street" by the Smartees out there, pick it up!!!) Basically, this artist takes "Music of the Night," the "Phantom of the Opera" theme, and a couple of others and mixes them to techno beats. I first heard it when I went to play laser tag and heard it in the playing arena. I like it, and if Media Play would ever get it in, I could actually hear it again in my lifetime. So, that's what's up. A DJ's true opinion of this CD. Later everyone!!! Holly B. braith_h@cc.dixie.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 19:03:52 -0500 (EST) From: anizami Subject: Did enigma rip off vocals?? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Some chick in the Enya newsgroup claims that Enigma stole the vocals of the chant in their first Enigma album. She says they were sued over the vocals and some settlement was made?? Is this true? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:09:50 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Did enigma rip off vocals?? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, anizami wrote: > > Some chick in the Enya newsgroup claims that Enigma stole the > vocals of the chant in their first Enigma album. She says they > were sued over the vocals and some settlement was made?? > > Is this true? Yes, from what I have read it is true. Michael Cretu was being a bad boy and was caught. At least it gave him free publicity. Pete Geisheker> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 12:24:57 -0400 From: Joseph MacKay Subject: Did enigma rip off vocals?? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, anizami wrote: > > Some chick in the Enya newsgroup claims that Enigma stole the > vocals of the chant in their first Enigma album. She says they > were sued over the vocals and some settlement was made?? > > Is this true? Yeah, they were sued, but the chants weren't in fact stolen. They were in the public domain, so the sampling was legal. However, MC distorted the chants a bit, during the recording. The people who had recorded thr chant sued, claming that the distortion violated their right to creative identity (or something like that). As I remember, they won, but check the FAQ on all of the above, I could be wrong. ____________________________________________ Joseph MacKay (af447@ccn.cs.dal.ca) "Aestheticly pleasing, in other words fly." -Soul Coughing ____________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:57:56 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Echols Subject: Did enigma rip off vocals?? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >From what I understand, they were accused of it. For a good source of info on this, look on the Enigma web page. It should tell all if I remember correctly. Peace, -Me On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, anizami wrote: > > Some chick in the Enya newsgroup claims that Enigma stole the > vocals of the chant in their first Enigma album. She says they > were sued over the vocals and some settlement was made?? > > Is this true? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:39:38 +0500 From: bdrake@globalvision.net Subject: ENIGMA!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I feel the SAME WAY !! I thought it was just me !!!! Brad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 02:26:23 -0500 From: cowboy1@cowboy1.microserve.com (Dennis Bobo) Subject: ENIGMA!!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Please don't think I'm a pervert, but I think Enigma's music is SOOOOO >sexy!!! It's true, I am a very sexual person but I think I like their >music also because it is so psychological. It just puts me into this state >of mind or something. I LOVE it!!!! It's like it really doesn't need words >to convey it's message (however one interprets it)... > >Brian >Try Enigma around an inground pool, on a sunny day, while you're floating in it. Ahhhhhh.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:31:42 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: Enigma & Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Brad Drake Wrote: >Without a doubt, Enigma triumphs over anything ENYA has done, although I love >her music, too !! Hello Brad, Yes, indeed *Enigma* is "WonderfuL"!:):):):):):) However, In my honest opinion, "I do not feel that Enya & Enigma should be compared". Simply because, they aren't the same kind of music. The elements they use aren't the same, the overall sound is not similar. They are two very different and unique kinds of music. I do not think of Enya's music-as Enigma like. I ****ADORE**** both, for different reasons!!!!!! I do realize that everyone has their own opinion.:):):):):) I do respect your's Brad!:):):) Enigma is "Tops"! I just wanted to share this thought.!!:):):):) Forever Keep Smiling & Happy Listening!!!!! Luv, *Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA* ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:48:54 -0400 (AST) From: Daniel Olivera Subject: Enigma & Enya To: Rachelle Hamblin On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, Rachelle Hamblin wrote: > Brad Drake Wrote: > > >Without a doubt, Enigma triumphs over anything ENYA has done, although I love > >her music, too !! > > Hello Brad, > > Yes, indeed *Enigma* is "WonderfuL"!:):):):):):) > > However, In my honest opinion, "I do not feel that Enya & Enigma > should be compared". Simply because, they aren't the same kind of music. > The elements they use aren't the same, the overall sound is not similar. > They are two very different and unique kinds of music. I do not think of > Enya's music-as Enigma like. I ****ADORE**** both, for different > reasons!!!!!! > > I do realize that everyone has their own opinion.:):):):):) I do > respect your's Brad!:):):) Enigma is "Tops"! I just wanted to share this > thought.!!:):):):) > > Forever Keep Smiling & Happy Listening!!!!! > > Luv, > > *Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA* > > ******************************************* > Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin > rachelle@amug.org > *Angel* > *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! > ******************************************** > > > Rachelle: That was the most intelligent answer I've heard in this mail list. Daniel (a big Enigma & Enya fan) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:03:34 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Enigma & Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au RACHELLE, Believe me, I would not DREAM of comparing the two as far as their styles of music !! I love both Enigma and ENYA. I listen to them both. However, someone made a comment to me on the list that sort of sounded like I was choosing ENYA over ENIGMA !!! That I would NEVER do !!! I like them both, but each in their own way !! Well, gotta go. Thanks for the insight, though !! Brad Drake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 11:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Enigma & Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hands to Rachelle Hamblin for the very good answer regarding Enigma and Enya. Zokakon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:14:51 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Enigma & Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is ANOTHER reply to Rachelle's reply about the message I sent regarding Enigma and Enya. If you guys or whomever would have read my previous message, you would see that I am both A HUGE ENIGMA FAN AND A HUGE ENYA FAN. That is all I am going to say on this subject, and I will post no more responses on this issue. And Rachelle, I know that the message I am now responding to was not your fault. I still respect YOUR opinion. Thank you. Brad Drake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:16:09 -0500 (EST) From: anizami Subject: Enigma & Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au You guys should check out Mouth Music. They're a lot like Enya and Enigma and they have a really great album with new style. Check out Shorelife by Mouth Music, probably found in the international music section of wherever you get your music. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 18:00:58 -0500 (EST) From: ALEXANDERK@wmich.edu Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #188 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au HI. I would like to express my appreciation to the group for ending the negativity that seems to weave its way through this bulletin some time ago. What a sweet change!!! Thanks! Another subject I would like to touch upon is the means that Enigma has to stir sexual thoughts and actions via their tempting and delicious tunes. I have a www site that contains poetry out of Seattle Washington by a wonderful person by the name of Jeff Stack. I wrote a poem one night that was inspired by Enigma and a good friend of mine in Australia. It is called "The Dance of Surrender" and can be read at this web address if you are inclined to do so. http://www.wolfenet.com/~jstarr/poetry/ka/poet_ka.html I would like to say in addition, if any of you here are poets, Jeff would like people to submit their poetry to him to view for his poetry forum at his web site. You may mail any entries for review to: jstarr@wolfenet.com I wish you all good listening to Enigma and bands related to this type of music, and a super day! peace to you all may love and kindness touch you all daily in the spirit of Enigma I remain Kim Alexander aka: The Technobrat in the zoo... Kalamazoo Michigan ie. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:23:56 +0000 From: Danielle Rikkoert Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #189 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Maybe it's just me, being plain stupid, but IS THERE REALLY COMING A NEW ENIGMA ALBUM SOON!!!???? please make me see clearly again :) bye, In The Time Of Angels. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:55:15 PST From: Ceace Duchene Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #190 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Neil, The Enya album you are referring to is the self-titled album "Enya" and it contains music from "The Celts," which was a BBC-TV Series from around 1986. It has some wonderful music on it. My personal favorite from the album is "Boadicea." I highly recommend it. ------------------------------------- Name: Ceace Duchene E-mail: ceace@mail.cdc.net (Ceace Duchene) 11/02/95 20:55:15 This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- "Live as you will have wished to have lived when you are dying." Gellert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:07:03 -0600 From: jjohnson@escape.ca Subject: Enigma-digest V1 #199 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Yes, it is called "Robbie Robertson & the Red River Ensemble - Music for >Native Americans" (Capitol Records 1994 #2438-2895-2). Robbie Robertson is I >believe a Native Canadian singer/musician. Most tracks are produced by him. >Other native artists involved are Rita Coolidge and Kashtin (you may have >heard the song "Akua Tuta" which is also on this CD but pretty average IMO). >This is a pretty good compilation IMHO, although not as dance oriented as >"Sacred Spririt". The style and mood changes from track to track with my >favourites being the tracks performed by Robbie Robertson which I guess you >could categorize as ambient pop. ... This is the Robbie Robertson of The Band (The Last Waltz), previously. I have and enjoy his Red Road Ensemble, very much. Upon first hearing it, it was the guest singers like Ulila (sp?) and Kashtin that I favoured, but as time and the CD wore on (I have played it countless times) I found that Robertsons works on that album were most interesting. At first I didn't hear the many layers of sound and feeling to his compositions, but after a while got to find most of them, like secrets, sort of. Cushy and warm and smelling like the earth, thats how I'd describe his music. ...Enigma has been a love at first heareth for me. It too has been played countless times. My daughters words, a couple/few years ago 'Ma, are you playing EggMa AGAIN?!' Definitely one of the albums I would have on a desert island. ...By the way, this is not Josh Johnson, its Joanne (no relation), my first time sending anything to this list and hoping it gets through ok. * Name Joanne Johnson * Age why for you have to know? * What is in your Enigma collection MXMCX and Cross of Changes * Where you first heard Enigma, and how much of a fan you are A friend popped MXMCX into my player at work, and said 'you're gonna love this'. and yes on a scale of fandom - 1 to 10, count me in for 9 chants. * Other artists you like Deep Forest, This Mortal Coil, Sinead O'Connor, Robbie Robertson, Dead Can Dance, Anuna, Clannad, Cowboy Junkies, etc. * What course or job you're doing (if any) I am employed as a graphic designer (I do my work on a Mac) * Any other interesting information you wish to share Not just yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:59:25 +0100 From: Ye Min Than Subject: Enigma...... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, I am a big, big fan of Enigma. And I followed what people were talking about other Enigma-like music on EML. I have to say that no one ever come close to the exquisite works of Michael Cretu. All of these groups such as Deep Forest, Dao Dezi, Delerium, Dead can dance, Enchanted, Enya, are good but very much far from the quality of Enigma. I have nothing against people who talk about Enigma-like music but in the last weeks, nobody talks about Enigma anymore. That's sad because this ML is supposed to be mainly about Enigma. So let's get back to the real theme of the discussion. Enjoy listening to ENIGMA, the classic of our times..... BYE YMT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:29:12 +0100 From: ymthan@iprolink.ch (Ye Min Than) Subject: ENIGMA AND SANDRA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, I am quite happy to hear that there are a lot of Enigmites like myself!!! Before I thought I was alone:) Talking about Enigma-like music, you must realize that all these groups like Deep Forest, Dao Dezi..etc came after Enigma appeared in 1991. It was Enigma who created this new kind of music, a classic of our times..... If you guys are so eager about Enigma-like music, why don't you check out Sandra's albums. They are all produced and composed by Michael Cretu alias Enigma. Of course, they are not exactly the same but they have a lot of similarities. Sandra's songs have the unique touch of Michael. So her music sounds quite different from other singers like Madonna, Kim Wilde, Janet Jackson, Maria Carey..etc. Sandra's music is truely unique and special like the way Enigma is. In her "Paintings in Yellow" album, check out the song called "The Journey" which is a one long song like Enigma. There are many others....... Peter C. Geisheker said, "There are other artists out there that are writing better music than Enigma..." I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHICH ONES????? Take me as a Enigma fanatic if you want, but I don't see anyone who writes better music than Michael Cretu in this new kind of music. He is simply the best. None of the groups we mentioned on EML, I repeat NONE, can be compared to Enigma. I have listened to them all. Enjoy listening to Enigma, the classic of our times....... Ye Min Than Internet ProLink PC User ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 23:04:03 -0500 From: EnigmaServ@aol.com Subject: Enigma in the news To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello everyone, Tonight on FOX's Houston news they were doing a piece on holistic medicine and all during the piece they played various parts of Enigma. I was impressed... they did a wonderful job. I have noticed that the news enjoy using Enigma quite often. I wonder if anyone else is seeing a lot of Enigma in their news? T. L. Rutter EnigmaServ@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:59:29 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Enya To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well I got Enya's cd Watermark today, and I find it different but at the same time quite a bit like Enigma, although If I wasn't told anything, I wouldn't associate it to be Ambient Music. What I would say is that it is is Enigma-like with the atmosphere of the music, but the instruments are deffinately different. At first listening, I found it to be a bit empty, but I found soon that If I close my eyes, it -really- enters me, Ambient Music is deffinately her style! It's almost more ambient then Enigma, although I still think Enigma is better :). With Enigma I don't like closing my eyes because the music makes me feel happy and makes me dance a bit. But With Enya, it's much more relaxing, a nice change for my ears. Just wondering what Deep Forest is like? is it more get up and go, or more Ambient like Enya. Well this was my first analogy, hope it was ok :) PS Nope not gonna put it this time ;) |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:48:43 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Without a doubt, Enigma triumphs over anything ENYA has done, although I love her music, too !! But Enigma has a quality about it that you will find NOWHERE else !!! When I listen to it, I feel as though I am in another world and away from everyone and everything. The music seems to have a strong power over me, and I really enjoy falling victim to it !!! ENIGMA RULES !!!! Brad Drake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:28:35 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 9 Nov 1995 bdrake@n1.globalvision.net wrote: > Without a doubt, Enigma triumphs over anything ENYA has done, although I love > her music, too !! But Enigma has a quality about it that you will find NOWHERE > else !!! When I listen to it, I feel as though I am in another world and away > from everyone and everything. The music seems to have a strong power over me, > and I really enjoy falling victim to it !!! > ENIGMA RULES !!!! > > Brad Drake > Right on Brad. You have got the right idea about Enya and Enigma. Although I would not object if Cretu got together with her to like do a song or something. Wouldn't that be really cool? Dinh Le ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:05:24 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Enya To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I would be the first in line at the Music store !!! Brad Drake ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:21:53 GMT From: curriva@ibm.net (Anthony Currivan) Subject: Enya's new single To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I just heard it the other night, it sounds alright but there seems to be something wrong with the way it. I can't say exactly what it is though.Has anyone else heard it ??? and what did you think ?? Oh yeah the single's called Anywhere is.. and is in the UK top 20 I think. See ya -Anthony > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:48:59 GMT From: Michael Subject: Enya's new single To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In your message dated Sunday 26, November 1995 you wrote : > > I just heard it the other night, it sounds alright but there seems to be > something > wrong with the way it. I can't say exactly what it is though.Has anyone else > heard it ??? and what did you think ?? > Oh yeah the single's called Anywhere is.. and is in the UK top 20 I think. > > See ya > -Anthony > > I've got the limited edition cd single and it sounds quite different from the standard enya songs, but is still enjoyable. But has anyone heard the whole album. Thanx, Mike. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reality Sux | | Imagination is the ultimate Reality | | | | Mike EMail Mike@cryo.demon.co.uk | | CryoNet Cooler than an penguin in a snowstorm | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:59:13 -0600 From: etix@hti.net (Jeff Tix) Subject: Enya's new single To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au At 09:21 11/26/95 GMT, Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au wrote: > >I just heard it the other night, it sounds alright but there seems to be >something >wrong with the way it. I can't say exactly what it is though.Has anyone else >heard it ??? and what did you think ?? >Oh yeah the single's called Anywhere is.. and is in the UK top 20 I think. > > See ya > -Anthony >> > > I just heard it yesterday myself. Let me obsolve myself up front: I place the first three CD's by Enya among my top 50 favorites out of a collection that contains over 1000 titles. But if this single is representative of the album, I'm afraid I will be disappointed. While listening to it, I was taken back to that horrid "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing" shlock. Remember the one that started off as a tacky Coke commercial, then became a full ...uh...song? What was missing? To me, it was that larger than life feeling that I get from her music...it just envelopes you. This song left me totally flat. Jeff Tix etix@hti.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:42:42 -0500 (EST) From: Khurram Nizami Subject: Enya's new single To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > While listening to it, I was taken back to that horrid "I'd Like To Teach > The World To Sing" shlock. Remember the one that started off as a tacky > Coke commercial, then became a full ...uh...song? > > What was missing? To me, it was that larger than life feeling that I get > from her music...it just envelopes you. This song left me totally flat. > > Jeff Tix > etix@hti.net > > I'd like to teach the world to sing is not a song from Coke. In fact, coke took that song and used it in there commercials. Don't you remember music class back in like 3rd or 4th grade? They taught everyone that song. Also, about Anywhere is, its different from her other songs but I like it. You have to listen to it more I guess. I'm a die hard enya fan tho. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:32:41 CST From: "Lucianus" Subject: Enya's new single--on the Enigma board? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Listen...I don't mind a comparison/contrast of Engima with other similar groups/artists. But this clutter of other artists is really starting to get to me. Let's stick to the topic of the board, OK!? sePh hYser "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." --Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 16:55 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Enya's new single--on the Enigma board? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've got to disagee with this, I myself -love- hearing new artists. We all have one thing in common right? we all love Enigma, that means that there is a good chance that if we talk about other Enigma like music (can't remember the latest, mood music?) some of us will enjoy it. Hey I never even heard of Enya before you guys started to talk about her, and now I -love- her! Same with Deep Forest. So IMHO, I think we should continue as we were with all. Maybe if this thread gets big we should have a vote? just an idea. cya >Listen...I don't mind a comparison/contrast of Engima with other >similar groups/artists. But this clutter of other artists is really >starting to get to me. Let's stick to the topic of the board, OK!? |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienKlaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia,"Maybe if I yawn long "enough, he'll stop trying "Life's no fair, but that's not gonna stop me" "to put this thing in my "mouth." "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:48:16 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Enya's new single--on the Enigma board? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hey guys and gals !!! I AGREE that we should continue to post messages on both ENIGMA AND ENIGMA-LIKE groups !!! I agree that no group can compare to ENIGMA !!!!! However, I am not restricting my tastes to just one group and neither are most of the others on this list !! ENIGMA IS OUR STANDARD !!! Any others are just "spin-offs" !! If it were not for this list, though, I would never have heard of DAO-DEZI, but when I saw it on here, I bought it and I am so glad that I did !!! Keep up the great posts guys !!!! *E*N*I*G*M*A****R*U*L*E*S****F*O*R*E*V*E*R***!*!*!*!*!*!*! bdrake@globalvision.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:29:27 -0700 (MST) From: Maryln Colton Subject: Enya's new single--on the Enigma board? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Tue, 28 Nov 1995 bdrake@n1.globalvision.net wrote: > Hey guys and gals !!! I AGREE that we should continue to post messages on both > ENIGMA AND ENIGMA-LIKE groups !!! I agree that no group can compare to ENIGMA > !!!!! However, I am not restricting my tastes to just one group and neither are > most of the others on this list !! ENIGMA IS OUR STANDARD !!! Any others are > just "spin-offs" !! > > If it were not for this list, though, I would never have heard of DAO-DEZI, but > when I saw it on here, I bought it and I am so glad that I did !!! Keep up the > great posts guys !!!! > > *E*N*I*G*M*A****R*U*L*E*S****F*O*R*E*V*E*R***!*!*!*!*!*!*! > > bdrake@globalvision.net > > Hey ya'll, I wuz just wonderin' where didya' find Dao-Dezi??????? I've been lookin' for it ever since I heard about it and I can't find it anywhere!!! HELP!!! signed Dazed and confused ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:52:32 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Enya's new single--on the Enigma board? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I found DAO-DEZI at BEST BUY !!! But if BEST BUY (an electronics store) has, I am sure that any self-respecting music store would have it also !! I think you will love it !! It reminds me alot of the Cross of Changes CD, but it is also alot different. Nothing compares to Enigma, though !!! Hope that helps....................................later ! Brad Drake bdrake@globalvision.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:16:19 -0800 (PST) From: Corey Daniel Leamon Subject: Enya and Banba To: Enigma mailing list Neil, The Enya album is indeed self-titled, but now it has been re-released as "The Celts" with new cover artwork and a re-mastered version of track 8 (Portrait). Also, about Banba, that is actually Enya's sister and her band, Clannad. Although not quite as good as Enya, I still really enjoy Clannad's music, Banba being an excellent album. Corey/Draven ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:33:49 +0500 From: bdrake@globalvision.net Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi! I have a couple of CD's by ENYA and I have found them both equally WONDERFUL music! But, if I HAD to choose, I think that I would choose her Shepherd Moons CD. She really shows the power of her voice in this CD, in my opinion!! Watermark is also very good, but between the two, SHEPHERD MOONS !!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:02:19 -0700 (MST) From: Tyler Thorsted Subject: Enya and more... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I really love enya also, but Personally I like the beat and rythmn of the enigma albums. They are much more soothing and relaxing to me. Later Tyler Thorsted On Mon, 6 Nov 1995 bdrake@globalvision.net wrote: > Hi! > > I have a couple of CD's by ENYA and I have found them both equally WONDERFUL > music! But, if I HAD to choose, I think that I would choose her Shepherd Moons > CD. She really shows the power of her voice in this CD, in my opinion!! > Watermark is also very good, but between the two, SHEPHERD MOONS !!!! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 20:46:28 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Forwarded Message To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Forwarded message: > It is a joy that this digest group has taken on a new direction again > relative to Enigma and like music! I usually lurk here to gain perspective > from other peoples views and ideas, so thank you all who post here, it is > great to read you!! :) > > My collection of Enigma and related music include MCMXC a.D., Cross of > Changes, the soundtrack to Strange Days(the movie) with Peter Gabriel and Deep > Forest(While the Earth Sleeps); Deep Forest(Coral Lounge), and Sandra, the > voice of Enigma:Close to Seven. I really enjoy MCMXC a.D. very much and have > been moved by that CD on a number of occaisions by the waxing and waning of > the sounds relative to love, passion, sex (yes sex), and compassion. > > Some of you may be interested to hear a band called Sky Cries Mary, This > Timeless Turning[1994]. They are a Seattle Washington band and this cd can be > ordered by request at your local record shops. If you enjoy Sky Cries Mary > and would like to email or contact them, you may do so at: > SCM PO Box 4753, Seattle Washington, 98104-0753 (email:toddr@halcyon.com) > The band has a very unique sound, and I think some of you may enjoy it > immensely. Band members include: Michael Cozzi(guitar and woodwork), > Bennett James Ireland(Drums and Percussion), Juano(Bass, Moog Taurus bass > pedals, Gordon Raphael (vox organ, ASR 10 sampler, JD-990, Arp oddyssey, Moog > source, Micro moog, Pro-one sunthesizer, S.G. Les Paul and Stratocaster > guitars and sequencing), Todd Robbins (Sampler, Truntables, OSC deck, TR 909, > TB 303 & vocoder), Anisa E.L.W. Romero (Vocals and Harmonium), Roderick J. > Wolgamott Romero (vocals and words & one note Solina). > Guest Musicians include: > Robin Boomer (Cello), Larry Halpern (soprano sax and flute), Serge > (Didgeridoo). It was produced by Ian Caple & Sky Cries Mary in Feb of 1994. > This CD sounds BEST when listening with headphones on, so that you may hear > ALL of the interesting sounds that were produced for our listening pleasures! > Both Enigma and SCM are AURAL ORGASM to me! > (Other bands i enjoy are: Shamen[EnTact], The Cure[Fascination Street, > Pictures of You], Depeche Mode, KFMDM[Godlike], Lords of Acid[Lust], > Scorn[Ellipsis, very good], Morphine[Yes, Good], Catherine Wheel[Happy Days, > Chrome], Erasure, Neitzer Ebb, Innocence Mission[single, Bright as Yellow] > ....to name a few.) > > If any of you do in fact buy this CD(Sky Cries Mary, (This Timeless Turning) > and like it let me know! This group, as well as Emigma, > appear to be rather esoteric to me. I would enjoy hearing from folks > who know of and enjoy SCM! > > In addition, I think it is great to hear from Peter on this newsgroup! We > are indeed fortunate to have him here conversing with us on the Enigma > Digest. I would like to thank Gavin for his fine efforts in the > workings of the group! > > I also am a staff writer for concert reviews and such > for the Voodoo Highway(alt.music review rag) out of > Miami Florida. You may request information about the Voodoo Highway at: > vhwy@gate.net. They are looking for relevant rants, music information and > such. If you have anything you would like published in the Voodoo Highway > relative to life and music, you may contact the Editor at that email address. > It is published monthly and is in Michigan, the UK and the Southeast US. > > One quick note to Peter Geisheker............. > Peter, I teach Biology/Ecology at Western Michigan University. > I would like to get a sample of your music. > Let me know what you think about me purchasing your > sample cassette if I forward you a couple bucks for it. I got your address > off of another post. Let me know. If I don't hear from you I will mail you. > sincerely > one love > peace > Kim Alexander > email: alexanderk@wmich.edu > alexande@lab.cc.wmich.edu (i prefer personal mail here.) > 800alexande1@wmich.edu > > Western Michigan University > Dept. of Biological Sciences > Kalamazoo, Michigan > (the views expressed here are only my own and do not reflect those of WMU) > > "Time is nature's way to ensure that things don't happen all at once." > --Anon. > [Gavin, keep up the good work sweets!] > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:04:07 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Forwarded message To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Just to balance the opinions; I have "Flowers Become Screens" by > > Delerium and i find it extremely bland. It's more "soul" than > > "enigma-like" IMHO. > > In defense (since I love "Semantic Spaces" so much!) you will find that the > single you mention does NOT have the album version of "Flowers Become Screens" > and that it is just one of many tracks on the album - some of which differ in > more ways than others..... We trust you Gavin! In fact, I was just out at Media Play the other day looking for this very album that you've been recommending. Unfortunately, I could not find ANYTHING by the group Delerium in there. I was disappointed, so I picked up a copy of MCMXC A.D. and Deep Forest to compensate (oh, and the Star Wars wide-screen box set :-) Oh...now that I've finally quit lurking, I guess I have to do that introduction thing. My name's Ian Mercado, I live in Atlanta, GA and live a fairly normal life...work as a software developer...live in a normal home with a wonderful wife of four years and our first child on the way. I was turned onto Enigma after borrowing both CDs from a co-worker and just loving them. Any music that can raise goose bumps all over my body like Enigma does is right for me! Previously, Moodswings was my favorite album, but now they're all my favorites. Other strongholds in my CD collection include: Alan Parsons Project, Jean-Michel Jarre, Narada Sampler CDs, Pink Floyd, and various classical bits (Strauss waltzes and Hungarian dances tending to be my favorites). I also foresee a big Yanni collection developing as I've just been turned onto him after watching the video and buying the CD Live at the Acropolis and listening to Dare to Dream (both EXCELLENT albums, IMHO). Anyway, now that I'm out in the open, guess I'll have to post a bit more often . Peace and Love to All! Ian (Nice_Guy) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:08:28 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Forwarded Message To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Nothing to do with enigma but I thought you might enjoy. Pete Geisheker DEEP THOUGHT OF THE DAY Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition. - Jack Handy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:45:46 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: Forwarded Message To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Pete Wrote: >Nothing to do with enigma but I thought you might enjoy. > >Pete Geisheker > DEEP THOUGHT OF THE DAY > Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can > bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has > little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it > could be like ambition. > - Jack Handy Hello Pete, Say What????????????????????:):):):):):) I don't get it??????? Luv, *Rachelle Hambliln* Smiles!!!!!! > > > ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:27:27 -0500 (EST) From: Ronald Birnbaum Subject: Free Enigma cd-rom To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Attention Enigmatics, Toyota USA has a promotional cd-rom for their cars and trucks. The background music is enigma, or a very good copycat. Call toyota at 1-800-GO-TOYOTA for a free copy of their cd-rom. Tell them you saw the ad in Scientific American and your cd-rom should arrive in a few days. - RB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:36:03 -0500 From: EnigmaServ@aol.com Subject: Free Enigma cd-rom To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In a message dated 95-11-08 11:19:42 EST, you write: > Toyota USA has a promotional cd-rom for their cars and trucks. >The background music is enigma, or a very good copycat. Call toyota >at 1-800-GO-TOYOTA for a free copy of their cd-rom. Tell them you saw >the ad in Scientific American and your cd-rom should arrive in a few days. > > - RB Folks, just called them up 11/8/95 1:34pm Eastern time and told them the above... they said that they have had an overwhelming response for the CD-ROM and it will be on backorder... so a few weeks. Thanks Ronald and Enigma Mailing list for bringing this to our attention. Carry on. T. L. Rutter EnigmaServ@ao.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:17 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Free Enigma cd-rom To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >In a message dated 95-11-08 11:19:42 EST, you write: > >> Toyota USA has a promotional cd-rom for their cars and trucks. >>The background music is enigma, or a very good copycat. Call toyota >>at 1-800-GO-TOYOTA for a free copy of their cd-rom. Tell them you saw >>the ad in Scientific American and your cd-rom should arrive in a few days. >> Just tried that myself from Canada, I'm not sure what happened, they said that for information on Dealers, to call a 1 800 in Canada, would this still be valid for the cd-rom? Thanx for the info, can anyone help? |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:31:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: French or Spanish ? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello Gavin >From: Enigmatic >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:52:50 +1100 (EST) >Subject: Re: Enigma > >Hi. Someone wrote: >>> Cretu was living in France at the time he produce his first Enigma >>>album. >My information states that Michael Cretu was living in Ibiza, Spain >(wherehis studio is) when he made the first Enigma album. Can you tell me >where you got this information from? > >Gavin Stok(Enigma Mailing List President) > I read somewhere that he was living in France and move to Spain for fiscal reason. I don't know if it's true or not. _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 13:23:12 +0100 From: Sven Puklowski Subject: FS: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hiho ! I have some Stuff Sandra for sale/trade On Vinyl : Midnight Man Extended Version 5:26 Mirror of Love 4:13 Stop for a Minute Extended Version 6:19 Two lovers tonight 3:45 Single Version 4:05 Everlasting Love Extended Version 7:27 Change your mind 4:04 Everlasting Love 3:49 Everlasting Love (UK Import) Everlasting Love Remix 7:40 Everlasting Love Dub 6:57 Stop for a Minute 3:51 Maria Magdalena Extended Version 7:13 Party Games 3:25 In the Heat of the Night Extended Version 7:32 Heatwave (instrumental) ON CD ----------- Hiroshima Single Version 4:11 Extended Version 6:44 Dub Mix 3:08 Heaven can wait (US Remix) 7:11 (Life may be) a big Insantiy Radio Edit 4:29 Club Mix 6:12 Dance Mix 6:39 Dub Mix 2:33 The Skin Im in 3:40 One more Night Single Version 3:41 The Journey (Album Version) 7:27 Extended Version 5:08 I need Love Radio Edit 3:18 Trance Tecno Mix 5:58 Shadows 3:50 And the Videos : Ten on one (the Singles) (PAL) + interview etc.... 18 Greatest Hits (PAL) + a Special Cassette Sandra in German Shows..... All together $ 50 !!! Byeeeee Sven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:24:11 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: FW: The Voice & The Snake (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Forwarded Message: > > I really don't think "The Voice & The Snake" is music at all. I find > it > > to be a complete waste of 1:39 of CD space. That part of the CD could > > have been put to a much better use with another good song instead of > the > > garbage being played. I feel that that song, if you can call it that, > > really ruined the beautiful flow of music that was occuring. Luckily, > > Cretu didn't put us through it again on "The Cross of Change" CD. > > Just to have a different opinion, I find that "The Voice of The Snake" > fits in perfectly with the CD. Not only does it flow well with the > "judgement day" feel, but it also provides a nice contrast to the rest of > the album which makes one feel glad when the music returns back to it's > peaceful ways. > > Personally, I like hearing it because it reminds me of all the suffering > that I WON'T have to go through when the time comes. > > Ian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:23:11 -0500 From: GolferDude@aol.com Subject: Getting Off the Subject To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au A few people have wondered how much we should stray from the topic of Enigma, whether or not we should accept discussions of Enya, for example. Personally, I have been enriched by the music I have recently purchased as a result of the references to "Enigma-like" music on this list. Examples: Deep Forest, Delerium ("Semantic Spaces"), B-Tribe, Sacred Spirits. I discovered Enigma myself and that's why I joined this list. But I've come away with much more! BTW, a belated THANKS to all of you out there who have contributed!!!! As far as other groups go, I think a few references are fine, within reason. I love Enya and can't wait until the new CD is released ("Memories of Trees"?), but since her music is not quite so "Enigma-like", perhaps we shouldn't go on and on about her. On the other hand, we've had to put up with the "kooky kids" from AHA and whatever other cross-posting we were subjected to. We put up with the rantings and ravings of "Krazy Kevin". And I'm sure all of us can't wait until those messages finally get delivered to "CyberDen"!!!!!! So, I don't mind so much the occasional references to other groups. It's better than some of the stuff we have to read! - Bob (GolferDude) P.S. For weeks I had been searching the music stores for Sandra Cretu. And then I found out that she's known only as "Sandra" in the states! Back to the stores I went. Found an empty bin where Sandra's CDs used to be! Sob!!! Finally was able to order "18 Greatest Hits" and am eagerly awaiting its arrival! :) :) :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 01:23:57 GMT From: curriva@ibm.net Subject: Hello...I'm new To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Right, I just joined the mailing list, so as requested here's a little about myself : My name is Anthony Currivan, I'm 18, I live in Ireland and I'm a trainee Aircraft Mechanic. I used to have all the enigma albums and singles but they were all stolen about 3 months ago so Ijust have my cassette copies now. I first heard enigma when Sadeness part 1 (under the title Sadness part 1) was released over here.My favourite tracks are Principles of Lust and Return to Innocence. As far as other music is concerned I listen to alot of mainstream music. And finally I don't know if this has been discussed already but the Computer game Lost Eden from Cryo has an excellent soundtrack which in parts sounds a little bit like Enigma or Deep Forest. The game itself though is crap ! Well I think thats enough so I'll say goodbye for now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:25:08 -0600 (CST) From: Christian Saborio Subject: Here's the truth To: Ye Min Than I'm getting a little bit tired of openning messages that tell about the bands that sound like Enigma, I mean it's all right every once in a while, but this is gettting like a kind of contest on who can come with the band that sounds the most like Enigma. Let's try something different. I've been on this listserve for about two weeks and I haven't read one single message that tells about what Enigma means to you guys. I'm not looking for commentaries like "Enigma rules!" or "Never mind the mainstream, we are different". Speak up, tell us what Enigma does for you. English is not my native language, but I'll try to start with what I want to listen from now on...for a change. I'm from Costa Rica, Central America if you wondered. I love listening to that music because it gets me in a mood like no other band does. It takes me high, it's erotic and I find it mysteriously sexy. Every single second makes me want to give myself to the loved one, to have sex forver. Don't think of me as a pervert or anything like that, but I just want to let it flow, no emotions barred, because that is what Enigma is all about. Some other songs just make me want to think...think about what is unknown to me, think of what the songs stand for. It is pretty weird, because no matter how many times I listen to that precious music, I just find different and more profound meanings every time...now that is music! sabor@ksu.ksu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:53:35 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: I'm a newbie to the list... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au As I said, I am a newbie to this mailing list, but I am familiar with it's content. It is so reassuring to know that there are other people in this world that feel the same as I do concerning my beliefs, etc... It's like being in a room full of friends! Well, anyway, enuff of the corny introduction!! My name is Brad Drake. My groups are: Enigma Delerium Deep Forest Dead Can Dance Enya Eurythmics :) (oldies but goodies !!) Kate Bush :) (ditto) B-Tribe Well, gotta go !! Talk to you guys later !! bdrake@globalvision.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:55:09 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: I/ve got a great story for you! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au When my dad was a kid he went to private Catholic military school and was awoken every morning at about 4:00 am by chanting monks. He could hear the monks chanting in the underground tunnels that connected the church to the dorms. The chanting kept getting closer and closer until.... Enigma reminds my father of this frightening experience. (And you thought I was just teasing when I said I would post this message everyday to remind you of the horror I go through everytime my father tells me this boring story) The always charming yet very twisted Pete Geisheker You can stop the evil Pete Geisheker by sending him lots of money in large, marked bills. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 12:49:12 -0600 From: jpena@raven.benedictine.edu (JoAnna =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pe=F1a?