Enigma Digest October 1994 Volume 1 : Issue 10 Administrivia 'Limited' Cross of Changes discussion (2 msgs) (2 msgs) AOL picture disc (4 msgs) CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) (5 msgs) Carly Mania Cold Scandinavia commercial (fwd) Deep Forest Delayed intro (2 msgs) Delerium Delerium information. EMI Australia (2 msgs) Enigma: Videos Part I (4 msgs) FAQ - samples (2 msgs) For Australians eyes only FTP sites (2 msgs) Good day, eh! Hello hello out there help get recording of upcoming MM spotlight hey, i have some questions Hi Guys! (10 msgs) HOLOGRAM ISSUES (2 msgs) IDM list welcome msg I Love You... I'll Kill you ;) (2 msgs) Intro. Introduction from new member Limited Edition album confirmed (4 msgs) Limited in the US (2 msgs) Me. Mea Culpa/Eyes of Truth (3 msgs) MM SPOTLIGHT: Oct01-07 muchmusic (8 msgs) MuchMusic videotape (3 msgs) musical interests My Homework NEEDED: Opinions on possible release (3 msgs) New Introductory Message New Member New release date for album One A.D. One AD (2 msgs) Sandra - Paintings In Yellow (2 msgs) SpotLight videos in the US ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 17:27:02 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: Administrivia To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The message archive for September is now available at yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, as enigma0994.txt.Z in the directory /listserv/enigma/Enigma/archives. The members list is: 84 edu US educational domain 45 com US commercial domain 9 net Net domain 8 au Australia 6 ca Canada 6 se Sweden 4 org Organisational domain 4 uk United Kingdom 2 nl Netherlands 2 no Norway 2 nz New Zealand 2 sg Singapore 1 de Germany 1 dk Denmark 1 gov US governmental domain 1 hk Hong Kong 1 hu Hungary 1 ie Ireland 1 is Iceland 1 jp Japan 1 kr South Korea 1 mx Mexico 1 si Slovenia 1 su Russia 1 za South Africa A total of 187 members, of which 71 are in digest mode Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 12:10:48 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: 'Limited' Cross of Changes discussion To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. After Joar's great news about the release of a limited edition of "The CROSS of Changes", I thought I'd make some comments, particularly about where and when I expected it to be released: From the information I have gathered so far, it seems that the record companies are working on this release exactly the same way as they did for MCMXC a.D. I say this because: 1. It is being released in Europe at roughly the same time of the year as it was for MCMXC a.D. 2. It will have special packaging in Europe, just as MCMXC a.D. did (hologram cover) 3. Virgin Germany decide what Enigma products are released. Generally when Germany releases something, Europe, UK, and Australia take it up. In the US, it's another story - they seem to decide themselves. Based on these facts, I think the following release dates are expected (I stress that these are NOT official, just my gut feelings!): UK: Late November/Early December (I was advised from someone at Virgin UK a few weeks ago that they were considering a limited edition release around this time. With Germany releasing it, it will definitely be released here) Australia: Mid-December OR January (Releases have appeared earlier in Australia after their release in Europe for the new album & its singles, so it may be rushed to Australia in time for Christmas. But if the UK releases it, Australia will definitely get it). US: Sorry, but I doubt its release based on lack of airplay, bad results for all singles except "Return to Innocence", and the track record of MCMXC a.D. Anyway, I am glad to see that new remixes will be on the album and I am hopeful that the CD is filled with 75+ minutes of glorious Enigma songs! :) Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:24:15 -500 (EDT) From: Dutch Subject: 'Limited' Cross of Changes discussion To: ENIGMA Distribution List AHAHRRAHAHAH...NOOOOO I want this Limited Edition!!! I live in the wonderful U.S. but it's times like these that make me really hate U.S. commercial radio. We are so locked into the old fashioned pop and new alternative crap that we can't bust techno or that "Enigma" genre. Man...does anyone even THINK that any place would be able to order it here in the U.S.? Howz about the internet cd sites in the U.K.? Can anyone answer my prayers...hey..wait.....MY PARENTS ARE TRAVELING TO EUROPE IN FEBRUARY!!!! Think they might be able to get a copy...yes..I am rembling and thanks for reading this far. Chris Brown WLHU 90.3 Toxic Radio Techno Music Director ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:25:16 +1000 (+1000) From: Panayiotis Panayi Subject: To: ENIGMA Distribution List Has anyone heard of a CD which has been out for a while called "The Mask and the Mirror" by ..... McKillot. It is absolutly fabulous. any of you that like Enya, will love this woman. She has a Celtic/Spanish/Arabic flavor. Any takers? Meph. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 12:58 -0500 (EST) From: fogelincc@pt.Cyanamid.COM Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au >Has anyone heard of a CD which has been out for a while called >"The Mask and the Mirror" by ..... McKillot. You're talking about Loreena McKennitt's most recent album. Carl (fogelincc@pt.cyanamid.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:55:06 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: AOL picture disc To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au For the latest single release, a picture disc was issued, and this is, as far I know, a first for Enigma. The picture is naturally the one featured on the regular cover, and works well as a circular. The PD seems to have been released in the UK, but has appeared in Sweden as well, so it might just be found in other European countries too. As for other Age Of Loneliness releases, there is rumoured to exist a one track promo featuring a remix by The Grid. Does anyone know something about this? Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: AOL picture disc To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Tue, 4 Oct 1994, Joar Grimstvedt wrote: > For the latest single release, a picture disc was issued, and this is, > as far I know, a first for Enigma. The picture is naturally the one > featured on the regular cover, and works well as a circular. > > The PD seems to have been released in the UK, but has appeared in > Sweden as well, so it might just be found in other European countries > too. For those interested in this PD, try the following: B&C Connection (609) 697-2298 Enigma - Age Of Loneliness UK 12" picture disc 2 versions of song $7.99 Of course, I suggest you try your local record store first, so you can avoid any extra shipping charges. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu . In the washing of the water http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html . will you take it all away . And Through The Wire - a Peter Gabriel WWW page . Bring me something URL: http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/pg.html . to take this pain away ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:40:05 -0400 From: jolt@tiac.net (Holt Lipman) Subject: AOL picture disc To: ENIGMA Distribution List >As for other Age Of Loneliness releases, there is rumoured to exist a >one track promo featuring a remix by The Grid. Does anyone know >something about this? Having worked in radio for many years, in Boston, I believe there is one. I have seen a few different promo CD's come in to the station, and that may have been one. Joltergeist Team-OS/2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 14:18:23 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: AOL picture disc To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 5, 9:40am, Holt Lipman wrote: > >As for other Age Of Loneliness releases, there is rumoured to exist a > >one track promo featuring a remix by The Grid. Does anyone know > >something about this? > > Having worked in radio for many years, in Boston, I believe there is one. I > have seen a few different promo CD's come in to the station, and that may > have been one. You wouldn't happen to know this? Have you heard it? It would be great with some details of this release! Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 16:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Shadowfax Subject: CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Could someone who already has the Jam and Spoon remix of Carly's song + Age of loneliness e-mail me a brief review of it? Thanks.. I am thinking of buying the above 2 cd singles and just wanted to know how the J&S remixes were? They did some remixing for the Pet Shop Boys and it was darn good.. Thanks again .. Shan -- It was absolutely fabulous the way one thing led to another. He was the man who had everything and ironically when they first met she thought he was from outer space.She may have been forever in love with his KDX 125, but she never could ride it'cause whenever she tried to, her head would start spinning.-PSB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 07:18:45 EDT From: gturnq01@eng.eds.com (Gary Turnquist) Subject: CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Group: I just picked up a promo disk on the best of ambient. The cd is called "One AC" (the C is actually backwards, but I don't have the character set to represent it). The reason I want to talk about this is because cut 6 and 9 sound a great deal like Engima. The cuts are by a group called "A Positive Life" and "Banco De Baia" (Bobby Byrd was mentioned in the title). Was I just imagining this or are these real groups. Gary T. _ _ <@ @> +------------------oOO----(_)----------------------------+ | Knowledge is built on theory. The theory of knowledge | | teaches us that a statement, if it conveys knowledge, | | predicts future outcome, with risk of being wrong, and | | that it fits without failure observations of the past | | W. Edward Deming | |________________________________________________________| +-------------------------+ | Gary Turnquist | | EDS Corporation | | 750 Tower Troy, MI | +------------------oOO----+ \| |__|__| |/ || || ooO Ooo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 14:30:42 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 10, 7:18am, Gary Turnquist wrote: > I just picked up a promo disk on the best of ambient. The cd is called "One AC" (the > C is actually backwards, but I don't have the character set to represent it). > The reason I want to talk about this is because cut 6 and 9 sound a great deal like > Engima. The cuts are by a group called "A Positive Life" and "Banco De Baia" (Bobby > Byrd was mentioned in the title). Was I just imagining this or are these real groups. APL, or A Positive Life, is sampled on The CROSS Of Changes. Therefore you may recognise elements of theirs in Enigma's music. According to the FAQ the swirling voice at the beginning of 'Out From The Deep' is taken from APL's album, The Calling. Are there specific sounds or sections on APL's song that are used on Enigma's album? Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 13:29:56 EDT From: gturnq01@eng.eds.com (Gary Turnquist) Subject: CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Joar: I'm not sure of your question, but that's not unusual for me. The cuts on One AC (6, 9 and the last one) are not Enigma songs, but the voices and background are so similiar that I took the time to read the albumn cover to see if it was. That's why I took a closer look at the CD to see what it was. Again it is a promo ambient (best of ambient music) and no where did I see Enigma, or whats his face and wife mentioned. Gary T ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From enigma-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Mon Oct 10 12:16:15 1994 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.2 3/26/91) To: ENIGMA Distribution List Subject: Re: CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) Reply-To: ENIGMA Distribution List X-Sequence: 528 Content-Length: 1100 X-Lines: 24 On Oct 10, 7:18am, Gary Turnquist wrote: > I just picked up a promo disk on the best of ambient. The cd is called "One AC" (the > C is actually backwards, but I don't have the character set to represent it). > The reason I want to talk about this is because cut 6 and 9 sound a great deal like > Engima. The cuts are by a group called "A Positive Life" and "Banco De Baia" (Bobby > Byrd was mentioned in the title). Was I just imagining this or are these real groups. APL, or A Positive Life, is sampled on The CROSS Of Changes. Therefore you may recognise elements of theirs in Enigma's music. According to the FAQ the swirling voice at the beginning of 'Out From The Deep' is taken from APL's album, The Calling. Are there specific sounds or sections on APL's song that are used on Enigma's album? Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ----- End Included Message ----- _ _ <@ @> +------------------oOO----(_)----------------------------+ | Knowledge is built on theory. The theory of knowledge | | teaches us that a statement, if it conveys knowledge, | | predicts future outcome, with risk of being wrong, and | | that it fits without failure observations of the past | | W. Edward Deming | |________________________________________________________| +-------------------------+ | Gary Turnquist | | EDS Corporation | | 750 Tower Troy, MI | +------------------oOO----+ \| |__|__| |/ || || ooO Ooo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 13:57:00 -0400 From: "Steve Roussos" Subject: CARLY"S SONG (AGE OF LONELINESS) To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 10, 7:18am, Gary Turnquist wrote: > I just picked up a promo disk on the best of ambient. The cd is called "One > AC" (the > C is actually backwards, but I don't have the character set to represent it). > The reason I want to talk about this is because cut 6 and 9 sound a great deal > like > Engima. The cuts are by a group called "A Positive Life" and "Banco De Baia" > (Bobby > Byrd was mentioned in the title). Was I just imagining this or are these real > groups. I believe that the compliation to which you are refering if "One A.D." on Waveform Records. It has the subtitle "Ambient Dub", hence the"A.D." This is an INCREDIBLE record, and I am sure all Enigma fans would like it. I bought it used for $5 several months ago, not knowing anything about it, thinking "Hmmm, 'ambient dub'...sounds interseting." Well, it didn't make it out of my CD-player & car-tape-deck for about a month! The cuts are all quite unique and beautiful; they are all beat-oriented but at the same time have a very floaty, atmospheric, ecstaic feel to them. CHECK IT OUT! There are a number of other "Ambient Dub" compilation records out there, and I have heard that they are all quite good...this is one style of music that I just love, and most Enigmi-ites almost certainly will, too. There is an e-mail list that discusses this and other styles of music which I have found to be extremely informative, and that I think the folks on this list would probably get alot out of. It is called the "Intelligent Dance Music" list. I'll forward the welcome message to that list shortly. Bye! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Steve Roussos (steven.roussos@sdrc.com) /* views expressed are mine alone */| |"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of| | tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson,1800,to derisive clergymen| | [engraved on the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C.] | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 23:27:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Shadowfax Subject: Carly Mania To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well I just have to tell everyone this, even though it's quite trivial.. I got the enigma pictures from the ftp site and made the Carly's Song Gif (Sharon Stone) file my desktop picture. I then recorded the first ten secs of "Carly's Song" (not exactly the first ten..but when you hear the "aaahhhhhhhhhhaaaaa" It's quite cool. I then made that sound my startup sound.. so as soon as the computer starts and the Sharon Stone picture comes up, that music plays.. it' soo cool!! Shan -- It was absolutely fabulous the way one thing led to another. He was the man who had everything and ironically when they first met she thought he was from outer space.She may have been forever in love with his KDX 125, but she never could ride it'cause whenever she tried to, her head would start spinning.-PSB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:59:01 MET From: martin@axis.se (Martin Gren) Subject: Cold Scandinavia To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au At Oct 28, joarg@hsr.no writes: > > Her debut single "Maria Magdalena" decisively influenced this > development; having been the insider club hit for months it > finally cast off its camouflage mac in 1985 and became the > international summer hit. After this pulsating rhythm had > conquered the countries around the Mediterranean it spread > across the Continent and even found passionate fans in cool > Scandinavia. "Maria Magdalena" achieved a quadruple platinum > status in Sweden alone and thus became Sweden's biggest seller > ever - Sandra outsold the Beatles and their legendary national > act ABBA with this hit. Well, coming from the cold Scandinavia (!? - in my part we haven't had snow for 10 years) I do like to make a correction: The number one seller ever in Sweden was from a group called Freestyle called "I mörkret med dig" (I want you in the darkness with me). It's about teenage sex and the singer made the song (it's belived) in a few hours using dirt-cheap synthesisers back in 1981. Why is it of interest to the Enigma mailing list ? The guy has kept on making songs comparable to some of the Enigma recordings. What's the catch ? It only in Swedish... The day he gets proper marketing and starts doing the lyrics in the worlds greatest language I bet we find another Ace of Base. His name is Christer Sandelin BTW - the original Freestyle band broke up. I think he was around 17 when he made the famous song. / Martin -- Martin Gren, Axis Technologies AB email: martin@axis.se S - 223 70 LUND, SWEDEN Tel:+46 46 19 18 38 Fax:+46 46 13 61 30 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 13:15:46 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: commercial (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day. This came from an ex-member of the list: Forwarded message: > From perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu Thu Oct 27 12:46:32 1994 > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 21:43:14 CDT > From: perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu (Daniel Perry ) > Message-Id: <9410270243.AA11881@sol.acs.uwosh.edu> > To: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Subject: commercial > > Hi, Gavin. I don't know if you remember me, but I used to subscribe to the > list, but had to drop due to the volume of mail I was getting from the various > maillists I was subscribed to. Anyway, I was hoping you could mention something > to the group for me. While watching TV tonight, I saw a commercial for the > American car "Buick", and I noticed that the music was very smoothe and lilting. > I then noticed that things were going backwards... What a horrendous rip-off > of the Return to Innocence video! The music was not Enigma, it must have been > composed and performed by a few freaks at Buick, but I was quite enfuriated, > and I was wondering if anyone else saw this. It was on during the show "Ellen", > 8:30 p.m. CST (in America). I have it on tape, fortunately or unfortunately I > don't know. It was just so cheesy. Oh well. I just thought people might like > to hear about this. > > Seeya > > Dan Perry > perryda@ceres.acs.uwosh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:14:37 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Deep Forest To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au While I'm on the roll with the constipated Cretu comment ;), I might just say that I think Deep Forest is a very poor parodyof Enigma. In fact, I even find it irritating that people lump Enigma and DF together: I don't think you can compare them at all. Nup, I like Enigma much better: clean, unadulterated, and musically uplifting. -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 09:47 -0500 (EST) From: fogelincc@pt.Cyanamid.COM Subject: Delayed intro To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello all, With the recent surge of people introducing themselves, I figured I should give up my "somewhat" lurker status and join the crowd. My name is Carl Fogelin and I'm a programmer/analyst for American Cyanamid. (Yes, I'm one of those people working in the commercial sector on this list.) FWIW: I'm 36 years old. While I remember hearing some Enigma songs on the radio, it wasn't until someone recommended the group to me (the person told me Enigma was like Dead Can Dance) that I actually bought an album. I own both Cross of Changes (which I like the best) and MCDX?? (sorry, CD is at home), plus the single with those different mixes -- I like Spoon and Jam the best. As to other artists I like, my list is large and varied. I like Celtic Folk (Clannad, Silly Wizard, etc), Fusion Jazz (Pat Methany, Rippingtons, Accoustic Alchemy, etc), New Age (Vangelis, Lanz & Speir, etc), as well as Rock (Yes, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Stone Temple Pilots, CSN, etc), and a lot of other things between and around. (It's usually much easier for me to tell people what I don't like. ;) There's a certain "feeling" that Enigma invokes in me that I find very fascinating, a sound that other groups include in a song, but Enigma seems to focus on. It's hard for me to explain, but it sweeps me along when I hear it. That's probably the main reason I like Enigma. (In case you're curios, other songs/musicians that invoke this "feeling" for me are: Deep Forrest, Jonathan Elias' "Requiem for the Americas, Songs from the Lost World", some of Joe Jackson's "Blaze of Glory", some songs from Dead Can Dance, some songs by Enya and her family's band: Clannad. I wish I could describe it better.) Well, if that doesn't into me, I don't know what else will. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Up the long ladder and down the short rope, To Hell with King Billy and God bless the Pope. -- traditional ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 21:01:12 -0400 From: "MacKay" Subject: Delayed intro To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Sun, 16 Oct 1994 09:47 -0500 (EST), fogelincc@pt.Cyanamid.COM wrote: >I own both Cross of Changes (which I like the best) and MCDX?? >(sorry, CD is at home), plus the single with those different mixes -- I >like Spoon and Jam the best. Nice to finally run into someone who likes COC the most. That would seem to be a rarity. (I seem to have become an accidental proponent of it) >There's a certain "feeling" that Enigma invokes in me that I find very >fascinating, a sound that other groups include in a song, but Enigma seems >to focus on. That feeling, is what keeps me coming back to Enigma, makes them/him my favorite group/project. :) The music is so wonderfully uplifting, soothing and mysterious, although that last is mostly found on MCMXC a.D. Some people have said that makes a wonderful background for meditation. I can't quite vouch for that, but I can imagine that it's true. ---- Joseph MacKay Bedford, N.S. ...................... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 10:02:52 BST From: ukctraj@ukpmr.cs.philips.nl (Richard Travett) Subject: Delerium To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Folks, I went shopping on Saturday, and decided to look for the Delerium album 'Semantic Spaces'. Unfortunately none of the record shops knew about it. They had several others listed, but not this one. Is it therefore not available here in the UK I wonder? Could whoever recommended it, let me (or the list) know where you were in the world, and whether you have any other Delerium Albums, and if so, are they worth checking out as well! I bought the Deep Forest album some weeks back, after it was mentioned here, and that is great! In fact its hardly been out of the CD player! So there is a recommendation for that one! Thanks in advance. Regards, Richard Travett, Email: ukctraj@ukpmr.cs.philips.nl May all your communications be free from electro-magnetic disturbances, and your days be free from temporal distortions in the time space continuum ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 94 1:04:45 EDT From: mathias@tarkus.ocis.temple.edu (mathias thallmayer) Subject: Delerium information. To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mail List) In regards to Delerium, I would not recommend any of their other works to the Enigma list. Not that the material is bad, but it is not Enigma-like with the exception of "Semantic Spaces". Also, my collection is in disarray at the moment and I cannot easily access my older Delerium discs (I would like to hear them again myself), but as I recall, they were pretty much on the mimimal/ambient side. Anyway, I am including a discography at the end of this message that was recently posted to the New Age group in regards to this same discussion. INFO on Delerium's latest, "Semantic Spaces": Delerium "Semantic Spaces" Nettwerk W2-30092 Manufactured and Marketed by Nettwerk Productions Box 330-1755 Robson St. Vancouver, B.C. Canada V6G 3B7 Tel: (604) 654-1993 E-Mail: nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca Nettwerk Electronic BBS: (604) 731-7007 As you can see, this CD was made in Canada. I bought my copy in the USA (Philadelphia, PA). If this info doesn't help your local store find a copy, contact Nettwerk through one of the above channels. Here is the Delerium discography as was posted with some minor trimming of the header info. Be warned that the attributions are confusing. ___________________________________________________________________________ From: d93jp@efd.lth.se (Joergen Persson) Subject: Re: Delerium- enigmalike?? Date: 2 Oct 1994 20:20:43 GMT Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden In article , rwilson@nbnet.nb.ca (Rob Wilson) found Delerium.... As mathias@tarkus.ocis.temple.edu (mathias thallmayer) wrote Delerium in _ONE_ of FLA's sideproject... but they've done more under the name of Delerium. This is a neat discography written by zeigler@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Tim Zeigler) : Faces, Forms, & Illusions (1989) - includes a bit of everything, from dark sweeping synth textures to ominous sequenced beats and rhythms -- some chanting and voices for added effect. Morpheous (1989) - harder, rougher, and more beat-oriented than the rest -- some compare it to early FLA, although I find it more abrasive and encompassing. Syrophenikan (1990) - dominated by medieval rhythms and ritual -- ominous & mystic, but without any signs of Enigma :-) Euphoric (1991) - 4-song EP with 2 less-than-thrilling, beat-oriented tracks and 2 great soundscapes -- a good start for the budget-minded I suppose. Stone Tower (1991) - brooding, organic sound sculptures bleeding over thunderous beats -- a real treat and perhaps as close as you'll get to _Spheres_. Spiritual Archives (1991) - quieter, more ambient side of Delerium -- pretty diverse use of sounds and still dark, but not enough to scare you at night...well, maybe. Though... he forgot the following : 1994- Spheres 1 &2 - Dossier (slow, dark, almost no beat) 1994- Semantic Spaces (you've heard about this one) You can find this and much more at their URL http://www.wimsey.com/nettwerk/del/delerium_index.html Enjoy Joergen Persson - A.K.A. Dsoul8 -------------------------------| "Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes"| mail : d93jp@efd.lth.se - Juvenalis | URL : http://www.efd.lth.se/~d93jp/ URL-HomePage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 22:40:23 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: EMI Australia To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day to you all. I was pleased today to receive a parcel from EMI Australia thanking me for giving them my FAQ, as well as sending me a promo version of the Australian version of "Age of Loneliness" (same tracks as all other standard releases) and the 12" picture vinyl of "Age of Loneliness" which will never be released in this country. The details of the latter are as follows: Virgin 8-92525-0 DINST135 Side A: Age of Loneliness (Enigmatic Club Mix) 6.23 Side B: Age of Loneliness (Jam & Spoon Remix) 6.28 Side A Picture: The main picture from the CD packaging of the single, but with a proportion of it chopped off (it doesn't look like a poster) and a seeming zoom on the main male figure. The title is at the lower of the picture and looks the same as for the CD packaging. Side B Picture: Same as that on the physical CD with the track listing and barcode layered over it. Much more is blocked on the CD than on the 12". Speed: 45rpm My thanks of course go to EMI Australia for sending me those items. Joar, can you confirm this as the same item referred to a few weeks ago as perhaps only being released in the UK? (The 12" is made in the UK). Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:23:57 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: EMI Australia To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 14, 10:40pm, Gavin Stok wrote: > Side A: Age of Loneliness (Enigmatic Club Mix) 6.23 > Side B: Age of Loneliness (Jam & Spoon Remix) 6.28 > > Side A Picture: The main picture from the CD packaging of the single, but with > a proportion of it chopped off (it doesn't look like a poster) > and a seeming zoom on the main male figure. The title is at the > lower of the picture and looks the same as for the CD packaging. > Side B Picture: Same as that on the physical CD with the track listing and > barcode layered over it. Much more is blocked on the CD than > on the 12". > > Speed: 45rpm > > > My thanks of course go to EMI Australia for sending me those items. Joar, can > you confirm this as the same item referred to a few weeks ago as perhaps only > being released in the UK? (The 12" is made in the UK). The description matches the one I've seen (I've only seen it pictured in a mail order catalogue). The mail order company is Norwegian, but they draw from releases in Sweden. My guess is that their PD is an import, so that the PD was released publically only in the UK. In the UK, many releases are pressed on picture discs. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 15:38:07 CDT From: Jim English Subject: Enigma: Videos Part I To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey I finally managed to snag this video. I was under the impression that it was all 4 video's off MCMXC, but it is only the first two. Where can I get (if it exists) Videos Part II? Also What mix is the Mea Culpa on the video? And again I ask if anyone could tell me where to buy the full Enigma video. If I can get a legit copy, I'm fairly sure I can find a place here in the US to copy it to NTSC format, but I have no doubt I would need an original copy. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu (Geek Code 2.0): GCS/MU d--(----) h+ s:- g+ p? au+ a- w++@ v? C++ UH+++ P? L- 3- N+++ K- W+ M-- V- -po+ Y t 5-- j- r G+++>++++ v b+ D+ b--- e+ u++** h! f r++ !n y+** The University of Tulsa can bite me. (And usually do) "Funky Green Bean, funky casserolle." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 18:31:35 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Enigma: Videos Part I To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi! > hey I finally managed to snag this video. I was under the impression that > it was all 4 video's off MCMXC, but it is only the first two. Where can > I get (if it exists) Videos Part II? Also What mix is the Mea Culpa on the There is no Part II video. The video you own was only released in the US and, as you said, only has the two tracks which were released as singles in the US. > video? And again I ask if anyone could tell me where to buy the full Enigma Off memory it is a deviation of the "Orthodox Mix" of the track.... > video. If I can get a legit copy, I'm fairly sure I can find a place here > in the US to copy it to NTSC format, but I have no doubt I would need an > original copy. The original, continuous "video album" was only released in the UK/Europe and is consequently in PAL format. From what I can gather, it is hard to find in those countries. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 10:46:50 -0600 (MDT) From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Enigma: Videos Part I To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) > The original, continuous "video album" was only released in the UK/Europe > and is consequently in PAL format. And in Japan, which is NTSC. (How many times do I have to post this before it sinks in, Gavin?) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 94 0:00:09 CDT From: Jim English Subject: Enigma: Videos Part I To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > > The original, continuous "video album" was only released in the UK/Europe > > and is consequently in PAL format. > > And in Japan, which is NTSC. > > (How many times do I have to post this before it sinks in, Gavin?) > > -- > ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) > > There was a release of the full 45min (approx) "video album" in Japan (ie NTSC format)? If so, any idea where to snag one? -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu (Geek Code 2.0): GCS/MU d--(----) h+ s:- g+ p? au+ a- w++@ v? C++ UH+++ P? L- 3- N+++ K- W+ M-- V- -po+ Y t 5-- j- r G+++>++++ v b+ D+ b--- e+ u++** h! f r++ !n y+** The University of Tulsa can bite me. (And usually do) "Funky Green Bean, funky casserolle." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Oct 94 13:58:44 CST From: Sodhed Subject: FAQ - samples To: Enigma Mailing List To whomever wrote up the FAQ: There is yet another sample on MCMXC a.d. that is not included in your FAQ: The beginning of "Mea Cupla"; the rain and the church bell ringing - this is a direct lift from the intro to Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath". The only real difference is the thunder is quieter (probably Michael Cretu simply turned down the low-frequency response to achieve this). Also, there is one track on CROSS of changes (I can't remember which one... I'm terrible with the titles) which features a harmonica that sounds a lot like the one at the beginning of Black Sabbath's "The Wizard". But since it only plays 2 notes anyway, hey, anyone could pick up a harmonica and play 2 notes-this probably isn't a sample from "The Wizard". ;Sodhed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 10:36:58 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: FAQ - samples To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Sodhed. > To whomever wrote up the FAQ: Me! > There is yet another sample on MCMXC a.d. that is not included in your FAQ: > The beginning of "Mea Cupla"; the rain and the church bell ringing - this is > a direct lift from the intro to Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath". The only > real difference is the thunder is quieter (probably Michael Cretu simply > turned down the low-frequency response to achieve this). Thanks for this.... it will be added to it ASAP. > Also, there is one track on CROSS of changes (I can't remember which one... > I'm terrible with the titles) which features a harmonica that sounds a lot > like the one at the beginning of Black Sabbath's "The Wizard". But since it > only plays 2 notes anyway, hey, anyone could pick up a harmonica and play 2 > notes-this probably isn't a sample from "The Wizard". Well the harmonica seems slightly sampled/distorted..... Maybe you can look into exactly how similar the two do sound for us. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 19:47:32 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: For Australians eyes only To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To those in Australia, the 1994 Coca-Cola Australian Music Awards are soon coming up, and YOU can help out by voting for Enigma! To vote for Enigma as the best international group, Phone 0055 69265 and press the digits 243 on your phone when you connect To vote for The CROSS of Changes as the best international album, phone 0055 69268 and press the digits 293 on your phone when you connect Get dialing! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 11:58:08 -0500 (EST) From: EEID@ACAD.ALBION.EDU Subject: FTP sites To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Thanks for the new introduction info, Gavin! Anyway, I checked out the ftp site for the first time. I noticed that in the opening message, it asks that non-Australian users refrain from ftping directly to the yoyo site, if possible. If anyone out there knows the mirror sites, particularly those in the U.S., could you please post them? TIA! (*----------+--------+--------------------------------*) (* Erik Eid | "Wisp" | EEID@ACAD.ALBION.EDU *) (*----------+--------+------+----------------+--------*) (* Computational Math major | Albion College | Senior *) (*--------------------------+----------------+--------*) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:27:30 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: FTP sites To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 10, 11:58am, EEID@ACAD.ALBION.EDU wrote: > Anyway, I checked out the ftp site for the first time. I noticed that in > the opening message, it asks that non-Australian users refrain from ftping > directly to the yoyo site, if possible. If anyone out there knows the > mirror sites, particularly those in the U.S., could you please post them? It is not an FTP mirror, but the Enigma web page holds most of the files found at yoyo. Connect your web browser to http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html and you'll find the FAQ (in text, ps and html format), the discogs (in text and html), reviews, articles, interviews and pictures. The web site is as you can see in Norway. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 94 21:07:06 CST From: Sodhed Subject: Good day, eh! To: Enigma Mailing List Good day, this is not Bob McKenzie, nor his brother Doug, but this IS the Great White North. My name is Colin "Sodhed" Reid. This brings up one question: Who the hell is Colin Reid? Well, here to help you with that question is the handy Colin Reid FAQ: 1. What is your name, REALLY? Well, my name is Colin Sinclair Reid. I'm also known as Sodhed, which is more than just an unusual netname that people will remember, it's my nickname! 2. Why "Sodhed"? That has to do with a band called S.O.D.....anyone who really cares will ask directly. 3. What ENIGMA do you have in your collection? I have MCMXC a.d. and CROSS OF CHANGES, as well as a cheap recording of the mix version of "Carly's Song" which appears on the SLIVER soundtrack. 4. How did you discover ENIGMA? I was in my friend's car one day and she was playing this cassette with techno music on it, only it was different from that dance-floor garbage that gets WAY too much exposure. This was interesting, with varying tempos, dark melodies, and other stuff unheard of before in the techno field. Whoever it was, they were using samplers as they should be used: to produce something that would otherwise be virtually impossible using "conventional methods", and make it sound INTERESTING. So I asked who it was, then I bought the MCMXC a.d. disc and was instantly hooked and somewhat mesmerized. 5. How much of an ENIGMA fanatic are you? Well, I'm not going to say that I listen to Enigma all the time, but I really enjoy the music; it sort of reminds me of what might happen if Mike Oldfield meets Jean-Michel Jarre and Frank Zappa, plus it has a lot of original tricks to it as well. 6. What else do you listen to? Anthrax, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, Annihilator, D.R.I, Frank Zappa, Madonna, Pat Benatar, Mike Oldfield....LOTS of different music. 