Enigma Digest February 1995 Volume 2 : Issue 2 Administrivia "Out from the Deep" in Australia! (2 msgs) (Bounced) Another Enigma CD (2 msgs) Deep Forest / Mike Oldfield WWW Delerium did not perform at Nettwerk 10th Aniversary (2 msgs) digest gone insane?!?! (3 msgs) Enigma Digest V1 #180 (3 msgs) enigma on the radio Enigma T-shirts (3 msgs) Enigma WWW page reviewed in UK magazine! Error in WWW Engima|lyrics page (2 msgs) EXCLUSIVE Enigma news Eyes of Truth (2 msgs) Film: Pret-A-Porter music (8 msgs) Forwarded introduction of Blackjack Friendly reminder Greetings fellow Engima fans! HI!!! Hi! Hi! Hi! Mea Culpa Lyrics (3 msgs) meditation Mike Oldfield's Mac (2 msgs) MIKE OLDFIELD SONGS OF DI (2 msgs) Mike Oldfield Songs of Distant Earth - cd-rom? (4 msgs) Mission Control Samples More Fun With Samples. (2 msgs) NEW MEMBER (6 msgs) New member (fwd) New person (3 msgs) new user (3 msgs) OFTD in OZ (2 msgs) OFTD Video in OZ (6 msgs) Oz OFTD single different! PAL and NTSC (2 msgs) PLEASE HELP ME: OUT FROM Please help me: Out from the Deep (2 msgs) Re[2]: related music stuff (4 msgs) Recommended CDs related music stuff (7 msgs) Reliable source: Out from the deep (6 msgs) Resigning my lurker status Rivers of belief/principles (3 msgs) RTI in prayer (4 msgs) Sacred Spirit SACRED SPIRIT --- MI˙˙˙˙˙ SACRED SPIRIT --- MICHEL (fwd) Sacred Spirit --- Michel Cretu ??? (5 msgs) Sandra's solo album. (4 msgs) Sandra on "The Eyes of Truth" (2 msgs) Thanks guys! (2 msgs) The ones that get deleted (2 msgs) Welcome to list 'enigma' (2 msgs) Well, I got Songs of Distant Earth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 12:59:59 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: Administrivia To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au This is just a reminder that the monthly archives of the Enigma mailing list can be found at yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au in the directory listserv/enigma/Enigma/archives. You can also get them from the Enigma web page at http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html. The current members stats is as follows: 97 edu US educational domain 57 com US commercial domain 14 net Net domain 11 uk United Kingdom 10 au Australia 10 ca Canada 8 nl Netherlands 7 se Sweden 5 org Organisational domain 4 us USA 2 de Germany 2 no Norway 2 nz New Zealand 1 cz Czech Republic 1 gov US governmental domain 1 hk Hong Kong 1 is Iceland 1 kr South Korea 1 mx Mexico 1 ro Romania 1 si Slovenia 1 su Russia 1 tr Turkey 1 za South Africa A total of 240 members, of which 86 are in digest mode -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 22:22:46 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: "Out from the Deep" in Australia! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day to you all! I have some more good news (so much good news has occurred in 1 week!). Especially for Jamie from Western Australia: "Out from the Deep" has been released in Australia It was released on Monday February 6, 1995 and came as a total surprise to me as the staff from EMI Sydney didn't notify me of it (something I will be addressing).... Anyway, for those Australians desperately trying to buy one without importing it, it's here meaning that Australia remains as the ONLY place where every Enigma single has been released. My standard long-winded review will be posted in a few days. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 11:19:20 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: "Out from the Deep" in Australia! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Yes! I can confirm that Out From the Deep was released in Australia; I got my copy from a shop called: dada Records and T-Shirts 36 Pier St Perth, 6000 Australia Tel: +61 9 325 2666 The cost is AUS$7, which works out to be about US$5 ( and interestingly the CD is black on a white background, as opposed to white lettering on a black background. Hmm, but thats nitpicking :) They seem to be pretty cluey about all sorts of things, and I'm going to investigate the Enigma LaserDisc. Ironically, I got a little card from another "cluey" place called 78 records on the same day dada's called me, saying "We regret to say that the CD single you ordered is unavailable". :) Regards, Jamie "Taking the deep out from the deep" Yoon -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jan 00 23:21:16 -0800 From: Gulliver.Flynn@216.genesplicer.org (Gulliver Flynn) Subject: (Bounced) Another Enigma CD To: Enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To :enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Found another Enigma CD today, an Austrian version of Enigma2/The Cross Of Changes... THis one's a limited edition/gold version with three extra songs: Return To Innocence (Long & Alive Version) Age Of Lonliness (Enigmatic Club Mix) The Eyes Of Truth, The Gotterdaemmerung Mix I don't remember seeing this is in the FAQ or discography, so I thought I'd mention it. If it's already there, sorry. Anyone need a copy? I may be able to get one more, although there are a little high ($US 29). Gulliver Flynn EmacsDLG/DLGTag: Mr. Bullfrog says: Time is fun when you're having flies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 15:01:34 -0600 (CST) From: deicide@rci.ripco.com (Deicide) Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I found a copy of Sandra's Close To Seven cd in a tower records (import)... i went thru it once, it sounds quite different then her ealier stuff, sounds a lot like the Enigma stuff. I guess it came out in 1992, does anyone have the sales figures on this one? I imagine it didn't do as well as the earlier stuff cause it sounds like a radical change to me. -- ...TheEndComplete... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 10:31:01 +0100 From: A.Lint@ET.TUDelft.NL Subject: To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hello, I'm a new member of this mailing list. My name is Alexander Lint and I'm 18 years old. I live near Rotterdam in the Netherlands. I'm currently in my first year at the faculty of electrical engineering of the Delft University of technology. I first got interested in Sandra's music in the summer of 1988, when 'Heaven can wait' and 'Into a secret land' were on the Braun European top 20 (MTV Europe). I decided to rent a CD from a local store. After that I was totally hooked on Sandra's (= Michael Cretu's) music. In october 1990 I used to watch a pop show on German television when Enigma topped the charts with sadeness. When the videoclip was shown I thought I recognized Sandra's voice, and indeed in another German show where Sandra performed that same night, it was annouced that Michael Cretu was the man behind Enigma. I was immediately hooked on Enigma too, and I still am. For me, Micheal Cretu is the best producer/songwriter there is. Other artists I'm into include: J.M.Jarre , The Future Sound of London , Sven Vath , Sunscreem and Deep Forest. My Enigma collection: Note: I haven't got a clue if we have the German of European releases in Holland. -MCMXC a.D. "The limited edition" (original, with hologram) -Sadeness part I European CD5 US digipak CD5 -Mea Culpa part 2 European CD5 -Principles of Lust European CD5 European "Special Limited Edition Club Mix" CD5 (not listed yet in the discography) (Virgin 664 596 / dindz 110 / pm 515) -The Rivers of belief European CD5 -The Cross of Changes (1993 German/Dutch release) -The Eyes of Truth European CD5 -Age of Loneliness European CD5 I've also got quite an extensive collection of Sandra records: -The long Play (CD) -Mirrors (CD) -Ten on One (The Singles) (both CD and Video) -Everlasting love (12") -Into a secret land (CD) -Around My Heart (CD5) -Paintings in Yellow (CD) -Hiroshima (CD5) -(Life May Be) A Big Insanity (CD5) -One more Night (CD5) -Close to seven (CD) -Don't Be Aggressive (CD5) -I Need love (CD5) -Johnny Wanna Live (CD5) -Maria Magdalena 1993 (CD5) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 01:05:19 -0800 From: quad@best.com (Don Gray) Subject: Deep Forest / Mike Oldfield WWW To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma List) Alfredo Cruz wrote: >I know this isn't tha' place for such "un-enigmatic" questions but. . . >Does any one know if DEEP FOREST or MIKE OLDFIELD have a Web location >and/or their own mailing list????? The location for DEEP FOREST is listed below (I don't know about M.O.). When I get some time (hopefully sometime soon), I'll be adding some more to the HTML/Web portion. Take care, Don -- quad@best.com (formerly donpierr@netcom.com) Check out the Deep Forest FAQ & Discography at: http://www.best.com/~quad/quad.html ftp://ftp.best.com/pub/quad/deep.forest/DeepForest-FAQ.txt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 11:30:39 -0800 From: bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org (Brandon Worrell at FH4) Subject: Delerium did not perform at Nettwerk 10th Aniversary To: ENIGMA Distribution List Sorry, there's no Enigma content in this message. I attended the Nettwerk 10th anniversary show in Vancouver B.C. this last weekend. It was supposed to be the first time the Delerium has ever appeared live. Unfortunately (and I did find this out a couple days in advance) Delerium could not make it as one of the members was in L.A. for some reason. The rest of the show with the rest of the Nettwerk artists was quite good, and Kristy Thirsk (vocals on Semantic Spaces) was there with her band Rose Chronicles. --Brandon Worrell bworrell@fhcrc.org Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:59:53 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Delerium did not perform at Nettwerk 10th Aniversary To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi, How much do you know about Rose Chronicles? I really like Kristy Thirsk's voice. Do you know what kind of music Rose Chronicles play? Semantic Spaces is sweet. I hope they make another album as good as that. Thanks. -Alex On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Brandon Worrell at FH4 wrote: > > Sorry, there's no Enigma content in this message. > > I attended the Nettwerk 10th anniversary show in Vancouver B.C. this > last weekend. It was supposed to be the first time the Delerium has > ever appeared live. Unfortunately (and I did find this out a couple > days in advance) Delerium could not make it as one of the members was > in L.A. for some reason. > > The rest of the show with the rest of the Nettwerk artists was quite > good, and Kristy Thirsk (vocals on Semantic Spaces) was there with her > band Rose Chronicles. > > --Brandon Worrell > > > bworrell@fhcrc.org Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 95 18:59:48 CST From: Jim English Subject: digest gone insane?!?! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey, I've gotten like 5 copies of today's digest and I don't even subscribe to digest mode?!?! -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 02:15:07 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: digest gone insane?!?! To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Feb 25, 6:59pm, Jim English wrote: > hey, I've gotten like 5 copies of today's digest and I don't even subscribe > to digest mode?!?! I have become aware of the problem, and at the moment there has been 7 copies of the digest. The reason for this is that this digest could not be delivered to a particular user (whose name appear in the header of this resent digest), and as a result the mail delivery system at his site reports back to the *list*, and not to the owners of the list as is customary. What is worse is that it tries to deliver the digest multiple times. I apologise for the inconvience this creates for you and the other members, but there is little we can do at the moment. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 95 19:20:29 CST From: Jim English Subject: digest gone insane?!?! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) hey, no problem. Just thought it was pretty funny. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:54:23 -0700 (MST) From: "E. T. Schaffner" Subject: Enigma Digest V1 #180 To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > From: Jamie P Yoon > Subject: Enigma T-shirts > That got me thinking.... I have a friend who can silk-screen T-shirts, and > get any sort of image onto them, even pictures from CD-inserts, etc. I could > investigate into it if you guys are interested. That would be really cool! > Personally, I would kill for a T-shirt with the MCMXCad cross on it, or a > t-shirt with "Mea Culpa" and the cross, or the chick wearing the iron > gauntlets on it....a tee-shirt with "I love you" on the front "I'll kill > you" on the back....."Don't be sad" on the front, Carly's Song's Sharon > Stone piccy on the back....Imagine walking around in a tee-shirt with the > front cover of the "Enigma The Principles of Lust" Cd-single on the front, > and "....are burned le from the US, presumably imported from Europe > (Thanks Alex Dedios!) and I can verify that the Australian release is subtly > different: I'd like one with the lyrics of the principles of lust on it (my very very very favorite song), but printed over a light image of the MCMXC a.D. cross. BTW, I saw someone walking around town with an official MCMXC a.D. T-shirt. Very cool. They have that cool picture of the marquis de Sade from the Sadeness, part I single. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Eric T. Schaffner schaffet@Colorado.EDU http://ucsub.Colorado.EDU/~schaffet/Home.html \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ If you believe in the light, it is because of obscurity; If you believe in joy, it is because of sadness; And if you believe in god--it is because of the devil. Father X--Exorcist, Church of Notre Dame, Paris //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:59:55 -0700 (MST) From: "E. T. Schaffner" Subject: Enigma Digest V1 #180 To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > From: Shan-e-Ali Haider > Subject: Rivers of belief/principles > > Hi all. I have a question for all those people out there who have either > Principles of lust CD5 or Rivers Of Belief CD5 or MCMXC LTD Edition (or all > three) Is it really worth the time/money/effort to get these cds? My local > import shop is selling the MCMXc LTD Edition and the Principles Of Lust CD5 > (both for $27.00 each) I mean if the mixes are anything like the Mea Culpa CD5 > I would gladly pay $27 to get the 2 items mentioned above! But if the mixes > are like the ones on "Sadeness" I probably wouldn't! There are three mixes and a radio edit of the principles of lust, all well worth the money (Jazz mix, Omen mix and the Everlasting Lust mix). The everlasting lust mix is the best enigma remix, imho. The rivers of belief is also cool. There's one mix that really stands out, but I can't remember the name. It was a complete rework of the song. --If anyone has an extra CD5 of Mea Culpa or the Rivers of Belief, I'll gladly take it!! -Eric //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Eric T. Schaffner schaffet@Colorado.EDU http://ucsub.Colorado.EDU/~schaffet/Home.html \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ If you believe in the light, it is because of obscurity; If you believe in joy, it is because of sadness; And if you believe in god--it is because of the devil. Father X--Exorcist, Church of Notre Dame, Paris //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:12:30 -0500 (EST) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: Enigma Digest V1 #180 To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > > From: Shan-e-Ali Haider > > Subject: Rivers of belief/principles > > > > Hi all. I have a question for all those people out there who have either > > Principles of lust CD5 or Rivers Of Belief CD5 or MCMXC LTD Edition (or all > > three) Is it really worth the time/money/effort to get these cds? My local > > import shop is selling the MCMXc LTD Edition and the Principles Of Lust CD5 > > (both for $27.00 each) I mean if the mixes are anything like the Mea Culpa CD5 > > I would gladly pay $27 to get the 2 items mentioned above! But if the mixes > > are like the ones on "Sadeness" I probably wouldn't! > > There are three mixes and a radio edit of the principles of lust, all > well worth the money (Jazz mix, Omen mix and the Everlasting Lust mix). > The everlasting lust mix is the best enigma remix, imho. The rivers of > belief is also cool. There's one mix that really stands out, but I can't > remember the name. It was a complete rework of the song. > > --If anyone has an extra CD5 of Mea Culpa or the Rivers of Belief, I'll > gladly take it!! > > -Eric For Eric and anyone else who might be interested, the import shop below has (or atleast did so a week ago) quite a few copies of Mea culpa CD5 (for $10.99) Lakeshore Records: (716)-244-8476 And yes, they do mail order too.. Shan. -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn.Think Of Me And Burn And Let Me Hold Your Hand::::C()R()NA|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:35:11 EST From: wpabst@skidmore.EDU (william pabst) Subject: enigma on the radio To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma list) I dont know if any other list members are in the upstate New York area, but if you are, and you can get 91.1 fm WSPN, tune in tonight (saturdays) from 6-8 pm. The show is called Modern Primitive, and the music is *loads* of Enigma, DCD, Deep Forest, and other related stuff. I hope to reach you on the airwaves! Bill p.s. -anyone tell me what record label is M. Oldfield's "Songs of distant earth?