= ) Subject: Ice Wars To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi everyone. I don't if you all like to watch Ice skating, but last night was the Ice Wars between the US and The World. Well, one of the skating routines was Sadness Part I by Enigma. It was performed by Oskana (figure Skater). It very good. She put a lot of emotion into her routine. Unfortuantly the World didn't win. She fell during her routine. Well, Just thought you guys would like to know. BYE!! JoAnna ********************************** "For the record we never broke up we just took a 14 year vacation." -Eagles ********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:20:28 -0400 (AST) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Ice Wars To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Hi everyone. > I don't if you all like to watch Ice skating, but last night was > the Ice Wars between the US and The World. Well, one of the skating > routines was Sadness Part I by Enigma. It was performed by Oskana (figure > Skater). It very good. She put a lot of emotion into her routine. > Unfortuantly the World didn't win. She fell during her routine. Well, > Just thought you guys would like to know. BYE!! > > JoAnna I watched it :) I thought I recognised the music but I could quite place it...I must have been really tired not to have realized it was Engima :) Thanks for pointing this out :) Karen Sullivan | "Inside every small problem... IRC - Lupins | is a large problem struggling to get out" R7NM@UNB.CA | - unknown ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:25:30 CST From: "Lucianus" Subject: Intro To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello-- I just signed on tonight, so I'll do the intro thing, since I'm awake. My name is Joseph Hyser, but PLEASE call me Seph, or even better sePh. I am an 18 year old freshman at a small liberal arts college in the mid-west(Rock Island, IL to be exact). I first heard Enigma through the radio, or a friend...I don't really remember. The song was "Sadness (part one)". I was struck by the beauty, seduction, and mystery(enigma--no pun intended) of the music. My collection contains both albums, and a single of "Carlie's Song". I consider myself a pretty big fan, though I havn't had the oppurtunity to see a concert...I would in a second!!! Other music intrests...well I love classical music, it is calming. Jazz and Swing are good. As for more modern...some Enigma-like groups that I am a fan of is: Well of corse there is Dead Can Dance, my absolute favorite. If anyone hasn't checked out this group, DO IT!!! A group called Enchanted is also good, but I only have one disc. On the more gothic side, a group by the name of Will is also very good. Gregorian chants are very nice also. Enya and Clannid are good, too. As for more alt. rock. I love NIN, Afgan Wigs, REM, Violent Fems...and a meriod of others. My intrests are widespread. I love literature and philosphy--especially existentialists. I write poetry, plays, stories, and would like to undertake a novel soon. I am majoring in biology, and plan on pursuing genetics. My goals for that are to work on the human genome project, be at the forefront of cloning(whatever ethical path it takes), and I will be the man to create a cure to HIV. It does sound arrogant, I'll admit. But I think that my generation is becoming to passive with this relativistic attitude, and I am going to do something difficult; yet damn impressive. I am a fairly agressive person, but I have genuine kindness that surprises many people. I feel that a good motto for life is "why can't people just be nice..." but even I have a hard time living by it all of the time. I have a simple view of living...it is a blissful tragidy. Humanity simply lives, and we should all just try to be who we want to be in our hearts, instead of who we feel we should be. And I think that Enigma's music provides messages according. I am glad to be a part of this group...good night! sePh "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." --Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:13:44 -0330 (NST) From: Taryn Annette Stone Subject: Introduction To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, my name is Taryn Stone and I am 22 years old. I have been suscribing to this list now fora couple of weeks. I am a Marine Institute student in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada and I am taking my Dual Certification in Nautical Science and Marine Engineering. I'll be a qualified mate as well as engineer when I finish. It is now my fifth year with two more to go. So basically I go to sea and I love it. My collection is not very extensive. I love Sadness Part I and Return To Innocence. I take them out on ship with me and they are very relaxing and enjoyable to listen to. My other musical interests include Dance, Marches, Rock, Big Band, Jazz, Classical and just about everything else except country because of the twang in the guitar, your wife leaving, your dog dying, and losing your job. I think that just about covers everything! Taryn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 01:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Irc? To: enigma When is the next IRC chat session happening? Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:21 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Irc? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au IRC chat starts at 8:00 EST and goes until everyone leaves, or bout 9:00 EST if no one if there. If you need more info email me |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 09:07:51 -0500 From: GolferDude@aol.com Subject: John Barry To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > I recommended everyone to listen >to John Barry's "Indecent Proposal" if they get the chance. His score to this >movie (yes THAT movie with the million dollar SEX question!) is some of the >best music of all time - it stirs emotions! If you like the quieter tracks of >Enigma, you'll LOVE this score. >Cheers, >Gavin Stok Better yet, for an incredible emoting experience, listen to the soundtrack for "Somewhere in Time" by John Barry. The music is fantastic!! The film was a bittersweet romance with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour. If you rent the video, keep your hankies handy! Another recommend (as long as you brought up "sex", Gavin) is the Soundtrack for "Body Heat" (William Hurt, Kathleen Turner) also by John Barry. Or ... if you want to flavor the best of the mellow side of John Barry, get his CD called "Moviola" (includes hit themes from many of his film scores). Another CD just out is "Moviola II", which is the energetic side of his movie compositions, including most of the James Bond movie scores, "The Specialist", etc. BTW, for all you Yankees out there, "Indecent Proposal" is being broadcast on ABC this coming Sunday, November 12. - From the musical golfer (GolferDude) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 22:53:14 -0400 (AST) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Just a silly question... To: Enigma List Hello All :) I was recently in a music store...Radio Land i think it was...anyways as usual I went to see if by some weird chance they had any of the singles in stock...well...in the Enigma slot there was Cross of Changes and someone called Michael English? When I first saw it I thought it was Michael Cretu...are they the same or is English just after Enigma in alphabetical order?? Karen Sullivan | "Inside every small problem... IRC - Lupins | is a large problem struggling to get out" R7NM@UNB.CA | - unknown ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "S. Jeffrey" Subject: Just a silly question... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Nope..English is that Contemp. Christian artist who was pretty much banned from the Contemp. Christian "world" for having an affair with another music star. Now he's trying to get into the pop area, but I don't think he'll get very far. Nothing like Enigma whatsoever. Zok jeffrey2@muvms6.mu.wvnet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:32:12 -0500 From: zzhughesb@acad.winthrop.edu Subject: Just a silly question... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Michael English is a contemporary Christian singer...it was obviously in the wrong place... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:33:24 -0500 From: zzhughesb@acad.winthrop.edu Subject: Just a silly question... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Actually Michael English had an affair with a member of the Christian group First Call- I wouldn't say she was a music star... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 21:15:55 From: PTellman@gnn.com (Steven Tellman) Subject: Limited Edition To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I got the Limited Edition MCMXC a.D. album at Blockbuster Music in Seattle a couple of days ago. I also picked up the Return to Innocence single too. The Limited is not the hologram :( but it will do. Does anyone know where I can get sound files of Enigma?? Thanx. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:13:42 -0800 (PST) From: Corey Daniel Leamon Subject: Limited Edition To: Enigma mailing list I've noticed a lot of talk about the limited edition Enigma CD. I just had to share my happiness with the list by telling everyone that I got it today, in fact I am listening to the remix of Sadeness right now. Those four remixes are awesome, but I have to warn you, this CD is an import and I got it at Blockbuster for 27.99! But it is well worth it. By the way, I know someone on the list said that they got their's at a Blockbuster music in Santa Cruz, well, I did also and I just wanted to say, was up in Santa Cruz! Corey/Draven ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 16:39:23 EST From: PoohChic@intermac.com Subject: Limited Edition To: draven@cats.ucsc.edu (Corey Daniel Leamon) Cool, they only had one left when I got mine... **************************Sent from NiteLife BBS************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:47:19 +0100 From: ymthan@iprolink.ch (Ye Min Than) Subject: Limited Edition To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi... I am looking for the Limited Edition of "Cross of Changes" album. Can anyone inform me where can I get it??? Still available??? In fact, I am ready to pay anything for it.....Thanks!!!! Ye Min Than Internet ProLink PC User ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:19:00 +0100 From: e4068@iut-orsay.fr (ONETO Vincent TP231) Subject: Looking for DP copies on tape To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi there, I often heard about Deep Forest in this mailing list. Of course, I know who they are, and some of their titles, but now I'd like to get their 2 CDs on tape. Could someone in France (or Europe btw) copy them for me ? Of course, I'll supply tapes and postage fees... Please mail me directly. Thanx in advance :) Yours, Vincent Oneto e4068@iut-orsay.fr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:39:49 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Echols Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Does anyone know where there is a complete listing of the lyrics from the two Enigma Albums? I am looking for a listing that not only has the English lyrics, but also a translation of the Latin, French, etc. Am I dreaming? Thanks for the help, - Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:29:24 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Does anyone know where there is a complete listing of the lyrics from the >two Enigma Albums? I am looking for a listing that not only has the >English lyrics, but also a translation of the Latin, French, etc. > >Am I dreaming? > >Thanks for the help, > >- Jason I got the lyrics to Cross Of Changes, Sadeness, and Mea Culpa from the Enigma Web Site. //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- Jeffry McGee mcgee@redshift.com ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:51:59 -0500 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The translated lyrics to Sadeness and Mea Culpa can be found on the Enigma homepage. The CROSS of Changes lyrics are printed in the CD booklet. You might also try finding the book of sheet music to MCMXC a. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:50:57 +0200 (EET) From: Joakim Guy Calais Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au As for the question, where the lyrics to Enigma's music can be found, for the 'Cross of changes' album I would advise you to review the tiny pamphlet that came with the cd (the cover, you know?)... At least mine contains the lyrics to all of the songs as far as I can see. As for MCMXC.. I have the lyrics to Mea Culpa and Sadeness. And the lyrics for 'the voice and the snake' should not be difficult to pick out from the piece all by yourself... First ball on the earth The second ball on the sea The third ball on the rivers The fourth ball on the sun The fith ball on the beast The sixth ball on the stars The seventh ball on the air The earth turned gray The sea turned black The rivers turned red The sun turned cold The beat turned pale The stars turned fast The air turned to poison As I am not that familiar with ockultism, I can not be sure whether they say 'fall' or 'ball' in the first verse... Or perhaps something entirely different. But... perhaps someone could clarify this for me? Well, enough for one day. See you around! -Joakim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 18:05:19 +0100 From: perta@oslonett.no (Per Terje Aune) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >As I am not that familiar with ockultism, I can not be sure whether they >say 'fall' or 'ball' in the first verse... Or perhaps something entirely >different. But... perhaps someone could clarify this for me? Hi, I got curious when reading this and checked my english translation of the new testament. Here I found that word is 'bowl' and apparently there were seven angels, each with one bowl, who were to pour out these bowls of God's wrath. Probably during the end of the world. Just for curiousity... From: Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:44:37 +0200 (EET) From: Joakim Guy Calais Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, Per Terje > I got curious when reading this and checked my english translation >of the new testament. Here I found that word is 'bowl' and apparently there Thanks... that sounds very interesting... hmmm, maybe I should read the newtestament... just out of interest... I am not very religious and thus, I have never taken the time to explore the wonders of the Book... perhaps one day I will find time for it? Oh... just the other day... I borrowed (read dubbed) some songs out of MCMXC for a good friend of mine... Today, when I met her in the hallway... she said that Mozart's 40th symphony (first on the tape) was awesome, but the rest... (Enigma) with the 'monks singing'... was horrible. She said it really scared her... She didn't like listening to it because she was so scared of it. I must've looked very disappointed (Enigma is the only 'band' in the world that I really dig deeply), so she immediately apologied for saying so... I toldher it was ok and that she should erase it if she couldn't listen to it. Now, I was wondering... it's quite obvious that 'the voice and the snake' is pretty frightening, but the others?... Sort of maybe. It's very mystic and it sounds kind of scary when you think about it. It has a different impact on me though... I love it... I really do. Couldn't live long without listening to it. Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? -Joakim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:44:15 +0500 From: sb7421@acs.brockport.edu (Stephen Buck) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi everyone!! sorry about the long quote, but if you missed the message On Thu, 9 Nov 1995 at 13:44:37 Joakim Guy Calais wrote: >horrible. She said it really scared her... She didn't like listening to >it because she was so scared of it. I must've looked very disappointed >(Enigma is the only 'band' in the world that I really dig deeply), so she >immediately apologied for saying so... I toldher it was ok and that she >should erase it if she couldn't listen to it. Now, I was wondering... >it's quite obvious that 'the voice and the snake' is pretty frightening, >but the others?... Sort of maybe. It's very mystic and it sounds kind of >scary when you think about it. It has a different impact on me though... >I love it... I really do. Couldn't live long without listening to it. > >Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? > >-Joakim > > Joakim, I noticed the same response from a lot of people that I've introduced to the music also. I don't think (this is my theory anyway) that the music itself is scaring them...meaning that it isn't brining on a feeling of imminent danger or harm. Instead, the music brings back a memory or a thought that they found someone frightening, whatever it may be. I noticed from my own experiences of listening to it that I found peace, and rest. Not so much joy (I think that it could be found), but more a feeling of long lasting somnelence with myself. Which once I took it upon myself to look beyond the superficial level of these initial feeling, I could see it as a joyous revelation to my inner most self. I think that the music may scare some because they are afraid to look within themself and see what they are really like, they don't really want to know. I found out that this was a very painful thing to do (it took more than just sitting down and listening to Enigma). I have a feeling the monks with the voice of Sandra in the background is such a sacred thing, not desecrate as I have heard some people call it. I see it as the beautiful emminence from our physical world (Sandra) being mixed with the beautiful emminence of God's choosen (the monks). It is a relationship that would open the a larger part of the mind than either of the two alone...thus allowing more capacity for reflection on an individual's interaction between the two areas in life, that most would prefer not to think of together, if they dare think of the religious inquisitions in their mind at all. However, not everyone sees this the same way that I do...I have a good friend that is a priest. While driving somewhere Enigma came on (I had a mix tape in and I believe that it played all three parts of "The Principles of Lust" and then "The Rivers of Belief"). He felt that "The Rivers of Belief" was an outstanding song (which I'd have to agree, it is one of my favorites), however he didn't seem to like "The Principles of Lust" quite so much. He didn't give a definite reason for it, but I have the feeling he is the opposite case of most (not all, and probably far from it) of the people who are scared by it...he sees God's love in every part of the world, he can relate to the same message that I see just with the monks, he doesn't see the physical need that most people do see, nor is there the balance...just his love and faith. That's my two cents... __________________________________________________________________ | | | |Steve Buck | | | | | | | | | | | |http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~sb7421/ | Live for today, | | | pray for tomorrow... | | | | |________________oOOo_ . ._oOOo_______|____o00o_(.) (.)_o00o______| | ~ \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:44:26 -0400 (AST) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > music also. I don't think (this is my theory anyway) that the music itself > is scaring them...meaning that it isn't brining on a feeling of imminent > danger or harm. Instead, the music brings back a memory or a thought that > they found someone frightening, whatever it may be. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with this...I feel like I'm in danger...like something is hunting me when I listen to "The voice and the Snake", but then again I can't watch YTV's "are you afraid of the dark?" either...I'm a scaredy cat :) Karen :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:39:01 -0400 (AST) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello... > it's quite obvious that 'the voice and the snake' is pretty frightening, > Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? I would have to agree that "the voice and the snake" is REALLY scary...I can't listen to it at night... (but then again I'm scared of the dark...I'm 18 and still sleep with a night light) but the other stuff i find isn't that bad as long as you haven't been watching any scary movies :) It's only really 1990ad that can sound scary in my oppinion...."Cross of Changes" isn't bad at all.... Karen Sullivan - R7NM@unb.ca Lupins on IRC - Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada... ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Quarks. Neutrinos. Mesons. All those damn Particles you can't see. *That's* what drove me to drink. But *now* I *can* see them!" Sidney Harris 1990 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 20:27:43 -0500 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hello... > >> it's quite obvious that 'the voice and the snake' is pretty frightening, > >> Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? > >I would have to agree that "the voice and the snake" is REALLY scary...I >can't listen to it at night... (but then again I'm scared of the >dark...I'm 18 and still sleep with a night light) but the other stuff i >find isn't that bad as long as you haven't been watching any scary movies >:) It's only really 1990ad that can sound scary in my oppinion...."Cross >of Changes" isn't bad at all.... > > >Karen Sullivan - R7NM@unb.ca >Lupins on IRC - Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada... >------------------------------------------------------------------- >"Quarks. Neutrinos. Mesons. All those damn Particles you can't see. >*That's* what drove me to drink. But *now* I *can* see them!" > Sidney Harris 1990 > > > >Heheh...trywatching the seventh sign, then listen to some of the MCMXC A.D. tracks....if that doesn't bug you, nothing will. Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 19:49:59 -0700 From: ssschool@ccinet.ab.ca (Paul R.) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >However, not everyone sees this the same way that I do...I have a good >friend that is a priest. While driving somewhere Enigma came on (I had a >mix tape in and I believe that it played all three parts of "The Principles >of Lust" and then "The Rivers of Belief"). He felt that "The Rivers of >Belief" was an outstanding song (which I'd have to agree, it is one of my >favorites), however he didn't seem to like "The Principles of Lust" quite so >much. He didn't give a definite reason for it, but I have the feeling he is >the opposite case of most (not all, and probably far from it) of the people >who are scared by it...he sees God's love in every part of the world, he can >relate to the same message that I see just with the monks, he doesn't see >the physical need that most people do see, nor is there the >balance...just his love and faith. > >That's my two cents... If your friend is extremely christianic (religious) then I can see where he is comming from. If you look closely at the storyline of MCMXC a.d. it basically follows the book of revelations pretty close (so I've been told). It starts by describing the seven deadly sins, going into detail on lust in "Principles of Lust". Then it describes "Judgement day" in "The Voice and the Snake" and finally brings you back through heaven's door and back to the rivers of belief. (Quite a journey for one CD) So this explains why he might like the Rivers of Belief because it is on the "Good side of god" where the "Principles of lust" is describing something bad in his mind. I'm not saying I know how this guy thinks, but it might explain why he didn't like one of the Enigma songs. Anyway, this is the first time I have ever posted to a mailing list (Thank you, thank you... :-) so I guess I should do the introduction thang...(I ment to mispell it) My name is Paul Roffel and I am a 20 year old "Computer Programmer to be" from Grand Prairie, Alberta, CANADA!!! (Yes we are still only one country :-) I never knew about Enigma until about six months ago when a co-worker and I were listening to some music and he flipped a tape over. On the back was something I had never heard before but something I fell in love with instantly (I think it was Mea Cula playing). I asked him what it was and within 2 days I owned MCMXC a.d. and the Cross of Changes (and I never looked back). After listening to both CD's I became an almost instant fanatic, they have been my favorite group ever since. I have also been online for more than a year now (don't worry about the e-mail address, I know it says "School" but it is because my dad is a teacher and I am too broke to buy my own connection) and I discovered the Enigma mailing list about a month ago, I have been lurking around since then (I know...bad me) but never had anything constructive to add to the conversation.......until now. Anyway as for Mr. Joakim, who wrote: >Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? I am inclined to agree with Steve Buck who said it opens the mind and makes you reflect on who you really are. Although I have not had any really moving experiences with the music I do find that after a long day at work, to come home with a glass of ice-tea (awsome stuff) in hand and Enigma in the background, you can feel the tension flowing out of you. But some people do not like to have an open mind because they are scared of what they might find. So I guess you could say "Yes Enigma is Scary music to some people" but to me it is an incredible experience to behold. So anyway (I do like that word, don't I) I am rambling so I must leave. As for now, Live long and prosper - Spock. _______ |_______| |aul Roffel Canada Bill Jones' Motto: It's morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:03:39 +0500 From: sb7421@acs.brockport.edu (Stephen Buck) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I'm sorry but I have to disagree with this...I feel like I'm in >danger...like something is hunting me when I listen to "The voice and the >Snake", but then again I can't watch YTV's "are you afraid of the dark?" >either...I'm a scaredy cat :) > >Karen :) > > Don't fret...I'll protect you!! :-} Like I said its only my theory and what effect the music has on me... __________________________________________________________________ | | | |Steve Buck | | | | | | | | | | | |http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~sb7421/ | Live for today, | | | pray for tomorrow... | | | | |________________oOOo_ . ._oOOo_______|____o00o_(.) (.)