7. What's your age? Let's see, I was born on February 27 of 1973, so that makes me 21. 8. Where do you live, what do you do, etc? I live in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada, where I attend the University of Regina in pursuit of a degree in Electronic Systems Engineering. 9. What's your internet address, in case somebody actually wants to talk to you? ReidColi@Max.cc.Uregina.ca 10. Is this the end of the message? Yes. ;Sodhed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 09:18:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Shadowfax Subject: Hello To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. I am new to this maiing list so i thought I would introduce myself. My name is Shan-e-Ali Haider.(kinda complex, huh), but people call me Shan. I am 19 yrs old, and I am currently studying in a university. I have been an Enigma fan ever since their first album came out...I like the 2nd one too, but the first one (MCMXC a.d) will always be my #1. I discovered a really good import shop here where i live (BTW i am from the USA) and now i plan on buying some imports... so I'll be asking everyone's opinions before i buy them. I must admit that my fav. group are the Pet Shop Boys, but nevertheless I still love Enigma. Well that's all i guess. Feel free to e-mail me anytime. Shan - It was absolutely fabulous the way one thing led to another. He was the man who had everything and ironically when they first met she thought he was from outer space.She may have been forever in love with his KDX 125, but she never could ride it'cause whenever she tried to, her head would start spinning.-PSB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 21:06:15 CDT From: perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu (Daniel Perry ) Subject: hello out there To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au My Name is Dan Perry. I'm 20 (as of recently) and from USA (mental note: should I make that known?...). I have both of enigma's albums and the single Carly's song from the movie Sliver (Australian import, actually)--the far superior version over Age of Lonliness in my opinion. I first heard enigma on the radio (Sadeness, of course). I like the chant, the beat, etc. and bought the tape as soon as I could. Unfortunately, I was slightly disappointed by the second album, but I'd better not say too much... As for other artists I like,... they are too numerous to mention, but as for related artists (or at least, I would group them together), I like: Deep Forest (of course) Enya Brian Eno Harold Budd David Sylvian Vangelis--my favorite new age artist Amorphous Androgynous the Future Sound of London Moby (and other various ambient and new age artists) noteable non-related artists: Crowded House New Order PetShopBoys Erasure Depeche Mode Duran Duran the Cure (late) Sting Peter Gabriel Howard Jones to name a FEW (very few). I am currently studying computer science at the university of Wisconsin at Oshkosh (USA). BTW, if you didn't already know (I can't remember who mentioned it on the newsgroups), a few of the samples from enigma's first album were taken from an album ("666") by a band called Aphrodite's Child (notable member: Vangelis Papathanassiou--better know as Vangelis, of course). Anyway, the album was worth the money just to have the source of those samples, but most of the album was NOT what I expected, but not all that bad in places. Anyway, Hello World! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 21:12:43 CDT From: Jim English Subject: help get recording of upcoming MM spotlight To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey all, I've hunted and poked and I guess we just don't get MM Spotlight here in Good ole Tulsa, Oklahoma (ya gotta love it!) :(, so if I could get someone to tape the Friday Oct 7th show on Enigma (in the US, ie NTSC format) I would be very grateful. Thanks for any help. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu (Geek Code 2.0): GCS/MU d--(----) h+ s:- g+ p? au+ a- w++@ v? C++ UH+++ P? L- 3- N+++ K- W+ M-- V- -po+ Y t 5-- j- r G+++>++++ v b+ D+ b--- e+ u++** h! f r++ !n y+** The University of Tulsa just _wishes_ the thoughts expressed by me reflected their thoughts. "Aw man, the Doobie Brothers broke up! Shit. When did that happen?" ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 94 18:30:35 CST From: Jim English Subject: hey, i have some questions To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) #1) Has anyone in the US found a place to order the upcoming limited edition Cross of Changes? I've said something to a local store and hes going to check with his distrubuters, but i'd like a backup in case he can't get it. #2) What the subscribe info (ie how to subscribe) a friend of mine wants to subscribe, but i forgot how to do it. thanks -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu (Geek Code 2.0): GCS/MU d--(----) h+ s:- g+ p? au+ a- w++@ v? C++ UH+++ P? L- 3- N+++ K- W+ M-- V- -po+ Y t 5-- j- r G+++>++++ v b+ D+ b--- e+ u++** h! f r++ !n y+** The University of Tulsa can bite me. (And usually do) "Funky Green Bean, funky casserolle." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 09:13:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Thomas Paes Subject: Hi Guys! To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi, I have recently joined the Enigma fan group, and already I have got so much news on Enigma I am really glad for that. Let me tell you a little about my self and what Enigma has done for me. My name is Kin Paes, I am 18 years old and am a freshman in Worcester Polytechnic Institute, MA. I don't have many albums by Enigma, but the ones I do have I cheersih dearly. I have the Cross of Changes and MCMXC a.d. They have made me relax and concentrate when I need to work on something. I guess I like that feeling very much, so I like enigma too. Anyway, I do like other groups like Deep Forest, Enya, The Cure, U2, R.E.M., Morrissey, Lemonheads, Green Day, and the like. I am majoring in Biotechnology/Genetic Engineering. And something personal that's interesting I studied in the Himalayas in India for eight years! By the way is it true that Deep Forest was a part of Enigma and broke away to make a new group. The music is very much the same. I also heard that Enigma does not get the money it makes from record sales, instead it goes to the producers etc. Please confirm. Kim Paes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:57:25 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Hi Guys! To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hello Kim, > interesting I studied in the Himalayas in India for eight years! By the > way is it true that Deep Forest was a part of Enigma and broke away to > make a new group. The music is very much the same. I also heard that There is no connection between Enigma and Deep Forest, apart from the music which is similar. Deep Forest are two guys from Belgium, while Enigma is Michael Cretu, a German who lives on Ibiza in the Mediterranean. > Enigma does not get the money it makes from record sales, instead it goes > to the producers etc. Please confirm. Enigma IS Michael Cretu, and Michael Cretu is the producer, so in all intents the money and royalties goes to 'Enigma'. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:18:12 -0700 From: darose@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Darren Rose) Subject: Hi Guys! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In lieu of Kim Paes' discussion of royalties... Especially for all you subscribers in Europe, I'm curious as to how the group is billed. As the brainchild of Cretu, ec. Here in Southern California, they are discussed as Sandra ("Maria Magdalena" is well remembered by many), and her husband/producer Micael Cretu. Just wanted to know; thanks. => e u r o p e @ucsd.edu <= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 94 11:36:27 -0400 From: "Doug MacKay" Subject: Hi Guys! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:18:12 -0700, Darren Rose wrote: > >In lieu of Kim Paes' discussion of royalties... > >Especially for all you subscribers in Europe, I'm curious as to how the group >is billed. As the brainchild of Cretu, ec. > >Here in Southern California, they are discussed as Sandra ("Maria Magdalena" >is well remembered by many), and her husband/producer Micael Cretu. > >Just wanted to know; thanks. > >=> e u r o p e @ucsd.edu <= My impresson (from Canada) is that Michael Cretu seems to be considered Enigma, if anyone is. Enigma is actually a project set up by Cretu in 1990 (see FAQ). Although Sandra does most of the vocals on the first album, she only does about half on the new one (all though the album cover can tell you all that). Cretu, who co-wrote or wrote all the material on the first album, almost exclusively wrote Cross of Changes. Once again, it's al over the album cover. The long and short is that Enigma isn't any one person or group, but more of an idea, a series of projects dedicated to generally puting a twist on the main stream. But then, who an I to know. :-) Joseph MacKay dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca --- "All that we see or seem Is but a dream within a dream" -Edgar Alan Poe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 12:45:26 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Hi Guys! To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 7, 5:18pm, Darren Rose wrote: > Especially for all you subscribers in Europe, I'm curious as to how the group > is billed. As the brainchild of Cretu, ec. > > Here in Southern California, they are discussed as Sandra ("Maria Magdalena" > is well remembered by many), and her husband/producer Micael Cretu. Usually when Enigma is played on the radio the presenter tells that it's Enigma, who is Michael Cretu, who is married to Sandra, who had a big hit some years ago with 'Maria Magdalena'. So you never get the impression that Enigma is anything else than Michael Cretu's project. The above works two ways; I just saw a record store billing Cretu's album The Invisible Man as 'early music from the man behind Enigma'. Joar PS: Did anyone catch the Muchmusic show? -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 17:28:58 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Hi Guys! To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 10, 12:45pm, joarg@hsr.no wrote: > PS: Did anyone catch the Muchmusic show? To answer my own question, the following videos were played on October 7th: Sadeness Part I Mea Culpa Part II Principles Of Lust Return To Innocence Age Of Loneliness The Muchmusic show on March 11th had the same videos, with Age Of Loneliness replaced by The Rivers Of Belief. This info is courtesy of a list just posted on rec.music.video by d_luk@pavo.concordia.ca (Mitsubishi). Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:39:46 EDT From: RFORNO@american.edu Subject: Hi Guys! To: ENIGMA Distribution List Well, just to spark some conversation and discussion, I'd prefer more of the MCMXC (I forget the Roman numbers) type of Enigma than the Enigma 2 release. The first album was more transcendental and meditative, and I enjoy listening to that much MUCH more than the newer one...but I still listen to it. Other groups I like -- Nirvanna, Pearl Jam, Phil Collins, John Williams, Mozart, and some decent techno... Personally, I think Enigma is perfect to meditate to... ciao! rf rforno@american.edu______________________________________________________ Network Administrator 1LT, USAF Auxillary (CAP/SAR) Florida Wing Washington College of Law Cadet, U.S. Army ROTC (2LT-1995-Infantry) These are my opinions -- If you disagree, then that is your opinion ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Shadowfax Subject: Hi Guys! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Well, just to spark some conversation and discussion, I'd prefer more of the > MCMXC (I forget the Roman numbers) type of Enigma than the Enigma 2 release. > The first album was more transcendental and meditative, and I enjoy listening > to that much MUCH more than the newer one...but I still listen to it. > > Other groups I like -- Nirvanna, Pearl Jam, Phil Collins, John Williams, > Mozart, and some decent techno... > > Personally, I think Enigma is perfect to meditate to... > > ciao! > > rf > > rforno@american.edu______________________________________________________ > Network Administrator 1LT, USAF Auxillary (CAP/SAR) Florida Wing > Washington College of Law Cadet, U.S. Army ROTC (2LT-1995-Infantry) > These are my opinions -- If you disagree, then that is your opinion > > I agree completely... The first album is unbeatable.... It had more of those lovely chants and everything..and less lyrics.. which I adored. COC has more lyrics and is comparable to other artists. MCMXC was unique in it's class. AS that lady (pardon me, but i don't know her name..as i am a new member to this list.. is that Sandra?) says in the beginning "Turn Of the light. take a deep breath.. and relax.." the latter is indeed the best way to enjoy the 1st album.. Comments? Shan -- It was absolutely fabulous the way one thing led to another. He was the man who had everything and ironically when they first met she thought he was from outer space.She may have been forever in love with his KDX 125, but she never could ride it'cause whenever she tried to, her head would start spinning.