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 02:55:58 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Enigma T-shirts To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au As some Aussies know, The Cross of Changes was released with a crummy quality black T-shirt with the COC "Man" on it. That got me thinking.... I have a friend who can silk-screen T-shirts, and get any sort of image onto them, even pictures from CD-inserts, etc. I could investigate into it if you guys are interested. There probably are legal issues to resolve, but hey, if the shirts were available, I would buy them. They aren't, so I'm going to get them made up. Personally, I would kill for a T-shirt with the MCMXCad cross on it, or a t-shirt with "Mea Culpa" and the cross, or the chick wearing the iron gauntlets on it....a tee-shirt with "I love you" on the front "I'll kill you" on the back....."Don't be sad" on the front, Carly's Song's Sharon Stone piccy on the back....Imagine walking around in a tee-shirt with the front cover of the "Enigma The Principles of Lust" Cd-single on the front, and "....are burned in your mind..." on the back...Whoooo! Any of the pictures from the CD singles, _especially_ from the first Enigma album would work a treat. The mind boggles.... :) This is just a preliminary idea, but I suspect that demand for this sort of thing *will* be strong. Any suggestions? Regards, jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:13:14 EST From: fogelinc@Cyanamid.COM (Carl C. Fogelin) Subject: Enigma T-shirts To: ENIGMA Distribution List I like the idea, a lot, but I think you're going to run into licensing problems real fast. If you limit the pictures to album/single covers, then maybe Gavin's contact through Virgin Records can help. If you want to include a picture from "Sliver", then you need to contact (???) in the movie industry. If you're really serious, go for it. (I would like to see the astrological compass printed on the Cross of Changes CD on the back of a T-shee.) Carl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Fogelin (fogelinc@pt.cyanamid.com) "All opinions are strictly mine" Computer pioneer Seymour Cray, described the characteristics of Virtual Memory Operating Systems as follows: Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:33:16 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Enigma T-shirts To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. > I like the idea, a lot, but I think you're going to run into licensing > problems real fast. If you limit the pictures to album/single covers, > then maybe Gavin's contact through Virgin Records can help. If you > want to include a picture from "Sliver", then you need to contact (???) > in the movie industry. Carl is right. You legally cannot print such a T-shirt without getting permission from the record company and its agent for any artwork used by the music artist, and from the movie company and its agent for any artwork or scenes used by the movie studio. The fact is that if any of them are going to let you use it, you'll have to pay for the right....... > If you're really serious, go for it. (I would like to see the astrological > compass printed on the Cross of Changes CD on the back of a T-shee.) If you're serious about doing it without getting permission/paying royalties, I can only turn a blind eye to it all so I don't get the record companies on mu back. But, hey, maybe a better idea for you to do would be to make your own artwork (any artists out there?) - it is not illegal to use the word Enigma, but if you included the cross or used exactly the same font you may have problems..... Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 17:59:02 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Enigma WWW page reviewed in UK magazine! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day to you all. I am proud to announce that Joar has had the privilege of having his WWW page reviewed in a popular UK magazine called .net - a magazine dedicated to the Internet. He had no idea it would appear. I think I'm not alone in saying Joar has done a great job! Congratulations! Here's the text: > Here's what .net wrote in their .net Directory in the March 1995 > issue. Unfortunately there's a gross error when it comes to which > record company do Enigma... And don't ask me about the title of the > review. > > ***** > > > MYSTERIOUS ART > > Name: Enigma Home Page > > What is it? A series of Web pages about the group Enigma. > > Where you'll find it: http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/Enigma.html > > What's it like? Well, a few commercial sites could learn a lot from > this place - Warner Brothers, for one. Even though the company > handles Enigma, this site blows its IUMA offering away. As with > R.E.M., the task of making a cool Web site for the group has fallen > to the fans, and they've done a sterling job. There are some lovely > images, especially all the Enigma title bars, and plenty of info on > the band is provided - biographies, pictures, discographies... You're > also treated to translations of the French lyrics on the first album, > which make even less sense when you know what they mean. And > the enormous samples are just the icing on the cake. > > Upside: Everything. > > Downside: The samples are a little on the long side. > > Bizarre rating: 3 > > Simon Hindle > > Overall: **** (of 5) > > > Caption on picture: > > Enigma: a chant, a smile and a couple of chart hits. If only all > popular beat combos were as well-served on their Home Pages. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 15:20:15 -0600 (CST) From: [name removed] Subject: Error in WWW Engima|lyrics page To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Engima) Under the lyrics to Engima's "Carly's Song" Joar Grimstvedt has: Carly don't be sad Life is okay Life is mad Don't be afraid I've listed to the Album version twice and I believe it's : Carly don't be sad Life is crazy ^^^^^ life is mad d>on't be afraid if you're getting this from the Silver soundtrack or from a single then it may be different - I haven't checked. know it's picky but - it IS what she's saying. I've tried contacting Joar Grimstvedt at joarg@hsr.no about it - but it gives me unkown host. -- [name removed] _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ University of Wisconsin-Miwaukee _/ _/ Information and Media Technologies _/ _/_/_/ _/ WWW: http://www.uwm.edu/People/phoenix/ _/ _/ _/ E-Mail: phoenix@csd.uwm.edu _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 09:01:05 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Error in WWW Engima|lyrics page To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi Garrett, > Under the lyrics to Engima's "Carly's Song" Joar Grimstvedt has: > > Carly don't be sad > Life is okay > Life is mad > Don't be afraid > > I've listed to the Album version twice and I believe it's : > > Carly don't be sad > Life is crazy > ^^^^^ > life is mad > d>on't be afraid > if you're getting this from the Silver soundtrack or from a single then it may > be different - I haven't checked. > know it's picky but - it IS what she's saying. You are perfectly right, she is singing "life is crazy". I took the lyrics from the booklet of The CROSS Of Changes, and here it says "crazy". I don't know where I got "okay" from. :) Thanks for the correction! Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:53:50 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: EXCLUSIVE Enigma news To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au It is with pleasure that I can officially announce that Michael Cretu is working on Enigma 3. For now this is all the information I can give, but hopefully I will be able to report more in the next few months. In other news, I have now also established contact with Michael Cretu's and Sandra's manager located in Germany. The first letter I advised you all of sending Michael Cretu in August 1994 was passed on to him, and I will shortly be passing on to him another letter along with questions he and his manager will answer as soon as possible. So all in all, great news! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:33:28 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: Eyes of Truth To: Enigma Mailing List I had a question about the Eyes of Truth album version. About three minutes into the song, there is a break in the main music, and all there is is some long, held out notes with a relaxing back rythm. From here on out in the song, there seems to be in the background what sounds to be a man's voice, as if being heard over an old radio or television. It almost reminds me of what the old astronauts sounded like while talking to Mission Control. I was curious if anyone knew what this sample was, and what it was about? I am curious, because if you listen carefully the rest of the CD, the voice is there, but low enough, and distorted enough, that it's hard to decide what the guy is saying. It fits the song so well, I was curious about it tho. Any help? Thanks all. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:24:01 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Eyes of Truth To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. > About three minutes into the song, there is a break in the main music, > and all there is is some long, held out notes with a relaxing back > rythm. From here on out in the song, there seems to be in the background > what sounds to be a man's voice, as if being heard over an old radio or > television. It almost reminds me of what the old astronauts sounded like > while talking to Mission Control. I know the same you are talking about, and many people claim it is a sample taken from NASA. Another person has said that if you listen to what is being said you can make out the words "There's something wrong with the roller- coaster". I must admit that I seem to hear this being said too, but whether rollercoaster is some NASA term or something a spokesman is making a comparison to is beyond me. > I was curious if anyone knew what this sample was, and what it was > about? I am curious, because if you listen carefully the rest of the CD, > the voice is there, but low enough, and distorted enough, that it's hard > to decide what the guy is saying. It fits the song so well, I was > curious about it tho. When compiling the FAQ I tried to work it out but came to no conclusion. As for the sample, you'll find it used for most of the track (it's extremely low in volume in some spots [eg - during the bombastic choir part]). Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 19:46:58 +0000 From: Richard Travett Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all, I was watching a film review program here in England last night, and the showed a clip which contained some music that sounded very Deep Forest like. Has anyone seen the film, or knows who did it. I think they are doing a more full review of it next week, so maybe they will say then, but maybe not. I can't be too specific about when the clip appears in the film, but there is a catwalk scene where they have made it look as if it has been snowing, and it is the music that is playing then. Anyone shed any light on this please? -- Bye for now //// Rick :-) (o o) +====================================================oOO==(_)==OOo=========+ I Richard Travett, Cambridge, England. rick@phantasm.demon.co.uk I I Amateur Radio aka: G8XYS@GB7MHD.#22.GBR.EU or g8xys@g8xys.ampr.org I +==========================================================================+ If Adam and Eve were created by God - Did they have tummy buttons? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:34:38 +0100 From: A.Lint@ET.TUDelft.NL Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Tue, 21 Feb 1995, Richard Travett wrote: > Hi all, > > I was watching a film review program here in England last night, and the > showed a clip which contained some music that sounded very Deep Forest > like. Has anyone seen the film, or knows who did it. I think they are doing > a more full review of it next week, so maybe they will say then, but maybe > not. > > I can't be too specific about when the clip appears in the film, but there > is a catwalk scene where they have made it look as if it has been snowing, > and it is the music that is playing then. > > Anyone shed any light on this please? > > -- > Bye for now > Rick :-) I believe the film review progam you mean is FILM '95 on BBC 1. I noticed the music too. The clip was from the film Pret-a-Porter. I don't know who made the film. You should be able get more information about the movie, because it's quite a big release. I think I heard that Deep Forest contributed a track to the movie's soundtrack. It probably will be that song. I don't know if the soundtrack is already available in Europe, but one song has been released on single: Ini Kamoze's "here comes the hotstepper". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 12:52:41 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: ENIGMA Distribution List Richard, > I was watching a film review program here in England last night, and the > showed a clip which contained some music that sounded very Deep Forest > like. Has anyone seen the film, or knows who did it. I think they are doing > a more full review of it next week, so maybe they will say then, but maybe > not. The song is indeed by Deep Forest, and it is called 'Martha'. They've been playing it for quite a while on the radio here, and I like it a lot. It doesn't sound ethnic or anything - it has a woman's singing which they use as the melody, that's basically it. They also have a magnifient solo with a violin-like sound (remiscent of Youssou N'Dour's 'Undecided'). I'm not sure if it has been released on single here, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has. The film is supposedly about the fashion industry. I believe it is called something else than Pret-A-Porter in the USA. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:27:29 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: ENIGMA Distribution List > > The song is indeed by Deep Forest, and it is called 'Martha'. They've > been playing it for quite a while on the radio here, and I like it > a lot. It doesn't sound ethnic or anything - it has a woman's singing > which they use as the melody, that's basically it. They also have > a magnifient solo with a violin-like sound (remiscent of Youssou N'Dour's > 'Undecided'). I'm not sure if it has been released on single here, but > I wouldn't be surprised if it has. I really wish that would be release in the US. It sounds like a great song. I hear Deep Forest has some Enigma style quality to it. And what's the latest on Enigma3? > > The film is supposedly about the fashion industry. I believe it is > called something else other than Pret-a-Porte in the US. As a side note here, it has been releases in the US and is called Ready to Wear. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:43:32 "CST From: Jim English Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > > > > The song is indeed by Deep Forest, and it is called 'Martha'. They've > > been playing it for quite a while on the radio here, and I like it > > a lot. It doesn't sound ethnic or anything - it has a woman's singing > > which they use as the melody, that's basically it. They also have > > a magnifient solo with a violin-like sound (remiscent of Youssou N'Dour's > > 'Undecided'). I'm not sure if it has been released on single here, but > > I wouldn't be surprised if it has. > > I really wish that would be release in the US. It sounds like a great > song. I hear Deep Forest has some Enigma style quality to it. And > what's the latest on Enigma3? > > > > > The film is supposedly about the fashion industry. I believe it is > > called something else other than Pret-a-Porte in the US. > > As a side note here, it has been releases in the US and is called Ready to > Wear. > I really think it is stupid that film companies feel they have to rename like every film when it goes over to europe. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 11:16:30 PST From: "Bert Lo" Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jim English wrote: [ Deep Forest's Martha in Pret A Porter ] > As a side note here, it has been releases in the US and is called Ready to > Wear. I really think it is stupid that film companies feel they have to rename like every film when it goes over to europe. The film was originally titled Pret A Porter (even for US release) but its name was changed to Ready To Wear (for US release) because US audiences were supposedly too stupid to understand even that small amount of French. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:03:23 CST From: Jim English Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > > Jim English wrote: > > [ Deep Forest's Martha in Pret A Porter ] > > > As a side note here, it has been releases in the US and is called Ready > to > > Wear. > > I really think it is stupid that film companies feel they have to rename > like every film when it goes over to europe. > > The film was originally titled Pret A Porter (even for US release) but its > name was changed to Ready To Wear (for US release) because US audiences were > supposedly too stupid to understand even that small amount of French. ouch, i eat my words. It's stupid then that they changed it for US audiences. :) Other films have been changed going the other way though (ie In bed with Madonna) hmmm, so where was the films origin? I heard it was crap anyway, but it also has a Bjork song in it from Gling Glo. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:34:39 +0100 From: A.Lint@ET.TUDelft.NL Subject: Film: Pret-A-Porter music To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Alex Summers wrote: > > > > The song is indeed by Deep Forest, and it is called 'Martha'. They've > > been playing it for quite a while on the radio here, and I like it > > a lot. It doesn't sound ethnic or anything - it has a woman's singing > > which they use as the melody, that's basically it. They also have > > a magnifient solo with a violin-like sound (remiscent of Youssou N'Dour's > > 'Undecided'). I'm not sure if it has been released on single here, but > > I wouldn't be surprised if it has. > > > l8rz... > Drewmeister > > Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 > "Reality will never be the same." > > The violin-like sound on Undecided may well be the same sound as the one on Martha because Deep Forest have remixed the song. The Deep Forest version is used in the video and as radio-edit. Alexander Lint ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:49:26 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Forwarded introduction of Blackjack To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Forwarded message: >From winna@ucsub.colorado.edu Tue Feb 21 10:25:58 1995 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 16:25:51 -0700 (MST) From: Blackjack To: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gavin, Hello, my name is Andy Winn and I am 19 years old. I am a Freshman at the University of Colorado at Boulder. My Enigma collection includes the MCMXC a.D. album as well as The Cross of Changes. I first heard Enigma when I was in high school about two years ago. Wait a minute. I just remembered that I actually first heard Enigma when they popular "mix" station in Denver used to play Sadness Pt. 1 all the time about four or so years ago. Plus, a friend of mine had that album and we used to listen to it quite often. I am a psychology major and I would like very much to work with the Native American people as a liason. I also want to learn more about the Native American and Hawaiian Shamanistic traditions. Well, that's about all I can think of to write about at this point. So take it easy and thanks alot for making this mailing list available. Blackjack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 18:03:14 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Friendly reminder To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day. Just a friendly reminder to you all that this is not a PC Hardware mailing list and therefore all this CD-ROM talk is getting a bit too much. Please remember to stay on the topics of this newsgroup at least most of the time! Thanks, Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:25:59 -0600 (CST) From: [name removed] Subject: Greetings fellow Engima fans! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Engima) Well, I suppose I should introduce myself: My name is [name removed] and I'm a 19 year-old student at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. I've been a very avid Enigma fan ever since my friend let me hear 'Mea Culpa' one day - which he had, in turn, heard from another friend. I currently own both Enigma Albums including the Sliver soundtrack with Carley's Song on it. My favorite Engima song is probably either 'The Silent Warrior' or 'Mea Culpa' but I pretty much like them all. Can't wait until Engima 3 comes out which M.C is allegedly working on right now. I have one question that I'd like to ask right away though. Does anyone know of where I might be able to purchase a complete collection of the 7 or so music videos that have been made? I'l be willing to pay a resonable amout of $$$ for it, too. Looking forward to hearing from you all! -- _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ [name removed] _/ _/ University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee _/ _/_/_/ _/ Information and Media Technologies _/ _/ _/ E-Mail: phoenix@csd.uwm.edu _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 01:59:34 -0500 (EST) From: Thong Huu Le Subject: HI!!! To: Enigma Listserv A warm greetings to everyone from a new member! My name is Thong Le, but I go by TOM since it sounds more like how my name is pronounced in Vietnamese. I am 21 years old, actually will be 21 on Feb. 26. My CD collection consists of Enigma: MCMX a.D., The Cross of Changes, and Remixes of Sadness Part I. I first heard of Enigma when it first came out on the radio. As to how much of a fan I am, let's just say that everytime one of my friends hear Enigma blasting, they automatically think of me. Enigma was all that I pretty much listened to. I like other groups such as DEEP FOREST which remind me somewhat of Enigma, strange as it may seem. And my interest lies in many different categories of music, mostly New Age and Dance. I am presently going to school at EMORY University in Atlanta Georgia (Home of 1996 Olympics). I was born in Vietnam and raised in France and then moved to the US at the age of 10. Hope you didn't get too bored reading this! ;-) Sincerely, Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 19:27:09 MET-0100 From: "SUSTR PAVEL" Subject: Hi! Hi! Hi! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi there! --------- As I'm a new member of this mailing list, there's something I owe you: My Homework (what an ugly word!) -------------------------------- My full name is Pavel Sustr. Well, it's a male name, so you can simply deduce I'm a man. In fact, I'm the young man (some stupid people call it "boy" :-), because I was born in the middle of the summer holiday, on August 17th 1975 (I know it exactly, because it's just on the day of my birthday &:-). I'm 183 cm tall, 70 kg, wavy black hair, yellow-green eyes, one head, one nose, one love, one life... (oh, sorrrrrry, I just translated "One" from "U2" into my mother language a little while ago... #-). I live in the most beautiful place (for me) of the Czech Republic, on the "Drahanska vrchovina" highlands , in the little picturesque village called "Hrochov" (which looks like a hole by the war grenade :-D. Now I study at the Technical University in Brno, faculty of electrical engineering and computer science. Well, where did I first hear Enigma? I remember it was in 1990 or 1991 and it was the album "MCMXC a. D." By chance, one of my friends lent me his demo cassette and as his songs were short, he recorded some extra tracks to fill out the blank. And it was Enigma (please, don't ask me for my friend's address to destroy this barbarian, he's really innocent +:-). Later Enigma became famous and I heard "Sadeness Part I" on the radio every day (:-\ by the way, do you know in former Czechoslovakia it was forbidden to broadcast "Sadeness" due to Sandra's excited (and exciting! ;-) breath in one part of this song? - looks like the communists were the gays). Now I'm a big fan of Enigma, Enigma is one of two groups, whose new album I'd buy immediately without previous listening (the second one is One More Time due to their fantastic vocals). At this time I own "MCMXC a. D.", Limited Edition, and "The CROSS Of Changes". Besides Enigma and One More Time I like (the shortened and censored list follows in additional 10Mb file #:-o :-): ABBA, Bad Boys Blue, Belinda Carlisle, Bonnie Tyler, Bon Jovi, Blue System, Bjorn Again, Cappella, Dance 2 Trance, Enya, Erasure, Helloween, Jean Michel Jarre, Karya, Kim Wilde, Kylie Minogue, Laser Dance, Let Loose, O.M.D., Maggie Reilly, Mike Oldfield, Pet Shop Boys, Queen, ROXETTE, of course Sandra, Sophie B. Hawkins, Sting, The KLF, U2, Vangelis, disco, techno, rave, melodious rock, soundtracks, some serious music and many, many more... ( = everything except heavy metal and something I call "MTV's Worst But Wanted - it's when the group of very hungry looking "natural singers" produces a terrible sound with the horrifying video about the destruction of the world or other pleasant daily matters - God bless them.... #:-). -------------------------------- Well, my homework is over, it's time for my first request: 1. Is there anyone who has lyrics to MCMXC, a.D., Ltd. Edt., including Latin parts? I've found "Principles Of Lust" and "Mea Culpa" excellently transcribed on ftp.uwp.edu, so I would appreciate "Callas Went Away", "The Voice & The Snake", "Knocking On Forbidden Doors" as well as "Back To The Rivers Of Belief"... 2. I'd love to know more about you, the other members of this mailing list. Is there any possibility to get a piece of information about your age, nationality, interests and s.o. (this one might be something for the administrators)? "Life is like a hen-house ladder. Short and..." (|-D) Enjoy, Pavel. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: Mea Culpa Lyrics To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. This question is directed more towards Joar and Gavin, but any help would be appreciated. In Mea Culpa (at least the Fading Shades mix), shouldn't the following line be as follows: "Je te desire " should be "Je tu de fee" The WWW site endicates the former, namely Je te desire Also, the phrase "Prends moi [*]" which has been indicated by an asterisk to show that "it is unclear what they are saying" doesn't it sound more like "phom" than "prends moi" or is "prends moi" pronounced like "phom" Just wondering. Shan -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn:C()R()N/\ Je Veux Aller Au Bout De Mes Fantasmes:Mea Culpa|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:39:06 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Mea Culpa Lyrics To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Howdy. You wrote: > In Mea Culpa (at least the Fading Shades mix), shouldn't the following > line be as follows: > > "Je te desire " should be "Je tu de fee" > > The WWW site endicates the former, namely Je te desire > > Also, the phrase "Prends moi [*]" which has been indicated by an asterisk to > show that "it is unclear what they are saying" doesn't it sound more > like "phom" than "prends moi" or is "prends moi" pronounced like "phom" My official answer is I can't tell you! The translation included in the FAQ was not written by Joar or I, and is not credited since the person who did the translation never gave his/her name. If anyone here can fluently speak and understand French, feel free to do a new translation of the tracks and send them to me. My only concern is that you mentioned the Fading Shades Mix of Mea Culpa. It is often the chase that lyrics change in remixes - the translations are for the radio edits or album versions only. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 17:06:44 PST From: "Bert Lo" Subject: Mea Culpa Lyrics To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > In Mea Culpa (at least the Fading Shades mix), shouldn't the following > line be as follows: > > "Je te desire " should be "Je tu de fee" "Je tu de fee" makes no sense in French whereas "Je te desire" does ("I want you"). > Also, the phrase "Prends moi [*]" which has been indicated by an asterisk to > show that "it is unclear what they are saying" doesn't it sound more > like "phom" than "prends moi" or is "prends moi" pronounced like "phom" "Prends moi" means "take me" and is pronounced like "prong mwa". "Phom" is not a French word. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:21:04 -0500 (EST) From: HARRIS@middlebury.edu Subject: meditation To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Don wrote: HH> immediately as an album, I began to really appreciate the album and HH> it has been my primary listening for meditation exercises. I just want what sort of meditation do you do to this? *************** What I often to is after a long day I sit on my futon bed, turn off all the lights, and just lie down and close my eyes. I often try to think of dreams or thoughts or things that would never happen in real life. It is almost as if I enter another reality, and the music becomes a background. I have noticed sometimes that when I fall asleep with Enigma left on, I have incredible dreams, dreams that are extraordinary. It would be interesting to see developes in the mind when it is in a state of sleep with music on. -james harris@middlebury.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 13:09:41 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Mike Oldfield's Mac To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Can't for the life of me see why Oldfield's got a MAC. He may of put a > great CD out, the second in 20 odd years, but a MAC?! Oh God! > > * RM 1.3 02178 * > > That's blatant flame bait. Most sane people who want to improve their productivity have a Macintosh, and they're not necessarily artists either. Those who want to techno-wank have a pee-cee. Mike Oldfield spent less time worrying about his autoexec.bat, his win.ini, his irq for his sound equipment, etc,etc, and more time on creating music we love. By the way, who wrote QuickTime, the basis of many multimedia CD-ROMs? I wonder.... Try looking at the GF4 Sooner or later multi-media CD-ROM multi-platform single ($4.95). It absolutely sucks on a PeeCee, but runs superbly on the Mac. But this is way off the Enigma discussion. Let it end here. Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 95 20:47:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.com.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD'S MAC To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jamie P Yoon bleated - JY> Mike Oldfield spent less time worrying about his autoexec.bat, his JY> win.ini, his irq for his sound equipment, etc,etc, and more time on JY> creating music we love. unlike Micheal Cretu does? Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:21:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SONGS OF DI To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jim asked - JE> of the CD. Anyone out there care to comment on the formats and such? JE> Is it a PC or MAC or both CD-ROM format? Just curious, I never really it's MAC format as well as graphics that are MAC format. Can be played on your normal CD player or IBM CD Rom player provided you start it from track 2. Can't for the life of me see why Oldfield's got a MAC. He may of put a great CD out, the second in 20 odd years, but a MAC?! Oh God! * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 11:33:12 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: MIKE OLDFIELD SONGS OF DI To: ENIGMA Distribution List > Can be played on your normal CD player or IBM CD Rom player provided you > start it from track 2. > > Can't for the life of me see why Oldfield's got a MAC. He may of put a > great CD out, the second in 20 odd years, but a MAC?! Oh God! > > * RM 1.3 02178 * > Is this the original CD you're talking about and not some special edition? I plan on getting it once I find it. I guess I'm going to give CD connection a shot. BTW, I own both a PC and a Mac and I have to admit, A PC may be a computer but a Mac is a *tool*. It was born to do graphics and sound. I can easily see why MO used the Mac format. From my experiences, Macs work much more smoothly. -Alex de Dios -----------------------------FAS User Services------------------------------- -------------------------PC/Mac Network Specialist--------------------------- --------------------------adedios@fas.harvard.edu---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 22:20:59 CST From: Jim English Subject: Mike Oldfield Songs of Distant Earth - cd-rom? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey, I just read about this album (Oldfield - Songs of Distant Earth), and was wondering if it really had CD-ROM data on it. It says (in this article in Future Music magazine) that there are pictures to go along with parts of the CD. Anyone out there care to comment on the formats and such? Is it a PC or MAC or both CD-ROM format? Just curious, I never really paid much attention to the Oldfield chat about the list, but the CD-ROM bit struck me as interesting. There's something that should be incorporated into Enigma 3. Wouldn't that be something! -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:33:36 +1100 (EST) From: MICHAEL LUKE Subject: Mike Oldfield Songs of Distant Earth - cd-rom? To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Jim English wrote: > hey, I just read about this album (Oldfield - Songs of Distant Earth), and > was wondering if it really had CD-ROM data on it. It says (in this article > in Future Music magazine) that there are pictures to go along with parts > of the CD. Anyone out there care to comment on the formats and such? > Is it a PC or MAC or both CD-ROM format? Just curious, I never really > paid much attention to the Oldfield chat about the list, but the CD-ROM > bit struck me as interesting. There's something that should be incorporated > into Enigma 3. Wouldn't that be something! > -jim > >> Just a very brief note -- YES track (1) on the CD is a CD-ROM track. It is in Macintosh format. To be able to use it you must have a 68020-equipped macintosh (at least) with a color monitor and be running System 7.01 or later (obviously you'll need a cdom also). If you want any more info on the tracks or installing the cd-rom, let me know. You never know if i get enough time free, i might post a review of the album. - Michael Luke - mluke@ozemail.com.au "Please wear hardhats - tagline under construction" > ______________________________________________________________________________ > Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu > > The University of Tulsa is anal. > > "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ > Sitting on the dashboard of my car." > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 8:51:35 CST From: Jim English Subject: Mike Oldfield Songs of Distant Earth - cd-rom? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > of the CD. Anyone out there care to comment on the formats and such? > > Is it a PC or MAC or both CD-ROM format? Just curious, I never really > > paid much attention to the Oldfield chat about the list, but the CD-ROM > > bit struck me as interesting. There's something that should be incorporated > > into Enigma 3. Wouldn't that be something! > > -jim > > > >> Just a very brief note -- YES track (1) on the CD is a CD-ROM track. > It is in Macintosh format. To be able to use it you must have a > 68020-equipped macintosh (at least) with a color monitor and be running > System 7.01 or later (obviously you'll need a cdom also). Thanks for the info. It figures that the first time someone did something cool he would choose the wrong platform to do it on. Not that MAC's aren't decent computers, but I would say that its not the majority PC. Maybe things are different in the UK? I guess I will forego my quest for the CD-ROM, and possible try to get the regular CD. What exactly is on it? If it is simple data (quicktime movies/pictures), and I _bought_ a copy of the CD-ROM would someone be willing to "flatten" them so they were PC viewable? -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 09:24:14 -0600 (CST) From: Giles Christie Subject: Mike Oldfield Songs of Distant Earth - cd-rom? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > Thanks for the info. It figures that the first time someone did something > cool he would choose the wrong platform to do it on. Not that MAC's aren't > decent computers, but I would say that its not the majority PC. Maybe > things are different in the UK? I guess I will forego my quest for the > CD-ROM, and possible try to get the regular CD. What exactly is on it? > If it is simple data (quicktime movies/pictures), and I _bought_ a copy > of the CD-ROM would someone be willing to "flatten" them so they were PC > viewable? > -jim > Actually, Billy Idol did the same damn thing with that Cyberpunk CD. I know this isn't really related, but he released a limited edition version with a 3.5" MAC diskette. I think it's because MAC's still have their reputation as the artsy/musical computer and so stuff like this gets released on them... I think the least Mike could do is release a PC one as well though. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:53:42 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: Mission Control Samples To: Enigma Mailing List Has anyone been able to decipher the "mission control" samples in Eyes of Truth, other than the "rollercoaster" statement? I have been trying unsuccessfully. Thanks. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:10:57 -0600 (CST) From: Condit Jodi E Subject: More Fun With Samples. To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi, I joined a while ago but sinfully neglected to do the intro mail thing. My name is Jodi Condit, I am a junior at Southwest Missouri State University in Springfield, MO. I am a drafting major, and plan on being a landscape architect eventually. I like listening to Enigma with my Blue lightbulb turned on, and usually I get inspired to do artwork or some such. I only have the standard first two albums, U.S. release, since I live here. I am really excited about the next one. Other music I like: Enya, Clannad, Nine Inch Nails, Mozart(esp. his Requiem), Wagner, and many movie soundtracks like the one from _Frankenstein_ and _Last of the Mohicans_ Maybe this has already been brought up on the list, but a friend and I noticed a sample we thought was from Led Zeppelin...It's on Enigma2, _The CROSS of Changes_, "I'll Love You ... I'll Kill you", about 3:20 into the song, and it is "Bring it back...bring it back..." We thought we had heard it before toward the end of Zeppelin's "Battle of Evermore" off of the Led Zep IV album. It doesn't REALLY sound like an exact sample, but the rhythm, pitch, etc., is strikingly similar. Are any of you familiar enough with Led Zeppelin and that song? Jodi "Inner silence is for our race a difficult acheivement." *** C.S. Lewis, "Perelandra" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 95 06:48:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.com.au (DON WEIR) Subject: MORE FUN WITH SAMPLES. To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Condit Jodi E said - CE> We thought we had heard it before toward the end of Zeppelin's "Battle CE> Evermore" off CE> of the Led Zep IV album. It doesn't REALLY sound like an exact sample, CE> the rhythm, pitch, etc., is strikingly similar. well, we are both mad then! When I brought this up I was booed etc. This sampling is on the German/Dutch release of '93. It's been replaced on the Winbourne pressing...i.e. the one released in Oz in '94 and the gold limited edition. There is improved acoustics and better defined bass on the one you have too. Keep it! I guess Peter Grant has been onto Cretu. What do you think? Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 13:54:59 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: New member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well, I have just been added to this list, so here's a quick introductory paragraph on me... My name is Drew Rub, netnamed Alex Summers. I am a 22 yr old senior st the Universtiy of Evansville, located in Indiana, US. I have been listening to Enigma for the past two years (almost non stop) after first hearing the MCMXC a.D. album from my best friend. I fell in love with Enigma's relaxed, almost mystical style, and eventuall got the tape for myself. I have added to my collection of late by picking up the following: Return to Innocence CD single; Enigma2, the Cross of Changes CD; Michael Cretu, DCM (sorry, can't spell it off the top of my head) CD; Out from the Deep CD single; and finally, Enigma: the Videos ($10 for ten min of video). I am pleased with everything I have picked up lately...and am looking forward to getting more stuff. My roomie here at school as the limied edition of Enigma2..and the last two remixes are the best. Other artists I like are Clannad, Yanni, John Tesh, and most groups who have relaxation/meditation styled music. And working in the news department at the local Fox affiliate, it's interesting to go into the audio room, and toss in a Enigma CD and crank it through the tech center. Ticks off a few of the others, tho, when I do that. I am interested in finding others wqho reall ylike Enigma, and may know more about the group, their history, and any possible concert dates, if they do concerts very often. and just general talk about the best musical group out there. For now, that's all....take care all... l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 15:06:50 -0500 (EST) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: New member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hmm.. Why "Alex Summers"? Is that related to "Havok" from the "X-Men" Just curious. Shan P.S Just in case you don't know what I was babbling about Havok is a character in the comic book "X-Men" -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn.Think Of Me And Burn And Let Me Hold Your Hand::::C()R()NA|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:19:25 -0600 From: bwess@mail.internet.com.mx (Boris Wesslowski) Subject: New member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi! I am a new member of the Enigma mailing list (since yesterday, feb. 22), my name is Boris Wesslowski and I am 19 years old. As you can see by my adress, I live in Mexico (city), where Enigma is not widely known or heard. Here I go to the german school (I speak spanish and german fluent, but have some troubles with english; please excuse my mistakes). Although I have been calling local BBS's for almost a year, I just recently managed to get Internet access (and this is in fact the first list I subscribe to :) I like Enigma very much but know very little about it. I got to this list because of a reference in the Deep Forest (which I hear all the time) FAQ. Hoping to have some interesting postings in the near future... Saludos! :) ________________________________________________________________________________ Boris Wesslowski bwess@mail.internet.com.mx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:40:59 -0600 (CST) From: deicide@rci.ripco.com (Deicide) Subject: New member To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > Hi! > I am a new member of the Enigma mailing list (since yesterday, feb. 22), my > name is Boris Wesslowski and I am 19 years old. As you can see by my adress, > I live in Mexico (city), where Enigma is not widely known or heard. Here I > go to the german school (I speak spanish and german fluent, but have some > troubles with english; please excuse my mistakes). > Although I have been calling local BBS's for almost a year, I just recently > managed to get Internet access (and this is in fact the first list I > subscribe to :) > I like Enigma very much but know very little about it. I got to this list > because of a reference in the Deep Forest (which I hear all the time) FAQ. > Hoping to h Polish in Mexico? -- ...TheEndComplete... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 23:03:18 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Alonso Subject: New Member To: Enigma Hello fellow Enigma fans. I've just recently signed up for this list after reading about it on one of the Usenet groups. My name is Robert and I am a part-time student at the University of Maryland College Park. I'm 25 years old and first heard of Enigma in 1991, when Sadeness was released. I have The Cross of Changes, MCMXC a.D., and the CD single for Return To Innocence. I am an adult advisor to a catholic youth group and have used Return To Innocence in prayer services and as a mood setter on retreats. My musical tastes are varied, but tend to favor "alternative" artists (whatever that term means now). Just wondering, how many albums has Enigma released? I want to make sure that my collection is complete. Have a good day! Robert Alonso ralonso@wam.umd.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 95 18:48:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.com.au (DON WEIR) Subject: NEW MEMBER To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Robert, Welcome to the list! You said - RA> I am an adult advisor to a catholic youth group and have used RA> Return To Innocence in prayer services and as a mood setter on retreats I'm very interested in hearing what success you have in your prayer services with the playing of the first Enigma album, MCMXCaD. Particularly so with the second track. Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:56:22 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: New member (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Forwarded message: >From ruszkows@cig.mot.com Tue Feb 21 00:47:34 1995 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 07:47:28 -0600 From: "John H. Ruszkowski" Message-Id: <199502201347.HAA21276@crawdad.cig.mot.com> To: gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Subject: New member X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Motif 2.01 94/10/14) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Id: <4845_20928_793288047_2@crawdad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gavin Stok, My name is John H. Ruszkowski. I am 45 years old and have been an Enigma fan ever since their first release. My Enigma collection consists of the following: Enigma MCMXCaD Sadness Part 1 Mea Culpa Part II Enigma-The Cross of Changes Out from the Deep Return to Innocence Age of Loneliness The Ultimate Compilation-Real Sadness & Other Gregorian Mysteries I am still on the market for the other three Re-mixes which would complete my Enigma collection. Other artists whom I like are Yani, Vangelis, and Hans Zimmer. There are few Rock grates which I also like very much. They are Queen, Moody Blues, Rod Steward, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, and numerous other rock legends. I live in a small community just northwest of Chicago. I am employed at Motorola (Cellular division) as a Project Technical Writer responsible for software documentation on their adjunct product. I have been writing since 1978. I am glad to be a member of the Enigma user group. I consider them to be the best modern group around. What makes them great is the style of their music. I hope that I will be able to see them perform at a live concert here in Chicago (I don't know if they do live concerts or not). I hope to be a very active member of the group and a contributor to any information which I may come across. John H. Ruszkowski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:35:58 PST From: Kenneth Harrigan Subject: New person To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, rhd@is1.tracor.com Hello every one, my name is Kenneth Harrigan. On the surface, I appear to be yet another 23 year old who greatly admires Enigma. However, the reality is completely different. After listening to Enigma's MCMXC a.D., I admired Michael Cretu's use of modern technology to weave a complete sonic palette that fully engages the listener. I wanted to study his "style" of composition and instrumentation. Over the last couple of years, I bought all of the various remixes and extended versions I could find. After seeing the FAQ, I am surprised to know that the list of works is so extensive. I thought that I was "lucky" just to find what I could. Now I guess that I have even more stuff to buy. Oh well. I find it interesting that the FAQ does not mention the album that Michael Cretu made with Tissy Thiers. Although the album is not a "normal" Cretu creation, it does deserve a mention. So there it is... After studying Cretu's style of composition and instrumentation, I hope to release works of my own and perhaps one day "teach" the teacher. Hey! Dreams can happen. In order to afford such ambitious vision, I work seemingly non-stop in the management consulting practice at a Big-6 accounting firm. However, music is my life, and Cretu's style is my passion. The day will come. Any other information I'd like to share (after spilling my guts)? Yes. Does anyone know if Cretu performs publicly? Does Sandra? Thanks, -KLH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 22:02:41 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: New person To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Kenneth, and welcome to the list! > Over the last couple of years, I bought all of the various remixes and extended versions I could find. After seeing the > FAQ, I am surprised to know that the list of works is so extensive. I thought that I was "lucky" just to find what I could. > Now I guess that I have even more stuff to buy. Oh well. Believe me, you're not alone with that fact!!!! > I find it interesting that the FAQ does not mention the album that Michael Cretu made with Tissy Thiers. Although the > album is not a "normal" Cretu creation, it does deserve a mention. So there it is... Tissy Thiers rings a bell, but I think I had no other information except for that he actually did work with them. If you have any information at all, please send it to me personally or to the list in the style you see in the discograph- ies. > After studying Cretu's style of composition and instrumentation, I hope to release works of my own and perhaps one day > "teach" the teacher. Hey! Dreams can happen. I think I'm not alone in saying that I'd be interested if you could give me some idea of exactly what that style is. Would you be interested in writing an article, review, paper, or whatever else you'd like to call it? Depending on how it goes, I may include it in the FAQ and FTP site (with full acknowledge- ment of course!). Also, how did you learn of his style? As for teaching the teacher, good luck!!! It's taken me months just to get through to his manager, who is now liasing with him on behalf of myself and the mailing list (speaking of which, if anyone has some short questions they want to ask Michael Cretu, please pass them on to me personally. No guarantee can be given that it will be passed on.) > Any other information I'd like to share (after spilling my guts)? Yes. Does anyone know if Cretu performs publicly? > Does Sandra? I have no evidence of Cretu performing publicly. It is an extremely common question and something I generally defend. Let's face it - Cretu and Enigma are studio artists, not live artists. People argue that Vangelis and Jarre perform live and therefore Cretu can, but many people who have seen Vangelis or Jarre also complain about how much of it was "faked" (ie - off tape). I will be asking him if he has any intentions of live performances in the near future to gauge his response however. As for Sandra, I believe she used to do some touring in the early-mid 1980's but have not seen any evidence of her performing recently. For now, Sandra and Cretu will be finishing off her new album due out in Europe in April. Happy listening! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:22:37 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: New person To: ENIGMA Distribution List > Any other information I'd like to share (after spilling my guts)? Yes. Does anyone know if Cretu performs publicly? > Does Sandra? > A very good question...one to which I am also curious. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 18:14:43 -0500 (EST) From: HARRIS@middlebury.edu Subject: new user To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Dear Enigma listeners, I have been looking for a mailing list dedicated to Enigma for ages and I am relieved to find that such a list does exist. I have been incredibly influenced by Enigma's music to a great degree because it is complex in structure and exposition. Musically, michael cretu has a formula which is both brilliant and very original. I first heard of the band enigma like many other people; hearing the single 'Return to Innocence' over the radio. The song immediately stood out in a rotation of Stone Temple Pilots, Nirvana and typical alternative bands and I was taken back. Rarely does a song just click, and how it sounded foreign appealed to me even more. I got 'Cross of changes' soon after I heard RETURN TO INNOENCE and at first I had thought I had wasted $15, but after a few times, the whole album took on an identity of its own and I have played it many times for meditation and relaxation. It seems as though Cross of Changes is not only a complicated work, but one that seems to go through many different cycles of the mind. I got MCMXC this summer, and though it also didn't click immediately as an album, I began to really appreciate the album and it has been my primary listening for meditation exercises. I just want to say hello to all other users. Does anyone out there compose in the style of Enigma? I hope to get to know al of you soon. sincerely james harris@middlebury.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 10:06:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.com.au (DON WEIR) Subject: NEW USER To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au James HARRIS said, HH> I have been looking for a mailing list dedicated to Enigma for HH> ages and I am relieved to find that such a list does exist. I have a newsgroup called alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc does exist. I have not accessed it myself, but intend to subscribe to it tonite on a site where it's available and where I've just signed up to. HH> immediately as an album, I began to really appreciate the album and HH> it has been my primary listening for meditation exercises. I just want what sort of meditation do you do to this? HH> Does anyone out there compose in the style of Enigma? Not I. But I've gotten hold of a couple of samples that are set for maximum trance effect. Don * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:20:38 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: NEW USER To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, DON WEIR wrote: > > > James HARRIS said, > > HH> I have been looking for a mailing list dedicated to Enigma for > HH> ages and I am relieved to find that such a list does exist. I have > > a newsgroup called alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc does exist. I have not accessed > it myself, but intend to subscribe to it tonite on a site where it's > available and where I've just signed up to. > I currently subscribe to this newsgroup. It is a descent group discussing other artist in the same genre of Enigma. Many of the other readers can suggest titles of albums, new musicians, opinions, and reviews of music along the lines of Enigma, DCD, Sarah McLaughlin, et al. IMHO, this newsgroup is a rather useful newsgroup for finding the styles of music that, once again MHO, are the best. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 03:45:14 +0000 From: Wei-hang.Chua.1@uni.massey.ac.nz Subject: OFTD in OZ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au What format was the OFTD single released as, in Australia? Was it a DigiPak or a Jewel case. I recently (2 weeks ago) bought the OFTD single in New Zealand at the shop: Mango Music The Square Palmerston North NEW ZEALAND for NZ$9.95 (A$8.45). It wasn't labelled as an import as this store usually does with imports, so I was unaware whether they were an Australasian release or imports as these were Made in Holland and were in jewel cases. I thought all the Australasian releases would have been in the DigiPak case. Wei --------------------------------------------------------------------- Wei-Hang Chua Wei-hang.Chua.1@uni.massey.ac.nz Massey University Palmerston North NEW ZEALAND GMT+13 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:14:19 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: OFTD in OZ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Wei-Hang. > What format was the OFTD single released as, in Australia? Was it a DigiPak or > a Jewel case. I recently (2 weeks ago) bought the OFTD single in New Zealand > at the shop: It was the thin plastic jewel case. Everything about it is identical to the other countries. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 14:35:39 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: OFTD Video in OZ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au In VideoHits on Channel 10 in Australia, Out From The Deep was shown as a "prediction hit" - I only saw the last couple of minutes of the video, and it had a strong ancient roman flavour to it - it seemed to depict the lost continent of Atlantis, and there was a roman centurion waking up and rubbing his eyes in the scene. Overall it was very consistent in quality c/w other Enigma videos. I hope we see more of it. Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 15:12:45 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: OFTD Video in OZ To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Jamie P Yoon wrote: > In VideoHits on Channel 10 in Australia, Out From The Deep was shown as a > "prediction hit" - I only saw the last couple of minutes of the video, > and it had a strong ancient roman flavour to it - it seemed to depict the > lost continent of Atlantis, and there was a roman centurion waking up and > rubbing his eyes in the scene. Any chance MTV or VH1 here in the US has been playing this one as a "buzz clip" or preview type video? Also, anyone know where I can get the entire tape of all of Enigma's videos? Someone said they had done a video for all opf the songs off of MCMXC a.D., and I weould love to have that video. And can anyone tell me if Sandra was the lead female in either the Sadeness Part I or Mea Culpa Part II videos? My roommate and I are attempting to figure out if she was one of the two females. > Overall it was very consistent in quality c/w other Enigma videos. Cool, can't wait to see it. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 16:59:00 -0700 (MST) From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: OFTD Video in OZ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) >> In VideoHits on Channel 10 in Australia, Out From The Deep was shown as >> a "prediction hit" > > Any chance MTV or VH1 here in the US has been playing this one as a > "buzz clip" or preview type video? Not likely, as Charisma seem to have no plans to release it asn a single here. It was promoed in the States last summer and went nowhere. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: http://rt66.com/lazlo/ features Discographies, Record ::: Collecting Resources, The Internet Music Wantlists, and more. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:25:59 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: OFTD Video in OZ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. > clip" or preview type video? Also, anyone know where I can get the > entire tape of all of Enigma's videos? Someone said they had done a video At the moment you can't commercially, you can only buy "MCMXC a.D. - The Video Album" which has all the music videos from the first album. It is only available locally from the UK. > for all opf the songs off of MCMXC a.D., and I weould love to have that > video. And can anyone tell me if Sandra was the lead female in either > the Sadeness Part I or Mea Culpa Part II videos? My roommate and I are > attempting to figure out if she was one of the two females. Lead female as in singing or as in appearance in the music video? Singing wise, she sings in both, appearance wise she only appears in Sadeness. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 09:07:58 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: OFTD Video in OZ To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Feb 13, 6:25pm, Gavin Stok wrote: > > video. And can anyone tell me if Sandra was the lead female in either > > the Sadeness Part I or Mea Culpa Part II videos? My roommate and I are > > attempting to figure out if she was one of the two females. > > Lead female as in singing or as in appearance in the music video? > Singing wise, she sings in both, appearance wise she only appears in > Sadeness. Nope, Sandra does *not* appear in the video for Sadeness, that is another girl. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:54:48 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Kokenes Subject: OFTD Video in OZ To: ENIGMA Distribution List > >> In VideoHits on Channel 10 in Australia, Out From The Deep was shown as > >> a "prediction hit" > > > > Any chance MTV or VH1 here in the US has been playing this one as a > > "buzz clip" or preview type video? > > Not likely, as Charisma seem to have no plans to release it asn a single here. > It was promoed in the States last summer and went nowhere. Just got my copy of the Out From the Deep single here in the U.S. (Chicago) I found mine as an import. $10. Definately worth it. -Necro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 01:34:54 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Oz OFTD single different! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I just got the CD-single from the US, presumably imported from Europe (Thanks Alex Dedios!) and I can verify that the Australian release is subtly different: The European release is made in Holland; the CD has a *black* background with *white* writing. The "Out From the Deep" tag on the cover is a dark *blue*. The Australian release is made in Australia, by Digital Audio Technologies Australia, and has a *white* background* with *black* writing. The tag on the cover is a *purple*.... As to which one sounds better. Hehehehe...... BTW, I think it is no coincidence that Australasia is the only place where all Enigma CD's have been released (as has been mentioned previously?), and that we have an Australian president ;-) Regards, Jamie (now Out From the Deep) -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 14:45:28 "CST From: Jim English Subject: PAL and NTSC To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey all, is anyone here fleuent in the differences between PAL and NTSC? ie is it all in the TV or are the VCRs fundamentally different? I'm guessing that the only diff (between power comsumption) is in the TV's scan freq. The reason I'm curious is I just ordered a copy of the Complete video album (:) ) which is of course in PAL format (I'm looking for a place in town to conver it for me), but am just curious as to the aspects that the differences have on the audio/video equipment. thanks -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:18:04 CST From: Giles Christie Subject: PAL and NTSC To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > hey all, is anyone here fleuent in the differences between PAL and > NTSC? ie is it all in the TV or are the VCRs fundamentally different? > I'm guessing that the only diff (between power comsumption) is in the TV's > scan freq. The reason I'm curious is I just ordered a copy of the Complete > video album (:) ) which is of course in PAL format (I'm looking for a > place in town to conver it for me), but am just curious as to the > aspects that the differences have on the audio/video equipment. Well, from what little I can recall from my RTV 151 course... :) PAL and NTSC are TOTALLY different. As I recall, PAL has more scanlines than NTSC so there is no way the equipment could be compatible... and I think there is a frequency difference too (since NTSC is timed on the AC current). There may be other differences, but I guess you'll be looking at a bit of resolution loss at least. Giles Who NEVER thought he'd have to remember this stuff after the final. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 95 19:00:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: PLEASE HELP ME: OUT FROM To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jamie P Yoon said - JY> I am livid! I am extremely pissed off! In my effort to track a copy of JY> Out From The Deep, the single, I've hit wall after wall. Ear-Rational have a copy as do Red Eye Records in Sydney. NOW!! * RM 1.3 02178 * Some things have to be believed to be seen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 03:44:39 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Please help me: Out from the Deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au I am livid! I am extremely pissed off! In my effort to track a copy of Out From The Deep, the single, I've hit wall after wall. In essence: I want to tell all Enigma subscribers: _STAY AWAY FROM TOWER RECORDS_ I contacted some local importers. Sure, they took down the CD number and even a credit card number, but they just told me the "CD doesn't exist". But dig this: I called up Tower Records in London about a week and a half ago. I was put on hold for a total of 10 minutes, while I was shuffled from 1 department to another. "Hi, I'm calling from Perth Australia" Tower Records: one moment please. <3 minutes later> TR:"Tower Records Mail Order" JY:"Yes, I'd like to order a CD single called Enigma out from the deep, its --" "One moment please, I'll check my catalog" <3 minutes later> TR:"I don't have it" JY:"Let me give you the serial number" TR:"Okay, checking the catalog...." < 3 minutes later> TR:"It doesn't exist" JY: I have friends in Europe who have the CD! I've seen a picture of it!" I repeated the request to 3 different people within the tower records, and finally one person realise what I was asking for. "I'm sorry we don't have stock, I'll have to order it" JY: Can I at least leave a credit card number and place an order? TR: No, why don't you call back next week? JY: I beg your pardon? Is this the mail order division or not? I swore at the guy and hung up. I called _again_ This time I told the receptionist NOT to transfer me at all and explained how (1) livid I was (2) How ridiculous it was that I couldn't place an order (3) No one knew what the hell was going on. Finally, a lady called "venece" took my details down, and placed an order, and even gave me a reference number. Excellent, at least some sanity exists, I thought. Not so. I was just got off the phone from Tower, and they've told me again that my order was cancelled because the "CD doesn't exist". AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! And I'm out for $40 for the overseas calls....... Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:22:39 +0000 (GMT) From: steinbir@rhi.hi.is (Steingrimur Birgisson) Subject: Please help me: Out from the Deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au If you're in trouble getting Enigma stuff, you can always try to browse CD Connection, a Internet online CD store. To connect, just do "telnet cdconnection.com" and there you have: iMP73922 ENIGMA OUT FROM THE DEEP $11.09 IMPORT SINGLE among others. I've bought CDs several times from CD Connection and I've nothing to complain about them. -- Enjoy the ______ SURFace _____ steinbir@rhi.hi.is ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 19:41:32 -0800 From: bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org (Brandon Worrell at FH4) Subject: Re[2]: related music stuff To: ENIGMA Distribution List >As for Sarah McLachlan, she's another of my fav artists. She's >recorded three albums, along with "The Freedom Sessions", a collection of >eight re-works of tunes from her most recent album, "Fumbling Towards >Ecstasy", and a cover of an old Tom Waits tune, Ol' 55. Her two albums >previous to Fumbling, are Solace and the album from which "Touch" came ( I >can't be of any more help here). Both, particularly the latter, are p >probably hard to come by. You might try one of the on-lines record stores. >I'm told they're good with rarities, but I myself have never used them. As >for Fumbing Towards Ecstasy, all I can say is get it. It's wonderful, if >you like "Posession", I can just about guarantee you'll like the album. The >Freedom sessions, on the other hand, I don't have, and it doesn't look like >their going to bother to release any singles (I live quite near her >original hometown, Halofax, Nova Scotia, almost everything she does seems >to get played here). >-Joseph MacKay Actually, besides her three albums and the Freedom Sessions there have been many CD singles. There is another version of the Freedom Sessions that people on the list might be interested in: The Freedom Sessions CD+MM 6/20/94 W0-6321 Track Listing: Multi-media track including full length videos, behind the scenes photos, and commentary by Sarah, Elsewhere, Plenty, Mary, Good Enough, Hold On, Ice Cream, Ice, Ol' 55 I've heard that her new album will also be released in a Multi-media version. Here are her current singles that are still available and can be ordered from Netwerk records: W2-3035 Steaming(radio & dance)/Solsbury Hill (live) W2-3056 Path of Thorns(radio & album)/Shelter(bass/violin mix) W2-3063 Into the Fire/Sad Clown(string version)/Black(string version) W2-3065 Drawn to the Rhythm/Gloomy Sunday(live)/Drawn to the Rhythm W2-3070 Vox(extended mix)/Vox(dub)/Into the Fire(ext remix) W2-6319 Possession(version 1 & 2)/Fear(Jane's mix) W2-3078 Hold On(verson 1 & 2)/Mary(early demo version) W2-3081 Good Enough (album, re-mix, unplugged)/Blue For more info point your WWW browser to: http://www.wimsey.com/nettwerk/ This site also has some great info and sounds from Delerium. --Brandon bworrell@fhcrc.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 95 21:55:18 CST From: Jim English Subject: Re[2]: related music stuff To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > Actually, besides her three albums and the Freedom Sessions there have been > many CD singles. There is another version of the Freedom Sessions that > people on the list might be interested in: > > The Freedom Sessions CD+MM 6/20/94 W0-6321 > Track Listing: Multi-media track including full length videos, > behind the scenes photos, and commentary by Sarah, Elsewhere, > Plenty, Mary, Good Enough, Hold On, Ice Cream, Ice, Ol' 55 > > I've heard that her new album will also be released in a Multi-media > version. Here are her current singles that are still available and can be > ordered from Netwerk records: > please define multimedia. We have MPC (PC Cd-ROM), CD-I (what a joke), CD+G (another joke), and MAC (well, we've been through that one). I get tired of the way companies throw around the term multi-media too loosely. any additional info on Enigma3 from Virgin? -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:42:54 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Re[2]: related music stuff To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Jim. > any additional info on Enigma3 from Virgin? I sent off a letter to Michael/Enigma's manager just the other day, asking him and Michael around 9 questions each. I would not expect any word back for at least a month or so. Be patient. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 21:31:02 CST From: Jim English Subject: Re[2]: related music stuff To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) > > Hi Jim. > > > any additional info on Enigma3 from Virgin? > > I sent off a letter to Michael/Enigma's manager just the other day, > asking him and Michael around 9 questions each. I would not expect any > word back for at least a month or so. > > > Be patient. > > Gavin Stok > (Enigma Mailing List President) > cool, I was just wondering what the good word was. A big congrats and thanks for all the great connections you have made to make this a great and informative list. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 02:41:29 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Recommended CDs To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Try out the new digitally remastered "The Celts" album by Enya. While it isn't exactly like enigma, it is pretty soothing, as far as Enya goes. For something more different, try the new BladeRunner CD from Vangelis (Released April 1994), this is NOT the orchestral adaptation which really sucked. BladeRunner - 4509-96574-2, France CA851, East-West Music, Warner Music. Excerpt from CD insert: "Most of the music contained in this album orginates from recordings I made in London in 1982, whilst working on the score for the film BLADE RUNNER. Finding myself unable to release these recordings at the time, it is with great pleasure that I am able to do so now. Some of the pieces contained will be known to you from the Original Soundtrack of the film, whilst others are appearing here for the first time. Looking back at Ridley Scott's powerful and evocative pictures left me as stimulated as before, and made the recompiling of this music, today, an enjoyable experience". Its 2:30 in the morning, so I won't do a full review, needless to say I feel that the music would suit the tastes of many of this Enigma mailing list. Track #4, "Rachel's Song" sounds remarkably like Loreena McKennit. The other songs are unmistakenably Vangelis. The atmosphere of BladeRunner is dark, brooding, swirling, evocative and moody, but in a less "Bibilical/spiritual" sense, especially when compared with Enigma MCMXC aD. However, it follows the more traditional "new age" type genre, as opposed to the more avant garde approach of Enigma. Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 23:19:40 EST From: wpabst@skidmore.EDU (william pabst) Subject: related music stuff To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma list) Hey Enigma folks. I have been hearing about some artists that are supposedly in a vein that would appeal to Enigma enthusiasts, but I have never heard them myself so I am hesitant to buy. Could anyone help me out with some album or style reviews of any of the following: -Loreena McKennitt -Patrick O'hearn -Culture Beat -Patrick Moraz and Bill Bruford -Mickey Hart -Kraftwerk -Orb -Gabrielle Roth and the mirrors -Maire Brennan -Praise I guess that's about it. You know, I just got b-tribes' Fiesta Fatal, and had no idea it was such a blatant rip-off. Enigma flamenco style. Craziness. Is any of their other stuff worth the trouble? Please share your knowledge/opinions. The list is a little quite lately anyway. thanks in advance, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 05:32:46 -0500 (EST) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: related music stuff To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > > Hey Enigma folks. > I have been hearing about some artists that are supposedly in a vein > that would appeal to Enigma enthusiasts, but I have never heard them > myself so I am hesitant to buy. Could anyone help me out > with some album or style reviews of any of the following: > > -Loreena McKennitt > -Patrick O'hearn > -Culture Beat Well Culture Beat might appeal to *SOME* Enigma fans, but I doubt that they appeal to ALL (but I might be wrong). I, for one, love Culture Beat. Their album SERENITY is awesome.. Infact that is one album on which ALL the songs are great. I guess their music can best be classified as dance music. The woman (what's her name) sings the major portion of the lyrics,which are pretty good too. I would reccomend buying the album if you are into dance music.. Shan > -Patrick Moraz and Bill Bruford > -Mickey Hart > -Kraftwerk > -Orb > -Gabrielle Roth and the mirrors > -Maire Brennan > -Praise > > I guess that's about it. You know, I just got b-tribes' Fiesta Fatal, > and had no idea it was such a blatant rip-off. Enigma flamenco > style. Craziness. Is any of their other stuff worth the trouble? > Please share your knowledge/opinions. The list is a little quite > lately anyway. > thanks in advance, > Bill > > > > > > > > -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn.Think Of Me And Burn And Let Me Hold Your Hand::::C()R()NA|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 00:42:25 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: related music stuff To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Bill. > I have been hearing about some artists that are supposedly in a vein > that would appeal to Enigma enthusiasts, but I have never heard them > myself so I am hesitant to buy. Could anyone help me out > with some album or style reviews of any of the following: I will be brief but concise: > -Patrick O'hearn Great artist but only similarity to Enigma is that he gets some good atmospheres. Buy "Private Music of Patrick O'Hearn" (his best-of) and take it from there. His music grows on you. > -Culture Beat Serenity, their latest album, is great, but there are no similarities to be had with Enigma except for the fact that "Serenity(Prolog)" has the same principle as "The Voice of Enigma" in introducing the album. The album itself is dance but most of the tracks are damn good. > -Orb Very trippy and trancey and weird. I only have "U.F.Orb" and am not taken away by it. I can't see any similarities with Enigma. > I guess that's about it. You know, I just got b-tribes' Fiesta Fatal, > and had no idea it was such a blatant rip-off. Enigma flamenco > style. Craziness. Is any of their other stuff worth the trouble? Yeah it's a bit repetitive, badly mixed, and has some blatant Enigma take-offs. > Please share your knowledge/opinions. The list is a little quite > lately anyway. Actually the traffic has been quite normal. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 95 21:14:24 CST From: DIGR Subject: related music stuff To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi Bill. In reply ot your quest for information, I have some on Loreena McKinnett. She has a heavy Celtic and Pagan influence to her music and uses a lot of traditional instruments. She puts a lot of research into traditional music styles and history when writing songs and compiling records. If you look at her latest record, "The Mask and The Mirror," especially the jacket, you will see this. She has a clear voice which I feel that she uses wonderfully. Her music combines both songs that she has written herself, and others that are her versions of traditional Celtic songs. I bought my first album by her on a lark, never having heard of her before, and after one listening, I fell in love and have all of her records that I could get. Of them, I strongly recommend "The Mask and the Mirror," and "The Visit." She does some instrumentals which are enchanting, and while you may find that she is different from Enigma, I think that you will like her if you like music that is founded in more traditional styles and variant from more popular styles. She has almost as strong a following as Enigma, and she used to have her own bulletin board on the net, which has since faded out (although I do not know why?). Also of interest may be the fact that she produces her own albums and has her own production group and therefore is in control of all aspects of her music. You can send for more information and/or Cds by writing to Quinlan Road R.R. #5, Box 933 Stratford, Ontario, Canada N5A 7M3 I hope you enjoy her if you do decide to try her out. If you want any more infomration on her, please ask. Dawn Lrr1@midway.uchicago.edu P.S. Another lead for good music which you might consider is the earlier work of Sarah McLachan (i.e., "Touch" and "Solace") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 21:09:37 -0800 From: apostol@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (== Golden ==) Subject: related music stuff To: ENIGMA Distribution List Greetings, I'm new to this list and first heard of Enigma when _Age of Innocence_ became popular. After buying that album, I was hooked and purchased anything else I could get. I've noticed a discussion of Enigma like groups -- does anyone have any recommendations? I've heard that Delirium is similiar. Is that true? Thanks in advance. ____________________________________________________________________________ Bj Apostol aka Golden "still whining after all these years...." _Interview with the Vampire_ ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:43:55 +0100 From: A.Lint@ET.TUDelft.NL Subject: related music stuff To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Mon, 20 Feb 1995, william pabst wrote: > > Hey Enigma folks. > I have been hearing about some artists that are supposedly in a vein > that would appeal to Enigma enthusiasts, but I have never heard them > myself so I am hesitant to buy. Could anyone help me out > with some album or style reviews of any of the following: > > -Loreena McKennitt > -...... Try The Future Sound of London's "Papua new Guinea" if you can find it. It also has ethnic chants on it (I think it's the only song that equalled Enigma in atmosphere and power). It was released as a single in Europe a few years ago (1991/1992?). MTV Europe still sometimes plays the video late at night (since it wasn't such a big hit this means they must like it too). I believe the song was included on the Accelerator album. If you have access to the world wide web, you can check out their home page, just search a few archives with links to artists home pages. Alexander Lint. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 00:01:30 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: related music stuff To: ENIGMA Distribution List > >In reply ot your quest for information, I have some on Loreena McKinnett. > ... > As for Loreena McKinnit, I've only heard The Mask and Mirror (which I have) and The Visit (which I had on lend for a while). The first track on the Mask, The Mystic's Dream is quite likely to attract Enigma fans (it's my favorite of her's). Her work, to my knowledge, as a general rule, is simply brilliant. It is quite spiritual in nature. As for Sarah McLachlan, she's another of my fav artists. She's recorded three albums, along with "The Freedom Sessions", a collection of eight re-works of tunes from her most recent album, "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy", and a cover of an old Tom Waits tune, Ol' 55. Her two albums previous to Fumbling, are Solace and the album from which "Touch" came ( I can't be of any more help here). Both, particularly the latter, are probably hard to come by. You might try one of the on-lines record stores. I'm told they're good with rarities, but I myself have never used them. As for Fumbing Towards Ecstasy, all I can say is get it. It's wonderful, if you like "Posession", I can just about guarantee you'll like the album. The Freedom sessions, on the other hand, I don't have, and it doesn't look like their going to bother to release any singles (I live quite near her original hometown, Halofax, Nova Scotia, almost everything she does seems to get played here). -Joseph MacKay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 03:50:18 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Reliable source: Out from the deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au After my out from the deep saga, I'm going to repeat a request I posted up a couple of weeks ago. Is there any _reliable_ source of the Out from the Deep single? C'mon guys, if you can pick it up from a local store, I will not only reimburse you the costs, I will _pay_ you to get me a copy. Please! I checked out that American place that was suggested some time back, but it seems like a 1 man operation, and he doesn't take a credit card, but wanted a money order. I don't really like sending money to a black hole with no guarantee... Please help! Regards, Jamie PS: On a more positive note, I just received Semantic Spaces, and its great! kudos to Nettwerk for prompt, efficient and friendly service. I recommend them wholeheartedly.. -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Reliable source: Out from the deep To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi, I have come across this single quite a few times at Tower and a couple of other CD stores lately. The copy here in the US costs about US$10.99. Pretty expensive but it is listed as an import. If you still want it at that price I can get it for you. Mail me for details if you like. I know what it's like to want something but can't get hold of it. (Tecmo Co. I hope you're reading this!!) -Alex On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Jamie P Yoon wrote: > After my out from the deep saga, I'm going to repeat a request I posted > up a couple of weeks ago. > > Is there any _reliable_ source of the Out from the Deep single? > C'mon guys, if you can pick it up from a local store, I will not only > reimburse you the costs, I will _pay_ you to get me a copy. Please! > > I checked out that American place that was suggested some time back, but > it seems like a 1 man operation, and he doesn't take a credit card, but > wanted a money order. I don't really like sending money to a black hole > with no guarantee... > > > > Please help! > > Regards, Jamie > > PS: On a more positive note, I just received Semantic Spaces, and its > great! kudos to Nettwerk for prompt, efficient and friendly service. > I recommend them wholeheartedly.. > > -- > | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | > | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | > | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:08:40 -0500 (EST) From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Reliable source: Out from the deep To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hello, On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Jamie P Yoon wrote: > Is there any _reliable_ source of the Out from the Deep single? > C'mon guys, if you can pick it up from a local store, I will not only > reimburse you the costs, I will _pay_ you to get me a copy. Please! > > I checked out that American place that was suggested some time back, but > it seems like a 1 man operation, and he doesn't take a credit card, but > wanted a money order. I don't really like sending money to a black hole > with no guarantee... Plenty of places to choose from: + me - a store in Clemson is selling it - ~ $10.00 (sorry, no VISA, but I'll sell it at cost :-) + Worldwide CD - (312) 665-0030 - $10.00 - VISA + Jewel Records - (214) 255-5624 - $10.00 (found at GEMM) (VISA) + EAR/Rational - ear-rational@xmission.com (SUB: CATALOG) - $9.25 (check or money order, but is supposedly very good) -- John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html A n d T h r o u g h T h e W i r e P e t e r G a b r i e l http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/pg.