_o00o______| | ~ \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:58:20 +0100 (MET) From: abbe@tripnet.se (Alberth Johansson) Subject: lyrics To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hello, Per Terje >Oh... just the other day... I borrowed (read dubbed) some songs out of >MCMXC for a good friend of mine... Today, when I met her in the >hallway... she said that Mozart's 40th symphony (first on the tape) was >awesome, but the rest... (Enigma) with the 'monks singing'... was >horrible. She said it really scared her... She didn't like listening to [...] >but the others?... Sort of maybe. It's very mystic and it sounds kind of >scary when you think about it. It has a different impact on me though... Well, I have a friend and she thinks it is kind of scary too. She thinks it's some kind of 'voodoomusic'. (That's waht she said, anyway) Of course I understand what she means but... >I love it... I really do. Couldn't live long without listening to it. Me too. It's great! >Anyway... tell me what you think about it... is Enigma really scary music? Perhaps for some people... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:14:28 -0700 (MST) From: "" Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, just a quick question about the Limited Edition of MXMCX a.D. What are the extra tracks on it, and what versions of Mea Culpa are on it? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:03:47 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Hi, just a quick question about the Limited Edition of MXMCX a.D. > What are the extra tracks on it, and what versions of Mea Culpa are on it? Sadness (Meditation) Mea Culpa (Fading Shades) Principles of Lust (Everlasting Lust) The Rivers of Belief (The Returning Silence) Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 01:24:07 GMT From: Michael Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Looking at the track listing for the MCMXC a.d. cd there are ten tracks listed but on my cd player there are fifteen tracks listed ?????? Can anyone tell me if this is the same on all the limited edition's. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reality Sux | | Imagination is the ultimate Reality | | | | Mike EMail Mike@cryo.demon.co.uk | | CryoNet Cooler than an penguin in a snowstorm | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:24:29 PST From: "Bert Lo" Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au --Boundary-14465040-0-0 The discrepancy arises becauses the suites (eg. Sadeness I / Principles Of Lust / Sadeness II) are listed as 1 on the booklet but account for 3 (or whatever) tracks on the CD itself. = Bert S.F. Lo ============================================================== Office : 4OP6 #651 Oracle Corporation Phone : 800 392 2999 X2314 400 Oracle Parkway Fax : 415 506 7222 P.O. Box 659406 Internet : blo@us.oracle.com Redwood Shores CA 94065 ============================================================================= --Boundary-14465040-0-0 X-Orcl-Content-Type: message/rfc822 Sent: 06 Nov 1995 18:06:04 From:"Michael " To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing Reply-to: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au X-Orcl-Application: X-Mailer: FIMail V0.8b X-Orcl-Application: Lines: 13 X-Orcl-Application: Sender: owner-enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au X-Orcl-Application: Precedence: bulk Looking at the track listing for the MCMXC a.d. cd there are ten tracks listed but on my cd player there are fifteen tracks listed ?????? Can anyone tell me if this is the same on all the limited edition's. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reality Sux | | Imagination is the ultimate Reality | | | | Mike EMail Mike@cryo.demon.co.uk | | CryoNet Cooler than an penguin in a snowstorm | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Boundary-14465040-0-0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:43:06 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. You asked: > Looking at the track listing for the MCMXC a.d. cd there are ten tracks > listed but on my cd player there are fifteen tracks listed ?????? > Can anyone tell me if this is the same on all the limited edition's. It is. The original album puts all parts of "Principles of Lust" and "Back to the Rivers of Belief" as one track, whereas the limited edition splits the tracks up into each part of each. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 8:14:18 -0800 (PST) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > It is. The original album puts all parts of "Principles of Lust" and "Back to > the Rivers of Belief" as one track, whereas the limited edition splits the > tracks up into each part of each. Also, these two tracks were "indexed". My old CD player would show the index so that you could tell which part of a track you were listening to. For some reason my new CD player doesn't recognise indexing. Maybe indexing never became popular? Gavin, my "Flowers Become Screens" single has the album version on it, but i still think it lacks the "atmosphere" that Enigma seems to find so easily. However, you've all persuaded me how wonderful the Delerium album is so i'm sure i'll grab it first chance i get! Here's my tuppence on a "label" for Enigma's type of music: Don't do it! :-) Do The Beatles need a label? Nope. It's the bands that follow that will be labelled, not the one's that lead. Just MHO. claudio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:18:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Enigma Subject: MCMXC a.D. Limited Edition Track listing To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Enigmatic wrote: > It is. The original album puts all parts of "Principles of Lust" and "Back to > the Rivers of Belief" as one track, whereas the limited edition splits the > tracks up into each part of each. > > I have the limited edition tape + hologram (and normal cd) and was wondering why the limited edition MCMXC is still availalbe - whereas the limited edition cross of changes isnt. Perhaps they have adjusted thier concept of limited.... As a result when the limited CoC came out I didnt hurry to purchase a copy - but now cannot get hold of it. Is it still available through any back water..... Marc > Gavin Stok > (Enigma Mailing List President) > > *********************************************************************** > ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** > ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** > ** ** > ** ENIGMA WWW ** > ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** > ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** > *********************************************************************** +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Mail from : Enigma | E-mail : py3mwl@midge.bath.ac.uk | +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Just because your Paranoid DOESNT mean that THEY'RE not AFTER YOU!! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:09:57 -0700 (MST) From: "" Subject: Mea Culpa To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I was just curious. Why is the music video for Mea Culpa the Orthodox version and the MCMXC a.D. CD has a different version. When I bought my copy of MCMXC a.D., Mea Culpa was the first track I played (expecting it to be the version I heard/saw on TV), at first I was disappointed because the video verion (Orthodox) is far better than the CD version, not to say I don't like the CD version because like all Enigma songs, it's excellent too. I was just wondering why Enigma chose to do this, and is the only way to get a copy of the Orthodox version to order it (I can't find it anywhere). Plus what else, I thought was odd, was that on the Limited Edition, the version of Mea Culpa, is yet a different one (Fading Shades). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:45:33 -0700 (MST) From: "" Subject: Mea Culpa & Deep Forest To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi! I just wanted to ask, is the version of Mea Culpa from the video, called the Catholic Mix? I want to order it, because I prefer it to the CD version. Also thanks to everyone's messages I'm now a Deep Forest fan too. I had heard Sweet Lullaby before buy didn't know who it was by, thanks! Also don't you think the female voice in the first track (Deep Forest) sounds like Bjork? I know it's not her, but I'm a Bjork fan too so I love it!! Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 22:14:23 -0500 From: Romany7777@aol.com Subject: Mea Culpa & Deep Forest To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The version of Mea Culpa in the video is the "Orthodox Mix." The Catholic Mix is simply an edited version of the album version, which omits the introductory chants and thunder and has a definite ending instead of a fade out. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 23:11:16 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Message Telepathique To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I've come across a listing for a single called Message Telepathique, which is by "Sandra". I have not heard about any such title by Sandra Cretu, so perhaps this is another artist who has releases under the name of Sandra? This particular record is an Italian single from around 1982, and is produced by JBR Edwige for Jesabel Production. Has anybody heard about this? Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 13:24:57 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: Message Telepathique To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, >I've come across a listing for a single called Message Telepathique, >which is by "Sandra". I have not heard about any such title by Sandra >Cretu, so perhaps this is another artist who has releases under the >name of Sandra? This particular record is an Italian single from around >1982, and is produced by JBR Edwige for Jesabel Production. Has anybody >heard about this? > >Joar I'm sure it's not from 'our' Sandra, but someone else. Here in the Netherlands we also have a 'Sandra', so why could Italy or some other country not have a singer called Sandra ? I know such things can be very confusing. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:40:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Enigma Subject: Micheal Cretu and Mike Oldfield. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I recently purchased Mikew Oldfields Islands cd - and found that some of the tracks were also porduced by Micheal Cretu. Just thought you might like to know! Narc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:12:52 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: monks To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Is this cd good? This is actually the first I have heard of it. "Chantmania", that is. Could someone give me some feedback on this? I love chant! Thanks. bdrake@globalvision.net BRAD DRAKE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 18:09:57 -0500 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: monks To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Is this cd good? This is actually the first I have heard of it. "Chantmania", >that is. >Could someone give me some feedback on this? I love chant! > >Thanks. > >bdrake@globalvision.net > >BRAD DRAKE > >As ia recall "chantmania" is a CD that is a comical version of "chant. Some comedy group thought it would be funny I guess. I don't think i'd recommend it for serious music, but maybe if you needed a good laugh. :) Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:00:28 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: monks (fwd) To: Enigma Fan Club ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:29:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Lamar James Romero" Subject: Re: monks Paul, It is the one thing I do not care much more. It is no music, but constant "chanting". I made the mistake of thinking it was like Enigma, and was deeply disappointed... LJR I On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Paul Bournival wrote: > Hi > > Walked into Newbury Comics on Saturday, and found a disk by > a group of monks that I'd not heard of before. It was from (something > like) "St. Bernadinstine Monks" and was advertised as Gregorian music. > It was in the classical section. Has anyone heard this? Is it > *really* all classical (wah) or perhaps parts are like MCMXC? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 8:29:17 -0800 (PST) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: Mood music? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > I would just like to respond to alot of people's inquiries into MOODSWINGS. > I have the album "Moodfood" and have to say it is AWESOME!!! Agreed. I wouldn't say it's very Enigma-like, but it's a *very* good album. I've noticed that most recommendations from this list are for artists that mix dance music with some sort of "traditional" style, be it "chant", "flamenco" or whatever. I'd agree that artists like B-Tribe and Deep Forest are similar, in a way, to Enigma, but i tend to class Enigma as "mood music". By that i mean music that you'd want to play when the lights are down, the candles are lit and there's probably someone in the room that you'd like to get into various states of undress. :-) In this respect i'd compare Enigma to - This Mortal Coil The Blue Nile Moodswings Am i the only one? claudio ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:38:19 -0400 (AST) From: Karen Sullivan Subject: Mood music? To: Enigma List > i tend to class Enigma as "mood music". By that i mean music that > you'd want to play when the lights are down, the candles are lit > and there's probably someone in the room that you'd like to get into > various states of undress. :-) I must be the only one who doesn't get feeling of this sort when listening to Enigma...when I listen I get this feeling of freedom...freedom to express myself...freedom to feel...freedom to move...and...freedom in my soul...it just fills me with hope, relaxes me, and excites me all at once...no sexual feelings are attached to it...just utter and complete joy and happiness...it makes me more want to be alone and sit and think and be happy than wanting to be with someone else...but heh maybe I'm just weird... Karen Sullivan | "Korman's conclusion: IRC - Lupins | The trouble with resisting temptation is it may R7NM@UNB.CA | never come your way again." ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 95 13:03:10 EDT From: Paul Matthews/US/3Com Subject: Moodswings To: enigma Razvan you wrote: Dear Paul, Could you give me some information on Moodswings ? If you reccommend it highly I might buy the CD. Sincerely, Razvan Verzeanu Razvan, I don't have a lot of information on Moodswings and to my knowledge their only album is "Moodfood". I believe that the group of artists that were Moodswings are no longer together but some of them formed a new group called "Keoki". They recently played in Toronto and were fabulous!! They set up 15 or so percussion instruments and let the fans play them during their music and the guys controlling the mixing panel would bring people in and out of the songs if it sounded good. The concert took place on the Saturday that the prime minister of Israel was assassinated and so they had some special musical tributes and brief speeches etc. to world peace. Lots of white candles, holding hands, and singing together. It was very moving and very memorable. I am often reticent to recommend music to other people because tastes are so varied but I can tell you that for me the Moodfood album is in the top 10 of a 500+ collection. You may wish to find out more about Keoki as my info is somewhat vague and may not altogether be accurate. I believe they may have as many as 8 or 9 cds but I haven't found any yet. If any one on the list has more info I would be very interested in learning more. Paul M. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:07:55 -0500 From: zzhughesb@acad.winthrop.edu Subject: Moodswings To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I would just like to respond to alot of people's inquiries into MOODSWINGS. I have the album "Moodfood" and have to say it is AWESOME!!! The music all sounds much like Enigma and includes the single "Spiritual High". All of the gay/alternative clubs here played it religiously when it first came out. It ("Spiritual High") includes guest lead vocals by Chrissie Hynde (lead singer of the Pretenders). The rest of the CD is just music and/or other not-so-well- known singers. The group did release a live CD the following year (1993?) but nothing since then. I haven't heard anything about the group breaking up, but who knows? Anyway, just wanted to add my 2 cents worth... Anyone else wanting to know more or who have heard of them just let me know!! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:37:23 -0800 From: cschell@oberon.ark.com Subject: Moodswings/Keoki To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au You may wish to find out more about Keoki as my info is >somewhat vague and may not altogether be accurate. I believe they may have as >many as 8 or 9 cds but I haven't found any yet. If any one on the list has >more info I would be very interested in learning more. > >Paul M. > CD Now has 3 Keoki albums for sale: "Journeys by DJ" (rock/pop), "Super Star DJ Keoki" (techno/ambient/industrial) and "We are One" (techno/ambient/industrial). Prices are 15.36 for the first 2 albums and 12.97 for the 3rd one. Any recommendations on these 3? I know you 're reluctant but I am begging :-) Moodswings: Moodfood is also available at CD now for the hot sale price of 12.97!! >I am often reticent to recommend music to other people because tastes are so >varied but I can tell you that for me the Moodfood album is in the top 10 of a >500+ collection. What are the remaining 9 in your top 10? I really want to know. TIA Cschell@oberon.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:23:19 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Music besides Enigma. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I agree with Neil 100%. It's great to talk about enigma but it is not like there is a ton of music to talk about. A couple of CDs is about it. It seems that we rehash the same ideas about enigma over and over which gets rather redundant. Talking about other music is the best thing we can do. It opens up new worlds for all of us. It helps us appreciate music more by exposing us to music. For all we know, there are other artists out there that are writing music that is better than enigma. Wouldn't you want to know about it? This mailing list brings forth new music. Keep up the good work. Peter C. Geisheker P.S. Speaking of new music, I have written 3 new songs so my tape now has 6 songs. If you are interested in hearing my music, e-mail me privately. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:41:25 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Echols Subject: Music besides Enigma. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, like most, I agree that Enigma should be the focus, but unlike some group like Depeche Mode we don't have 250 CDs to talk about and collect. I am very happy that we have such a varied group of music here to discuss because I would probably not have found Deep Forest, Delirium, or Dao Dezi. Let's just keep the discussion and discovery alive, while focusing on our true love...ENIGMA! I recently found another artist I have really begun to enjoy. Her name is Vanessa Daou. Her music is a unique mix of great rythms, jazz instruments, and an Enya-like voice ( with MUCH less reverb ). Her music is not really Enigma-like, but I thought many of you might enjoy her music, so give it a shot next time you are wandering around your music store. Try the album "zipless". Well, that is about it, except to say thanks to all of you for keeping the list alive and interesting. Keep it up! - Jason "this is what the voices in my head told me to do" http://www.realtime.net/~whtthndr ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:42:54 +0100 From: ymthan@iprolink.ch (Ye Min Than) Subject: Music besides Enigma. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, Since all of you are talking about Enigma-like music, I thought you might interested about one Enigma-like CD that I found and love it. That is: "Behind the Eyes" Vol.II, Eye Q Collection. It is a compilation of different groups and artists like Cygnus, Earth Nation..etc. It is basically a Trance music CD. The song "Superstring" by Cygnus in that CD is very much Enigma-like, with all these panflutes, bass and sound effects. Other songs are less similar with Enigma but they are the best Trance music you can ever find. You can buy them on WWW CD shops... Enjoy listening to Enigma, the classic of our times..... Ye Min Than Internet ProLink PC User ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 17:07:33 +0100 From: perta@oslonett.no (Per Terje Aune) Subject: Music from Lost Eden To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, I read this recently: >And finally I don't know if this has been discussed already but the Computer >game Lost Eden from Cryo has an excellent soundtrack which in parts sounds a >little bit like Enigma or Deep Forest. ,and must say that I agree. I've only tried the demo, but the music was very good, and it did sound like Enigma or Deep Forest. It's only background music so there isn't much change in the rhythm or tune. From: Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 22:08:18 -0800 From: cschell@oberon.ark.com Subject: Music like Sacred Spirit To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jez! Yes, it is called "Robbie Robertson & the Red River Ensemble - Music for Native Americans" (Capitol Records 1994 #2438-2895-2). Robbie Robertson is I believe a Native Canadian singer/musician. Most tracks are produced by him. Other native artists involved are Rita Coolidge and Kashtin (you may have heard the song "Akua Tuta" which is also on this CD but pretty average IMO). This is a pretty good compilation IMHO, although not as dance oriented as "Sacred Spririt". The style and mood changes from track to track with my favourites being the tracks performed by Robbie Robertson which I guess you could categorize as ambient pop. Not sure whether this CD is available outside of Canada. Hope this helps, Take care, Cornelia Cschell@oberon.