-PSB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 21:13:26 -0400 From: "Doug MacKay" Subject: Hi Guys! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Mon, 10 Oct 1994 12:45:26 +0100, joarg@johanna2.hsr.no wrote: >PS: Did anyone catch the Muchmusic show? > I did and it wan't a bad show all around. I was almost completely unfamiliar with Enigma's early videos until now. Nice to have 'em on tape... Anyway, the show opened with an interview clip and led into the Sadeness video, followed by Mea Culpa (Orthodox mix, I think) and Principles of Lust. Next up, Return to Innocence and Age of Loneliness. Snips of interview were dropped in throughout. Nothing to important in them. It would seem that Cretu is no longer all that impressed by MCMXC. He says he finds it too "light". The new album he says is "more dramatic, a little bit darker" (it is, for that matter, my favorite). He rattled off the usual bit about the music expressing itself, rather than his expaining it. Unfortunitely, the Rivers of Belief and Carly's Song videos were absent. I myself have never seen either of them right through, and missed them. Seems a shame they had to cut it to half an hour. ...................... Joseph MacKay dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 20:50:59 -0400 From: "Doug MacKay" Subject: Hi Guys! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:39:46 EDT, RFORNO@american.edu wrote: >Well, just to spark some conversation and discussion, I'd prefer more of the >MCMXC (I forget the Roman numbers) type of Enigma than the Enigma 2 release. >The first album was more transcendental and meditative, and I enjoy listening >to that much MUCH more than the newer one...but I still listen to it. > >Other groups I like -- Nirvanna, Pearl Jam, Phil Collins, John Williams, > Mozart, and some decent techno... > >Personally, I think Enigma is perfect to meditate to... > I'm afraid I can't for the meditation part, but for me, the second album edges out the first slightly. Being one to drive just about any point I make into (and sometimes through) people's heads, here's why. * The new album have more interesting lyrics. I'm big on meaningful lyrics, and the COC has no shortage (although the Dream of the Dolphin doesn't do much for me lyricly) * I heard COC album before MCMXC. That's right folks, I completely missed Enigma the first time around. I first encountered the music in Jan '94, when I saw the Return to Innocence video. It left my mouth hanging open in amazement, To explain, you have to understand that the radio scene where I live is basicly Phil Collins and Mariah Carey, which can get on your nerves after a while. Enigma was like shock therapy. My opinion of the project has steradily grown, I now consider them my favorite group/band/singer/singwriter/project. In April (I'm a tough sell), I bought the album, and in July I picked up MCMXC, and was blown away once again. I have to agree with some of what you say, the qualities of MCMXC, for what it is, are unserpassed. It's simply a wonderful album. * I Love You... I'll Kill You is a reason unto itself. The sort of subtlety in this piece of music isn't touched in the slightest on MCMXC. This song is one of my all time faves, Enigma or no. Not to mention that guitar solo... So there are my top three reasons for picking COC. I suppose Number two is a little irrational, but it's unavoidable as well. Comments? ...................... Joseph MacKay dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 01:45:33 -500 (CDT) From: Alfredo Cruz Subject: HOLOGRAM ISSUES To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Does any human, currently existing on this "information highway" (watch out for bug splatters on your electronic windshield!), know where one can order / find the FIRST hologram issue of the first Enigma CD??? How's about being placed on the mailing / waiting list for the next hologram release? Any one got any info??? cruz@ollac.ollusa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 18:29:25 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: HOLOGRAM ISSUES To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Alfredo. > Does any human, currently existing on this "information highway" (watch > out for bug splatters on your electronic windshield!), know where one can > order / find the FIRST hologram issue of the first Enigma CD??? > How's about being placed on the mailing / waiting list for the next > hologram release? Any one got any info??? 1. The hologram version of MCMXC can only really be found in second-hand stores, or by looking in magazines such as "Goldmine", the advertisements for Enigma of which can be accessed via the Enigma WWW page (http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html) 2. It is not know yet whether a hologram cover will appear for Cross.... When it is released in Europe, someone from the list may be willing to buy multiple copies and sell them to people. You will have to wait until it is released to see if this occurs (you can always import it!) Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 14:03:47 -0400 From: "Steve Roussos" Subject: IDM list welcome msg To: ENIGMA Distribution List --- Forwarded mail from majordomo@hyperreal.com Welcome to the idm mailing list! 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Initially, the idea was to create a list dedicated to the Aphex Twin but it soon became apparent that there was a whole lot more going on that we felt was worthy of discussion. The most obvious example of this was Warp records "Artificial Intelligence" series which brought together various artists whose names are now at the forefront of the new wave of electronic listening music. These artists, including BlackDog Productions, B12, Autechre, Speedy J etc., are in my mind the epitomy of "IDM". As always, however, there are no specific boundaries by which we are able to define what is and what isn't Intelligent Dance Music. To begin with, lets look at this analysis below by Chris Hilker: What is Intelligent Dance Music? "Intelligent" gives a nod, obviously, to Warp Records' (UK) "Artificial Intelligence" releases. Let's take a close look at our copies of the 'Artificial Intelligence' compilation, shall we? (This compilation, WARP CD 6 in the UK, Wax Trax/Tee Vee Toons TVT 7203 in the US, is one of the very few definitive releases in this genre.) On the front cover, we see the subtitle: "Electronic Listening music from Warp". The picture on the front cover is of a humanoid figure reclining in a chair. From these two points, we can conclude that the music we're talking about is intended for *listening* - it may be danceable, and it may be influenced by current trends in more straightforward dance music, but it is intended more for your living room than your local club. Looking more closely at the cover pic, there are three album covers strewn on the floor of the figure's room: an early Kraftwerk record, Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon,' and Warp Records' first compilation, 'Pioneers of the Hypnotic Groove.' These, then, are three big influences in IDM: the electronica of Kraftwerk, the druggy self-indulgence of Floyd, and the funky bleepiness of Warp's early stuff (and techno, in the narrow sense of the word, in general). Moving on to the back cover, there are two bits of text, besides the tracklist, of interest: one, at the top left corner, asks "Are you Sitting comfortably?", the other, in the lower right, says "Artificial Intelligence is electronic 'Listening music' for Long journeys quiet nights and club drowsy dawns. Listen with an open mind." Again, and always, the focus is on listening, rather than dancing. Inside back cover: "Artificial Intelligence: electronic music for the mind created by trans-global electronic innovators who prove music is the one true international language. Real people whose unity lies in a common sound + spirit and whose 'listening music' cannot be described as either soulless or machine driven. 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It is an invaluable resource and I recommend that you use it and familiarise yourself with its use. As of yet, there is no FAQ, but if you feel compelled to write one, feel free :) Alan M. Parry (fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu) Brian Behlendorf (brian@hyperreal.com) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: --- End of forwarded mail from majordomo@hyperreal.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:11:03 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: I Love You... I'll Kill you ;) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > To be honest, I'd like to see a short cut of I Love You... I'll Kill You or > Silent Warrior, but hey, you take what you can get. To be quite honest, I'm > not so sure, it would be that successful. People have come to expect > something different from Enigma, and Out From The Deep, is somewhat > popish. it's a nice tune, but I'm not sure it would catch on as vintage > Enigma. > ...................... > Joseph MacKay > dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca > > I agree totally, "I love you... I'll Kill You" is in my honest opinion, next to Eyes of Truth, the best song on the CD. To be quite honest, Out From The Deep sounds like Cretu is constipated... (That's what I thought when I first heard it). Blasphemy, some might say, but that's what it sounds like!! MCMXCad compared to COC is more consistent, and melodically more pleasant. It really is a standard in itself which nothing else can compare to. COC is well... in polite terms, different... Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 21:02:59 -0400 From: "MacKay" Subject: I Love You... I'll Kill you ;) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:11:03 +0800 (WST), Jamie P Yoon wrote: >> To be honest, I'd like to see a short cut of I Love You... I'll Kill You or >> Silent Warrior, but hey, you take what you can get. To be quite honest, I'm >> not so sure, it would be that successful. People have come to expect >> something different from Enigma, and Out From The Deep, is somewhat >> popish. it's a nice tune, but I'm not sure it would catch on as vintage >> Enigma. >> ...................... >> Joseph MacKay >> dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca >> >> > >I agree totally, "I love you... I'll Kill You" is in my honest opinion, >next to Eyes of Truth, the best song on the CD. > >To be quite honest, Out From The Deep sounds like Cretu is constipated... >(That's what I thought when I first heard it). Blasphemy, some might say, >but that's what it sounds like!! > >MCMXCad compared to COC is more consistent, and melodically more >pleasant. It really is a standard in itself which nothing else can >compare to. COC is well... in polite terms, different... I dunno if I'd go quite that far... First, COC is actually my favorite of the two albums. Perhaps it's because I bought it first, but the airiness of it, compaired with MCMXC is rather nice--buth then hearing te first tones of Sadeness (I always skip Voice of Enigma) alway blows me away. As for I Love You... I'll Kill You, it's my all time favorite Enigma tune. Some thing about the subtlety of the music (middle part excepted!) is ver effective for me. It rather reminds me of Paul Simon's "The Cool, Cool River", if that means anything to you. ---- Joseph MacKay Bedford, N.S. ...................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:12:55 -0500 (CDT) From: enigma@imsa.edu Subject: Intro. To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. I'm Eugene Shinn, 16, and a senior currently attending the Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy, a three year public residential high school for gifted Illinois sophmores, juniors, and seniors. I first heard Enigma on the radio oh so many years ago. But like most radio music, garbage in, garbage out. I got into it again during the beginning of junior year/end of sophmore year. I currently own both albums(MCMXC a.D. and Cross of Changes) as well as the import single for the EYES of truth(german) and the limited UK version of the Age of Loneliness. I guess compared to most of the people here, I'm a pretty avid fan(probably owning the largest Enigma collection on the campus.). But I also like Depeche Mode, Nine Inch Nails, and Enya. I'm looking to pick up the import singles to Principles of Lust and Mea Culpa as well as the limited edition albums. Well, I have to go now so ciao. Eugene Shinn____________________________________________________ | Class of 1995 | Director, anime imsa | KMFDM, DM | | enigma@imsa.edu | "Spreading the anime around | Tori Amos | | VG-Ai, Tenchi | the campus." | Enigma | | Arslaan, KOR | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | NIN, Enya | ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:14:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Laura L. Austin" Subject: Introduction from new member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello fellow Enigma fans, I am a new subscriber, so the following is my homework Gavin has given me. My name is Laura Austin and I am 31 years old. I live in the U.S., in the state of Tennessee. I first heard Enigma's music four years ago when their song "Mea Culpa" was being played on the radio. I had never before heard a song that affected me as powerfully as "Mea Culpa" did...so I immediately bought the MCMXC a.D. tape. (I played the tape till I wore it out and had to buy another one!) I also have the "Cross of changes" tape...which is also great! (Like Wes Hsu, I believe MCMXC a.D will always be my favorite). I used to dance for Middle Tennessee State University's Reperatory Theatre and though I had to quit for lack of time, I choreographed a dance to Enigma's "Principles of Lust" and hope to someday prepare it for the stage. I listen to all forms of music but until recently, I thought Enigma was the only band out there that did the kind of music I love.