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 13:08:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Pavel P. Groisman" Subject: Reliable source: Out from the deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Jamie! I bursted in tears while reading your message. I bought my copy of "Out from the deep" in local "Media Play" store for $7.99. As of yesterday, they had at least two more copies left. If you have any suggestions or ideas you want to share with me in this situation feel free to e-mail me to the following adress: "cons103@titan.oit.umass.edu". If it doesn't get through, try "cons103@titan.ucs.umass.edu" Good luck, Pasha. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:19:27 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Reliable source: Out from the deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day! > I bursted in tears while reading your message. I bought my copy of > "Out from the deep" in local "Media Play" store for $7.99. As of yesterday, > they had at least two more copies left. If you have any suggestions or > ideas you want to share with me in this situation feel free to e-mail > me to the following adress: "cons103@titan.oit.umass.edu". If it > doesn't get through, try "cons103@titan.ucs.umass.edu" Can people in America please confirm for me whether it has been released LOCALLY (ie - not imported). If so, please give full details of this release. "Out from the Deep" is truely proving to be one of the most confusing Enigma releases ever!!!! Gavin "also looking for it" Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 14:31:48 CST From: Jim English Subject: Reliable source: Out from the deep To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (ENIGMA Distribution List) There is no US Out From the Deep release Gavin. The only one I've seen here is the European release. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa is anal. "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 19:42:22 -0700 (MST) From: "E. T. Schaffner" Subject: Resigning my lurker status To: The Enigma Mailing List I've finally decided to give up my lurker status in this group. My name is Eric Schaffner. I am studying molecular biology at the University of Colorado in Boulder. I first was introduced to Enigma in 1992 by a friend. I was absolutely blown away when I heard MCMXC a.D. and immediately bought a copy. Last year, I counted the days until the Cross of Changes was released! I'm steadily building my collection of single releases and anxiously await Enigma # and Sandra's next album. Other types of music I listen to: Loreena McKennitt, Enya, Clannad, Maire Brennan, Dead Can Dance, Deep Forest, Peter Gabriel, etc... I have a large interest in musics from all over the world, especially Africa and the Middle East. That pretty much does it! -Eric //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Eric T. Schaffner schaffet@Colorado.EDU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:14:14 -0500 (EST) From: Shan-e-Ali Haider Subject: Rivers of belief/principles To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi all. I have a question for all those people out there who have either Principles of lust CD5 or Rivers Of Belief CD5 or MCMXC LTD Edition (or all three) Is it really worth the time/money/effort to get these cds? My local import shop is selling the MCMXc LTD Edition and the Principles Of Lust CD5 (both for $27.00 each) I mean if the mixes are anything like the Mea Culpa CD5 I would gladly pay $27 to get the 2 items mentioned above! But if the mixes are like the ones on "Sadeness" I probably wouldn't! I believe there are 2 mixes on the Principle CD5. How many are on the Rivers Of Belief CD5? All in all I think it would be better to get the MCmXc Ltd edition (which has an extra mix of Rivers oF Belief and the Principles of lUst) for $27.00 than pay $27 for the Principles CD5, which only has 2 mixes! Comments? Suggestions? Shan -- **********************************************************************|PET | Won't You Teach Me How To Love And Learn? There'll Be Nothing Left For|SHOP| Me To Yearn.Think Of Me And Burn And Let Me Hold Your Hand::::C()R()NA|BOYS| **********************************************************************|RULE| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:29:02 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Rivers of belief/principles To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. > Hi all. I have a question for all those people out there who have either > Principles of lust CD5 or Rivers Of Belief CD5 or MCMXC LTD Edition (or all > three) Is it really worth the time/money/effort to get these cds? My local > import shop is selling the MCMXc LTD Edition and the Principles Of Lust CD5 > (both for $27.00 each) I mean if the mixes are anything like the Mea Culpa CD5 > I would gladly pay $27 to get the 2 items mentioned above! But if the mixes > are like the ones on "Sadeness" I probably wouldn't! $27 for a single???? DON'T BUY IT!!! It's cheaper to buy it through online music stores like CDNow.com, CDEurope.com and so on.... As for MCMXC a.D. Lt. Ed., it is worth $27 (remembering it is a CD, not a single). > I believe there are 2 mixes on the Principle CD5. How many are on the > Rivers Of Belief CD5? All in all I think it would be better to get the MCmXc > Ltd edition (which has an extra mix of Rivers oF Belief and the Principles > of lUst) for $27.00 than pay $27 for the Principles CD5, which only has 2 mixes! > Comments? Suggestions? Those extra tracks are also the best remixes from each single (with the exception of Sadness to some people). So my advice is just buy MCMXC a.D. 'Ltd. Ed.' Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 22:17:17 -0700 (MST) From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Rivers of belief/principles To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma) >> My local import shop is selling the MCMXc LTD Edition and the >> Principles Of Lust CD5 (both for $27.00 each) > > $27 for a single???? DON'T BUY IT!!! It's cheaper to buy it through > online music stores like CDNow.com, CDEurope.com and so on.... If you can suggest *any* source, online or offline, for the "Principles of Lust" single I'd like to hear about it, $27 or not! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: http://rt66.com/lazlo/ features Discographies, Record ::: Collecting Resources, The Internet Music Wantlists, and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:02:07 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Alonso Subject: RTI in prayer To: Enigma Hello Don! I've ONLY used Return To Innocence for prayer services, and have never used anything from MCMXC a.D. in prayer. I've used songs from The Cross of Chages to set a tone for reflection, which worked quite well. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 16:42:27 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Summers Subject: RTI in prayer To: Robert Alonso On Sat, 25 Feb 1995, Robert Alonso wrote: > > Hello Don! I've ONLY used Return To Innocence for prayer > services, and have never used anything from MCMXC a.D. in prayer. I've > used songs from The Cross of Chages to set a tone for reflection, which > worked quite well. > I haven't quite thought of RTI in a prayer setting. How well did it go, and what was the use of the song? I know what the song says and can understand that, I was curious as to how you used it tho. And why nithing from MCMXC a.D.? Nothing you felt worked right? And as for reflectin on the second album, which songs? I know which ones effect me, which onces did you use? Sorry for so many question. l8rz... Drewmeister Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 "Reality will never be the same." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 14:25:29 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Alonso Subject: RTI in prayer To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Sat, 25 Feb 1995, Alex Summers wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 1995, Robert Alonso wrote: > > > > > Hello Don! I've ONLY used Return To Innocence for prayer > > services, and have never used anything from MCMXC a.D. in prayer. I've > > used songs from The Cross of Chages to set a tone for reflection, which > > worked quite well. > > > > I haven't quite thought of RTI in a prayer setting. How well did it go, > and what was the use of the song? I know what the song says and can > understand that, I was curious as to how you used it tho. And why > nithing from MCMXC a.D.? Nothing you felt worked right? And as for > reflectin on the second album, which songs? I know which ones effect me, > which onces did you use? Sorry for so many question. > > l8rz... > Drewmeister > > Altered Dimensions2 MUSH: spruce.evansville.edu 6250 > "Reality will never be the same." > > > The subject for the class I used RTI dealt with fear and what that causes us to do and not to do. Fear of rejection, of not fitting in, any insecurities they may have. The class I teach is for 8th graders (around 13 yrs old) who will be going into high school next year. They had a lot of apprehensions about that and we had a real good discussion on how to overcome them. They came to the conslusion that one of the best ways to compensate for fear is by being yourself and not let your fear control you. Then I used the song for closing prayer/reflection. One thing I learned about using music with youth is that it must be a song they heard of or by an artist they heard of. And it's very helpful to have the lyrics printed out so that they understand what is being said and that there is no question about what the song's message is. As far as other songs from A Cross Of Changes, we do a lot of journal writing in class, so I would play the album in the backgound while we were writing. I haven't really given any thought to using MCMXC a.D. in class since I'm partial to A Cross Of Changes. While I'm on the subject, I've also used Whitney Houston's Greatest Love Of All, Cyndi Lauper's True Colors, Rod Stewart's Forever Young, and Madonna's I'll Remember, to name a few. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 14:53:18 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Somers Subject: RTI in prayer To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Sun, 26 Feb 1995, Robert Alonso wrote: > > The subject for the class I used RTI dealt with fear and what > that causes us to do and not to do. Fear of rejection, of not fitting > in, any insecurities they may have. The class I teach is for 8th graders > (around 13 yrs old) who will be going into high school next year. They > had a lot of apprehensions about that and we had a real good discussion > on how to overcome them. They came to the conslusion that one of the > best ways to compensate for fear is by being yourself and not let your > fear control you. Then I used the song for closing prayer/reflection. > > One thing I learned about using music with youth is that it must > be a song they heard of or by an artist they heard of. And it's very > helpful to have the lyrics printed out so that they understand what is > being said and that there is no question about what the song's message is. > > As far as other songs from A Cross Of Changes, we do a lot of > journal writing in class, so I would play the album in the backgound > while we were writing. > > I haven't really given any thought to using MCMXC a.D. in class > since I'm partial to A Cross Of Changes. > > While I'm on the subject, I've also used Whitney Houston's > Greatest Love Of All, Cyndi Lauper's True Colors, Rod Stewart's Forever > Young, and Madonna's I'll Remember, to name a few. > > Robert I'm brand spanking new to this list and will be posting my "biography" soon, but I couldn't help but reply to this series of posts...I'm not a religious person, but I do get into my own kind of meditation, and I use Enigma quite often...There's just something about the beat that seems to sooth me...I can see how you would use the songs for prayer also, as for some, it is very calming... Tim Somers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 11:02:20 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: Sacred Spirit To: ENIGMA Distribution List This Sacred Spirit bit interests me... I don't suppose I could bother anyone to post a complete review... (I'd be happy to review B-TRib's Fiesta Fatal, in return). ------------------------------------ Doug MacKay The Daily News, Halifax (902) 468-1222 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:59:00 +1000 From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Subject: SACRED SPIRIT --- MI˙˙˙˙˙ To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ML> >> P.S. --> Ozzies after "Out from the Deep" can grab a copy from ML> >> either Red Eye records in Sydney or Gaslight Records in Melb ML> >> (03) 6509009. wait a week and you'll get it for $8 anywhere in Oz. D * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:30:00 GMT+1 From: "Joar Grimstvedt" Subject: SACRED SPIRIT --- MICHEL (fwd) To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Subject: SACRED SPIRIT --- MICHEL From: don.weir@mcc.sydpcug.org.au (DON WEIR) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 18:16:00 +1000 Organization: My Computer Company BBS, Australia [+61] (02) 565-1044 Norman said re. Sacred Spirit - WW> My friend suspects Michel Cretu might be involved in the album. WW> Have anyone heard about this group or their origin ? If you do, WW> please advise. I heard a single last Nov a couple of times. Not comparable to Deep Forest or Enigma. Sorta like a tacky Baka Beyond on the Ryko. Cretu involved? Doubt it. D * RM 1.3 02178 * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 18:16:07 CST From: WEY56369@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU Subject: Sacred Spirit --- Michel Cretu ??? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi: A friend of mine told me about an Enigma-sound-alike by the name of "Sacred Spirit." Like the Enigma 1, one of the producer refused to reveal his/her true identity and chose to remain anonymous. My friend suspects Michel Cretu might be involved in the album. Have anyone heard about this group or their origin ? If you do, please advise. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:56:05 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Sacred Spirit --- Michel Cretu ??? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au G'day Norman. > A friend of mine told me about an Enigma-sound-alike by the name of > "Sacred Spirit." Like the Enigma 1, one of the producer refused to > reveal his/her true identity and chose to remain anonymous. > My friend suspects Michel Cretu might be involved in the album. > Have anyone heard about this group or their origin ? If you do, > please advise. The album "Sacred Spirit" was first released in Australia and was released on Virgin, the same record label as Enigma's. I can confirm that it is NOT Michael Cretu who is involved in this release. If you get some of the singles, you will find that, while it is not the real person, there is a credit given to someone (it's something like The North American Indian Production). As for the album itself, I'd say that some of it is good, but wouldn't go much further. However I am basing this on listening to it publicly once or twice. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:36:02 GMT From: Neil Perry Media Tech Subject: Sacred Spirit --- Michel Cretu ??? To: WEY56369@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU, enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au If anybody knows where to get sacrid spirit from please reply oh have you heard semantic spaces by delerium?? stlg:-) Neil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 22:11:28 +1100 (EST) From: JM Scuglia Subject: Sacred Spirit --- Michel Cretu ??? To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Neil. > If anybody knows where to get sacrid spirit from please reply It is readily available in Australia and it is popping up in other countries such as Europe, the UK, and maybe the US. If it's not available locally in the US, you can either expect it soon or otherwise import it. > oh have you heard semantic spaces by delerium?? Yes. It's great. Buy it! (Review is available at yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/listserv/enigma/Enigma/reviews/Semantic.txt) Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 00:28:44 +1100 (EST) From: MICHAEL LUKE Subject: Sacred Spirit --- Michel Cretu ??? To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Wed, 8 Feb 1995 WEY56369@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU wrote: > Hi: > A friend of mine told me about an Enigma-sound-alike by the name of > "Sacred Spirit." Like the Enigma 1, one of the producer refused to > reveal his/her true identity and chose to remain anonymous. > My friend suspects Michel Cretu might be involved in the album. > Have anyone heard about this group or their origin ? If you do, > please advise. > > Norman > >> **Delurk** >> I don't know the name of the 'anonymous' producer, but I own the album >> and as far as I can tell the album contains original adaptations of >> Native North American indian chants and dances (except for trakcs 1 >> and 3 apparently. >> The name "The Native American Rights Fund" appears all over the album >> along with an address to write to for more information. >> Maybe someone in the states could do so?? (Well, you never know!) >> Yes, it is very enigma-esque, so i guess that Michael Cretu (or >> sometime who has worked with him) could well be responsible for > some of the album. (Michael luke - Enigma fanatic) mluke@ozemail.com.au >> P.S. --> Ozzies after "Out from the Deep" can grab a copy from >> either Red Eye records in Sydney or Gaslight Records in Melb >> (03) 6509009. *Lurk mode initiated* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 00:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Sandra's solo album. To: enigma I don't know if this has been asked before, but Sandra has a solo album? If anyone out there can point me in the right direction as to which contry it came out in or what it's called I would be very greatful. Dinh Le ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 10:34:54 +0100 From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: Sandra's solo album. To: ENIGMA Distribution List Hi Dinh Le, > I don't know if this has been asked before, but Sandra has a solo > album? If anyone out there can point me in the right direction as to > which contry it came out in or what it's called I would be very greatful. Sandra has in fact many solo albums, and is a successful artist in her own right. She has released the following albums: 1985 The Long Play 1986 Mirrors 1987 Ten On One (The Singles) [compilation] 1988 Into A Secret Land 1990 Paintings In Yellow 1992 Close To Seven 1992 18 Greatest Hits [compilation] All albums have been released in Europe. The Ten On One compilation was called Everlasting Love and released in the US in 1988. A new album by Sandra is scheduled for this spring. Joar PS: Gloria Estefan has currently the single Everlasting Love on the charts in the UK. This is the same song that Sandra did back then, and it has been covered by a lot of artists (it is not an original Sandra song). -- Joar Grimstvedt ------- Stavanger College Computer Science Stud. | 2 | Stavanger - N o r w a y Email: joarg@gribb.hsr.no ------- http://www.hsr.no/~joarg/ Co-owner of the Enigma mailing list Enigma.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 10:37:20 +0100 From: A.Lint@ET.TUDelft.NL Subject: Sandra's solo album. To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Fri, 17 Feb 1995, Dinh Le wrote: > > I don't know if this has been asked before, but Sandra has a solo > album? If anyone out there can point me in the right direction as to > which contry it came out in or what it's called I would be very greatful. > > Dinh Le > > Sandra has released several albums in Europe and at least one in the US. The Names of the albums are: -The Long Play (1985) (virgin 610 627) -Mirrors (Virgin/RCA 257 915) -Ten on One (Virgin 258 530) -Into a Secret Land (Virgin 259 371) -Everlasting Love (US only) (Virgin ????) -Paintings in Yellow (Virgin 260 518) -Close to Seven (Virgin 262 576) -Greatest Hits (Virgin ??????) Alexander Lint ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 11:38:12 -0600 (CST) From: deicide@rci.ripco.com (Deicide) Subject: Sandra's solo album. To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au > > > I don't know if this has been asked before, but Sandra has a solo > album? If anyone out there can point me in the right direction as to > which contry it came out in or what it's called I would be very greatful. > > Dinh Le > Sandra has a solo album? Hehe, that's pretty childish. She has quite a few. only 1 US release 'Everlasting Love'... which is the US version to Germany's 'Ten in 1, the singles' with a few different songs. Also she had Paintings in Yellow and Close to 7, both on import. I know there's more but that's all i have. -- ...TheEndComplete... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 19:36:44 -0700 (MST) From: "E. T. Schaffner" Subject: Sandra on "The Eyes of Truth" To: The Enigma Mailing List About half way through (~3:00) "The Eyes of Truth", there are Sandra vocals dubbed over the "mission control" samples. I've deciphered 2/3 of them. At first she repeats "Je me regarde..." (I examine myself...), then she repeats "Je me sens..." (I feel...). Finally, she repeats a third phrase, also in French, that totally escapes me. Has anyone else made it out? -Eric //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Eric T. Schaffner schaffet@Colorado.EDU http://ucsub.Colorado.EDU/~schaffet/Home.html \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ If you believe in the light, it is because of obscurity; If you believe in joy, it is because of sadness; And if you believe in god--it is because of the devil. Father X--Exorcist, Church of Notre Dame, Paris //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 15:25:17 -0400 From: dmackay@fox.nstn.ns.ca Subject: Sandra on "The Eyes of Truth" To: ENIGMA Distribution List >About half way through (~3:00) "The Eyes of Truth", there are Sandra >vocals dubbed over the "mission control" samples. >I've deciphered 2/3 of them. At first she repeats "Je me regarde..." (I >examine myself...), then she repeats "Je me sens..." (I feel...). >Finally, she repeats a third phrase, also in French, that totally escapes me. >Has anyone else made it out? I'm not sure about the third phrase, but "I jut Je me regarde" , I think, translates more directly as "I look at myself". No biggie, just a little nit picking..... Joseph MacKay ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:34:13 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: Thanks guys! To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Thanks to the many who were kind enough to post suggestions and offers of help. Special thanks to Alex Dedios. I hope my single is coming through! BTW, if say in the rare occurence an Enigma release makes it to Australia, but not the rest of the world, don't hesitate to email me, and I can organise copies. Sincere thanks again, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 23:27:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alexander Dedios Subject: Thanks guys! To: ENIGMA Distribution List On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Jamie P Yoon wrote: > Thanks to the many who were kind enough to post suggestions and offers of > help. Special thanks to Alex Dedios. I hope my single is > coming through! > Jamie > > -- > | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | > | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | > | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > > No problem, it's on the way! On another note, the Enigma Web-site is really cool. I love the music samplers on it. I wonder what took me so long to check it out! :) -Alex de Dios ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:39:41 +0800 (WST) From: Jamie P Yoon Subject: The ones that get deleted To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au One the greatest concerns I had is that the Out of the deep single would be deleted, before I could get my hands on it. For example, the Limited Edition Cross of Changes is impossible to get a hold of in Perth. (Luckily I got a copy :) ). Would it be possible to do some sort of Enigma mailing list, where the record companies could inform us of releases, and also tell us that a copy can be mailed to us? (Sort of "holding an account" with the company). I know some shops will do a similar thing "Reserve a copy of all releases from artist X, and charge to credit card x, etc,etc". Is it possible to organise something higher up? Regards, Jamie -- | Jamie P. Yoon, Apple Student Rep, University of WA _-_|\ | | PowerBook powered, IIgs fanatic, and.... / OZ | | | INTERNET JUNKIE!!!!!!!!!!!! I live here =======> X_.-._/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:14:01 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: The ones that get deleted To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi. > Would it be possible to do some sort of Enigma mailing list, where the > record companies could inform us of releases, and also tell us that a > copy can be mailed to us? (Sort of "holding an account" with the company). To do this you will have to find a local import record store which can do this for you. From my end, I am trying to do 1 or 2 things: 1. Be notified of any new releases either before or as soon as it is released 2. Get promotional items BEFORE they are released in Europe so you as members of this list will exclusively know about the releases and how they sound before the general public > I know some shops will do a similar thing "Reserve a copy of all releases > from artist X, and charge to credit card x, etc,etc". Is it possible to > organise something higher up? From a record company such as Virgin the answer is a definite no. The absolute best this list may get would be option 2 from above, and these sorts of things don't happen overnight. Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 01:59:35 -0800 (PST) From: Dinh Le Subject: Welcome to list 'enigma' To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Well here I am. I think this was what was meant by what the "Welcome list " had in mind when it asked me to write something to introduce myself. My name is Dinh Le and I am a Freshman at The University of Ca Davis. I first heard of Enigma from my cousin back when they released their first single Saddeness, from tghen on it was true love. I have both their first album as well as their most recent, and in addition I have all their Cd singles. What else? I like the main stream stuff too but they just don't have the same kick that Enigma does. I also listen to Deep Forest, B-Tribe, Loreena McKennitt, Dead Can Dance, Gregorian Chant(the original Chant album, not those copy cats that came along afterwards) I guess taht would about wrap that up. Sorry about this being a little unorganized but I am doing this off the top of my head. Well that basically it for now. If anyone out there actually gets this and has any question feel free to ask. Don't know why? But what the hell. Anyway I got a few questions that I am hoping someone out there can help me with: 1) Does anyone know anything about a US concert tour for Enigma? 2) Who are the members of Enigma? I don't think that I have ever seen them. Although I may be wrong. 3) Suggestions for anything out there that resembles Enigma? Well like I said before if this is going to the wrong place, then I'm sorry. But if it is going where it's supposed to go then Hi out there! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:30:13 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Stok Subject: Welcome to list 'enigma' To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Hi Dinh and welcome to the list (you did the right thing!) > their Cd singles. What else? I like the main stream stuff too but they > just don't have the same kick that Enigma does. I also listen to Deep > Forest, B-Tribe, Loreena McKennitt, Dead Can Dance, Gregorian Chant(the > original Chant album, not those copy cats that came along afterwards) I > guess taht would about wrap that up. Sorry about this being a little Our tastes are very alike. You should also get into Patrick O'Hearns later stuff ("The Private Music of Patrick O'Hearn" would be a good start) and Vangelis' later stuff. > Anyway I got a few questions that I am hoping someone out there can help > me with: > > 1) Does anyone know anything about a US concert tour for Enigma? Enigma touring is perhaps THE most asked question. The fact is that Enigma has never toured and personally I doubt Enigma or Sandra ever will. Reasons: They are very comfortable in Ibiza, they are very much studio based, past electronic artists have flopped badly due to too much backing tape, etc., etc.... If it's any reasurrance, I have asked Michael if he ever has or ever does plan on touring. > 2) Who are the members of Enigma? I don't think that I have ever seen > them. Although I may be wrong. Enigma is Michael Cretu as producer/writer/singer, Sandra as singer, and other credits as listed on the CD/cassette booklets. All this information is also in the FAQ. > 3) Suggestions for anything out there that resembles Enigma? The only closely sounding Enigma album I've heard recently is Delerium's "Semantic Spaces" (review available at yoyo) > Well like I said before if this is going to the wrong place, then I'm > sorry. But if it is going where it's supposed to go then Hi out there! Hi right back at ya! Gavin Stok (Enigma Mailing List President) gps@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 17:01:58 CST From: Jim English Subject: Well, I got Songs of Distant Earth To: enigma@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Enigma Mailing List) hey all, thanks for all the replies about Songs of Distant Earth. I was checking around town and Blockbuster happened to have the CD-ROM one (it was the only one and the only version they had). I'm going to try and locate a mac with a CD-ROM and get the images and sounds and graphics that way and "flatten" them and convert em to a more standard format. I would have to say that this CD is very mellow. It's cool, but as usual not quite what I was expecting. I guess Enigma has spoiled me for all other projects. There just flat out is no substitute. I had to get myself in a more relaxed mood to consume Songs of Distant Earth. I must try and find/read that Arthur C Clarke book. Is it any good? Also let's pass the message to Michael Cretu (sorry if i mispelled it) and Virgin...put cool CD-ROM stuff on Enigma3, but make it _PC_ CD-ROM (or PC _and_ MAC)!!!! :) It would be to cool to have videos and pictures and samples and such on the disc. (Maybe even loops/samples for remixing and such) Which leads me to my final question, does anyone have Enigma drum loop/ samples/patches? (not as in let's take the cd and swipe it off there - unless u have the ability to filter out everything else.) Thanks for any help. -jim -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Jim English - jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu / EJP51823@vax1.utulsa.edu The University of Tulsa - I vote "no confidence." "I don't care if it rains or freezes/As long as I've got my plastic jesus/ Sitting on the dashboard of my car." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of Enigma Digest ******************************