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 16:39:03 EST From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Music like Sacred Spirit To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Jez! >Yes, it is called "Robbie Robertson & the Red River Ensemble - Music for >Native Americans" (Capitol Records 1994 #2438-2895-2). ... >Not sure whether this CD is available outside of Canada. >Hope this helps, I got this CD at my local CD World in New Jersey, so you shouldn't have a problem. This is a real good CD, although it isn't strictly traditional American Indian. It's more modern with samples cut in. The neat aspect is that it is done by strictly North American indians. Another CD that I have that has "some" North American indian samples is Jonathan Elias' "Requiem for the Americas - Songs from the Lost World." According to the booklet in the CD, the songs were "written as a tribute to the spirit and vision of North American." It is definitely a neat CD, but probably had to find. It was released in 1989. On another note, I know some folks have discussed E-Tribe on this list. If you like that style of music, you might want to check out "Willie and Lobo". This is a pair of Mexican musicians which play quite stirring, moodful (like the Paul Winter Consort) music. WHen I first heard E-Tribe, I thought of them. One last night, I'd like to agree with the opinion so far expressed about Moodswings "Moodfood" Album. I first heard about it on this list. While I do not think it sounds at all similar to Enigma (that's what I first heard), I think their style is similar. It is currently one of my favorite CDs. Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:17:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Music like Sacred Spirit To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 9 Nov 1995 cschell@oberon.ark.com wrote: > Jez! > Yes, it is called "Robbie Robertson & the Red River Ensemble - Music for > Native Americans" (Capitol Records 1994 #2438-2895-2). Robbie Robertson is I > believe a Native Canadian singer/musician. Most tracks are produced by him. > Other native artists involved are Rita Coolidge and Kashtin (you may have > heard the song "Akua Tuta" which is also on this CD but pretty average IMO). > This is a pretty good compilation IMHO, although not as dance oriented as > "Sacred Spririt". The style and mood changes from track to track with my > favourites being the tracks performed by Robbie Robertson which I guess you > could categorize as ambient pop. > > Not sure whether this CD is available outside of Canada. > Hope this helps, > Yes this CD is avalable outside Canada, I picked it up like 2to 3 years ago and I like it allot to. Esp the second track i don't quite remeber the song name but it's a killer. If you liked "Sacred Spirit" you'll like this one. Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:27:46 EST From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Music like Sacred Spirit To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >On Thu, 9 Nov 1995 cschell@oberon.ark.com wrote: > >> Jez! >> Yes, it is called "Robbie Robertson & the Red River Ensemble - Music for >> Native Americans" (Capitol Records 1994 #2438-2895-2). ... >Yes this CD is avalable outside Canada, I picked it up like 2to 3 years >ago and I like it allot to. Esp the second track i don't quite remeber >the song name but it's a killer. If you liked "Sacred Spirit" you'll >like this one. The second song is called "Mahk Jchi (Heartbeat Drum Song)". Are you sure you're not referring to "Ghost Dance"? That tune actually got some air-play around here--it is quite good. Also, in another post I compared "Willie and Lobo" to E-Tribe. I meant to say B-Tribe. (E-Tribe is a band that plays around Philadelphia--sort of a folksy type group. Sorry for the confusion.) Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:37:45 -0800 From: severo@pacificnet.net (severino ramos) Subject: My Hubert kah and enigma pages To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Check it out my Hubert Kah and Enigma pages on my Celebrity Photos Database and let me know if I should add something or Make Sandra and Cretu pages separately. I'm on http://north.pacificnet.net/~severo/list.html Don't direct any answers to the mailing list just send me a E-mail note at severo@pacificnet.net Severo from L.A. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:05 +0100 From: ymthan@dial.eunet.ch (YE MIN THAN) Subject: NEW ALBUM OF ENIGMA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, Thanks Rachelle!! For your comments. I am flattered but I wish it become true. Hopefully, Joarg will bring my message to Michael Cretu. As a devoted fan of Enigma,I really looking forward for an Angelic Enigma album. Since I am not a professional musician, my idea might not be great. Since Michael Cretu is in studio for recording his new Enigma album, he obviously has new idea and theme for the new album. As far as my imagination goes, I come to think of using the theme "Angels" for the new album. I described it in detail in my last letter. Enigma music must not sound like a pop tune. It will be a setback. Because the reason why people like so much Enigma is its uniqueness and new. If Enigma songs are like ordinary pop songs nobody would like Enigma anymore. Don't take me wrong here. I am not critizing the works of Michael. But songs like Return to Innocence sounds too much of pop tune. I like it very much but it not my favourite. Enigma songs should be different, new and magical at the same time. When MCMXC A.D. was out in 1991, it was new and people like it because it is a new kind of music. But now there are DEEP FOREST, INDIAN SACRED SPIRITS, DAO DEZI, and others that used ethnical types of music. There are many of them around now. So it is vital for Michael Cretu to find a completely new theme for the new album. In my view, the theme "Angels" is not a bad idea. It is still a new theme as far as I know. Using the imaginary, strange female angels voices, the beautiful sound of strings and harps could be a great thing for the new album. Of course there should be the usual flute and bass sounds which are the symbol of ENIGMA. What do you think people???? The next Enigma album will be out in the next year autumn, as far as I know. I am looking forward to it......By the way, if anyone looking for Enigma-like music, I strongly suggest the compilation CDs such as "Behind The Eyes" Vol.I, II, III..and so on. They are more Trance and instrumental but very nice to listen. They sound like imaginary, futuristic and Trance. MY favourite volume is Vol. II in which one song called "Superstring" sounds exactly like ENIGMA music. Moreover, it starts slowly then goes really fast. Great tunes and bass.There are extremely rare so if you don't find them in store, here is the address: "Behind The Eyes" vol.1,2,3,..... Eye Q Compilation Eye Q Music, STRAHLENBERGER STR. 125 A 63067 OFFENBACH GERMANY Phone: 069 82 97 40 0 Fax: 069 82 97 40 11 See you guys and have fun, YE MIN THAN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:05:24 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: NEW ALBUM OF ENIGMA (fwd) To: Enigma Fan Club I must agree with this part of the statement. I dunno about people offering what Michael should call HIS work, but I definitly agree it should be different like thefirst tune...I think he will do a good job regardless, and I will be the first person in my state to own that NEW CD!!! LJR I On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, YE MIN THAN wrote: > Hello, > > Enigma music must not sound like a pop tune. It will be a setback. > Because the reason why people like so much Enigma is its uniqueness and new. > If Enigma songs are like ordinary pop songs nobody would like Enigma > anymore. Don't take me wrong here. I am not critizing the works of Michael. > But songs like Return to Innocence sounds too much of pop tune. I like it > very much but it not my favourite. Enigma songs should be different, new and > magical at the same time. When MCMXC A.D. was out in 1991, it was new and > people like it because it is a new kind of music. But now there are DEEP > > See you guys and have fun, > > YE MIN THAN > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 95 00:30:53 +1000 From: NEIL STENLAKE Subject: New ENYA Album To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) I have just seen an add on TV for a new Enya album called 'Memory of Trees' (or something close to that). Has anybody heard the entire album? Anybody prepared to give a review for the list? Regards, Neil stenlake@ozemail.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:55:07 -0500 (EST) From: anizami Subject: New ENYA Album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, NEIL STENLAKE wrote: > I have just seen an add on TV for a new Enya album called 'Memory of Trees' (or > something close to that). Has anybody heard the entire album? Anybody prepared > to give a review for the list? > > Regards, Neil > stenlake@ozemail.com.au > > > > > > The new Enya album will be available in the US on December 4th. Its called The Memory of Trees. I think it was released on November 14th in the U.K. and Europe. You can listen to samples of the album on the Reprise Home Page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 09:43:12 GMT From: cb4cda@isis.sunderland.ac.uk (Charles.Davis) Subject: Nuthin' much... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just wondering what people think of Eric Serra (soundtracks to The Big Blue, Leon, tec...), I personally think he's amazing. By the way, got the Sacred Spirit album last week - pretty damned good that one!! Jez again. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 12:11:30 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Nuthin' much... To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Charles.Davis wrote: > > Just wondering what people think of Eric Serra (soundtracks to The Big Blue, Leon, tec...), I personally think he's amazing. By the way, got the Sacred Spirit album last week - pretty damned good that one!! > > > Jez again. > I saw "The Big Blue" and was impressed with the soundtrack. Serra is a very accomplished composer. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:27:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Jacques-Bertrand Pichette (pichette@uniforum.qc.ca)" Subject: Oupss !!! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello I just read a funny one on the list: > Track 2: La Jument De Mishao (Love Palace Mix) 4:03 >This track is sung entirely in French. Now, I don't know French, but thanks >to my college education, I was able to decipher the title ;) >Loosely translated, it means "The Judgement of Mishao". This track is >actually a song;it's not a "chant" track. It's got a pretty good beat, >but of course I have noidea what the song is about. It's not bad, >though. Like Hebrides, there arelots of bagpipe samples. > The judgement of Mishao in french is "Le jugement de Mishao". If the real title in french is "La Jument de Mishao", "jument" is a female horse !!! and "jugement" is judgement. So ... ;-) _____________________________________________________________________ Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca ________________________________|____________________________________ This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:07:25 -0700 (MST) From: facade@asu Subject: Rap mix? To: Enigma Hi everyone, I've been hiding (busy) in this mailing list since summer. I (obviously) enjoy the music of Enigma (and related groups). I've liked Enigma ever since I heard sadeness on the radio. In my (growing) collection: MCMXC A.D. MCMXC A.D. "the limited edition" Mea Culpa part II The Cross of Changes Return to Innocence Age of Loneliness Out of the Deep Of other groups discussed here I have 2 Deep Forest CD. I listen to lots of music not related to Enigma (or sound alike's), far too many to mention here, so I'll refrain. Currently I'm attending Arizona State University and studying for computer system eng. I just turned 20 last October. I've been playing keyboard (both computer and musical) for about 9 years. Recently I've taken up the guitar. I work for a graphics company... doing graphics :) The reason that I've finally surfaced is two fold. First I was wondering if there was a "rap" remix on the sadeness cd. I heard it on the radio several years ago. I noticed a post about a week ago that spoke of a (probably pirate) CD which did contain a "rap" mix of Sadeness. I have checked the FAQ but did not see any info. I have the sadeness CD on order, but just can't wait. Second, how can I get the Limited Edition Cross of Changes (new). I have called every (across seas) and have not been able to get a CONFIRMED answer. Someone, somewhere MUST know who still has a few copies unsold. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 01:15:20 GMT From: Michael Subject: Re: WTB Enigma record To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In your message dated Sunday 22, October 1995 you wrote : > On Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:20:37 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > > > > > >Hello > > > >I want to buy the "Limited edition" of Enigma I ( The one with the green > >marble jacket ). > > > >I also wtb any single CD of Enigma. ( at a reasonable price of course ) > > > >If somebody know where I can find one of these CD, please e-mail to me. > > > >Thank you > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > > Jacques-Bertrand Pichette | Email: > > | pichette@uniforum.qc.ca > >________________________________|____________________________________ > > > >This E-mail is printed on 100% recycled electron. > > > > > > If you are still trying to find a limited edition of the MCMXC a.d. then let me know cause i saw three copies in virgin music in southampton U.K. Thanx, Mike. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reality Sux | | Imagination is the ultimate Reality | | | | Mike EMail Mike@cryo.demon.co.uk | | CryoNet Cooler than an penguin in a snowstorm | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 20:43:22 -0700 (MST) From: Tyler Thorsted Subject: Re: WTB Enigma record To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have beem listening to the messages about the limited edition Enigma CD. How much were the copies you found in virgin Record's in the U.K. Tyler Thorsted ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 20:58:11 +1000 From: NEIL STENLAKE Subject: Re[1]: Mood music? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) Reply to message text: Hi Folks - my first post to this forum.bear with me. There was some discussion several weeks ago about what to call the music of Enigma. Don't like 'Ambient', 'New Electronic' etc... I call it 'Image Music'. When I listen to Enigma and similar, it allows me to conjure up many mind images - always good ones, especially when lying back in the dark doing nothing but listening. Seeing as this is my first post, a litle about me. Age 43, Computer consultant, Sydney Australia, had classical piano upbringing. Discovered 'Electronic Music' around 1965 with the release of 'Switched On Bach' ........ thought it absolutely revolutionary, have searched for Electronic anything ever since. Subsequently like JM Jarre, Vangelis Edgar Froese, Cybotron (early 70's Melbourne band) Allan Parsons Project, Enigma DeepForest. Am now also interested in Enya and Loreena McKennett (spelling ??) For those of you who haunt 2nd hand record stores try and find an album called 'Music Inspired by Lord of the Rings' by a swedish guy called Bo Hanson. I was once told he played keyboards for Hendrix, but don't let that scare you. That album would have been the 'Enigma of the early 70's' , sorry no chanting, but great to listen to in the dark........gives great 'images'!!!!!! Thats enough for now - Neil Stenlake stenlake@ozemail.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karen Sullivan > i tend to class Enigma as "mood music". By that i mean music that > you'd want to play when the lights are down, the candles are lit > and there's probably someone in the room that you'd like to get into > various states of undress. :-) I must be the only one who doesn't get feeling of this sort when listening to Enigma...when I listen I get this feeling of freedom...freedom to express myself...freedom to feel...freedom to move...and...freedom in my soul...it just fills me with hope, relaxes me, and excites me all at once...no sexual feelings are attached to it...just utter and complete joy and happiness...it makes me more want to be alone and sit and think and be happy than wanting to be with someone else...but heh maybe I'm just weird... Karen Sullivan | "Korman's conclusion: IRC - Lupins | The trouble with resisting temptation is it may R7NM@UNB.CA | never come your way again." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:00:33 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Re[1]: Mood music? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Instead of calling the music "mood" or "image" music we may as well call it the proper name of "program music." Program music is music created to conjure up images and/or tell a story. The term "program music" has been used since the 19th century. Music lesson over. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:39:37 +0100 From: perta@oslonett.no (Per Terje Aune) Subject: Re[1]: Mood music? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Neil Stenlake wrote (and many have expressed their feelings about) : >There was some discussion several weeks ago about what to call the music of >Enigma. Don't like 'Ambient', 'New Electronic' etc... I call it 'Image Music'. Personally, I prefer calling it 'Enigma'. From: Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:28:38 +1000 From: NEIL STENLAKE Subject: Re[1]: New ENYA Album To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (CC: Enigma), enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Reply to message text: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- THankyou for the reply & info. Cab you please post the 'Reprise Home Page' URL to the list - thanx. Ain't modern communications science grand??? Neil stenlake@ozemail.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- From: anizami On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, NEIL STENLAKE wrote: > I have just seen an add on TV for a new Enya album called 'Memory of Trees' (or > something close to that). Has anybody heard the entire album? Anybody prepared > to give a review for the list? > > Regards, Neil > stenlake@ozemail.com.au > The new Enya album will be available in the US on December 4th. Its called The Memory of Trees. I think it was released on November 14th in the U.K. and Europe. You can listen to samples of the album on the Reprise Home Page. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:55:22 +1000 From: NEIL STENLAKE Subject: Re[1]: Re[1]: Mood music? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (CC: Enigma), enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Reply to message text: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds a little too clinical to me, but yes you are right 'program' music has been used since 19thC, and your defintion is spot on. My point in the earlier post was probably not put well enough. What music of the ilk of Enigma does for me is that it allows me to conjure up *my own* images, not necessarily those that the composer originally intended. Whether the composer would be happy with that though is another question. BTW - thanks for the music lesson :-) Neil Stenlake stenlake@osemail.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Instead of calling the music "mood" or "image" music we may as well call it the proper name of "program music." Program music is music created to conjure up images and/or tell a story. The term "program music" has been used since the 19th century. Music lesson over. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 22:11:55 +1000 From: NEIL STENLAKE Subject: Re[1]: Re[1]: Mood music? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) Reply to message text: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- Good point, and I have to confess I agree with you. What better label to a unique musical form than the name of the originators. Lets hope that 'Enigma' music, the form, is evident in Enigma 3. Neil stenlake@ozemail.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ From: perta@oslonett.no (Per Terje Aune) Neil Stenlake wrote (and many have expressed their feelings about) : >There was some discussion several weeks ago about what to call the music of >Enigma. Don't like 'Ambient', 'New Electronic' etc... I call it 'Image Music'. Personally, I prefer calling it 'Enigma'. From: Per Terje Aune ============================================================================= "Snail" mail to: Per Terje Aune E-mail to: perta@oslonett.no Brudalsvegen 29 WWW: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/ 7080 HEIMDAL NORWAY Telephone: +47 72 58 03 59 Deep Forest WWW Homepage: http://www.oslonett.no/~perta/dforest/dforest.html ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:17 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Reminder To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Sorry, for annoying you guys, but I thought I'd just remind the people with IRC access that tomorrow is Friday (Yaaa!) and I plan to get #enigma-fan going with trivia. So all of you come and join in, maybe come with some answers too. :) I will start the channel at 8:00 EST, but you are free to go in before and start it. to join type /join #enigma-fan then you will be greeted warmly by one of us :) If you need information, feel free to email (ncutler@duncan.island.net) |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:03:30 MST From: "Josh Johnson" Subject: REVIEW: Boheme by Deep Forest To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Received: from SpoolDir by US-UT-K12-SANJUAN-SJHS (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 5 Nov 95 3:03:47 +1100 Return-path: Received: from yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au by sjhs.sanjuan.k12.ut.us (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 5 Nov 95 3:03:37 +1100 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA20403 for enigma-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 11:40:29 +1000 Received: from cnct.com (cnct.com [165.254.118.51]) by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA20378 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 11:40:02 +1000 Received: from (rtemple@cnct.com [165.254.118.51]) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA17010 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:44:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199509240144.VAA17010@cnct.com> X-Sender: rtemple@cnct.