(A freind of mine recently told me about similar bands such as Deep Forest, Semantic Space,etc). I am a graduate student in Economics and a teaching assistant in Developmental Reading. I've never tended to be an obsessed fan of any one band,actor,team,etc...till I heard Enigma. They changed me on that score!:-) (I even used the pseudonym Enigma for a poem I had published in a local literary publication). If Enigma has any other tapes out (other than MCMXC a.D. and Cross of cahnges), and anyone knows how I could order them...I'd greatly appreciate the info. I hope this wasn't too long winded...and I'm glad to be on board! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 12:21:40 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: Limited Edition album confirmed To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The 'Limited Edition' version of The CROSS Of Changes, similar to the one for MCMXC a.D., will be out on November 14th. With a special packing and appearance, it will feature the tracks from the original album, along with several NEW remixes. Out From The Deep is also confirmed as the new single, but no date is given, although it is likely that it will be released after the Limited Edition album. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 11:24:29 -500 (EDT) From: Dutch Subject: Limited Edition album confirmed To: ENIGMA Distribution List WHERE CAN I GET THIS ALBUM!!!! Will it be availble in the states (I'm not holding my breath)? Chris Brown ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 16:46:46 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Limited Edition album confirmed To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 19, 11:24am, Dutch wrote: > WHERE CAN I GET THIS ALBUM!!!! Will it be availble in the states (I'm not > holding my breath)? I hope it will be released in the US too, although Europe is the only place I am sure it will appear. Considering that The Eyes Of Truth did not get a US release, and the Limited Edition of MCMXC a.D. was not released in the US it would be fair for you people over there to at least get this album. Joar "only four weeks to the album" Grimstvedt -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 15:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Devon Nelson Subject: Limited Edition album confirmed To: ENIGMA Distribution List Do you have any information on the album that we people in the States can use to order it (if it does not make it over here), like isbn number? Rainith +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ |The universe is over. It's my job to to put it all in order, now, | | and lock the place behind me as I leave. -Death, Books of Magic 4 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 20:48:29 -0600 (MDT) From: DANTE@APSICC.APS.EDU Subject: Limited in the US To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au If anyone is interested, there is a place in Albuquerque that offered the the Limited Edition MCMX (whatever!). They have been getting them in constantly since March. Most likely, they will carry the COC Limited Edition as well. I can pick one up for anyone if the want it. Dante............... dante@apsicc.aps.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 00:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Limited in the US To: ENIGMA Distribution List I'm sure Goldmine will list many stores that will be selling this thing as soon as it comes out. So, even if it isn't released in the US, everybody will be able to get a copy (unless it is _really_ limited :-) -- John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html A n d T h r o u g h T h e W i r e P e t e r G a b r i e l http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/pg.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 01:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Alan Lang Subject: Me. To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hello. I've been hanging around here for a while, but haven't gotten around to posting about myself... So here I am - I'm twenty years old, a computer science major, from Dallas, Texas, USA, and I have a list of hobbies including, but not limited to, books, music, and computers. Enigma is one of my all-time favorites, if not _the_ favorite. I first heard Enigma several years ago when MCMXCaD first came out. I have three singles and the two albums, and am currently looking for as many different Enigma CDs as I can get my grubby paws on. Hmmm... other music I like... Where to start? I could go on for pages and pages... So I'll just limit myself to saying that I think Moodswings, Deep Forest and "Semantic Spaces" by Delerium are fine additions to any Enigma fan's library. And I like silk. --------------------------------------------------------- | Mark Lang | elistan+@cmu.edu | elistan@metronet.com | |http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/ml5t/elistan.html| --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 21:40:20 CDT From: woody Subject: Mea Culpa/Eyes of Truth To: ENIGMA Distribution List I'm looking at ordering the cd singles of "Mea Culpa" and "The Eyes of Truth," neither of which is available here in the US. Can somebody recommend the best versions of both. What are the track listings for the German or Holland releases? What is the limited edition of the "Mea Culpa" single and is it any better than the regular release? Any help would be appreciated. Woody (c562611@mizzou1.missouri.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 13:07:35 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Mea Culpa/Eyes of Truth To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Woody. > I'm looking at ordering the cd singles of "Mea Culpa" and "The Eyes of > Truth," neither of which is available here in the US. > > Can somebody recommend the best versions of both. What are the track > listings for the German or Holland releases? What is the limited edition > of the "Mea Culpa" single and is it any better than the regular release? You will find the track listings for each of these singles in the discography (yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/listserv/enigma/Enigma/EnigmaDiscog.txt). The limited edition of Mea Culpa simply had different packaging to the normal release so music-wise it is no better. > Any help would be appreciated. Everything you need to know is in the discography! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 16:04:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pavel P. Groisman" Subject: Mea Culpa/Eyes of Truth To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi, Woody! I have the Holland version of "The eyes of truth". First of all, it's got a "the twilight of gods" remix which many people consider to be the best out of the whole "Cross of Changes" album. I beleive, there also is the "Jam & Spoon" remix which is very good as well. (Piano intro, kinda slow, nice additional keyboards). I believe there is also a bonus track there- the "Omen remix" of "The principles of lust". That one is not a music- it's just pure sex. So my advice would be to go get "The Eyes" immediately, it's really worth the money. Unfortunatelly, I know nothing about the "Mea Culpa" single... Pasha. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 15:26:13 GMT From: joarg@gribb.hsr.no (Grimstvedt, Joar 7-96) Subject: MM SPOTLIGHT: Oct01-07 To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Once again an 'MM Spotlight' will be put on Enigma. This half-hour programme will most likely just show the five or six videos they can fit in. So for those fortunate to receive this Muchmusic thing, make sure you're ready with your VCRs! Joar --- Forwarded message follows --- Newsgroup: rec.music.video From: al442@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Derek Tam) Subject: MM SPOTLIGHT: Oct01-07 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 21:09:24 GMT NOTE: I have been informed by several viewers in the U.S. That the MM Spotlight listings which I post and mail do not correspond with those being shown to American MM viewers not getting MM via a satellite dish, but instead through their local cable company. This has been confirmed by one U.S. viewer. | This posting can be mailed directly to your mailbox. | | Please do not post requests to this newsgroup. | | Send requests to me at al442@freenet.carleton.ca | *************************************** | ________ 2.31| | / ____ \ | | | / \ | | | + ==| | MM | |===+ | | | | \____/ | | | | | \________/ | | | MUCHMUSIC SPOTLIGHT | | === FOR: === | | OCT 01-OCT 07 1994 | | at 7:30pm-8:00pm ET/4:30pm-5:00pm PT | | repeated at 11:30 pm ET & 11:30 am ET | |***************************************| | SAT OCT 01 Tragically Hip (Part 1) | | SUN OCT 02 Tragically Hip (Part 2) | | MON OCT 03 Jane Siberry | | TUE OCT 04 Joe Jackson | | WED OCT 05 Mariah Carey | | THU OCT 06 Grapes of Wrath/Ginger | | FRI OCT 07 Enigma | *************************************** MON OCT 03 [The Big Ticket] Stone Temple Pilots Unplugged (R) [at 12pm & 8pm ET] | I am not associated in anyway with MuchMusic, CITY-TV, MusiquePlus | | or its affiliated companies. -Derek Tam al442@freenet.carleton.ca | -- "I'moneofthosemelodramaticfools,neurotictothebone,nodoubtaboutit. SometimesIgivemyselfthecreeps,sometimesmymindplaystricksonme. Itallkeepsaddingup,IthinkI'mcrackingup..." G R E E N D A Y Derek Tam al442@freenet.carleton.ca | derekt@freenet.scri.fsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 10:45:34 CDT From: perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu (Daniel Perry ) Subject: MuchMusic To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au From: Wesleyan Hsu : > Does anyone in the US have a copy of the MuchMusic show (and would be willing > to make me a copy?) From: joarg@hsr.no > To answer my own question, the following videos were played on > October 7th: > > Sadeness Part I > Mea Culpa Part II > Principles Of Lust > Return To Innocence > Age Of Loneliness > > The Muchmusic show on March 11th had the same videos, with Age Of > Loneliness replaced by The Rivers Of Belief. If anyone has both of these shows I also would like a copy (wow, I didn't know the Rivers of Belief had a video!). Thanks! Dan Perry perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 10:44:31 CDT From: Jim English Subject: muchmusic To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey, I would love (and pay) for a copy of the enigma videos from the much music show's. NTSC format plez. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu (Geek Code 2.0): GCS/MU d--(----) h+ s:- g+ p? au+ a- w++@ v? C++ UH+++ P? L- 3- N+++ K- W+ M-- V- -po+ Y t 5-- j- r G+++>++++ v b+ D+ b--- e+ u++** h! f r++ !n y+** The University of Tulsa can bite me. (And usually do) "Funky Green Bean, funky casserolle." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:21:20 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: MuchMusic To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all! It seems a number of you desperately want to get your hands on some Enigma videos! If anyone out in the US is kind enough in the US to have a copy of the MuchMusic show and is willing to duplicate it for members of the list (after being reimbursed for costs of course), then please contact enigma-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au - in the mean time, PLEASE stop posting requests for the video on the list!!! If I ever get regular contact with a record company in the US, I will ensure I make it apparent to them of the need to release an Enigma music video compile in the US! Anyway, for those in Australia who want a copy of all Enigma videos except the EYES of Truth and Age of Loneliness, please contact me at gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au - sorry, but this only applies to Australians. On another issue, I found it interesting that Michael Cretu considers MCMXC a.D. to be "light". It is apparent, however, that when you listen to CROSS of Changes that it is much more complex in its recording and content, this notably being in the layers of sounds overlapping each other (dubbing) and the wider range of chants and musical styles. A common complaint about MCMXC a.D. is that it has the same beat, same instruments, and the relatively same tune. The argument presented for this is that Michael Cretu wanted it to be one long track. However, it seems in hindsight that Michael Cretu also sees that this formula would not last the test of time. Food for thought anyway! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 10:21:55 -0400 From: Wesleyan Hsu Subject: MuchMusic To: ENIGMA Distribution List >argument presented for this is that Michael Cretu wanted it to be one long >track. However, it seems in hindsight that Michael Cretu also sees that this >formula would not last the test of time. Food for thought anyway! I think it will stand the test of time for me. Out of all of my CDs, I always seem to be listening to MCMXC a.D. I love to put it on when studying, or when driving in traffic (it helps calm me). It has to be my favorite album. Wes Hsu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 11:35:17 PST From: rpayne@ccgate.hac.com Subject: MuchMusic To: ENIGMA Distribution List Does anyone know if MuchMusic plans to repeat the Enigma show? I joined this list too late and missed the original showing. Rich Payne rpayne@ccgate.hac.com **** Normal Disclaimers Apply --- Use only as directed **** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 20:48:07 -0400 From: "Doug MacKay" Subject: MuchMusic To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au OK folks... since I started this whole vid thing, here's the run down. I'll SELL anyone who wants a copy, a dub of the Spotlight (this is tentative on getting another VCR to dub with, no guarentees). Drop me note, Email, not listserv, for Gavin Stok's sake :). The videos included are Sadeness, Mea Culpa (a remix, Orthodox I think), Principles of lust (another remix, original with a flute part incerted), Return to Innocence and Age of Loneliness. Some snips of interviews are also included, although there's nothing in 'em you can't find on the WWW page. This whole thing hinges on (unfortunitely), the conversion between the Canadian dollar and whatever other money I could be sent. I'm afraid I'll have to ask for a Canadian cheque or a Canadian money order. Either would have to be made out to Joseph MacKay (NOT Doug, I'm just riding on his address). BTW, if anyone has Rivers of Belief, Carly's Song and The Eyes of Truth videos on VHS (North American standard, whatever that is), I'd think about trading for the Spotlight. I'd also kill for the MCMXC a.D. Video Album. Thanx PS: If my mailbox is stuffed with requests, I may have to call this off. Unless I can find someone to copy the tapes for me (should there be many requests) than I'll be unable to handle it with my eight year old VCR and whatever I can squeeze out of a friend. Please note as well, that tapes will only be copies in North America's standard VHS recording type (I'm not sure what it's called). ----- ...................... Joseph MacKay dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 20:51:48 -0400 From: "Doug MacKay" Subject: MuchMusic To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:21:20 +1000 (EST), Gavin Stok wrote: >On another issue, I found it interesting that Michael Cretu considers MCMXC a.D. >to be "light". It is apparent, however, that when you listen to CROSS of >Changes that it is much more complex in its recording and content, this notably >being in the layers of sounds overlapping each other (dubbing) and the wider >range of chants and musical styles. A common complaint about MCMXC a.D. is that >it has the same beat, same instruments, and the relatively same tune. The >argument presented for this is that Michael Cretu wanted it to be one long >track. However, it seems in hindsight that Michael Cretu also sees that this >formula would not last the test of time. Food for thought anyway! > Actually, the continuing beat and simmiller musical themes, is one of my favorite thing about the first album (which isn't my favorite). The same "feel" is all that made it to COC, one of my regrets. I just loved the flute part it Sadeness and Rivers of Belief. I think it's also present in Mea Culpa, although I haven't listened to it carefully in a while. ...................... Joseph MacKay dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 08:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher D Powell Subject: MuchMusic To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Fri, 14 Oct 1994, Doug MacKay wrote: > OK folks... since I started this whole vid thing, here's the run down. I'll > SELL anyone who wants a copy, a dub of the Spotlight (this is tentative on > getting another VCR to dub with, no guarentees). Drop me note, Email, not > listserv, for Gavin Stok's sake :). Gee, isn't this, like.....illegal? :) Salut, Chris Powell --------------------------------------- I'd rather have a bottle in front of me Than a frontal labotomy....... --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 09:41:25 -0400 From: Wesleyan Hsu Subject: MuchMusic videotape To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Does anyone in the US have a copy of the MuchMusic show (and would be willing to make me a copy?) I haven't seen any Enigma videos, and I'd really like to see videos from the first album. Thanks! Wes Hsu Team OS/2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher D Powell Subject: MuchMusic videotape To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Wesleyan Hsu wrote: > Does anyone in the US have a copy of the MuchMusic show (and would be willing > to make me a copy?) > > I haven't seen any Enigma videos, and I'd really like to see videos from the > first album. > > Thanks! > Wes Hsu > Team OS/2 > Me too! Down here in the U.S. of A., there's little chance of catching Enigma on MTV, let alone cable itself....anybody up for helping me out? Graci, Chris Powell n9340154@henson.cc.wwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:34:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: MuchMusic videotape To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Christopher D Powell wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Wesleyan Hsu wrote: > > > Does anyone in the US have a copy of the MuchMusic show (and would be willing > > to make me a copy?) > > > > I haven't seen any Enigma videos, and I'd really like to see videos from the > > first album. > > > > Thanks! > > Wes Hsu > > Team OS/2 > > > Me too! Down here in the U.S. of A., there's little chance of catching > Enigma on MTV, let alone cable itself....anybody up for helping me out? > > Graci, > Chris Powell > n9340154@henson.cc.wwu.edu > > > Hi Guys, I don't even have cable, so there's no chance for me to get a glimpse of any Enigma Videos! So, if any one else is willing to give me a copy, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks ! -Alex de Dios ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 16:18:28 CDT From: perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu (Daniel Perry ) Subject: musical interests To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I have would like to ask you all what other musical artists you like. Music is a very integral part of my soul (if you believe in souls), and I live to share music and musical ideas with others. Please send me a list, as extensive as you like i.e. "I only like this song from this artist, here's why...", I'd really like to know and discuss with you the bands we share an interest in. Thanks, just make sure you send it to me, not the list (unless you want to). Dan Perry perryda@sol.acs.uwosh.edu ------------------------------ Date: 29 Oct 1994 19:02:14 GMT From: Jack_K._Voorhees@shhs1.ccsd.k12.co.us (Jack K. Voorhees) Subject: My Homework To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, the Enigma listserv has just appeared here at my school in Colorado, USA. From what I can gather, this is a pretty new list. Anyway.. My name is Jack Voorhees, I live in Colorado, USA. I am a Senior at Smoky Hill High School, and I plan to attend the University of Colorado at Boulder (assuming that I am accepted.) Enigma isn't a group that I have volumes and volumes of, but I do enjoy the music, especially at clubs. Hmmmm lets see..... I am 17 years old- soon to be 18. I have one very big statement that I would like to convey- END THE VIOLENCE!!! Please, please PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!!!! Live long and prosper!! Jack_Voorhees@shhs1.ccsd.k12.co.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:58:48 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: NEEDED: Opinions on possible release To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Greetings to you all. I have been asked from a representative of Virgin UK of the mailing list's thoughts concerning the possible release of "Out from the Deep". What is needed to be known includes whether you think it should be released (& why apart from the obvious reasons!), whether you think it would be successful, etc...... Please make your responses brief (2-3 lines) so I can collate them together and send them off ASAP.... I hope to collate the responses by mid-late next week. Get thinking! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 07:27:56 EDT From: gturnq01@eng.eds.com (Gary Turnquist) Subject: NEEDED: Opinions on possible release To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au excuse me? _ _ <@ @> +------------------oOO----(_)----------------------------+ | Knowledge is built on theory. The theory of knowledge | | teaches us that a statement, if it conveys knowledge, | | predicts future outcome, with risk of being wrong, and | | that it fits without failure observations of the past | | W. Edward Deming | |________________________________________________________| +-------------------------+ | Gary Turnquist | | EDS Corporation | | 750 Tower Troy, MI | +------------------oOO----+ \| |__|__| |/ || || ooO Ooo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 20:49:28 -0400 From: "Doug MacKay" Subject: NEEDED: Opinions on possible release To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au On Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:58:48 +1000 (EST), Gavin Stok wrote: >Greetings to you all. I have been asked from a representative of Virgin UK of >the mailing list's thoughts concerning the possible release of "Out from the >Deep". What is needed to be known includes whether you think it should be >released (& why apart from the obvious reasons!), whether you think it would be >successful, etc...... > >Please make your responses brief (2-3 lines) so I can collate them together and >send them off ASAP.... I hope to collate the responses by mid-late next week. > >Get thinking! > > >Gavin Stok >(Enigma Mailing List President) > >gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To be honest, I'd like to see a short cut of I Love You... I'll Kill You or Silent Warrior, but hey, you take what you can get. To be quite honest, I'm not so sure, it would be that successful. People have come to expect something different from Enigma, and Out From The Deep, is somewhat popish. it's a nice tune, but I'm not sure it would catch on as vintage Enigma. ...................... Joseph MacKay dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 12:32:32 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: New Introductory Message To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day to you all. There is now a new introductory message that members receive when they first subscribe to this mailing list. The new or changed parts of this introductory message are as follows: FTP SITE You will find FAQs, discographies, pictures, and other related information by anonymously FTPing to yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au and going to the /listserv/enigma directory. Included is a comprehensive FAQ I have spent many months writing and which is updated regularly. This FAQ is regularly posted to newsgroups such as rec.music.newage and alt.music.progressive and is available in both ASCII and postscript form. WORLD WIDE WEB (WWW) PAGE Much of the information available at the FTP site can be viewed interactively at the Enigma WWW page which is administered by Joar Grimstvedt. The page's address is: http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html INTERNATIONAL RELAY CHAT (IRC) Users of IRC should look out for the channel #Enigma. You will often find Joar Grimstvedt in there with the nickname of "joarg" and I am often in there with the nickname of "Analogue". With the number of users on this mailing list, there's a good chance you'll find the channel has been formed. But if the channel is not there, feel free to form it by typing "/join #Enigma". THE GOLDEN RULES 1. Please keep the discussion on the list confined to that revolving around Enigma, the people involved in Enigma, and bands of likeness. For example, while Crowded House may be a great band, most members of the list don't really care since it's not related to Enigma. 2. Should you wish to sell merchandise DO NOT post it to the mailing list. Instead send it to enigma-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au where the administrators will look after it for you. This has been set up in such a way that it is fair on everyone to purchase the item you wish to sell. Once Joar or I receive the item you wish to sell, we will post it to the list with some form of competition (usually answering a trivia question) which will most likely not be able to be answered immediately! :) The first person to "win" will be able to purchase the item. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:24:13 -0600 (MDT) From: DANTE@APSICC.APS.EDU Subject: New Member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, I am new to this group, so heres the stats that I was asked to provide. My name is Dante Stewart, I am 20 years old, taking classes here at the local college in New Mexico, US. I first heard Enigma at the radio station I was working at that time. I instantly fell in love with Enigma, and quickly went out and got the CD. Since then, I have been fortunate enough to get all of the singles, so far. I am quite the fan, but Enigma is not my most favorite band, though. I feel that MCMXC is the best concept record I have ever listened to, and the COC is an excellent and consistant followup. Eventhough, COC is a great CD, I still prefer MCMXC. I think I should stop babbling now... I'm glad there is a group of Enigma fans getting together on the Net. It has been long overdue. Dante.............................. dante@apsicc.aps.edu  ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:03:46 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: New release date for album To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au The release date for the special edition of The CROSS Of Changes has been put back by a week. The release date is now November 21. This is for Europe, Australia will most likely get it before the end of the year. I don't know about the US. The album will contain the regular tracks, plus remixes from the singles, so no new remixes, shame. The cover is identical to the one for the regular album, but this time the android figure is painted in gold rather than yellow. Apart from that the cover is identical. As for the Out From The Deep single, there haven't been a word on it lately, suggesting that it could be dropped. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:59:03 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: One A.D. To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. I was lucky enough to have a member of this mailing list send me a tape of "One A.D." many months ago (thanks again - I never did get around to mailing you my thoughts about it!). Anyway, here is the promo sheet for those interested: *start* Are you ready for Ambient Dub? Do Deep Forest & Enigma mean anything to your customers? Move through the future with ONE A.D. a compilation album from waveform England's most innovative electronic music artists looping through time with eleven radio friendly tracks. Four reasons this album will sell in your store: 1. Over 7 million Enigma customers 2. One million Deep Forest customers 3. England's exploding ambient music scene is coming to the USA. Another British invasion! 4. Heavy cross-over radio exposure on chr/top 40, new rock/alternative, nac/aa and aaa stations! Includes the radio single focus track "Soma Holiday" by G.O.L. ...also "The Calling" from A.P.L. (A Positive Life) samples on the new ENIGMA album, "The Cross of Changes" 74 minutes of music ~ street date: May 17, 1994 *end* Track listing is as follows (order may not be exact): Templeroy: Dubometer Pentatonik: Devotion G.O.L: Soma Holiday Banco de Gaia: Desert Wind Higher Intelligence Agency: Spectral A Positive Life: The Calling Sandoz: Beam Higher Intelligence Agency: Harmony Angel Banco de Gaia: Shanti Original Rockers: Mecca of Space A Positive Life: The Calling To answer Joar's question, the sample take from APL is the swirling voice heard notably at the start of "Out from the Deep" as documented in the FAQ. If anyone has a spare CD copy of this, fell free to send it to me! :) Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 10:10:19 -0500 (CDT) From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: One AD To: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) I remember reading in CMJ Monthly about One AD and how one of the songs was Enigma in disguise. As I glanced over the disc though I couldn't figure out what they were talking about. I must have misread it as saying that it sounded like Enigma. I wish I had the mag here in front of me so I could reread. Once I get home though, I see what it said for sure... In any case I think many Enigma fans would enjoy it. BTW, does anyone actually have the Enigma LD of all the vids? I have searched for it for 2 years and have come up empty. If anyone is willing to dupe me a copy, and violate copyright laws :), I would be forever greatful. Of course I'd be willing to pay postage and offer something in exchange (discs, vids, whatever). Finally, whats on the Eyes of Truth CD5 (europe)? Thanks, MC theorbyellosugarbancodegaiakmfdmpopwilleatitselflovejonesaphextwinrenegadesound wavepropagandabigdrillcar ************************************* theklfthefuture soundoflondonwilliamorbit * mark conklin - mbconkli@ilstu.edu * beastieboyspete namlookthomasdolbybeloved ************************************* orbitalmeatbeat manifestoyoungamericanprimitiveirresistibleforceunderworldeatstaticpsychictvall ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 21:10:15 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: One AD To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Oct 13, 10:10am, Mark Conklin wrote: > Finally, whats on the Eyes of Truth CD5 (europe)? The European CD-maxi holds the following versions of The Eyes Of Truth: 4:36 Radio Edit 7:27 Album Version 7:17 Goetterdaemmerung Mix (The Twilight Of The Gods) 5:34 Dub Version Catalogue number for this is 8 92368 2. In the UK there was a special edition called "Singles Collection" (8 92432 2 - DINSDX 126): 7:17 The Eyes Of Truth (Goetterdaemmerung Mix) (The Twilight Of The Gods) 5:00 Sadness Part 1 (Extended Trance Mix) 6:15 Mea Culpa Part II (Fading Shades Mix) 5:52 Principles Of Lust (Omen Mix) Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 17:58:45 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: Sandra - Paintings In Yellow To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au What follows is the press info accompanying the release of Sandra's fourth album, Paintings In Yellow, in March 1990. It gives a good insight into who Sandra is, and recaps on her career thus far. Enjoy the story! Joar ---------- SANDRA - PAINTINGS IN YELLOW In a very effectful and at the same time disarming innocent manner she stated that she would "Never Be Maria Magdalena"... after that she effervescently sang "In The Heat Of The Night", she then was the "Little Girl" who was longing for "Innocent Love" and who even slipped on 20 different costumes for "Everlasting Love"; shortly after that she hastened "Into A Secret Land" only to implore her lover to stay by announcing "We'll Be Together" and, on her recent journey to "Hiroshima" she observed that professional versatility did not only turn her career into a world-wide one but also made her a top- ranking star. There's no doubt about it: we're talking about Sandra who has had 14 consecutive hits in only five years time. But there's more: Sandra, a German pop artist, rocked the charts of 15 countries, soared to the top and thus made pop music made in Germany presentable all over the world. She made the impossible possible: she is not only Germany's most successful pop artist but also Germany's no. 1 pop export. Her debut single "Maria Magdalena" decisively influenced this development; having been the insider club hit for months it finally cast off its camouflage mac in 1985 and became the international summer hit. After this pulsating rhythm had conquered the countries around the Mediterranean it spread across the Continent and even found passionate fans in cool Scandinavia. "Maria Magdalena" achieved a quadruple platinum status in Sweden alone and thus became Sweden's biggest seller ever - Sandra outsold the Beatles and their legendary national act ABBA with this hit. This phenomenon was no flash in the pan, on the contrary - numerous hits helped to build up Sandra's career: "In The Heat Of The Night", "Little Girl", "Innocent Love", "Stop For A Minute", "Heaven Can Wait", "Secret Land", "We'll Be Together" to name only a few. The list of her albums is rather short as opposed to the long list of her hit singles but nonetheless just as significant: her 1985 debut album "The Long Play" which was followed by her 1986 album "Mirrors" and the 1987 single compilation "Ten On One" all achieved gold or respectively platinum status just as the with finesse stylized journey "Into A Secret Land" did - all of the above does not only apply to Germany but also to Austria, Switzerland, France, Scandinavia... Sandra's career which has developed nicely in those five years which have passed since "Maria Magdalena" is inseparably connected with the name of the one man who has determined this typical "Sandra sound" with his unerring antenna for instrumentation, arrangements and production which often is far ahead of the zeitgeist: Michael Cretu, Sandra's spouse. Their co-operation on both a private and professional basis - this ideal interaction of creative harmony and directive feeling - goes back to 1982 when Sandra, who was born in Saarbruecken on May 18th, 1962, first met the sound specialist from Bucharest in a Frankfurt-based recording studio. Sandra then was the lead vocalist of the German girlie band "Arabesque" (a favourite in all clubs ever since 1978); especially the Japanese teens loved their music. Her Japanese fans remained loyal after she launched her solo career and celebrated her with tempestuous attentiveness as at the Tokyo Music Festival in 1986 when she got standing ovations at the legendary Budokan stadium and stole all other artists the show. In 1986 her second single "In The Heat Of The Night" proved that the streak of success she had been enjoying so far was apt to continue. Live appearances all over the world were to reward her fans for their support and thus a six week promotion tour led Sandra to exotic places like Peru, Venezuela, Brazil, Mexico and to Japan, of course. Although Sandra is enormously successful at home and abroad she experienced something completely new when she was enthusiastically celebrated as she gave five guest performances for a total of 250.000 fans in Moscow at the end of August last year. The next few weeks will keep Sandra busy once again; this is due to the release of her new album "Paintings In Yellow"; here Sandra proceeds with her familiar liveliness and naturalness to create paintings just by singing with that fawning, velvety voice of hers. Her current single "Hiroshima" - an excellent remake of the old Wishful Thinking hit - allows us to glimpse at this album, which is a true gallery of art. Songs like "Hiroshima", the beautiful ballad "One More Night", the thrilling dancefloor track "Life Is A Big Insanity", "The Skin I'm In" and others are the resounding paintings of a very impressive exhibition which are artfully combined in the musical trip "The Journey". "Paintings In Yellow" once again shows off the subtlety and the elegance of style with which the singer and her producer created these songs full of feeling, soul and sound, which not only compare to international pop music but also set new standards. Sandra's emotional singing, the high-tech sound created by sound specialist Michael Cretu with ultra modern equipment like digital keyboards and drum computers, arrangements with disco beats and melodics are guarantors for successful pop music. The new "Oeuvre" was recorded in Ibiza where Michael and Sandra just recently moved to and where Michael has set up his new studio. But soon enough Sandra will have to leave her sunny island: she will launch her extensive European tour in September and she'll be sure to see all of her fans then. -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 18:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: claudio@x.co.uk Subject: Sandra - Paintings In Yellow To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > What follows is the press info accompanying the release of Sandra's > fourth album, Paintings In Yellow, in March 1990. It gives a good > insight into who Sandra is, and recaps on her career thus far. This is probably my favourate Sandra album, but that apart, this album is the most MCMXC a.D.-like album she's done. It's very obvious to see the Enigma/Sandra connection when you hear this album. Her latest album "Close To Seven" (playing now! :-) is less of a concept-album. I got hold of it a couple of years ago and loved it, just as i did all her other albums, but thought that it's style was very different to Enigma. Then "Cross Of Changes" came out and once again you can hear the overlap. It's a shame you can't get bugger all of her stuff here in the US :-( claudio "There is more to life than reality..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 09:45:01 -0400 From: Wesleyan Hsu Subject: SpotLight videos in the US To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To all you Enigma fans in the States: I will be working with Joseph MacKay in acquiring a copy of the SpotLight videos. For those in the US who are interested in getting a copy of this, I will be willing to make copies. This will make it easier for all of us in the States since you won't have to get a money order in Canadian dollars. I probably won't have the tape for a few weeks, but if you're interested, let me know, and I'll start a list. Once I get the tape, I'll send you details as to shipping, etc. Wes Hsu Team OS/2 ------------------------------ End of Enigma Digest ******************************