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:39:52 -0400 To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au From: rtemple@cnct.com (R. Temple) Subject: Re: REVIEW: Boheme by Deep Forest X-Mailer: Sender: owner-enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Gavin Wrote: > >> REVIEW: BOHEME BY DEEP FOREST [1995] > If you are a fan of the first album, do not buy Boheme >> until you've listened to it. If you are a fan of ethnic and world >> music as well as electronic music, then this album is for you! > >I agree. I'm a HUGE fan of the First Deep Forest album and I think the >follow-up is terrible. It isn't really a Deep Forest album. It is just >another entry in the world beat ethno pop genre, and it comes off more like >a various artists comp than a album with a single vision/sound. It also I had the chance to listen to the CD via the try out area in a bookstore. It is not good at all. I did however buy a CD by Loreena McKennitt. Real interesting so far. I don't know yet if it was worth it to buy it because it is only 4 min. into it.... ********************** * rtemple@cnct.com * * Brooklyn, New York * ********************** Well, even though some of you felt that BOHEME was a terrible release, I feel that even though the style of music has changed and is not as fast paced as the first album, the music is very good, and any kind of music that has samples of ethnic music is good. I personally love BOHEME, and my favorite song is Cafe Europa because DF uses samples of Native Americans, and I am a Native American. It is a little slow, and I like to listen to the Marta's Song remix ," Armand's Muslim Moose Mix" because it is fast. Josh Johnson San Juan High School 311 N 100 E. Blanding, Utah 84511 "Somewhere, deep in the jungle, are living little men and women.They are, our past, and maybe, maybe they are your future!" Deep Forest" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:15:30 -0400 (EDT) From: RMAZA1@vaxc.hofstra.edu Subject: Sandra To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello all, I just picked up Sandra's Everlasting Love after hearing everybody talk about her and truthfully, I'm very disappointed. I was somehow expecting something a little closer to Enigma I suppose. Someone should have said that it was '80's pop/dance music. It almost sounds like Samantha Fox. Oh well, I'm still on the lookout for Delerium. I hope I'm not disappointed by that. The Mighty Warlock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 15:34:20 +0100 From: ymthan@dial.eunet.ch (YE MIN THAN) Subject: Sandra To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hello all, > I just picked up Sandra's Everlasting Love after hearing everybody talk >about her and truthfully, I'm very disappointed. I was somehow expecting >something a little closer to Enigma I suppose. Someone should have said that >it was '80's pop/dance music. It almost sounds like Samantha Fox. Oh well, >I'm still on the lookout for Delerium. I hope I'm not disappointed by that. > > The Mighty Warlock > > > "Everlasting Love" is a reprise song. It's an old favourite song of Sandra. I agree that it's not close to Enigma because it's not her original song. All of her albums, except the last one "Fading Shades", was composed and produced by Michael Cretu alias Enigma. They are very close to Enigma but they are also traditional songs. Listen to the songs like "Mirror of Love", "Secretland", "The Journey", "Johnny wanna live", "You'll be mine", and many more. Sandra's songs are very refined and sophisticated. You will realize that they are similar to Enigma. Not exactly similar but they have the same uniqueness and touch. Sandra's songs, because of Michael's marvelous works, are to my views far way better than that of Madonna, Janet Jackson, Samantha Fox, ...etc. Sandra's songs are different. They are better musically and technically than most of the female singers today. Too bad that her last album was composed by Jens Gad and not Michael. Looking forward for the new ENIGMA album.... Ye Min Than ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 17:11:10 +0100 From: mdekker@metropolis.nl (Martin Dekker) Subject: Sandra To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi there, I just had a lucky weekend!!! Not only could I buy a Zimbabwian (is that the correct spelling????) record from Sandra, I also bought her single "Japan ist Weit" (produced by Michael). Bye the bye, the song on the B-side of that single ("Sekunden") is both produced and written by Michael... It's probably easier to get old records on fairs than new stuff in the shops here in Holland (what a shame). Anyway, I've tried to import have her maxi-cd "Won't run away" from Germany. Without results (no need to mention I guess). Why does Virgin not just sell her singles here????#$#%@%?? My question now.... Is there anyone out there (In Germany perhaps) who can help me getting that cd-maxi???? Bitte send mir deine E-Mail adresse, dan kann ich kontakt mit dir aufnehmen!!! (Ich weiss, dass war kein gut Deutsch, aber besser kann ich nicht...) That's it... . Martin Dekker mdekker@metropolis.nl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:37:47 -0800 (PST) From: Milena Michailovna Issenina Subject: Sandra To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, my name is Milena Issenina. I have just subscribed to ENIGMA and will be happy to receive messages about Sandra. I am 23 and I am an international exchange student here in California. I am a fan of Sandra since 1986 and I love to listen to her music, especially, her early albums of 80's. I like Enigma also but only because I can hear Sandra's voice singing there. I am a fan of music of 80's, and I am glad to see that now the trend in the world music is turning to those years. In modern dance music, like techno-pop, I can't help noticing the rhythms and melodies of 80's, and it is exciting. In the music of 80's I like so called "euro-disco" (I'm sure, guys, you never heard about it before, such bands as "Modern Talking", C.C.Catch, Dieter Bohlen and "Blue System", "Bad Boys Blue" and others). So if somebody has ever heard about these bands and has some information about what they are doing now, I'll be very glad to receive your messages and exchange our opinions. That's all, folks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 17:52:56 -0700 From: ssschool@ccinet.ab.ca (Paul R.) Subject: Sandra To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, In recent postings, I have seen quite a bit of talk about "Sandra Cretu" and how her music is so excellent. I tried to go to a music store here in Northern Alberta (Canada) and the guy there had never heard about it, so he started to look it up. He looked in Canadian, American, and several European distributor's catalogs but never even found her name (although Michael's came up several times in Germany) I really want to know how I can get my hands on some of her music. As well, he had no idea how to get a hold of the Limited edition MCMXC a.d. I really want to get my hands on that one to. Keep smiling... _______ |_______| |aul Roffel Canada Bill Jones' Motto: It's morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 20:03:20 CST From: Irhimes@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu Subject: Sandra To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >In recent postings, I have seen quite a bit of talk about "Sandra Cretu" >and how her music is so excellent. I tried to go to a music store here >in Northern Alberta (Canada) and the guy there had never heard about it, so >he started to look it up. Actually, she's known as Sandra and not Sandra Cretu :-). In the US, the only way to stay updated with her music is through German imports, quite possibly the same with Canada. Try "The Long Play" CD for a good intro to her music or "The Greatest Hits" CD (the former tends to be a lot cheaper). Good luck. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:05:58 -0500 From: Jerry Smith Subject: Sandra To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Paul, Sandra is billed as only Sandra with her music, not her married name. check cdcoonection.com for what available in North America, and then ask your local store to order them, or you can order them from cdconnection direct. If you really want to see what all is out out there try cdeurope.com. As I remind people, UPS goes everywhere, the world is really getting smaller. Have a better one. At 05:52 PM 25-11-95 -0700, you wrote: >Hi all, > >In recent postings, I have seen quite a bit of talk about "Sandra Cretu" >and how her music is so excellent. I tried to go to a music store here in >Northern Alberta (Canada) and the guy there had never heard about it, so he >started to look it up. He looked in Canadian, American, and several >European distributor's catalogs but never even found her name (although >Michael's came up several times in Germany) > >I really want to know how I can get my hands on some of her music. > >As well, he had no idea how to get a hold of the Limited edition MCMXC a.d. >I really want to get my hands on that one to. > >Keep smiling... > > > > _______ >|_______| >|aul Roffel > >Canada Bill Jones' Motto: > It's morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money. :-) > > > Jerry Smith jfsmith@ee.net and jfsmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us The Internet is a passing fad, just like Cable T.V. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:03:20 +0100 From: ymthan@dial.eunet.ch (YE MIN THAN) Subject: SANDRA AND ENIGMA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi! I'm a devoted fan of both Sandra and Enigma. Sandra is the wife of Michael Cretu. Since Sandra's first album "The Long Play", Michael alias Enigma was composing and producing her albums. Just recently, Sandra released "Fading Shades" album. I was expecting a lot from that album, thinking of Michael's wonderful Enigma songs. To be honest I was disappointed because it was Jens Gad who took care of the music score for the whole album except the song "First Lullaby" by Michael. Jens Gad is a good composer but couldn't equal to the calibre of Michael. The whole album sounds OK but not as distinctive and refined as her previous albums which were the works of Michael. I don't know why Michael didn't play a big role in "Fading Shades". Moreover, it was not a big success. That shows how much Michael is vital. "Fading Shades" has some good songs but the music is not as good as Sandra's song before. Too bad because Sandra had excellent albums before because of Michael. You can see some sound effects similarity from Enigma and Sandra. Especially in Sandra's "Mirror of Love", you can hear the same sounds that you hear "Knocking on Forbidden Doors" of Enigma. Have fun...... Ye Min Than ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:54:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: SANDRA AND ENIGMA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, YE MIN THAN wrote: > Hi! > > > I'm a devoted fan of both Sandra and Enigma. Sandra is the wife of > Michael Cretu. Since Sandra's first album "The Long Play", Michael alias > Enigma was composing and producing her albums. Just recently, Sandra > released "Fading Shades" album. I was expecting a lot from that album, > thinking of Michael's wonderful Enigma songs. > > To be honest I was disappointed because it was Jens Gad who took > care of the music score for the whole album except the song "First Lullaby" > by Michael. Jens Gad is a good composer but couldn't equal to the calibre of > Michael. The whole album sounds OK but not as distinctive and refined as her > previous albums which were the works of Michael. I don't know why Michael > didn't play a big role in "Fading Shades". Moreover, it was not a big > success. That shows how much Michael is vital. "Fading Shades" has some good > songs but the music is not as good as Sandra's song before. Too bad because > Sandra had excellent albums before because of Michael. You can see some > sound effects similarity from Enigma and Sandra. Especially in Sandra's > "Mirror of Love", you can hear the same sounds that you hear "Knocking on > Forbidden Doors" of Enigma. > > Have fun...... > > Ye Min Than > > > > I too have the same same concerns regarding Enigma's next album. IT seems like Cretu really like Jens Gad and is letting him do quite a lot, but the sad part is that Jens doesn't quite comprehend what Enigma should sound like. For example listen to all the remixes that he did for the Cross of Changes. It was far cry from Cretu's work, and I was utterly dissapointed with them, as well as with Sandra's Fading Shades' album. Here's hoping that Cretu will be the driving force behind Enigma's eagerly awaited album. Am I alone in my fears for the involvement of Jens Gad in Enigma 3? Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:32:00 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: SANDRA AND ENIGMA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, >> To be honest I was disappointed because it was Jens Gad who took >> care of the music score for the whole album except the song "First Lullaby" >> by Michael. >I too have the same same concerns regarding Enigma's next album. IT >seems like Cretu really like Jens Gad and is letting him do quite a lot, >but the sad part is that Jens doesn't quite comprehend what Enigma should >sound like. For example listen to all the remixes that he did for the >Cross of Changes. It was far cry from Cretu's work, and I was utterly >dissapointed with them, as well as with Sandra's Fading Shades' album. > >Here's hoping that Cretu will be the driving force behind Enigma's >eagerly awaited album. > >Am I alone in my fears for the involvement of Jens Gad in Enigma 3? > >Dinh LE No, you're not alone, I think working together with Jens Gad is the biggest mistake Michael Cretu has made in his life. Jens Gad can NEVER compare to Michael Cretu, I was very disappointed when I heard "Fading Shades", and to be honest : I've never played the album again, I only bought it because it was a Sandra album, and I'm still a Sandra fan, but I hope this mistake was for once, and that the next Sandra or Enigma album will be a Cretu album again, and NOT a mainstream dance album of which hundreds are made every year, and which I don't like ! _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:42:22 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: SANDRA AND ENIGMA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. Dinh Le wrote: > I too have the same same concerns regarding Enigma's next album. IT > seems like Cretu really like Jens Gad and is letting him do quite a lot, > but the sad part is that Jens doesn't quite comprehend what Enigma should > sound like. For example listen to all the remixes that he did for the > Cross of Changes. It was far cry from Cretu's work, and I was utterly > dissapointed with them, as well as with Sandra's Fading Shades' album. > > Here's hoping that Cretu will be the driving force behind Enigma's > eagerly awaited album. > > Am I alone in my fears for the involvement of Jens Gad in Enigma 3? I share your fears, and in my final letter to Enigma management this year have asked whether Jens Gad is involved in Enigma 3 even thought there's apparently no more news until April 1996... we'll have to wait and see what comes back. My personal opinion is that Gad's influence is very good for remixes and would be good if electric guitar is going to be a more major influence on Enigma 3 (which I feel it will), but if Enigma 3 becomes dance-orientated I feel that things will be for the worse. We'll just have to wait and see! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:37:26 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Sara Brightman's new album To: enigma If anyone out there has the new album from her, I've heard that it was entitled "Surrender" anywyay please e-mail me privatly I have some questions. Thank you. Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:12:59 -0500 (EST) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: Sara Brightman's new album To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > > If anyone out there has the new album from her, I've heard that it was > entitled "Surrender" anywyay please e-mail me privatly I have some > questions. Thank you. > > Dinh LE > Hmm. Does anyone know when it is supposed to be released in the U.S.? I checked everywhere and I don't think it was released in the U.S. Shan -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn:C()R()N/\ Je Veux Aller Au Bout De Mes Fantasmes:Mea Culpa|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:53:58 CST From: "Robin Wessels" Subject: Sarah Brightman To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, The new Sarah Brightman album "Surrender" has been related, it was due to release at 23 October, so I went to a record shop yesterday to ask if they knew something and they said it hasn't been released yet, but the release date still was 23 October, so I don't know how long we'll have to wait. I don't know if there's an English Sarah fan on this list, but if so maybe he/she could ask at an English record store if they know more (I live in the Netherlands, and at some shops they know what's going on in the UK, but in the UK they'll know it better). The full title of the album is : Sarah Brightman and Andrew Lloyd Webber : Surrender, the unexpected songs I don't think Andrew sings on it, but he might have composed some / all of the songs, so I don't think the last single "A question of honour", which was written and produced by Frank Peterson, is on it. When I know more I'll let you know. _________________________________________________ | ROBIN | | | | mail: R.Wessels@Student.UTwente.Nl | | home: http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/index.htm | | Chante Moore homepage : | | http://huizen.dds.nl/~robin-w/chante/home.htm | |_________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:12:19 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Nguyen Subject: Sarah Brightman To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Robin Wessels wrote: > > The new Sarah Brightman album "Surrender" has been related, > it was due to release at 23 October, so I went to a record shop yesterday > to ask if they knew something and they said it hasn't been released yet, > but the release date still was 23 October, > so I don't know how long we'll have to wait. > > The full title of the album is : > Sarah Brightman and Andrew Lloyd Webber : Surrender, the unexpected songs > > I don't think Andrew sings on it, but he might have composed some / all of > the songs, so I don't think the last single "A question of honour", which > was written and produced by Frank Peterson, is on it. hi robin, i've seen the cover of 'Surrender' on a Sarah WebPage, so yeah, it is out. the address is http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~albert01/index.html or if you've got netscape, do a netsearch on sarah brightman. and a 'question of honour' is not on it...which sucks. I'm not as interested in her older works than i am in her works with Peterson. there is a full track listing and a few comments by the dude that owns the page. hope that helps you dude. if anyone has any info on her work with peterson, please let me know. thanks. -Paul Nguyen st8av@bayou.uh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:10:48 -0600 From: jl@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (J. Li) Subject: Save the Rain Forest Music Video To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I'm surprised no one talked about this yet; but a music video / cd-rom featuring supermodels promoting the presevation of rain forest has been released (at least in the US). The video also features music of Enigma and some other musicians. I haven't heard of them, but most likely the songs will be sadness or return to innocence. Anybody got the cd-rom or video yet? (Interestingly I receive another junk mail from the 'Pygmy Fund' organisation; the one that was mention in the liner of the Deep Forest - Forest Hyme single. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 8:29:29 -0800 (PST) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: Scary? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > ... she said that Mozart's 40th symphony (first on the tape) was > awesome, but the rest... (Enigma) with the 'monks singing'... was > horrible. She said it really scared her... She didn't like listening to > it because she was so scared of it. Everyone's different. There's a few reasons why she might feel like this. 1. She's been influenced by hard-core catholics and believes that "holy" music (chanting) should NEVER be violated by mixing it with "fornication" music (pretty much anything other than some classical). People like this believe that it's satanic in some way. 2. She's never heard chanting other than when it's been used in horror films and therefore associates it with being frightened. 3. She was molested by a priest, or in a church, when very young and associates it with that. 4. She's led a sheltered life (musically) and fears what she doesn't understand. [This one's common!] "Obscenity is in the mind of the beholder" as they say, so whatever the reason, it's in her mind, not in the music. Just my tuppence. The above is purely speculation and is only based on personal experience. claudio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:24:18 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: Seph! To: Enigma Fan Club Very nice intro...you will add greatly to the EML!! LJR I I will check out Dead Can Dance! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:06:41 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: Silly:):) To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Karen wrote: >I was recently in a music store...Radio Land i think it was...anyways as >usual I went to see if by some weird chance they had any of the singles >in stock...well...in the Enigma slot there was Cross of Changes and >someone called Michael English? When I first saw it I thought it was >Michael Cretu...are they the same or is English just after Enigma in >alphabetical order?? Hi Karen, I smiled when I read your message! Your question really is not silly.:) Do listen to my rather embarrassing and silly occurance:):):): When I first learned of Enigma, of course, I wanted to buy all the music I could find of their's. I looked up Columbia House on Line and I ordered everything they had of Enigma's. Well, I came to find out that one of the Albums was not the Enigma group I had planned on hearing. It was not Michael Cretu in any way, shape or form. In true fact, it was a very Classical group that I've never heard of. Giggles!!!! Forever Keep Smiling!!! Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizon, USA > ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 22:08:54 -0800 From: cschell@oberon.ark.com Subject: Sky Cries Mary To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >> Some of you may be interested to hear a band called Sky Cries Mary, This >> Timeless Turning[1994]. They are a Seattle Washington band >> ALL of the interesting sounds that were produced for our listening pleasures! >> Both Enigma and SCM are AURAL ORGASM to me! Hmmm, I'm intrigued. Has anyone else heard of this band? More info regarding their musical style/category would be greatly appreciated. TIA Cschell@oberon.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 17:07:18 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Sky Cries Mary To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Thu, 9 Nov 1995 cschell@oberon.ark.com wrote: > > >> Some of you may be interested to hear a band called Sky Cries Mary, This > >> Timeless Turning[1994]. They are a Seattle Washington band > >> ALL of the interesting sounds that were produced for our listening pleasures! > >> Both Enigma and SCM are AURAL ORGASM to me! > > Hmmm, I'm intrigued. Has anyone else heard of this band? More info regarding > their musical style/category would be greatly appreciated. > TIA A band out of Seattle? Wow! There's something you don't see everyday. Gee, let me guess, does it rain a lot there too? Tragically sick of Seattle bands. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:02:29 -0400 (EDT) From: RMAZA1@vaxc.hofstra.edu Subject: Sleepy talk To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Just a brief note on enigma and sleep and sexual passion stuff. I agree that enigma is very emotional. It helps to bring out whatever emotion the listener might be feeling. For instance, if a couple are together and they are listening to Enigma, they may become very turned on by the music. I have had Enigma playing on the cd player while I was with someone and I have to admit it is a very sensual experience. On another note, my roommate used to listen to my Enigma cd's every night before they went to bed. Couldn't fall asleep without them. When I asked about the reason why they listened to it all the time they said it made them feel more peaceful and helped them relax. Just a little note of nonsense. Later... *=-) The Mighty Warlock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 11:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: RMAZA1@vaxc.hofstra.edu Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello everyone, Since the topic of discussions have gone around to stuff that sounds like enigma and enya, has enyone heard the soundtrack to the tv special Wild Palms? There is some new age stuff there and a song that sounds a lot like enigma stuff. It's not, but it's still pretty cool. As for other stuff, what does everyone think of Yanni? Personally I like and listen to Enigma, Deep Forest, Enya, Yanni, and lots of others. Also, to the person talking about the Chant album, I was in the record store just the other day and saw that Chant II has just come out. later, The Mighty Warlock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:17:15 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 1 Nov 1995 RMAZA1@vaxc.hofstra.edu wrote: > Hello everyone, > Since the topic of discussions have gone around to stuff that sounds > like enigma and enya, has enyone heard the soundtrack to the tv special Wild > Palms? There is some new age stuff there and a song that sounds a lot like > enigma stuff. It's not, but it's still pretty cool. > As for other stuff, what does everyone think of Yanni? Personally I > like and listen to Enigma, Deep Forest, Enya, Yanni, and lots of others. > Also, to the person talking about the Chant album, I was in the record > store just the other day and saw that Chant II has just come out. > later, > The Mighty Warlock Yes, I remember seeing the "Wild Palms" miniseries. Very cool as was the music soundtrack. Great reason to decide not to make a tv show out of it and scrap the project. Why is everything good cancelled? Yanni. He used to be my greatest influence as a composer until I heard the music of enigma. Not that there is anything wrong with Yanni, I just prefer everything about enigma more. Yanni is an amazing composer. Hard to believe he can't read music. Yanni is totally self-taught (so am I). Yanni's older music is much better than his current music. Private Music wants to make money so they have Yanni write what sells. Unfortunatly what sells in the case of Yanni is "flowery" wallpaper music one step above elevator musac. Yes, I am being kind of harsh but I feel that Yanni is selling out his artistic integrity for $$$money$$$. Thankfully, artists such as Patrick O'Hearn who used to be signed to Private Music have now started their own labels so they can explore and develop their own art instead of being pawns to Private Music. This has been a session of "Deep Thoughts" by Peter C. Geisheker, an enigma wannabee. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Has anyone come across an album called "songs of sanctuary" (it contains a single called "adiemus")? Is it Enigma like? Also i received a postcard from Virgin about an album called "Sacred Spirit - Chants and Dances of the Native Americans". Has anyone heard this either? claudio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:00:08 -0800 From: mcgee@redshift.com (Jeffry McGee) Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Hello everyone, > Since the topic of discussions have gone around to stuff that sounds >like enigma and enya, has enyone heard the soundtrack to the tv special Wild >Palms? There is some new age stuff there and a song that sounds a lot like >enigma stuff. It's not, but it's still pretty cool. > As for other stuff, what does everyone think of Yanni? Personally I >like and listen to Enigma, Deep Forest, Enya, Yanni, and lots of others. > Also, to the person talking about the Chant album, I was in the record >store just the other day and saw that Chant II has just come out. > later, > The Mighty Warlock If you like Deep Forest, Enigma, and Enya, then I'm sure all of you will like PATH, an ambient collection from Windham Hill. It's great! //// (. .) ---------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------- Jeffry McGee mcgee@redshift.com ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:51:12 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 1 Nov 1995 claudio@ixi.COM wrote: > > Has anyone come across an album called "songs of sanctuary" (it > contains a single called "adiemus")? Is it Enigma like? > > Also i received a postcard from Virgin about an album called > "Sacred Spirit - Chants and Dances of the Native Americans". > Has anyone heard this either? > > claudio > > Yes i have heard of teh album, and I own it. It's quite good. It's takes a while to get into the songs but once the songs get going they're really out of this world. If anyone needs more info I'm here. Dinh LE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 23:57:47 -0500 From: jdf149@psu.edu (Jeremy Fox) Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I can vouch for Sacred Spirits. It is very much like Enigma, but based upon American Indian music. I like it alot myself. Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:41:11 -0700 (MST) From: rachelle@amug.org (Rachelle Hamblin) Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au RMAZA wrote: >> As for other stuff, what does everyone think of Yanni? Personally I >> like and listen to Enigma, Deep Forest, Enya, Yanni, and lots of others. You have superb taste in music!!! Yanni is one of my favorite's!!!! Peter Geisheker wrote: >Yanni. He used to be my greatest influence as a composer until I heard >the music of enigma. Understandable Pete! Not that there is anything wrong with Yanni, I just prefer everything about enigma more. Yanni is an amazing composer. Hard to believe he can't read music. Yanni is totally self-taught (so am I). That is what I think is so very special about Yanni's music.* Yanni's older music is much better than his current music. Private >Music wants to make money so they have Yanni write what sells. >Unfortunatly what sells in the case of Yanni is "flowery" wallpaper music >one step above elevator musac. Yes, I am being kind of harsh but I feel >that Yanni is selling out his artistic integrity for $$$money$$$. > Hey, what a minute Pete!!!! I adore Yanni's Music!!!! It is very peaceful!!!!! Luv, Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin-Phoenix, Arizona, USA ******************************************* Rachelle LaDelle Hamblin rachelle@amug.org *Angel* *LOVE* is the Reason for Living!!!!!!!!!! ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:53:56 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: sounds like enigma & more To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have to say that my favorites are: ENIGMA DEEP FOREST ENYA B-TRIBE DEAD CAN DANCE DELERIUM AND KATE BUSH(HOUNDS OF LOVE !!!!!!) BRAD DRAKE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:17:06 -0700 (MST) From: S E Pechin Subject: Spiritual High To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Brian, For a "Spiritual High," I highly suggest Delerium's Semantic Spaces. It is worth listening to over and over again S.E.Pechin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 8:30:03 -0800 (PST) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: Spiritual High To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > For a "Spiritual High," I highly suggest Delerium's Semantic > Spaces. It is worth listening to over and over again Just to balance the opinions; I have "Flowers Become Screens" by Delerium and i find it extremely bland. It's more "soul" than "enigma-like" IMHO. claudio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 23:33:11 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Spiritual High To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Claudio! You wrote: > Just to balance the opinions; I have "Flowers Become Screens" by > Delerium and i find it extremely bland. It's more "soul" than > "enigma-like" IMHO. In defense (since I love "Semantic Spaces" so much!) you will find that the single you mention does NOT have the album version of "Flowers Become Screens" and that it is just one of many tracks on the album - some of which differ in more ways than others..... Trust me (and all the other members on the list who have said in the past) when I say that if you love Enigma you'll love Delerium's "Semantic Spaces"! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 17:19:42 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Spooky chanting. To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I played principles of lust for my father and he was a little spooked by it. He grew up in a private Catholic military school and heard the monks chanting every morning in the underground tunnels that connected the dorms to the church. He said that it was scary when he was a kid and hearing enigma instantly awakened his long forgotten fears. However, he loved the music and purchased the CD. Just thought you might be interested in the above story. Now, everytime enigma is played he feels this need to retell me the above story. It was interesting the first couple dozen times, almost, andreally irritating the last couple of dozen times. Now, I am going to post this message everyday so you can go through the same horror that I have to go through. The always pleasant and cheerful Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: claudio@ixi.COM Subject: Stone Edge To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I bought the "Stone Edge" album over the weekend. It's nowhere near as good as Enigma, but it has it's moments. It's a mix of traditional folk and modern/new age. I *really* dislike folk music, but this album certainly makes it far more enjoyable. There's some excellent use of bagpipes (sampled or synth?) in there, but it gets kind of boring after a while. These guys seem to be French, which surprised me considering the Celtic feel of the album. I got it for $2.00, so it was right for the price. :-) claudio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:05:48 -0700 From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: Suggestions for next cd? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I went to a local Music Store today to see if they had the album Banba by Enya since I loved the music in Last of the Mohicans, I found all of the albums you have been talking about, including a Christmas LP, anybody know about this? but I also found one that did not have a name (that I could see at least) the cover was all black with a picture of Enya (I assume) kneeling down and had two dogs beside her (german shepard?) what album is that? They also had Deep Forest Bonheme?? My real question comes in here, what would you suggest I get next, since I -love- enigma. Thanx for reading PS, remember IRC??? :) I'm on at 8:00 EST and sometimes 11:00 EST. Need any help? curious what it is? email me. |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "Marie had a little RAM- about a Meg or so" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:29:32 +0500 From: sb7421@acs.brockport.edu (Stephen Buck) Subject: Suggestions for next cd? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Neil, The Enya cd that you were thinking of I believe is self titled, for there is no other words on the cover of the cd accept for Enya...well and Atlantic, but that's the record company. __________________________________________________________________ | | | |yippee!!! | | | | | | | | |http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~sb7421/ | Live for today, | | | pray for tomorrow... | |Steve Buck | | | | | |________________oOOo_ . ._oOOo_______|____o00o_(.) (.)_o00o______| | ~ \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 23:24:35 -0700 (MST) From: S E Pechin Subject: Suggestions for next cd? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Neil Cutler wrote: > I went to a local Music Store today to see if they had the album Banba by > Enya since I loved the music in Last of the Mohicans, I found all of the > albums you have been talking about, including a Christmas LP, anybody know > about this? but I also found one that did not have a name (that I could see > at least) the cover was all black with a picture of Enya (I assume) > kneeling down and had two dogs beside her (german shepard?) what album is > that? That album is Enya's first album. It is self titled. It is pretty good, but it is not as good as her subsequent albums. S.E.Pechin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:07:19 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Thanks guys !!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I would like to personally thank each and every one of you on the list who presents new groups that have "Enigma-like" sounds !! By following your suggestions, I purchased a CD by DAO DEZI and I LOVE IT !!!! There is not one song that I do not like !!! Tank Ya Lots !!! bdrake@globalvision.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:49:00 -0600 (CST) From: Christian Saborio Subject: Thanks guys !!! To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hey, do any of you guys know if there are any other Cd's by Enigma excluding the two worldwide known and the singles? sabor@ksu.ksu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:58:07 GMT From: larsg@oz.net (Lars Giusti) Subject: THE COLD LIGHT OF REASON To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello: I have read on the Enigma WWW site that there is talk of a possible One Time Concert being held somewhere in Europe in the years to come. Can anyone verify this? I would fly all the way from Seattle, Washington USA just to see it. Enigma is definately my favorite band. I also read on their web page that the new album (ENIGMA3) may be out soon. Any leads would be appreciated. By the way, my favorite song is: Mea Culpa Part 2 (Orthodox Version). Very best regards, Lars ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 20:22:30 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: THE COLD LIGHT OF REASON To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Lars. You wrote" > I have read on the Enigma WWW site that there is talk of a possible One Time > Concert being held somewhere in Europe in the years to come. Can anyone > verify this? I would fly all the way from Seattle, Washington USA just to > see it. Enigma is definately my favorite band. I also read on their web Well this information came from Michael Cretu himself, but he stressed that it is a POSSIBILITY he's considering. I wouldn't expect any confirmation until at least late 1996. Will you pay for my ticket too?! :) > page that the new album (ENIGMA3) may be out soon. Any leads would be > appreciated. By the way, my favorite song is: Mea Culpa Part 2 (Orthodox > Version). Enigma management told me recently that it is due in November 1996. Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:35:11 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Agresta Jr Subject: THE COLD LIGHT OF REASON To: Lars Giusti On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Lars Giusti wrote: > Hello: > > I have read on the Enigma WWW site that there is talk of a possible One Time > Concert being held somewhere in Europe in the years to come. Can anyone > verify this? I would fly all the way from Seattle, Washington USA just to > see it. Enigma is definately my favorite band. I also read on their web > page that the new album (ENIGMA3) may be out soon. Any leads would be > appreciated. By the way, my favorite song is: Mea Culpa Part 2 (Orthodox > Version). > > Very best regards, Lars > > I feel exactly the same way. I would travel from all the way over from North Bergen, New Jersey USA, to see them play. As a fan that I am, I'm saving for the trip now! As with the Enigma3 album, it should be out by around the fall of '96. You can find out all of this information and anything else your looking for on the Enigma web page. At any browser, type in enigma, and off you go. Carry on man...! :-) ******************************************* *** agresta@frontier.wilpaterson.edu *** ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 23:34:20 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: The Good, Bad, and Ugly To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all... I have some good news, some bad news, and some interesting news. Here goes: 1. Enigma management has stated that the only people who worked on MCMXC a.D. are Michael Cretu, Sandra, and Frank Peterson/F. Gregorian 2. The 1990s remixes of Maria Magdalena were done by Michael Cretu. The reason why it was re-released was so Michael could "try this good song again in the modern dance scene" 3. The more dance-like remixes from The Cross of Changes were done by Michael solely for remixes. In other words, it is not a style of music he plans on writing/performing on albums. 4. Enigma management refused to give any hint about Jens Gad's involvement in Enigma III. The "it's secret until April 1996" was the only reply I got. 5. Most of my Internet accounts run out today (November 30) meaning that it is going to be harder for me to maintain this list in the near future. I hope to announce a "helper" in the near future and for when I am in Europe. Please be patient with me - it may take a bit longer to approve things than in the past for the next few weeks. 6. For those looking for Dao Dezi, it's out through Capitol Records (in the U.S.) with reference CDP 7243 8 32635 2 3 Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:14:41 +0500 From: sb7421@acs.brockport.edu (Stephen Buck) Subject: The Scarlet Letter To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I recently saw the Scarlet Letter and was wondering when the Enigma song was played in the movie? I know that this was discussed before, but I couldn't remember what was said, and I didn't see it when everyone was talking about it. I thought perhaps it was in the credits, but it wasn't...was it mixed into the movie somewhere, and I was so into the movie that I missed the music, or was it only in the sound tract? Thanks!!! __________________________________________________________________ | | | |yippee!!! | | | | | | | | |http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~sb7421/ | Live for today, | | | pray for tomorrow... | |Steve Buck | | | | | |________________oOOo_ . ._oOOo_______|____o00o_(.) (.)_o00o______| | ~ \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:12:20 -0600 From: jpena@raven.benedictine.edu (JoAnna =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pe=F1a?= ) Subject: The Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I recently saw the Scarlet Letter and was wondering when the Enigma song wa= s >played in the movie? I know that this was discussed before, but I couldn't >remember what was said, and I didn't see it when everyone was talking about >it. I thought perhaps it was in the credits, but it wasn't...was it mixed >into the movie somewhere, and I was so into the movie that I missed the >music, or was it only in the sound tract? > >Thanks!!! > __________________________________________________________________ >| | | >|yippee!!! | | >| | | >| | | >|http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~sb7421/ | Live for today, | >| | pray for tomorrow... | >|Steve Buck | | >| | | >|________________oOOo_ . ._oOOo_______|____o00o_(.) (.)_o00o______| > | ~ > \____/ I heard that also. When I went to go see it I didn't hear the song. I would also like to know where it was in the movie. Thanks, JoAnna #1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1= #1 Colorado Buffs #1 JoAnna Pe=F1a jpena@benedictine.edu B.C. Box 343 1020 N. 2nd St. Atchison, Kansas 66002 1-913-367-5340 Ext: 5051 Colorado Buffs #1 #1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1 #1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 22:31:14 -0500 From: GolferDude@aol.com Subject: The Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Subject: The Scarlet Letter > >I recently saw the Scarlet Letter and was wondering when the Enigma song was >played in the movie? I know that this was discussed before, but I couldn't >remember what was said, and I didn't see it when everyone was talking about >it. I thought perhaps it was in the credits, but it wasn't...was it mixed >into the movie somewhere, and I was so into the movie that I missed the >music, or was it only in the sound tract? Unfortunately, no Enigma songs were part of the actual movie soundtrack. Enigma music was part of the trailers (previews) seen on TV. IMHO, however, the soundtrack for Scarlet Letter is excellent -- much better than the movie. But it's not "Enigma-like". It's a lush, romantic score by John Barry, composer of the film music for Out of Africa, Dances With Wolves, Somewhere in Time, etc., etc. ================================================= "For amateurs, the best wood in their bag is the pencil." - GolferDude ================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 09:40:12 +0100 From: ymthan@dial.eunet.ch (YE MIN THAN) Subject: The Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Golferdude wrote: >Unfortunately, no Enigma songs were part of the actual movie soundtrack. > Enigma music was part of the trailers (previews) seen on TV. IMHO, however, >the soundtrack for Scarlet Letter is excellent -- much better than the movie. > But it's not "Enigma-like". It's a lush, romantic score by John Barry, >composer of the film music for Out of Africa, Dances With Wolves, Somewhere >in Time, etc., etc. > >================================================= >"For amateurs, the best wood in their bag is the pencil." > >- GolferDude > >================================================= > > Enigma songs were in the film "SLIVER", Begining , the end and in the middle of the movie..... Ye Min Than ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:39:52 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: The Scarlet Letter To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy! Someone wrote: > Unfortunately, no Enigma songs were part of the actual movie soundtrack. > Enigma music was part of the trailers (previews) seen on TV. IMHO, however, > the soundtrack for Scarlet Letter is excellent -- much better than the movie. > But it's not "Enigma-like". It's a lush, romantic score by John Barry, > composer of the film music for Out of Africa, Dances With Wolves, Somewhere > in Time, etc., etc. I couldn't help responding to this letter. I recommended everyone to listen to John Barry's "Indecent Proposal" if they get the chance. His score to this movie (yes THAT movie with the million dollar SEX question!) is some of the best music of all time - it stirs emotions! If you like the quieter tracks of Enigma, you'll LOVE this score. Cheers, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:38:17 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: The Voice & The Snake To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I really don't think "The Voice & The Snake" is music at all. I find it to be a complete waste of 1:39 of CD space. That part of the CD could have been put to a much better use with another good song instead of the garbage being played. I feel that that song, if you can call it that, really ruined the beautiful flow of music that was occuring. Luckily, Cretu didn't put us through it again on "The Cross of Change" CD. Just my $.02 The always cheery and NEVER sarcastic or moody Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:20:12 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: The Voice & The Snake To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. Peter wrote: > I really don't think "The Voice & The Snake" is music at all. I find it > to be a complete waste of 1:39 of CD space. That part of the CD could > have been put to a much better use with another good song instead of the > garbage being played. I feel that that song, if you can call it that, > really ruined the beautiful flow of music that was occuring. Luckily, > Cretu didn't put us through it again on "The Cross of Change" CD. I've got to agree with this. I find it more of a distraction on the CD than a "filler" to one of my all time favourite tracks and make a habit of skipping it (actually my CD player is programmed to do it automatically! 8-]). While the intention of the track is obvious since its lyrics relate to "back to the Rivers of Belief" it just doesn't sound right on the album. As Peter said, Michael luckily put "Dream of the Dolphin" as the 'filler' track instead of something similar sounding to "The Voice and the Snake". Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:02:00 -0700 From: ssschool@ccinet.ab.ca (Paul R.) Subject: The Voice & The Snake To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, I was happily reading the daily mail, when I saw this: >2. I am shortly going to be hitting a dilemma. In 2-3 months I am going >to lose > all my email accounts. This will also result in the loss of this >mailing list and the Web page. MAN I really hope it doesn't happen!!!!!!!! Oh well, as for those of you who believe The Voice & The Snake is just mindless filler, should take a look at the whole picture of the CD! It tells a story of the wrong path and the right path of god (NO I AM NOT RELIGIOUS, this is just what a friend of mine tells me about the CD). The track "The Voice & The Snake" is supposed to depict the day of reckoning so it is supposed to be dark and dangerous. It also sounds kind of cool with the eerie way it fades in and out. Just my point of view... _______ |_______| |aul Roffel Canada Bill Jones' Motto: It's morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:20 PST From: ncutler@island.net (Neil Cutler) Subject: The Voice & The Snake To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >I really don't think "The Voice & The Snake" is music at all. I find it >to be a complete waste of 1:39 of CD space. That part of the CD could >have been put to a much better use with another good song instead of the >garbage being played. I feel that that song, if you can call it that, >really ruined the beautiful flow of music that was occuring. Luckily, >Cretu didn't put us through it again on "The Cross of Change" CD. > >Just my $.02 Same thought with me, I first thought that the Voice and the snake was also part of knocking on Forbidden doors, if it would have been part, then I think it would have been ok, but since it isn't, I do not believe that it should hav been included. :) (IMHO) |\ | |\/\/\/| ---\ | \ | | | //-__cd_/ /\( | \|eil Cutler | | ))( )___)__ | (o)(o) ||// | / email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| |\ | IRC Handle: LienClaw (Lien=Neil) | ,____| equestrian fan & rider Enigma fan & Mac techno geek himself! | / Mia, "Mia, do you see the "difference between a "I'll beat you someday, Marnie! you just wait" :) "carrot and my hand?" "***FLASH*** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with Battery" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 15:21:13 PST From: ken clouser Subject: Toyota CD-ROM To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au as many of us have said the tovota cd-rom with enigma music on it will take 2 weeks to deliver, but mine arived in just 3 days!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:12:14 -0600 (CST) From: Christian Saborio Subject: Trivia question To: enigma enigma OK, you think you know everything about Enigma, well tell me which is the only scene that is not going backwards in the Return To Innocence video? sabor@ksu.ksu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:54:16 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Agresta Jr Subject: Trivia question To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Christian Saborio wrote: > OK, you think you know everything about Enigma, well tell me which is the > only scene that is not going backwards in the Return To Innocence video? > > sabor@ksu.ksu.edu > > Good qustion. Hmmmmm... Let me guess... Is it right at the beginning where the little boy is holding the pear, and is looking up? Right after that, does the music start? **************************************** *** agresta@frontier.wilpaterson.edu *** **************************************** :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:18:43 -0800 From: hoklau@ix.netcom.com (HOK LAU ) Subject: Unauthorized CD ? To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi people, First I want to excuse me for my poor English. When I was back to L.A CAl. for my short vacation, I had found two CDs! First one is THE ULTIMATE OF GREGORIAN MYSTERIES made in Germany, marketing and distributor by MELODY RECORDS # MRCD-51725. 01. Hymn (6:01) 02. The rhythm (5:09) 03. Alleluia (5:44) 04. Ave Maria (4:59) 05. So sad (3:35) 06. Principles of lust/Sadness (3:35) 07. Beautiful (4:09) 08. Back to the river of belief (7:31) 09. Inquisitio (4:21) 10. Amen (7:11) 11. Sadness II/Rap Version (6:15) 12. Around The World (3:29) 13. Once in a lifetime (4:46) 14. La mer (3:33) This CD is a combination of MCMXC + sadisfaction + REAL SADNESS & OTHER GREGORIAN MYSTERIES + ?????. Second one is "Sandra super 20 new songs + greatest hits" # MRCD-228-617. 1. FADING SHADES (part I) 2. NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN 3. SON OF A TIME MACHINE 4. WON'T RUN AWAY 5. TELL ME MORE 6. WILL YOU WHISPER 7. INVISIBLE SHELTER 8. YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL 9. I NEED LOVE 10.FIRST LULLABY 11.FADING SHADES (part II) 12.LITTLE GIRL 13.CHANGE YOUR MIND 14.SEAL IT FOREVER 15.TWO LOVERS TONIGHT 16.YOU'LL BE MINE 17.HIROSHIMA 18.CRAZY JULIET 19.SISTERS AND BROTHERS 20.FADING SHADES (part III/the second day) All the FADING SHADES is only like one mintue long for each. I bought them for ten dollars each at Chinatown, I can't even believe myself I accidently found them at Chinatown, they have 2-4 more Sandra's album. BUT all the CDs seems like is FAKE, they don't have the REAL look and is in low quality, it just look cheap, the songs is fine. For ten dollars I think 100% worth it if you don't have some of the songs(except MCMXC a must). So are these are "REAL" or "UNDERGROUND" CDs? If you have any question or you lived in L.A and want to know where to buy it, go ahead and mail to me at hoklau@ix.netcom.com Bye all, thanks for taking the time to read my message! HOK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 22:49:55 +1100 (EST) From: Enigmatic Subject: Various Things To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. A lot of Enigma and personal things to discuss: 1. A lot of the problems of recent months have now been sorted out. Recently there have been problems with multiple-postings, not being able to unsubscrbe properly, unsubscribing yet still seeming to be subscribed, and so on. It has been identified that the server which this mailing list resides on formed a glitch 1-2 months ago. It has now been identified and repaired. I expect all problems to be gone in 1-2 days. Unfortunately this problem and its solution have been out of my hands throughout the whole time. 2. I am shortly going to be hitting a dilemma. In 2-3 months I am going to lose all my email accounts. This will also result in the loss of this mailing list and the Web page. I am currently looking at different options, but if there is anyone out there who is an Australian Internet provider, please contact me IMMEDIATELY! Don't fear yet everyone, I'll be doing my best to keep everything alive. 3. The Official Enigma web site got mentioned as being a "Pick of the Net" in an Australia-wide newspaper recently! Featured in "The Australian", a description of this site was given including some artists discussed and whose support it has. 4. In late December and all of January I will be in Europe! If the European members of this list can contact me with any clues/hints/etc. it'd be appreciated. Most importantly you may be able to offer exactly what I SHOULD see and SHOULDN'T see, where to stay (hostels), what to be careful of, etc.... I plan on being in each country no more than 2-3 days. You may even like to be my tour guide for a day or meet for a cup of coffee! 5. Many people have asked me where to get "Gregorian" from since I mentioned that I found it. For those interested, try emailing the record store I got it from at "gaslight@gaslight.com.au". And tell them that the president of the Enigma mailing list sent you - this way they may continue to realise the business they can generate in importing Enigma and related products! Hoping that you will all understand the importance of some of the more personal aspects of this message, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) *********************************************************************** ** e-mail: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ** ** WWW: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps ** ** ** ** ENIGMA WWW ** ** (Australiasia): http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~gps/Enigma.html ** ** (United States): http://www.spikes.com/enigma ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:14:12 -0600 From: english@galaxy.galstar.com (Jim English) Subject: Visions of Sadeness LD To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Has anyone purchased the below mentioned laserdisc? I haven't seen it at any stores or anytthing. -jim >Hi. > >I got a little more info on the release of the upcoming Enigma laser disc. Its >called "Visions of Sadeness" and is a rerelease of the limited, and extremely >hard to find, MCMXC laser disc that came out a few years back. U.S. release >date is September 31. From what I understand, the cover art will be different >but the track listing will be the same (and no poster in this one). I >preordered it for $59.99. It your interested, the place I ordered it from does >a mail order: Laser's Edge (309)888-4000 or fax (309)888-4004. I have no idea >if it will be released on video and I don't know what postage will cost you. >Just thought I'd pass the info along. > >MC > -- _____________________________________________________________________________ english@galaxy.galstar.com - Jim English "Oh great! You just shot the invisible swordsman!" -Three Amigos _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 16:23:34 MST From: schaffet@Colorado.EDU (Eric T. Schaffner) Subject: Voice and the Snake To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 05:00:36 +1100 you wrote: >>I feel that that song, if you can call it that, >>really ruined the beautiful flow of music that was occuring. Luckily, >>Cretu didn't put us through it again on "The Cross of Change" CD. I might disagree with this statement. I think that the Voice and the Snake added some contrast and texture into MCMXC a.D. In addition to giving the album more of a mystical twist, it was prime ambient composition, IMHO. As far as the "evil, frightening" lyrics, they also add a new dimention of spirituality to the album instead of the simple salvation-lust-belief themes. I don't see it as ruining the flow of music but simply guiding it upward. In contrast to Enigma, B-Tribe is extremely guilty of breaking up tracks with dead space. Take the track "Nadie Entiende" for example. B-Tribe builds up tension in the song and then stops everything for a 10 second sample of a stream running. Then they pick back up where they left off and IT DOES NOT WORK!!! Here, the intervening sample kills the continuity of the song, and ultimately that stop-start pattern kills the whole flow of the album. The Voice and the Snake, although not set to a beat, does keep the album flowing. It simply takes the music through a dark turn. >Same thought with me, I first thought that the Voice and the snake was also >part of knocking on Forbidden doors, if it would have been part, then I >think it would have been ok, but since it isn't, I do not believe that it >should hav been included. :) (IMHO) If I remember correctly, Cretu once said he wrote MCMXC a.D. to be one long song, so the whole notion of marking off tracks would be a moot point anyway. IMHO, I consider the Voice and the Snake to be part of knocking on forbidden doors anyway, rather than two seperate tracks. -Eric ___________________________________________________________ Eric T. Schaffner Mail: schaffet@Colorado.EDU MCD Biology, University of Colorado, Boulder "Sade, es-tu diabolique, ou divin?" -CMC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:46 EST From: John Galley <0006725482@mcimail.com> Subject: What does this mean To: Enigma -- [ From: John Galley * EMC.Ver #2.03 ] -- I don't have the inside scoop on the phrases "in every colour there's the light ...in every stone sleeps the crystal," but I have found meaning in it that I would like to share. When I hear it, I think about the variety of people in the world..there is an awesome show of different colors and hues within the colors (applying the analogy of colors to people). It reminds me that no matter how different our colors, there is a harmonizing force among us all. We all need the light, the same light is in all of us, a singular, powerful force, that I personally liken to a Godsource, or whatever you want to call it. The second part of the phrase reminds me of the potential within all individuals to become something magnificent and beautiful. call me a dreamer, but I believe people will show themselves as crystals once they begin to stir and wake up from the illusion of life. we are more than what we have been told as children and more than what we see on tv. I have'nt been able to figure it out yet but I do believe that much. the Shaman apparently suggests that "man is the dream of the dolphin." I haven't talked to any Shaman's lately so I really don't know their insights on the relationship between the dolphin and man. But I bet they (dolphins...well Shamans too for that matter) could show us a thing or two about how to live in harmony and transform ourselves to display our own magnificence. -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > Date: Sunday, 05-Nov-95 05:28 AM > > From: Enigma \ Internet: > (enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au) > To: John Galley \ MCI Mail: (jgalley / MCI ID: 672-5482) > > Subject: Re: What does this mean > > On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Neil Cutler wrote: > > > In the song Man is the dream of the dolphin, in the Album Cross of > Changes, > > there's the part that says, in every colour there's the light, in every > > stone sleeps a crystal. I've been trying to figure out what this means, > > since I'm a guy that loves a mystery to solve. Does anyone know? (I've > read > > the FAQ about what the shamen but it does not say anything about the > colour > > and stone) > > > > |\ | |\/\/\/| > > | \ | | | > > | \|eil Cutler | | > > | (o)(o) > > email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| > > | ,____| > > enigma fan | / > > > > "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." > > > > > > > I think he is trying to say that there is something precious in all of us > > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 02:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Dixon Subject: What does this mean To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The part about "remember the shaman when he used ot say, Man is the dream of the dolphin"' is a bout how some people believe we evolved from dolphins insted of apes... Meaning that doplhins look at man, and wish they could survive like them on land... Cant remember where i heard it but it must have been PBS... LAter all, Alex On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, John Galley wrote: > -- [ From: John Galley * EMC.Ver #2.03 ] -- > > I don't have the inside scoop on the phrases "in every colour there's the > light ...in every stone sleeps the crystal," but I have found meaning in it > that I would like to share. When I hear it, I think about the variety of > people in the world..there is an awesome show of different colors and hues > within the colors (applying the analogy of colors to people). It reminds me > that no matter how different our colors, there is a harmonizing force among > us all. We all need the light, the same light is in all of us, a singular, > powerful force, that I personally liken to a Godsource, or whatever you > want to call it. > > The second part of the phrase reminds me of the potential within all > individuals to become something magnificent and beautiful. call me a > dreamer, but I believe people will show themselves as crystals once they > begin to stir and wake up from the illusion of life. we are more than what > we have been told as children and more than what we see on tv. I have'nt > been able to figure it out yet but I do believe that much. > > the Shaman apparently suggests that "man is the dream of the dolphin." I > haven't talked to any Shaman's lately so I really don't know their insights > on the relationship between the dolphin and man. But I bet they > (dolphins...well Shamans too for that matter) could show us a thing or two > about how to live in harmony and transform ourselves to display our own > magnificence. > > > -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > > > Date: Sunday, 05-Nov-95 05:28 AM > > > > From: Enigma \ Internet: > > (enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au) > > To: John Galley \ MCI Mail: (jgalley / MCI ID: 672-5482) > > > > Subject: Re: What does this mean > > > > On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Neil Cutler wrote: > > > > > In the song Man is the dream of the dolphin, in the Album Cross of > > Changes, > > > there's the part that says, in every colour there's the light, in every > > > stone sleeps a crystal. I've been trying to figure out what this means, > > > since I'm a guy that loves a mystery to solve. Does anyone know? (I've > > read > > > the FAQ about what the shamen but it does not say anything about the > > colour > > > and stone) > > > > > > |\ | |\/\/\/| > > > | \ | | | > > > | \|eil Cutler | | > > > | (o)(o) > > > email:ncutler@duncan.island.net C _)| > > > | ,____| > > > enigma fan | / > > > > > > "So I called the wrong phone number, But you picked it up." > > > > > > > > > > > I think he is trying to say that there is something precious in all of us > > > > > > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Philip Jon Shipley" Subject: What Enigma is to me To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Delpha) O.k., I've read about a billion messages about what Enigma means to people, how it has affected many lives, how many people have fallen for it. I thought that I'd write what Enigma is to me. Ever since I can remember having a concept of Enigma, it has always taken me away somewhere deep inside of my being that I've failed to recognize within myself. Enigma brings emotions to the surface of my existance that are so foreign and new each and ever time I hear "sadeness" or "i love you, i'll kill you" or any piece by Enigma. I get tingly, I'll zone out sometimes, flying with the mezmorzing beats, becomming the passion that Enigma suggests to me. There have been times when I've cried listening to Enigma, tears flowing from my eyes, soaking my face, and never have I been able to place exactly what I was feeling. I've never felt this way through any other means. Sex doesn't do it, drugs never have done it, nothing has ever brought me to the heights and valleys that this music brings to me. there are times when I need to be secluded from society, each and every enigma disc I own in a random shuffle, writing poetry, sketching, creating whatever I can. It is mystic, it is beautiful, it is something real that I have to lean on when nothing else makes me happy anymore. the first time i heard enigma i remember how angry i got at the people around me who were making so much noise. I wanted to HEAR it, and i found myself with my ear next to a loudspeaker. Even then, i didn't find out who had performed sadeness part 1 until the next time i heard Enigma, unfortunately it was on the radio, and then the "project" was revealed to me. I know that I'm not the only one out there who truely thrives on what enigma has to offer. At times I know that the music has changed my life from one of frivilous beliefs, to one of understanding and compasssion. i've developed because of this music, i've become an emotional and unyielding person because of enigma. i feel as though now, i'd be lost without it. I know that sounds a bit overboard, but i can find no other tangible way to express these thoughts. enigma has practicaly been rooted inside of me where i've NEEDED to be touched. because of this i've learned to lend my love to other people, learned to assocoate with humanity better than ever before. Basically boosted my grades higher than they've ever been before, both in my closing years of highschool and my middle years here at Michigan State University. enigma created a new light, a new hope, a vivid dream that pieced my soul back into something i could appreciate and recognize, and be proud of. aside from the spiritual revelations, enigma has influenced several of my closest friends... for some the music is purely sexual. to an extent i agree, enigma has always been very intimate for me, and with the women who have experienced it with me. for others, enigma is simply "good", and that is good in itself. and yet still others have said enigma is only o.k.. i agree with them all, enigma is everything anyone wants it to be. it is very subjective to a vast array of experiences. i hope you all enjoyed this little article i wrote here. if you wanna comment, please do it personally ---> shipley4@pilot.msu.edu peace to all, the candles will burn eternally Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:00:13 -0600 (CST) From: "\"Lamar James Romero\"" Subject: What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? (fwd) To: Enigma Fan Club Is this the same "SADE" who wrote "Sweetest Taboo" and "Smooth Operator"?? Lamar James was wondering where he could find the music of "SADE"? At any music/CD store. Sade is a popular R&B/Adult contemporary band and has I think 5 or 6 CDs out. My favorite CD's are "Stronger than Pride" and "Love Deluxe." SADE also had a concert that was aired on PBS during their pledge drives about a year ago. The video is great. I watch it at least once a week. If you have the opportuntiy to get this video, get it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 19:40:38 -0500 (CDT) From: geispc27@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: What is your favorite musical element of Enigma? (fwd) To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, "Lamar James Romero" wrote: > > Is this the same "SADE" who wrote "Sweetest Taboo" and "Smooth Operator"?? > > > Lamar James was wondering where he could find the music of "SADE"? At > any music/CD store. Sade is a popular R&B/Adult contemporary band and > has I think 5 or 6 CDs out. My favorite CD's are "Stronger than Pride" > and "Love Deluxe." SADE also had a concert that was aired on PBS during > their pledge drives about a year ago. The video is great. I watch it at > least once a week. If you have the opportuntiy to get this video, get it! Yes, same band/group/artist. Pete Geisheker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:04:30 +0500 From: bdrake@n1.globalvision.net Subject: Writing in a STATE OF ENIGMA To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I LOOK BACK UPON THE TRAIL OF LONELINESS THAT STRETCHES FAR BEHIND ME. IT BECKONS ME TO RETURN, BUT I CANNOT. I HAVE A JOURNEY TO COMPLETE. A JOURNEY, LED BY MY INDIAN FATHER WHO CALLS FOR ME IN MY NATIVE TONGUE. THE TRAIL OF FOOTSTEPS THAT ONCE FOLLOWED ME HAVE NOW MELTED INTO THE GROUND...LEAVING NO TRACE OF MY EXISTENCE. NEVERTHELESS, I CONTINUE...I CONTINUE MY TREK, MY JOURNEY, MY RETURN TO INNOCENCE. ------------------------------ End of Enigma Digest ******************************